Would granting every PC the choice of a feat or a cantrip be unbalancing?











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This question and the accepted answer are of the opinion that granting an extra feat to all PCs at level 1 does not affect game balance.



Would granting every PC the choice of a feat or a cantrip (as opposed to a feat only) be unbalancing?



I recognize that in some cases characters get racial cantrips, in which case, this house-rule extra cantrip would be in addition to racially granted ones.










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    This question and the accepted answer are of the opinion that granting an extra feat to all PCs at level 1 does not affect game balance.



    Would granting every PC the choice of a feat or a cantrip (as opposed to a feat only) be unbalancing?



    I recognize that in some cases characters get racial cantrips, in which case, this house-rule extra cantrip would be in addition to racially granted ones.










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      This question and the accepted answer are of the opinion that granting an extra feat to all PCs at level 1 does not affect game balance.



      Would granting every PC the choice of a feat or a cantrip (as opposed to a feat only) be unbalancing?



      I recognize that in some cases characters get racial cantrips, in which case, this house-rule extra cantrip would be in addition to racially granted ones.










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      This question and the accepted answer are of the opinion that granting an extra feat to all PCs at level 1 does not affect game balance.



      Would granting every PC the choice of a feat or a cantrip (as opposed to a feat only) be unbalancing?



      I recognize that in some cases characters get racial cantrips, in which case, this house-rule extra cantrip would be in addition to racially granted ones.







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          Since the Feat Magic Initiate grants 2 cantrips, giving the choice of gaining a single cantrip instead would be worse than granting a Feat.






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            Excellent observation. With my mod, a character could take a free house-rule cantrip at level 1, then Magic Initiate instead of an ASI, and with the potential for racial and class cantrips, end up cantripy as heck. That would be alright.
            – Jack
            Dec 5 at 17:23






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            @Jack If you are worried about a character with many cantrips you may be interested in checking this question
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            Dec 5 at 17:26






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            While true, this doesn't really answer the question. "Would it unbalance the game?" is the question, not "would anyone pick a cantrip over a feat?".
            – GreySage
            Dec 5 at 18:20






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            @Jack You're missing the point... Given the choice between "a feat" and "a cantrip", nobody in their right mind would take the cantrip, because there is a feat that allows a more than just that. The existence of Magic Initiate indicates that a feat is more valuable than a single cantrip. Your game would become slightly unbalanced in favor of the people who took the feat.
            – T.J.L.
            Dec 5 at 18:21






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            I feel like this isn't actually an answer to the question. just a problem with the question that should have really been a comment.
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          Since the Feat Magic Initiate grants 2 cantrips, giving the choice of gaining a single cantrip instead would be worse than granting a Feat.






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          • 5




            Excellent observation. With my mod, a character could take a free house-rule cantrip at level 1, then Magic Initiate instead of an ASI, and with the potential for racial and class cantrips, end up cantripy as heck. That would be alright.
            – Jack
            Dec 5 at 17:23






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            @Jack If you are worried about a character with many cantrips you may be interested in checking this question
            – Sdjz
            Dec 5 at 17:26






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            While true, this doesn't really answer the question. "Would it unbalance the game?" is the question, not "would anyone pick a cantrip over a feat?".
            – GreySage
            Dec 5 at 18:20






          • 7




            @Jack You're missing the point... Given the choice between "a feat" and "a cantrip", nobody in their right mind would take the cantrip, because there is a feat that allows a more than just that. The existence of Magic Initiate indicates that a feat is more valuable than a single cantrip. Your game would become slightly unbalanced in favor of the people who took the feat.
            – T.J.L.
            Dec 5 at 18:21






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            I feel like this isn't actually an answer to the question. just a problem with the question that should have really been a comment.
            – goodguy5
            Dec 5 at 19:28















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          Since the Feat Magic Initiate grants 2 cantrips, giving the choice of gaining a single cantrip instead would be worse than granting a Feat.






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          • 5




            Excellent observation. With my mod, a character could take a free house-rule cantrip at level 1, then Magic Initiate instead of an ASI, and with the potential for racial and class cantrips, end up cantripy as heck. That would be alright.
            – Jack
            Dec 5 at 17:23






          • 2




            @Jack If you are worried about a character with many cantrips you may be interested in checking this question
            – Sdjz
            Dec 5 at 17:26






          • 2




            While true, this doesn't really answer the question. "Would it unbalance the game?" is the question, not "would anyone pick a cantrip over a feat?".
            – GreySage
            Dec 5 at 18:20






          • 7




            @Jack You're missing the point... Given the choice between "a feat" and "a cantrip", nobody in their right mind would take the cantrip, because there is a feat that allows a more than just that. The existence of Magic Initiate indicates that a feat is more valuable than a single cantrip. Your game would become slightly unbalanced in favor of the people who took the feat.
            – T.J.L.
            Dec 5 at 18:21






          • 5




            I feel like this isn't actually an answer to the question. just a problem with the question that should have really been a comment.
            – goodguy5
            Dec 5 at 19:28













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          No.



