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A wire 5 meters long is cut into two pieces. One piece is bent into a equilateral triangle for a frame for a stained glass ornament, while the other piece is bent into a circle for a TV antenna. To reduce storage space, where should the wire be cut to minimize the total area of both figures? Give the length of wire used for each.



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    A wire 5 meters long is cut into two pieces. One piece is bent into a equilateral triangle for a frame for a stained glass ornament, while the other piece is bent into a circle for a TV antenna. To reduce storage space, where should the wire be cut to minimize the total area of both figures? Give the length of wire used for each.



    I understand most of this but I'm having trouble finding the right terms for the triangle's area and optimization. Any help would be appreciated.










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      A wire 5 meters long is cut into two pieces. One piece is bent into a equilateral triangle for a frame for a stained glass ornament, while the other piece is bent into a circle for a TV antenna. To reduce storage space, where should the wire be cut to minimize the total area of both figures? Give the length of wire used for each.



      I understand most of this but I'm having trouble finding the right terms for the triangle's area and optimization. Any help would be appreciated.










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      A wire 5 meters long is cut into two pieces. One piece is bent into a equilateral triangle for a frame for a stained glass ornament, while the other piece is bent into a circle for a TV antenna. To reduce storage space, where should the wire be cut to minimize the total area of both figures? Give the length of wire used for each.



      I understand most of this but I'm having trouble finding the right terms for the triangle's area and optimization. Any help would be appreciated.







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          Consider $x=$ the length of the part used to make equilateral triangle.



          Then each side of the triangle $= x/3$ and area of the triangle $= frac{surd{3}x^2}{36}$.



          Area of the circle $=pi(frac{5-x}{2pi})^2$



          Let $f(x)=frac{surd{3}x^2}{36}+pi(frac{5-x}{2pi})^2$



          Let $f'(x)=frac{surd{3}x}{18}-frac{5-x}{2pi}=0$, then find $x$.



          Also $f''(x)=frac{surd{3}}{18}+frac{1}{2pi}>0$






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            Let $x$ an $5-x$ be the length of wires and bent into an equilateral triangle and a circle respectively. Area of equilateral triangle given side length $dfrac{x}{3}$ is $dfrac{sqrt{3}}{4}left(dfrac{x^2}{9}right)$ and that of circle given circumference $5-x$ is $dfrac{(5-x)^2}{4pi}$. Total area $f(x)=dfrac{sqrt{3}}{4}left(dfrac{x^2}{9}right)+dfrac{(5-x)^2}{4pi}$. To minimize we differentiate, find the critical points and determine the local minima. $f'(x)=dfrac{sqrt{3}}{18}x+dfrac{(x-5)}{2pi}=0$ we get
            $x=dfrac{45}{9+pisqrt{3}}$. By second derivative test we see minima occurs at $x=dfrac{45}{9+pisqrt{3}}approx3.11604$






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              Consider $x=$ the length of the part used to make equilateral triangle.



              Then each side of the triangle $= x/3$ and area of the triangle $= frac{surd{3}x^2}{36}$.



              Area of the circle $=pi(frac{5-x}{2pi})^2$



              Let $f(x)=frac{surd{3}x^2}{36}+pi(frac{5-x}{2pi})^2$



              Let $f'(x)=frac{surd{3}x}{18}-frac{5-x}{2pi}=0$, then find $x$.



              Also $f''(x)=frac{surd{3}}{18}+frac{1}{2pi}>0$






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                Consider $x=$ the length of the part used to make equilateral triangle.



                Then each side of the triangle $= x/3$ and area of the triangle $= frac{surd{3}x^2}{36}$.



                Area of the circle $=pi(frac{5-x}{2pi})^2$



                Let $f(x)=frac{surd{3}x^2}{36}+pi(frac{5-x}{2pi})^2$



                Let $f'(x)=frac{surd{3}x}{18}-frac{5-x}{2pi}=0$, then find $x$.



                Also $f''(x)=frac{surd{3}}{18}+frac{1}{2pi}>0$






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                  Consider $x=$ the length of the part used to make equilateral triangle.



                  Then each side of the triangle $= x/3$ and area of the triangle $= frac{surd{3}x^2}{36}$.



