How to check if the sum of infinite series is convergent?
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I have this exercise where I need to find if the sum of infinite series is convergent:
$sum_{n=1}^ infty frac{(sin^2(x) - sin (x) +1)^n}{ln(1+n)} $
for x $ in (pi/2,pi) $
Now I decided to do a ratio test for $ frac{|a_n+1|}{a_n} $ but I am currently stuck on simplifying the result and proceeding with the solution.
$ frac{(sin^2(x) - sin (x) +1)^{n+1}}{ln(2+n)} cdot frac{ln(1+n)}{(sin^2(x) - sin (x) +1)^{n}}$
I am not really sure how to proceed from here, any further help would be appreciated, thanks!
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I have this exercise where I need to find if the sum of infinite series is convergent:
$sum_{n=1}^ infty frac{(sin^2(x) - sin (x) +1)^n}{ln(1+n)} $
for x $ in (pi/2,pi) $
Now I decided to do a ratio test for $ frac{|a_n+1|}{a_n} $ but I am currently stuck on simplifying the result and proceeding with the solution.
$ frac{(sin^2(x) - sin (x) +1)^{n+1}}{ln(2+n)} cdot frac{ln(1+n)}{(sin^2(x) - sin (x) +1)^{n}}$
I am not really sure how to proceed from here, any further help would be appreciated, thanks!
calculus sequences-and-series convergence trigonometric-series
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$0<sin^2x-sin x+1<1$ in that interval.
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– David Peterson
Dec 11 '18 at 21:43
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why specifically $sin^2 x - sin x +1$ ? also what about the natural log? and should I be checking for $ frac{|a_n+1|}{a_n}$?
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– Mark
Dec 11 '18 at 21:45
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For any $x$, the numerator is equal to $r^n$ where $0<r<1$. For $n>1$, the denominator is greater than $1$. So your series is less-than-or-equal-to $sum r^n$
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I have this exercise where I need to find if the sum of infinite series is convergent:
$sum_{n=1}^ infty frac{(sin^2(x) - sin (x) +1)^n}{ln(1+n)} $
for x $ in (pi/2,pi) $
Now I decided to do a ratio test for $ frac{|a_n+1|}{a_n} $ but I am currently stuck on simplifying the result and proceeding with the solution.
$ frac{(sin^2(x) - sin (x) +1)^{n+1}}{ln(2+n)} cdot frac{ln(1+n)}{(sin^2(x) - sin (x) +1)^{n}}$
I am not really sure how to proceed from here, any further help would be appreciated, thanks!
calculus sequences-and-series convergence trigonometric-series
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I have this exercise where I need to find if the sum of infinite series is convergent:
$sum_{n=1}^ infty frac{(sin^2(x) - sin (x) +1)^n}{ln(1+n)} $
for x $ in (pi/2,pi) $
Now I decided to do a ratio test for $ frac{|a_n+1|}{a_n} $ but I am currently stuck on simplifying the result and proceeding with the solution.
$ frac{(sin^2(x) - sin (x) +1)^{n+1}}{ln(2+n)} cdot frac{ln(1+n)}{(sin^2(x) - sin (x) +1)^{n}}$
I am not really sure how to proceed from here, any further help would be appreciated, thanks!
calculus sequences-and-series convergence trigonometric-series
calculus sequences-and-series convergence trigonometric-series
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$0<sin^2x-sin x+1<1$ in that interval.
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– David Peterson
Dec 11 '18 at 21:43
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why specifically $sin^2 x - sin x +1$ ? also what about the natural log? and should I be checking for $ frac{|a_n+1|}{a_n}$?
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– Mark
Dec 11 '18 at 21:45
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For any $x$, the numerator is equal to $r^n$ where $0<r<1$. For $n>1$, the denominator is greater than $1$. So your series is less-than-or-equal-to $sum r^n$
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– David Peterson
Dec 11 '18 at 21:50
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$0<sin^2x-sin x+1<1$ in that interval.
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– David Peterson
Dec 11 '18 at 21:43
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why specifically $sin^2 x - sin x +1$ ? also what about the natural log? and should I be checking for $ frac{|a_n+1|}{a_n}$?
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– Mark
Dec 11 '18 at 21:45
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For any $x$, the numerator is equal to $r^n$ where $0<r<1$. For $n>1$, the denominator is greater than $1$. So your series is less-than-or-equal-to $sum r^n$
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– David Peterson
Dec 11 '18 at 21:50
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$0<sin^2x-sin x+1<1$ in that interval.
