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Let $f:mathbb{R}rightarrowmathbb{R}$ be a measurable function. Show that if $f$ is continuous and fix $x_0in mathbb{R}$, then $lim_{nrightarrowinfty}nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}fdm=f(x_0)$.



Hint: Use the max-min theorem which says: For any continuous function $f$ on a compact set $[a,b]$, there are points $x_{max},x_{min}in[a,b]$ such that $f(x_{max})geq f(x)geq f(x_{min})$ for all $xin[a,b]$.










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  • I suggest you look at the definition of a Riemann integral. Try showing this result for a very simple partition.
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  • Think of applying mean value theorem on the function given by the indefinite integral of $f$, which is differentiable with derivative $f$.
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Let $f:mathbb{R}rightarrowmathbb{R}$ be a measurable function. Show that if $f$ is continuous and fix $x_0in mathbb{R}$, then $lim_{nrightarrowinfty}nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}fdm=f(x_0)$.



Hint: Use the max-min theorem which says: For any continuous function $f$ on a compact set $[a,b]$, there are points $x_{max},x_{min}in[a,b]$ such that $f(x_{max})geq f(x)geq f(x_{min})$ for all $xin[a,b]$.










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    – Kavi Rama Murthy
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  • I suggest you look at the definition of a Riemann integral. Try showing this result for a very simple partition.
    – Jabbath
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  • Think of applying mean value theorem on the function given by the indefinite integral of $f$, which is differentiable with derivative $f$.
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Let $f:mathbb{R}rightarrowmathbb{R}$ be a measurable function. Show that if $f$ is continuous and fix $x_0in mathbb{R}$, then $lim_{nrightarrowinfty}nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}fdm=f(x_0)$.



Hint: Use the max-min theorem which says: For any continuous function $f$ on a compact set $[a,b]$, there are points $x_{max},x_{min}in[a,b]$ such that $f(x_{max})geq f(x)geq f(x_{min})$ for all $xin[a,b]$.










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Let $f:mathbb{R}rightarrowmathbb{R}$ be a measurable function. Show that if $f$ is continuous and fix $x_0in mathbb{R}$, then $lim_{nrightarrowinfty}nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}fdm=f(x_0)$.



Hint: Use the max-min theorem which says: For any continuous function $f$ on a compact set $[a,b]$, there are points $x_{max},x_{min}in[a,b]$ such that $f(x_{max})geq f(x)geq f(x_{min})$ for all $xin[a,b]$.







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  • Try something more elementary. No Theorem from measure theory used to interchange limits and integrals is required.
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    yesterday












  • I suggest you look at the definition of a Riemann integral. Try showing this result for a very simple partition.
    – Jabbath
    yesterday










  • Think of applying mean value theorem on the function given by the indefinite integral of $f$, which is differentiable with derivative $f$.
    – астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
    yesterday


















  • Try something more elementary. No Theorem from measure theory used to interchange limits and integrals is required.
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    yesterday












  • I suggest you look at the definition of a Riemann integral. Try showing this result for a very simple partition.
    – Jabbath
    yesterday










  • Think of applying mean value theorem on the function given by the indefinite integral of $f$, which is differentiable with derivative $f$.
    – астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
    yesterday
















Try something more elementary. No Theorem from measure theory used to interchange limits and integrals is required.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
yesterday






Try something more elementary. No Theorem from measure theory used to interchange limits and integrals is required.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
yesterday














I suggest you look at the definition of a Riemann integral. Try showing this result for a very simple partition.
– Jabbath
yesterday




I suggest you look at the definition of a Riemann integral. Try showing this result for a very simple partition.
– Jabbath
yesterday












Think of applying mean value theorem on the function given by the indefinite integral of $f$, which is differentiable with derivative $f$.
– астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
yesterday




Think of applying mean value theorem on the function given by the indefinite integral of $f$, which is differentiable with derivative $f$.
– астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
yesterday










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The function is continuous, so we may just use the fundamental theorem of calculus for the Riemann integral, which of course agrees with the Lebesgue one.



By the FTC,
$$
lim_{hto 0}frac{1}{h}int_{x_0}^{x_0+h}f(x)mathrm dx=f(x_0)
$$

This will certainly hold along your particular sequence $h=1/n$.



If you want to work harder, for a given $epsilon>0$, find $delta>0$ with
$$
x_0-delta<x<x_0+deltaimplies f(x_0)-epsilon<f(x)<f(x_0)+epsilon
$$

then for $n>1/delta$, and with monotonicity of integration
$$
nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}f(x_0)-epsilon<nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}f(x)dx<nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}f(x_0)+epsilon\
implies f(x_0)-epsilon<nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}f(x)dx<f(x_0)+epsilon
$$






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    Unnecessarily sophisticated proof: start with the change of variable $x = x_0 + s/n$,
    $$nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}f(x),dx = int_0^1 f(x_0 + s/n),ds$$
    and apply the dominated convergence theorem (the continuity of $f$ in $x_0$ implies that the functions $smapsto f(x_0 + s/n)$ are uniformly bounded for $n$ large enough).



    Less sophisticated variant: the functions $smapsto f(x_0 + s/n)$ converge uniformly to the constant $f(x_0)$






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      The function is continuous, so we may just use the fundamental theorem of calculus for the Riemann integral, which of course agrees with the Lebesgue one.