          Since the Feat Magic Initiate grants 2 cantrips, giving the choice of gaining a single cantrip instead would be worse than granting a Feat.






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          No.



          Since the Feat Magic Initiate grants 2 cantrips, giving the choice of gaining a single cantrip instead would be worse than granting a Feat.







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          • 5




            Excellent observation. With my mod, a character could take a free house-rule cantrip at level 1, then Magic Initiate instead of an ASI, and with the potential for racial and class cantrips, end up cantripy as heck. That would be alright.
            – Jack
            Dec 5 at 17:23






          • 2




            @Jack If you are worried about a character with many cantrips you may be interested in checking this question
            – Sdjz
            Dec 5 at 17:26






          • 2




            While true, this doesn't really answer the question. "Would it unbalance the game?" is the question, not "would anyone pick a cantrip over a feat?".
            – GreySage
            Dec 5 at 18:20






          • 7




            @Jack You're missing the point... Given the choice between "a feat" and "a cantrip", nobody in their right mind would take the cantrip, because there is a feat that allows a more than just that. The existence of Magic Initiate indicates that a feat is more valuable than a single cantrip. Your game would become slightly unbalanced in favor of the people who took the feat.
            – T.J.L.
            Dec 5 at 18:21






          • 5




            I feel like this isn't actually an answer to the question. just a problem with the question that should have really been a comment.
            – goodguy5
            Dec 5 at 19:28














          • 5




            Excellent observation. With my mod, a character could take a free house-rule cantrip at level 1, then Magic Initiate instead of an ASI, and with the potential for racial and class cantrips, end up cantripy as heck. That would be alright.
            – Jack
            Dec 5 at 17:23






          • 2




            @Jack If you are worried about a character with many cantrips you may be interested in checking this question
            – Sdjz
            Dec 5 at 17:26






          • 2




            While true, this doesn't really answer the question. "Would it unbalance the game?" is the question, not "would anyone pick a cantrip over a feat?".
            – GreySage
            Dec 5 at 18:20






          • 7




            @Jack You're missing the point... Given the choice between "a feat" and "a cantrip", nobody in their right mind would take the cantrip, because there is a feat that allows a more than just that. The existence of Magic Initiate indicates that a feat is more valuable than a single cantrip. Your game would become slightly unbalanced in favor of the people who took the feat.
            – T.J.L.
            Dec 5 at 18:21






          • 5




            I feel like this isn't actually an answer to the question. just a problem with the question that should have really been a comment.
            – goodguy5
            Dec 5 at 19:28








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          5




          Excellent observation. With my mod, a character could take a free house-rule cantrip at level 1, then Magic Initiate instead of an ASI, and with the potential for racial and class cantrips, end up cantripy as heck. That would be alright.
          – Jack
          Dec 5 at 17:23




          Excellent observation. With my mod, a character could take a free house-rule cantrip at level 1, then Magic Initiate instead of an ASI, and with the potential for racial and class cantrips, end up cantripy as heck. That would be alright.
          – Jack
          Dec 5 at 17:23




          2




          2




          @Jack If you are worried about a character with many cantrips you may be interested in checking this question
          – Sdjz
          Dec 5 at 17:26




          @Jack If you are worried about a character with many cantrips you may be interested in checking this question
          – Sdjz
          Dec 5 at 17:26




          2




          2




          While true, this doesn't really answer the question. "Would it unbalance the game?" is the question, not "would anyone pick a cantrip over a feat?".
          – GreySage
          Dec 5 at 18:20




          While true, this doesn't really answer the question. "Would it unbalance the game?" is the question, not "would anyone pick a cantrip over a feat?".
          – GreySage
          Dec 5 at 18:20




          7




          7




          @Jack You're missing the point... Given the choice between "a feat" and "a cantrip", nobody in their right mind would take the cantrip, because there is a feat that allows a more than just that. The existence of Magic Initiate indicates that a feat is more valuable than a single cantrip. Your game would become slightly unbalanced in favor of the people who took the feat.
          – T.J.L.
          Dec 5 at 18:21




          @Jack You're missing the point... Given the choice between "a feat" and "a cantrip", nobody in their right mind would take the cantrip, because there is a feat that allows a more than just that. The existence of Magic Initiate indicates that a feat is more valuable than a single cantrip. Your game would become slightly unbalanced in favor of the people who took the feat.
          – T.J.L.
          Dec 5 at 18:21




          5




          5




          I feel like this isn't actually an answer to the question. just a problem with the question that should have really been a comment.
          – goodguy5
          Dec 5 at 19:28




          I feel like this isn't actually an answer to the question. just a problem with the question that should have really been a comment.
          – goodguy5
          Dec 5 at 19:28


















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