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– David Peterson
Dec 11 '18 at 21:43
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$0<sin^2x-sin x+1<1$ in that interval.
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– David Peterson
Dec 11 '18 at 21:43
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why specifically $sin^2 x - sin x +1$ ? also what about the natural log? and should I be checking for $ frac{|a_n+1|}{a_n}$?
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– Mark
Dec 11 '18 at 21:45
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why specifically $sin^2 x - sin x +1$ ? also what about the natural log? and should I be checking for $ frac{|a_n+1|}{a_n}$?
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– Mark
Dec 11 '18 at 21:45
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For any $x$, the numerator is equal to $r^n$ where $0<r<1$. For $n>1$, the denominator is greater than $1$. So your series is less-than-or-equal-to $sum r^n$
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– David Peterson
Dec 11 '18 at 21:50
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For any $x$, the numerator is equal to $r^n$ where $0<r<1$. For $n>1$, the denominator is greater than $1$. So your series is less-than-or-equal-to $sum r^n$
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hint
$$ln(n+2)=lnBigl((n+1)(1+frac{1}{n+1})Bigr)$$
The limit of the ratio is
$$L=sin^2(x)-sin(x)+1$$
but
$$-1<sin(x)Bigl(sin(x)-1Bigr)<0$$
thus
$$0<L<1$$
the series is convergent.
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Thanks for the answer, may I ask why is the L just $sin^2(x)−sin(x)+1$ and why are we not checking for the ln?
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– Mark
Dec 11 '18 at 21:49
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@Mark The ratio of $ln$ goes to one.
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Dec 11 '18 at 21:50
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Show that if $0<u<1,$ then $0<u^2-u+1<1.$ Now fix $xin (pi/2,pi).$ Then $0<sin x <1.$ From the above, $0<sin^2 x - sin x + 1 <1.$ Hence
$$sum_{n=1}^{infty} (sin^2 x - sin x + 1)^n$$
is a positive convergent series. Dividing by $ln (n+1)$ only helps. Thus your series converges for all $xin (pi/2,pi).$
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I plotted the limit for $sin^2x−sin x+1$ and tried to add the values of π/2 and π, but I get the answer to be equal to 1, why are we saying it is less than 1? Could you please explain this point further?
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Dec 11 '18 at 22:48
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Why are you adding the values $pi/2$ and $pi$ when you have told us they are not included?
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– zhw.
Dec 11 '18 at 22:57
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(+1) I don't understand why this answer was neither accepted nor upvoted … until now.
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– Mark Viola
Dec 11 '18 at 23:09
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@MarkViola Hey MV, happy holidays! The ways of MSE are indeed mysterious.
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– zhw.
Dec 11 '18 at 23:16
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@zhw. Happy Holiday to you Z-man!
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As an alternative by root test
$$sqrt[n]{frac{(sin^2(x) - sin (x) +1)^n}{ln(1+n)}}tosin^2(x) - sin (x) +1$$
and on the interval
$$0<sin^2(x) - sin (x) +1<1$$
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PARTIAL PROOF
Find the radius of convergence of the series
$frac{|a_{N+1}|}{|a_N|}$=$left|frac{left(ln left(n+1right)right)}{lnleft(n+2right)}left(sin x^2-sin x+1right)right|$
As n tends to ∞,
Using L'Hospital's Rule,
$frac{|a_{N+1}|}{|a_N|}$=$left|frac{left(left(n+2right)right)}{n+1}left(sin x^2-sin x+1right)right|$
=$left|left(sin x^2-sin x+1right)right|$ (As n tends to ∞)
This must be <1 for the series to converge
Therefore,
$left|left(sin x^2-sin x+1right)right|<1$ for the series to converge
Prove that the interval lies in these values.
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hint
$$ln(n+2)=lnBigl((n+1)(1+frac{1}{n+1})Bigr)$$
The limit of the ratio is
$$L=sin^2(x)-sin(x)+1$$
but
$$-1<sin(x)Bigl(sin(x)-1Bigr)<0$$
thus
$$0<L<1$$
the series is convergent.
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Thanks for the answer, may I ask why is the L just $sin^2(x)−sin(x)+1$ and why are we not checking for the ln?
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– Mark
Dec 11 '18 at 21:49
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@Mark The ratio of $ln$ goes to one.