      By the FTC,
      $$
      lim_{hto 0}frac{1}{h}int_{x_0}^{x_0+h}f(x)mathrm dx=f(x_0)
      $$

      This will certainly hold along your particular sequence $h=1/n$.



      If you want to work harder, for a given $epsilon>0$, find $delta>0$ with
      $$
      x_0-delta<x<x_0+deltaimplies f(x_0)-epsilon<f(x)<f(x_0)+epsilon
      $$

      then for $n>1/delta$, and with monotonicity of integration
      $$
      nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}f(x_0)-epsilon<nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}f(x)dx<nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}f(x_0)+epsilon\
      implies f(x_0)-epsilon<nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}f(x)dx<f(x_0)+epsilon
      $$






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        The function is continuous, so we may just use the fundamental theorem of calculus for the Riemann integral, which of course agrees with the Lebesgue one.



        By the FTC,
        $$
        lim_{hto 0}frac{1}{h}int_{x_0}^{x_0+h}f(x)mathrm dx=f(x_0)
        $$

        This will certainly hold along your particular sequence $h=1/n$.



        If you want to work harder, for a given $epsilon>0$, find $delta>0$ with
        $$
        x_0-delta<x<x_0+deltaimplies f(x_0)-epsilon<f(x)<f(x_0)+epsilon
        $$

        then for $n>1/delta$, and with monotonicity of integration
        $$
        nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}f(x_0)-epsilon<nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}f(x)dx<nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}f(x_0)+epsilon\
        implies f(x_0)-epsilon<nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}f(x)dx<f(x_0)+epsilon
        $$






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          The function is continuous, so we may just use the fundamental theorem of calculus for the Riemann integral, which of course agrees with the Lebesgue one.



          By the FTC,
          $$
          lim_{hto 0}frac{1}{h}int_{x_0}^{x_0+h}f(x)mathrm dx=f(x_0)
          $$

          This will certainly hold along your particular sequence $h=1/n$.



          If you want to work harder, for a given $epsilon>0$, find $delta>0$ with
          $$
          x_0-delta<x<x_0+deltaimplies f(x_0)-epsilon<f(x)<f(x_0)+epsilon
          $$

          then for $n>1/delta$, and with monotonicity of integration
          $$
          nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}f(x_0)-epsilon<nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}f(x)dx<nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}f(x_0)+epsilon\
          implies f(x_0)-epsilon<nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}f(x)dx<f(x_0)+epsilon
          $$






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          The function is continuous, so we may just use the fundamental theorem of calculus for the Riemann integral, which of course agrees with the Lebesgue one.



          By the FTC,
          $$
          lim_{hto 0}frac{1}{h}int_{x_0}^{x_0+h}f(x)mathrm dx=f(x_0)
          $$

          This will certainly hold along your particular sequence $h=1/n$.



          If you want to work harder, for a given $epsilon>0$, find $delta>0$ with
          $$
          x_0-delta<x<x_0+deltaimplies f(x_0)-epsilon<f(x)<f(x_0)+epsilon
          $$

          then for $n>1/delta$, and with monotonicity of integration
          $$
          nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}f(x_0)-epsilon<nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}f(x)dx<nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}f(x_0)+epsilon\
          implies f(x_0)-epsilon<nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}f(x)dx<f(x_0)+epsilon
          $$







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              Unnecessarily sophisticated proof: start with the change of variable $x = x_0 + s/n$,
              $$nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}f(x),dx = int_0^1 f(x_0 + s/n),ds$$
              and apply the dominated convergence theorem (the continuity of $f$ in $x_0$ implies that the functions $smapsto f(x_0 + s/n)$ are uniformly bounded for $n$ large enough).



              Less sophisticated variant: the functions $smapsto f(x_0 + s/n)$ converge uniformly to the constant $f(x_0)$






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                Unnecessarily sophisticated proof: start with the change of variable $x = x_0 + s/n$,
                $$nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}f(x),dx = int_0^1 f(x_0 + s/n),ds$$
                and apply the dominated convergence theorem (the continuity of $f$ in $x_0$ implies that the functions $smapsto f(x_0 + s/n)$ are uniformly bounded for $n$ large enough).



                Less sophisticated variant: the functions $smapsto f(x_0 + s/n)$ converge uniformly to the constant $f(x_0)$






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                  Unnecessarily sophisticated proof: start with the change of variable $x = x_0 + s/n$,
                  $$nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}f(x),dx = int_0^1 f(x_0 + s/n),ds$$
                  and apply the dominated convergence theorem (the continuity of $f$ in $x_0$ implies that the functions $smapsto f(x_0 + s/n)$ are uniformly bounded for $n$ large enough).



                  Less sophisticated variant: the functions $smapsto f(x_0 + s/n)$ converge uniformly to the constant $f(x_0)$






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                  Unnecessarily sophisticated proof: start with the change of variable $x = x_0 + s/n$,
                  $$nint_{x_0}^{x_0+1/n}f(x),dx = int_0^1 f(x_0 + s/n),ds$$
                  and apply the dominated convergence theorem (the continuity of $f$ in $x_0$ implies that the functions $smapsto f(x_0 + s/n)$ are uniformly bounded for $n$ large enough).



                  Less sophisticated variant: the functions $smapsto f(x_0 + s/n)$ converge uniformly to the constant $f(x_0)$







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