Help to solve: $int 1/(xsqrt{25-x^2}) dx$












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I'm a brand new student. Need some help to integrate this.




Perform this integration: $$int frac{1}{xsqrt{25-x^2}} dx$$




I'm able to obtain in theta terms like this:



$$frac 15 ln⁡|cscθ-cotθ|+C$$



But I have problems to convert in terms of "$x$"



Thanks a lot.



This is what is suggested by this image:




Using the substitution $x=5sin{theta}$ and $dx=5cos{theta}$, we obtain:
$$int frac{1}{5sin{theta}(5cos{theta})}cdot 5cos{theta}~dtheta$$
Simplifying, we obtain:
$$frac{1}{5}int frac{dtheta}{sin{theta}}$$
Using trigonometric identities:
$$frac{1}{5}int csc{theta}~dtheta$$
Integrating:
$$frac{1}{5}ln|csc{theta}-cot{theta}|+C$$











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  • It helps if you explain the steps you took to get at the solution in $theta$, e.g. what was the substitution you used?
    – StackTD
    Mar 17 '17 at 15:27










  • Yes Exactly. See the problem image..I believe I have the half of the solution....thanks..
    – El_Master
    Mar 17 '17 at 15:27










  • @El_Master Did you use the substitution $x=5sin(theta)$ and $dx=5cos(theta)~dtheta$ ?
    – projectilemotion
    Mar 17 '17 at 15:33












  • you can use relationships between trigonometric functions to change it back, so if $x = sen theta$ then $cos theta = sqrt{1 - sen^2 theta} = sqrt{1 - x^2}$ and other identities that you can use
    – Cato
    Mar 17 '17 at 15:33
















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I'm a brand new student. Need some help to integrate this.




Perform this integration: $$int frac{1}{xsqrt{25-x^2}} dx$$




I'm able to obtain in theta terms like this:



$$frac 15 ln⁡|cscθ-cotθ|+C$$



But I have problems to convert in terms of "$x$"



Thanks a lot.



This is what is suggested by this image:




Using the substitution $x=5sin{theta}$ and $dx=5cos{theta}$, we obtain:
$$int frac{1}{5sin{theta}(5cos{theta})}cdot 5cos{theta}~dtheta$$
Simplifying, we obtain:
$$frac{1}{5}int frac{dtheta}{sin{theta}}$$
Using trigonometric identities:
$$frac{1}{5}int csc{theta}~dtheta$$
Integrating:
$$frac{1}{5}ln|csc{theta}-cot{theta}|+C$$











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  • Please use: math.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5020/…
    – Arnaldo
    Mar 17 '17 at 15:25












  • It helps if you explain the steps you took to get at the solution in $theta$, e.g. what was the substitution you used?
    – StackTD
    Mar 17 '17 at 15:27










  • Yes Exactly. See the problem image..I believe I have the half of the solution....thanks..
    – El_Master
    Mar 17 '17 at 15:27










  • @El_Master Did you use the substitution $x=5sin(theta)$ and $dx=5cos(theta)~dtheta$ ?
    – projectilemotion
    Mar 17 '17 at 15:33












  • you can use relationships between trigonometric functions to change it back, so if $x = sen theta$ then $cos theta = sqrt{1 - sen^2 theta} = sqrt{1 - x^2}$ and other identities that you can use
    – Cato
    Mar 17 '17 at 15:33














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I'm a brand new student. Need some help to integrate this.




Perform this integration: $$int frac{1}{xsqrt{25-x^2}} dx$$




I'm able to obtain in theta terms like this:



$$frac 15 ln⁡|cscθ-cotθ|+C$$



But I have problems to convert in terms of "$x$"



Thanks a lot.