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– hamam_Abdallah
Dec 11 '18 at 21:50
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hint
$$ln(n+2)=lnBigl((n+1)(1+frac{1}{n+1})Bigr)$$
The limit of the ratio is
$$L=sin^2(x)-sin(x)+1$$
but
$$-1<sin(x)Bigl(sin(x)-1Bigr)<0$$
thus
$$0<L<1$$
the series is convergent.
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Thanks for the answer, may I ask why is the L just $sin^2(x)−sin(x)+1$ and why are we not checking for the ln?
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– Mark
Dec 11 '18 at 21:49
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@Mark The ratio of $ln$ goes to one.
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– hamam_Abdallah
Dec 11 '18 at 21:50
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hint
$$ln(n+2)=lnBigl((n+1)(1+frac{1}{n+1})Bigr)$$
The limit of the ratio is
$$L=sin^2(x)-sin(x)+1$$
but
$$-1<sin(x)Bigl(sin(x)-1Bigr)<0$$
thus
$$0<L<1$$
the series is convergent.
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hint
$$ln(n+2)=lnBigl((n+1)(1+frac{1}{n+1})Bigr)$$
The limit of the ratio is
$$L=sin^2(x)-sin(x)+1$$
but
$$-1<sin(x)Bigl(sin(x)-1Bigr)<0$$
thus
$$0<L<1$$
the series is convergent.
answered Dec 11 '18 at 21:45
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Thanks for the answer, may I ask why is the L just $sin^2(x)−sin(x)+1$ and why are we not checking for the ln?
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– Mark
Dec 11 '18 at 21:49
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@Mark The ratio of $ln$ goes to one.
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– hamam_Abdallah
Dec 11 '18 at 21:50
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Thanks for the answer, may I ask why is the L just $sin^2(x)−sin(x)+1$ and why are we not checking for the ln?
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– Mark
Dec 11 '18 at 21:49
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@Mark The ratio of $ln$ goes to one.
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– hamam_Abdallah
Dec 11 '18 at 21:50
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Thanks for the answer, may I ask why is the L just $sin^2(x)−sin(x)+1$ and why are we not checking for the ln?
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– Mark
Dec 11 '18 at 21:49
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Thanks for the answer, may I ask why is the L just $sin^2(x)−sin(x)+1$ and why are we not checking for the ln?
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– Mark
Dec 11 '18 at 21:49
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@Mark The ratio of $ln$ goes to one.
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– hamam_Abdallah
Dec 11 '18 at 21:50
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@Mark The ratio of $ln$ goes to one.
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Show that if $0<u<1,$ then $0<u^2-u+1<1.$ Now fix $xin (pi/2,pi).$ Then $0<sin x <1.$ From the above, $0<sin^2 x - sin x + 1 <1.$ Hence
$$sum_{n=1}^{infty} (sin^2 x - sin x + 1)^n$$
is a positive convergent series. Dividing by $ln (n+1)$ only helps. Thus your series converges for all $xin (pi/2,pi).$
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I plotted the limit for $sin^2x−sin x+1$ and tried to add the values of π/2 and π, but I get the answer to be equal to 1, why are we saying it is less than 1? Could you please explain this point further?
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– Mark
Dec 11 '18 at 22:48
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Why are you adding the values $pi/2$ and $pi$ when you have told us they are not included?
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– zhw.
Dec 11 '18 at 22:57
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(+1) I don't understand why this answer was neither accepted nor upvoted … until now.
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– Mark Viola
Dec 11 '18 at 23:09
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@MarkViola Hey MV, happy holidays! The ways of MSE are indeed mysterious.
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– zhw.
Dec 11 '18 at 23:16
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@zhw. Happy Holiday to you Z-man!
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Show that if $0<u<1,$ then $0<u^2-u+1<1.$ Now fix $xin (pi/2,pi).$ Then $0<sin x <1.$ From the above, $0<sin^2 x - sin x + 1 <1.$ Hence
$$sum_{n=1}^{infty} (sin^2 x - sin x + 1)^n$$
is a positive convergent series. Dividing by $ln (n+1)$ only helps. Thus your series converges for all $xin (pi/2,pi).$
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I plotted the limit for $sin^2x−sin x+1$ and tried to add the values of π/2 and π, but I get the answer to be equal to 1, why are we saying it is less than 1? Could you please explain this point further?
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– Mark
Dec 11 '18 at 22:48
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Why are you adding the values $pi/2$ and $pi$ when you have told us they are not included?
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– zhw.
Dec 11 '18 at 22:57
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(+1) I don't understand why this answer was neither accepted nor upvoted … until now.