                  Area of the circle $=pi(frac{5-x}{2pi})^2$



                  Let $f(x)=frac{surd{3}x^2}{36}+pi(frac{5-x}{2pi})^2$



                  Let $f'(x)=frac{surd{3}x}{18}-frac{5-x}{2pi}=0$, then find $x$.



                  Also $f''(x)=frac{surd{3}}{18}+frac{1}{2pi}>0$






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                  Consider $x=$ the length of the part used to make equilateral triangle.



                  Then each side of the triangle $= x/3$ and area of the triangle $= frac{surd{3}x^2}{36}$.



                  Area of the circle $=pi(frac{5-x}{2pi})^2$



                  Let $f(x)=frac{surd{3}x^2}{36}+pi(frac{5-x}{2pi})^2$



                  Let $f'(x)=frac{surd{3}x}{18}-frac{5-x}{2pi}=0$, then find $x$.



                  Also $f''(x)=frac{surd{3}}{18}+frac{1}{2pi}>0$







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                      Let $x$ an $5-x$ be the length of wires and bent into an equilateral triangle and a circle respectively. Area of equilateral triangle given side length $dfrac{x}{3}$ is $dfrac{sqrt{3}}{4}left(dfrac{x^2}{9}right)$ and that of circle given circumference $5-x$ is $dfrac{(5-x)^2}{4pi}$. Total area $f(x)=dfrac{sqrt{3}}{4}left(dfrac{x^2}{9}right)+dfrac{(5-x)^2}{4pi}$. To minimize we differentiate, find the critical points and determine the local minima. $f'(x)=dfrac{sqrt{3}}{18}x+dfrac{(x-5)}{2pi}=0$ we get
                      $x=dfrac{45}{9+pisqrt{3}}$. By second derivative test we see minima occurs at $x=dfrac{45}{9+pisqrt{3}}approx3.11604$






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                        Let $x$ an $5-x$ be the length of wires and bent into an equilateral triangle and a circle respectively. Area of equilateral triangle given side length $dfrac{x}{3}$ is $dfrac{sqrt{3}}{4}left(dfrac{x^2}{9}right)$ and that of circle given circumference $5-x$ is $dfrac{(5-x)^2}{4pi}$. Total area $f(x)=dfrac{sqrt{3}}{4}left(dfrac{x^2}{9}right)+dfrac{(5-x)^2}{4pi}$. To minimize we differentiate, find the critical points and determine the local minima. $f'(x)=dfrac{sqrt{3}}{18}x+dfrac{(x-5)}{2pi}=0$ we get
                        $x=dfrac{45}{9+pisqrt{3}}$. By second derivative test we see minima occurs at $x=dfrac{45}{9+pisqrt{3}}approx3.11604$






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                          Let $x$ an $5-x$ be the length of wires and bent into an equilateral triangle and a circle respectively. Area of equilateral triangle given side length $dfrac{x}{3}$ is $dfrac{sqrt{3}}{4}left(dfrac{x^2}{9}right)$ and that of circle given circumference $5-x$ is $dfrac{(5-x)^2}{4pi}$. Total area $f(x)=dfrac{sqrt{3}}{4}left(dfrac{x^2}{9}right)+dfrac{(5-x)^2}{4pi}$. To minimize we differentiate, find the critical points and determine the local minima. $f'(x)=dfrac{sqrt{3}}{18}x+dfrac{(x-5)}{2pi}=0$ we get
                          $x=dfrac{45}{9+pisqrt{3}}$. By second derivative test we see minima occurs at $x=dfrac{45}{9+pisqrt{3}}approx3.11604$






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                          Let $x$ an $5-x$ be the length of wires and bent into an equilateral triangle and a circle respectively. Area of equilateral triangle given side length $dfrac{x}{3}$ is $dfrac{sqrt{3}}{4}left(dfrac{x^2}{9}right)$ and that of circle given circumference $5-x$ is $dfrac{(5-x)^2}{4pi}$. Total area $f(x)=dfrac{sqrt{3}}{4}left(dfrac{x^2}{9}right)+dfrac{(5-x)^2}{4pi}$. To minimize we differentiate, find the critical points and determine the local minima. $f'(x)=dfrac{sqrt{3}}{18}x+dfrac{(x-5)}{2pi}=0$ we get
                          $x=dfrac{45}{9+pisqrt{3}}$. By second derivative test we see minima occurs at $x=dfrac{45}{9+pisqrt{3}}approx3.11604$







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