This is what is suggested by this image:




Using the substitution $x=5sin{theta}$ and $dx=5cos{theta}$, we obtain:
$$int frac{1}{5sin{theta}(5cos{theta})}cdot 5cos{theta}~dtheta$$
Simplifying, we obtain:
$$frac{1}{5}int frac{dtheta}{sin{theta}}$$
Using trigonometric identities:
$$frac{1}{5}int csc{theta}~dtheta$$
Integrating:
$$frac{1}{5}ln|csc{theta}-cot{theta}|+C$$











share|cite|improve this question















I'm a brand new student. Need some help to integrate this.




Perform this integration: $$int frac{1}{xsqrt{25-x^2}} dx$$




I'm able to obtain in theta terms like this:



$$frac 15 ln⁡|cscθ-cotθ|+C$$



But I have problems to convert in terms of "$x$"



Thanks a lot.



This is what is suggested by this image:




Using the substitution $x=5sin{theta}$ and $dx=5cos{theta}$, we obtain:
$$int frac{1}{5sin{theta}(5cos{theta})}cdot 5cos{theta}~dtheta$$
Simplifying, we obtain:
$$frac{1}{5}int frac{dtheta}{sin{theta}}$$
Using trigonometric identities:
$$frac{1}{5}int csc{theta}~dtheta$$
Integrating:
$$frac{1}{5}ln|csc{theta}-cot{theta}|+C$$








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  • Please use: math.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5020/…
    – Arnaldo
    Mar 17 '17 at 15:25












  • It helps if you explain the steps you took to get at the solution in $theta$, e.g. what was the substitution you used?
    – StackTD
    Mar 17 '17 at 15:27










  • Yes Exactly. See the problem image..I believe I have the half of the solution....thanks..
    – El_Master
    Mar 17 '17 at 15:27










  • @El_Master Did you use the substitution $x=5sin(theta)$ and $dx=5cos(theta)~dtheta$ ?
    – projectilemotion
    Mar 17 '17 at 15:33












  • you can use relationships between trigonometric functions to change it back, so if $x = sen theta$ then $cos theta = sqrt{1 - sen^2 theta} = sqrt{1 - x^2}$ and other identities that you can use
    – Cato
    Mar 17 '17 at 15:33


















  • Please use: math.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5020/…
    – Arnaldo
    Mar 17 '17 at 15:25












  • It helps if you explain the steps you took to get at the solution in $theta$, e.g. what was the substitution you used?
    – StackTD
    Mar 17 '17 at 15:27










  • Yes Exactly. See the problem image..I believe I have the half of the solution....thanks..
    – El_Master
    Mar 17 '17 at 15:27










  • @El_Master Did you use the substitution $x=5sin(theta)$ and $dx=5cos(theta)~dtheta$ ?
    – projectilemotion
    Mar 17 '17 at 15:33












  • you can use relationships between trigonometric functions to change it back, so if $x = sen theta$ then $cos theta = sqrt{1 - sen^2 theta} = sqrt{1 - x^2}$ and other identities that you can use
    – Cato
    Mar 17 '17 at 15:33
















Please use: math.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5020/…
– Arnaldo
Mar 17 '17 at 15:25






Please use: math.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5020/…
– Arnaldo
Mar 17 '17 at 15:25














It helps if you explain the steps you took to get at the solution in $theta$, e.g. what was the substitution you used?
– StackTD
Mar 17 '17 at 15:27




It helps if you explain the steps you took to get at the solution in $theta$, e.g. what was the substitution you used?
– StackTD
Mar 17 '17 at 15:27












Yes Exactly. See the problem image..I believe I have the half of the solution....thanks..
– El_Master
Mar 17 '17 at 15:27




Yes Exactly. See the problem image..I believe I have the half of the solution....thanks..
– El_Master
Mar 17 '17 at 15:27












@El_Master Did you use the substitution $x=5sin(theta)$ and $dx=5cos(theta)~dtheta$ ?
– projectilemotion
Mar 17 '17 at 15:33