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– Mark Viola
Dec 11 '18 at 23:09
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@MarkViola Hey MV, happy holidays! The ways of MSE are indeed mysterious.
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– zhw.
Dec 11 '18 at 23:16
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@zhw. Happy Holiday to you Z-man!
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Show that if $0<u<1,$ then $0<u^2-u+1<1.$ Now fix $xin (pi/2,pi).$ Then $0<sin x <1.$ From the above, $0<sin^2 x - sin x + 1 <1.$ Hence
$$sum_{n=1}^{infty} (sin^2 x - sin x + 1)^n$$
is a positive convergent series. Dividing by $ln (n+1)$ only helps. Thus your series converges for all $xin (pi/2,pi).$
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Show that if $0<u<1,$ then $0<u^2-u+1<1.$ Now fix $xin (pi/2,pi).$ Then $0<sin x <1.$ From the above, $0<sin^2 x - sin x + 1 <1.$ Hence
$$sum_{n=1}^{infty} (sin^2 x - sin x + 1)^n$$
is a positive convergent series. Dividing by $ln (n+1)$ only helps. Thus your series converges for all $xin (pi/2,pi).$
answered Dec 11 '18 at 22:08
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I plotted the limit for $sin^2x−sin x+1$ and tried to add the values of π/2 and π, but I get the answer to be equal to 1, why are we saying it is less than 1? Could you please explain this point further?
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– Mark
Dec 11 '18 at 22:48
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Why are you adding the values $pi/2$ and $pi$ when you have told us they are not included?
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– zhw.
Dec 11 '18 at 22:57
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(+1) I don't understand why this answer was neither accepted nor upvoted … until now.
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– Mark Viola
Dec 11 '18 at 23:09
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@MarkViola Hey MV, happy holidays! The ways of MSE are indeed mysterious.
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– zhw.
Dec 11 '18 at 23:16
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@zhw. Happy Holiday to you Z-man!
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– Mark Viola
Dec 12 '18 at 2:27
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I plotted the limit for $sin^2x−sin x+1$ and tried to add the values of π/2 and π, but I get the answer to be equal to 1, why are we saying it is less than 1? Could you please explain this point further?
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– Mark
Dec 11 '18 at 22:48
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Why are you adding the values $pi/2$ and $pi$ when you have told us they are not included?
$endgroup$
– zhw.
Dec 11 '18 at 22:57
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(+1) I don't understand why this answer was neither accepted nor upvoted … until now.
$endgroup$
– Mark Viola
Dec 11 '18 at 23:09
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@MarkViola Hey MV, happy holidays! The ways of MSE are indeed mysterious.
$endgroup$
– zhw.
Dec 11 '18 at 23:16
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@zhw. Happy Holiday to you Z-man!
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– Mark Viola
Dec 12 '18 at 2:27
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I plotted the limit for $sin^2x−sin x+1$ and tried to add the values of π/2 and π, but I get the answer to be equal to 1, why are we saying it is less than 1? Could you please explain this point further?
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– Mark
Dec 11 '18 at 22:48
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I plotted the limit for $sin^2x−sin x+1$ and tried to add the values of π/2 and π, but I get the answer to be equal to 1, why are we saying it is less than 1? Could you please explain this point further?
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– Mark
Dec 11 '18 at 22:48
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Why are you adding the values $pi/2$ and $pi$ when you have told us they are not included?
$endgroup$
– zhw.
Dec 11 '18 at 22:57
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Why are you adding the values $pi/2$ and $pi$ when you have told us they are not included?
$endgroup$
– zhw.
Dec 11 '18 at 22:57
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(+1) I don't understand why this answer was neither accepted nor upvoted … until now.
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– Mark Viola
Dec 11 '18 at 23:09
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(+1) I don't understand why this answer was neither accepted nor upvoted … until now.
$endgroup$
– Mark Viola
Dec 11 '18 at 23:09
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@MarkViola Hey MV, happy holidays! The ways of MSE are indeed mysterious.
$endgroup$
– zhw.
Dec 11 '18 at 23:16
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@MarkViola Hey MV, happy holidays! The ways of MSE are indeed mysterious.
$endgroup$
– zhw.
Dec 11 '18 at 23:16
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@zhw. Happy Holiday to you Z-man!
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– Mark Viola
Dec 12 '18 at 2:27
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@zhw. Happy Holiday to you Z-man!
