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I came across an equation regarding some cryptography article that said for each $i$
$z_i= mod( lfloor(s_i*f)rfloor+p_i, f)$ is reversible, i.e given $f, z,s$ we can get back $p$. My question is I doubt that this equation is invertible, but if at all this equation is invertible what makes it invertible, because there is a modulo operation involved and a flooring function which are not one-one










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    Maybe the article means this: although the $p$ you get back may not be unique, the uniqueness does not matter, i.e., the $p$ you obtain is unique up to this modulo operation; and this is sufficient for the cryptography to work. This is my hunch.
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    But how do you get back `a' $p$
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    What are the ranges/domains of of your functions/variables? What is the excact statement of the claim in the article?
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    $f=8$, $0leq p_ileq 255,~forall~ i$, $0leq s_ileq 1$
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    – Upstart
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    Consider operations in $Z/fZ$ simply
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I came across an equation regarding some cryptography article that said for each $i$
$z_i= mod( lfloor(s_i*f)rfloor+p_i, f)$ is reversible, i.e given $f, z,s$ we can get back $p$. My question is I doubt that this equation is invertible, but if at all this equation is invertible what makes it invertible, because there is a modulo operation involved and a flooring function which are not one-one










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  • $begingroup$
    Maybe the article means this: although the $p$ you get back may not be unique, the uniqueness does not matter, i.e., the $p$ you obtain is unique up to this modulo operation; and this is sufficient for the cryptography to work. This is my hunch.
    $endgroup$
    – user122049
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:06












  • $begingroup$
    But how do you get back `a' $p$
    $endgroup$
    – Upstart
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:10










  • $begingroup$
    What are the ranges/domains of of your functions/variables? What is the excact statement of the claim in the article?
    $endgroup$
    – gammatester
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:42












  • $begingroup$
    $f=8$, $0leq p_ileq 255,~forall~ i$, $0leq s_ileq 1$
    $endgroup$
    – Upstart
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:59










  • $begingroup$
    Consider operations in $Z/fZ$ simply
    $endgroup$
    – Damien
    Dec 23 '18 at 17:58














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$begingroup$


I came across an equation regarding some cryptography article that said for each $i$
$z_i= mod( lfloor(s_i*f)rfloor+p_i, f)$ is reversible, i.e given $f, z,s$ we can get back $p$. My question is I doubt that this equation is invertible, but if at all this equation is invertible what makes it invertible, because there is a modulo operation involved and a flooring function which are not one-one










share|cite|improve this question









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I came across an equation regarding some cryptography article that said for each $i$
$z_i= mod( lfloor(s_i*f)rfloor+p_i, f)$ is reversible, i.e given $f, z,s$ we can get back $p$. My question is I doubt that this equation is invertible, but if at all this equation is invertible what makes it invertible, because there is a modulo operation involved and a flooring function which are not one-one







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  • $begingroup$
    Maybe the article means this: although the $p$ you get back may not be unique, the uniqueness does not matter, i.e., the $p$ you obtain is unique up to this modulo operation; and this is sufficient for the cryptography to work. This is my hunch.
    $endgroup$
    – user122049
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:06












  • $begingroup$
    But how do you get back `a' $p$
    $endgroup$
    – Upstart
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:10










  • $begingroup$
    What are the ranges/domains of of your functions/variables? What is the excact statement of the claim in the article?
    $endgroup$
    – gammatester
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:42












  • $begingroup$
    $f=8$, $0leq p_ileq 255,~forall~ i$, $0leq s_ileq 1$
    $endgroup$
    – Upstart
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:59










  • $begingroup$
    Consider operations in $Z/fZ$ simply
    $endgroup$
    – Damien
    Dec 23 '18 at 17:58


















  • $begingroup$
    Maybe the article means this: although the $p$ you get back may not be unique, the uniqueness does not matter, i.e., the $p$ you obtain is unique up to this modulo operation; and this is sufficient for the cryptography to work. This is my hunch.
    $endgroup$
    – user122049
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:06












  • $begingroup$
    But how do you get back `a' $p$
    $endgroup$
    – Upstart
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:10










  • $begingroup$
    What are the ranges/domains of of your functions/variables? What is the excact statement of the claim in the article?
    $endgroup$
    – gammatester
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:42












  • $begingroup$
    $f=8$, $0leq p_ileq 255,~forall~ i$, $0leq s_ileq 1$
    $endgroup$
    – Upstart
    Dec 23 '18 at 14:59










  • $begingroup$
    Consider operations in $Z/fZ$ simply
    $endgroup$
    – Damien
    Dec 23 '18 at 17:58
















$begingroup$
Maybe the article means this: although the $p$ you get back may not be unique, the uniqueness does not matter, i.e., the $p$ you obtain is unique up to this modulo operation; and this is sufficient for the cryptography to work. This is my hunch.
$endgroup$
– user122049
Dec 23 '18 at 14:06






$begingroup$
Maybe the article means this: although the $p$ you get back may not be unique, the uniqueness does not matter, i.e., the $p$ you obtain is unique up to this modulo operation; and this is sufficient for the cryptography to work. This is my hunch.
$endgroup$
– user122049
Dec 23 '18 at 14:06














$begingroup$
But how do you get back `a' $p$
$endgroup$
– Upstart
Dec 23 '18 at 14:10




$begingroup$
But how do you get back `a' $p$
$endgroup$
– Upstart
Dec 23 '18 at 14:10












$begingroup$
What are the ranges/domains of of your functions/variables? What is the excact statement of the claim in the article?
$endgroup$
– gammatester
Dec 23 '18 at 14:42






$begingroup$
What are the ranges/domains of of your functions/variables? What is the excact statement of the claim in the article?
$endgroup$
– gammatester
Dec 23 '18 at 14:42














$begingroup$
$f=8$, $0leq p_ileq 255,~forall~ i$, $0leq s_ileq 1$
$endgroup$
– Upstart
Dec 23 '18 at 14:59




$begingroup$
$f=8$, $0leq p_ileq 255,~forall~ i$, $0leq s_ileq 1$
$endgroup$
– Upstart
Dec 23 '18 at 14:59












$begingroup$
Consider operations in $Z/fZ$ simply
$endgroup$
– Damien
Dec 23 '18 at 17:58




$begingroup$
Consider operations in $Z/fZ$ simply
$endgroup$
– Damien
Dec 23 '18 at 17:58










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