@El_Master Did you use the substitution $x=5sin(theta)$ and $dx=5cos(theta)~dtheta$ ?
– projectilemotion
Mar 17 '17 at 15:33














you can use relationships between trigonometric functions to change it back, so if $x = sen theta$ then $cos theta = sqrt{1 - sen^2 theta} = sqrt{1 - x^2}$ and other identities that you can use
– Cato
Mar 17 '17 at 15:33




you can use relationships between trigonometric functions to change it back, so if $x = sen theta$ then $cos theta = sqrt{1 - sen^2 theta} = sqrt{1 - x^2}$ and other identities that you can use
– Cato
Mar 17 '17 at 15:33










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HINT:



If trigonometric substitution is not mandatory, set $sqrt{a^2-x^2}=y$



$$intdfrac{2x dx}{2x^2sqrt{a^2-x^2}}=intdfrac{dy}{y^2-a^2}=?$$



Else setting $x=5sin y$ where $-dfracpi2le yledfracpi2impliescos yge0$



$cos y=sqrt{1-left(dfrac x5right)^2}=dfrac{sqrt{25-x^2}}5$



$$impliesintdfrac{dx}{xsqrt{25-x^2}}=intdfrac{5cos y dy}{5sin y(5cos y)}=dfrac{ln|csc y-cot y|}5+K$$






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  • I appreciete the help... I understand is not mandatory... but in this case I need it (rules are not mine).
    – El_Master
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$$x=5sintheta$$
$$frac x5=sintheta$$
Therefore
$$frac5x=csctheta$$
And since $sintheta=frac x5$, we know that
$$costheta=sqrt{1-sin^2theta}=sqrt{1-frac{x^2}{25}}$$
And since $cottheta=frac{costheta}{sintheta}$,
$$cottheta=frac{5sqrt{1-frac{x^2}{25}}}{x}=frac{sqrt{25-x^2}}x$$
Which gives your result as
$$frac15lnbigg|frac{5-sqrt{25-x^2}}xbigg|+C$$






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    HINT:



    If trigonometric substitution is not mandatory, set $sqrt{a^2-x^2}=y$



    $$intdfrac{2x dx}{2x^2sqrt{a^2-x^2}}=intdfrac{dy}{y^2-a^2}=?$$



    Else setting $x=5sin y$ where $-dfracpi2le yledfracpi2impliescos yge0$



    $cos y=sqrt{1-left(dfrac x5right)^2}=dfrac{sqrt{25-x^2}}5$



    $$impliesintdfrac{dx}{xsqrt{25-x^2}}=intdfrac{5cos y dy}{5sin y(5cos y)}=dfrac{ln|csc y-cot y|}5+K$$






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    • I appreciete the help... I understand is not mandatory... but in this case I need it (rules are not mine).
      – El_Master
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    HINT:



    If trigonometric substitution is not mandatory, set $sqrt{a^2-x^2}=y$



    $$intdfrac{2x dx}{2x^2sqrt{a^2-x^2}}=intdfrac{dy}{y^2-a^2}=?$$



    Else setting $x=5sin y$ where $-dfracpi2le yledfracpi2impliescos yge0$



    $cos y=sqrt{1-left(dfrac x5right)^2}=dfrac{sqrt{25-x^2}}5$



    $$impliesintdfrac{dx}{xsqrt{25-x^2}}=intdfrac{5cos y dy}{5sin y(5cos y)}=dfrac{ln|csc y-cot y|}5+K$$






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    • I appreciete the help... I understand is not mandatory... but in this case I need it (rules are not mine).
      – El_Master
      Mar 17 '17 at 15:59














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    HINT:



    If trigonometric substitution is not mandatory, set $sqrt{a^2-x^2}=y$



    $$intdfrac{2x dx}{2x^2sqrt{a^2-x^2}}=intdfrac{dy}{y^2-a^2}=?$$



    Else setting $x=5sin y$ where $-dfracpi2le yledfracpi2impliescos yge0$



    $cos y=sqrt{1-left(dfrac x5right)^2}=dfrac{sqrt{25-x^2}}5$



    $$impliesintdfrac{dx}{xsqrt{25-x^2}}=intdfrac{5cos y dy}{5sin y(5cos y)}=dfrac{ln|csc y-cot y|}5+K$$