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As an alternative by root test
$$sqrt[n]{frac{(sin^2(x) - sin (x) +1)^n}{ln(1+n)}}tosin^2(x) - sin (x) +1$$
and on the interval
$$0<sin^2(x) - sin (x) +1<1$$
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As an alternative by root test
$$sqrt[n]{frac{(sin^2(x) - sin (x) +1)^n}{ln(1+n)}}tosin^2(x) - sin (x) +1$$
and on the interval
$$0<sin^2(x) - sin (x) +1<1$$
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As an alternative by root test
$$sqrt[n]{frac{(sin^2(x) - sin (x) +1)^n}{ln(1+n)}}tosin^2(x) - sin (x) +1$$
and on the interval
$$0<sin^2(x) - sin (x) +1<1$$
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As an alternative by root test
$$sqrt[n]{frac{(sin^2(x) - sin (x) +1)^n}{ln(1+n)}}tosin^2(x) - sin (x) +1$$
and on the interval
$$0<sin^2(x) - sin (x) +1<1$$
answered Dec 11 '18 at 21:50
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PARTIAL PROOF
Find the radius of convergence of the series
$frac{|a_{N+1}|}{|a_N|}$=$left|frac{left(ln left(n+1right)right)}{lnleft(n+2right)}left(sin x^2-sin x+1right)right|$
As n tends to ∞,
Using L'Hospital's Rule,
$frac{|a_{N+1}|}{|a_N|}$=$left|frac{left(left(n+2right)right)}{n+1}left(sin x^2-sin x+1right)right|$
=$left|left(sin x^2-sin x+1right)right|$ (As n tends to ∞)
This must be <1 for the series to converge
Therefore,
$left|left(sin x^2-sin x+1right)right|<1$ for the series to converge
Prove that the interval lies in these values.
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PARTIAL PROOF
Find the radius of convergence of the series
$frac{|a_{N+1}|}{|a_N|}$=$left|frac{left(ln left(n+1right)right)}{lnleft(n+2right)}left(sin x^2-sin x+1right)right|$
As n tends to ∞,
Using L'Hospital's Rule,
$frac{|a_{N+1}|}{|a_N|}$=$left|frac{left(left(n+2right)right)}{n+1}left(sin x^2-sin x+1right)right|$
=$left|left(sin x^2-sin x+1right)right|$ (As n tends to ∞)
This must be <1 for the series to converge
Therefore,
$left|left(sin x^2-sin x+1right)right|<1$ for the series to converge
Prove that the interval lies in these values.
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PARTIAL PROOF
Find the radius of convergence of the series
$frac{|a_{N+1}|}{|a_N|}$=$left|frac{left(ln left(n+1right)right)}{lnleft(n+2right)}left(sin x^2-sin x+1right)right|$
As n tends to ∞,
Using L'Hospital's Rule,
$frac{|a_{N+1}|}{|a_N|}$=$left|frac{left(left(n+2right)right)}{n+1}left(sin x^2-sin x+1right)right|$
=$left|left(sin x^2-sin x+1right)right|$ (As n tends to ∞)
This must be <1 for the series to converge
Therefore,
$left|left(sin x^2-sin x+1right)right|<1$ for the series to converge
Prove that the interval lies in these values.
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PARTIAL PROOF
Find the radius of convergence of the series
$frac{|a_{N+1}|}{|a_N|}$=$left|frac{left(ln left(n+1right)right)}{lnleft(n+2right)}left(sin x^2-sin x+1right)right|$
As n tends to ∞,
Using L'Hospital's Rule,
$frac{|a_{N+1}|}{|a_N|}$=$left|frac{left(left(n+2right)right)}{n+1}left(sin x^2-sin x+1right)right|$
=$left|left(sin x^2-sin x+1right)right|$ (As n tends to ∞)
This must be <1 for the series to converge
Therefore,
$left|left(sin x^2-sin x+1right)right|<1$ for the series to converge
Prove that the interval lies in these values.
answered Dec 11 '18 at 22:07
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$0<sin^2x-sin x+1<1$ in that interval.
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– David Peterson
Dec 11 '18 at 21:43
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why specifically $sin^2 x - sin x +1$ ? also what about the natural log? and should I be checking for $ frac{|a_n+1|}{a_n}$?
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– Mark
Dec 11 '18 at 21:45
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For any $x$, the numerator is equal to $r^n$ where $0<r<1$. For $n>1$, the denominator is greater than $1$. So your series is less-than-or-equal-to $sum r^n$
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– David Peterson
Dec 11 '18 at 21:50