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    HINT:



    If trigonometric substitution is not mandatory, set $sqrt{a^2-x^2}=y$



    $$intdfrac{2x dx}{2x^2sqrt{a^2-x^2}}=intdfrac{dy}{y^2-a^2}=?$$



    Else setting $x=5sin y$ where $-dfracpi2le yledfracpi2impliescos yge0$



    $cos y=sqrt{1-left(dfrac x5right)^2}=dfrac{sqrt{25-x^2}}5$



    $$impliesintdfrac{dx}{xsqrt{25-x^2}}=intdfrac{5cos y dy}{5sin y(5cos y)}=dfrac{ln|csc y-cot y|}5+K$$







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    • I appreciete the help... I understand is not mandatory... but in this case I need it (rules are not mine).
      – El_Master
      Mar 17 '17 at 15:59


















    • I appreciete the help... I understand is not mandatory... but in this case I need it (rules are not mine).
      – El_Master
      Mar 17 '17 at 15:59
















    I appreciete the help... I understand is not mandatory... but in this case I need it (rules are not mine).
    – El_Master
    Mar 17 '17 at 15:59




    I appreciete the help... I understand is not mandatory... but in this case I need it (rules are not mine).
    – El_Master
    Mar 17 '17 at 15:59











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    $$x=5sintheta$$
    $$frac x5=sintheta$$
    Therefore
    $$frac5x=csctheta$$
    And since $sintheta=frac x5$, we know that
    $$costheta=sqrt{1-sin^2theta}=sqrt{1-frac{x^2}{25}}$$
    And since $cottheta=frac{costheta}{sintheta}$,
    $$cottheta=frac{5sqrt{1-frac{x^2}{25}}}{x}=frac{sqrt{25-x^2}}x$$
    Which gives your result as
    $$frac15lnbigg|frac{5-sqrt{25-x^2}}xbigg|+C$$






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      $$x=5sintheta$$
      $$frac x5=sintheta$$
      Therefore
      $$frac5x=csctheta$$
      And since $sintheta=frac x5$, we know that
      $$costheta=sqrt{1-sin^2theta}=sqrt{1-frac{x^2}{25}}$$
      And since $cottheta=frac{costheta}{sintheta}$,
      $$cottheta=frac{5sqrt{1-frac{x^2}{25}}}{x}=frac{sqrt{25-x^2}}x$$
      Which gives your result as
      $$frac15lnbigg|frac{5-sqrt{25-x^2}}xbigg|+C$$






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        $$x=5sintheta$$
        $$frac x5=sintheta$$
        Therefore
        $$frac5x=csctheta$$
        And since $sintheta=frac x5$, we know that
        $$costheta=sqrt{1-sin^2theta}=sqrt{1-frac{x^2}{25}}$$
        And since $cottheta=frac{costheta}{sintheta}$,
        $$cottheta=frac{5sqrt{1-frac{x^2}{25}}}{x}=frac{sqrt{25-x^2}}x$$
        Which gives your result as
        $$frac15lnbigg|frac{5-sqrt{25-x^2}}xbigg|+C$$






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        $$x=5sintheta$$
        $$frac x5=sintheta$$
        Therefore
        $$frac5x=csctheta$$
        And since $sintheta=frac x5$, we know that
        $$costheta=sqrt{1-sin^2theta}=sqrt{1-frac{x^2}{25}}$$
        And since $cottheta=frac{costheta}{sintheta}$,
        $$cottheta=frac{5sqrt{1-frac{x^2}{25}}}{x}=frac{sqrt{25-x^2}}x$$
        Which gives your result as
        $$frac15lnbigg|frac{5-sqrt{25-x^2}}xbigg|+C$$







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