$f$ continuous, moderate decrease and $int_{-infty}^{infty}f(y)e^{-y^{2}}e^{2xy}dy=0$ implies $f=0$.
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Let $f$ a continuous function, moderate decrease and satisfying
begin{equation}
int_{-infty}^{infty}f(y)e^{-y^{2}}e^{2xy}dy=0
end{equation}
for all $xinmathbb{R}$ I need to prove that $f=0$.
The hint is to consider $f*e^{-x^2}$. I know that both $f$ and $e^{-x^{2}}$ are moderate decrease, so the convolution is too, i.e., $exists A>0$ such that $|(f*e^{-x^2})(x)|leqfrac{A}{1+x^{2}}$ for all $xinmathbb{R}.$ So,
$$|(f*e^{-x^2})(x)|=left|int_{-infty}^{infty}f(x-y)e^{-y^{2}}dyright|leqfrac{A}{1+x^{2}} $$
How can I use the $int_{-infty}^{infty}f(y)e^{-y^{2}}e^{2xy}dy=0$ condition?
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Let $f$ a continuous function, moderate decrease and satisfying
begin{equation}
int_{-infty}^{infty}f(y)e^{-y^{2}}e^{2xy}dy=0
end{equation}
for all $xinmathbb{R}$ I need to prove that $f=0$.
The hint is to consider $f*e^{-x^2}$. I know that both $f$ and $e^{-x^{2}}$ are moderate decrease, so the convolution is too, i.e., $exists A>0$ such that $|(f*e^{-x^2})(x)|leqfrac{A}{1+x^{2}}$ for all $xinmathbb{R}.$ So,
$$|(f*e^{-x^2})(x)|=left|int_{-infty}^{infty}f(x-y)e^{-y^{2}}dyright|leqfrac{A}{1+x^{2}} $$
How can I use the $int_{-infty}^{infty}f(y)e^{-y^{2}}e^{2xy}dy=0$ condition?
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Let $f$ a continuous function, moderate decrease and satisfying
begin{equation}
int_{-infty}^{infty}f(y)e^{-y^{2}}e^{2xy}dy=0
end{equation}
for all $xinmathbb{R}$ I need to prove that $f=0$.
The hint is to consider $f*e^{-x^2}$. I know that both $f$ and $e^{-x^{2}}$ are moderate decrease, so the convolution is too, i.e., $exists A>0$ such that $|(f*e^{-x^2})(x)|leqfrac{A}{1+x^{2}}$ for all $xinmathbb{R}.$ So,
$$|(f*e^{-x^2})(x)|=left|int_{-infty}^{infty}f(x-y)e^{-y^{2}}dyright|leqfrac{A}{1+x^{2}} $$
How can I use the $int_{-infty}^{infty}f(y)e^{-y^{2}}e^{2xy}dy=0$ condition?
exponential-function convolution
Let $f$ a continuous function, moderate decrease and satisfying
begin{equation}
int_{-infty}^{infty}f(y)e^{-y^{2}}e^{2xy}dy=0
end{equation}
for all $xinmathbb{R}$ I need to prove that $f=0$.
The hint is to consider $f*e^{-x^2}$. I know that both $f$ and $e^{-x^{2}}$ are moderate decrease, so the convolution is too, i.e., $exists A>0$ such that $|(f*e^{-x^2})(x)|leqfrac{A}{1+x^{2}}$ for all $xinmathbb{R}.$ So,
$$|(f*e^{-x^2})(x)|=left|int_{-infty}^{infty}f(x-y)e^{-y^{2}}dyright|leqfrac{A}{1+x^{2}} $$
How can I use the $int_{-infty}^{infty}f(y)e^{-y^{2}}e^{2xy}dy=0$ condition?
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Noting $e^{-y^2 + 2xy} = e^{-(y - x)^2 + x^2} = e^{-(x - y)^2}e^{x^2}$, the integral condition implies $f * e^{-x^2} = 0$ for all $x$. Taking the Fourier transform of $f * e^{-x^2}$, using the fact that the Fourier transform of a convolution is the product of the Fourier transforms, deduce that the Fourier transform $hat{f} = 0$. Since $lvert f(x)rvert$ is bounded by a constant times $1/(1 + x^2)$, then $int_{-infty}^infty lvert f(x)rvert , dx < infty$. Since both $f$ and $hat{f}$ are in $L^1(Bbb R)$, by the Fourier inversion theorem $f = 0$.
If the Fourier transform $hat{f}equiv 0$, then doesn't it follow immediately that $fequiv 0$? I am curious about the work after the conclusion that $hat{f}equiv0$, which seems unnecessary.
– Batominovski
Nov 16 at 19:21
@Batominovski we would need both $f$ and $hat{f}$ to be in $L^1(Bbb R)$ in order to claim immediately that $f = 0$.
– kobe
Nov 16 at 19:23
But $f$ decays moderately, so $f$ is in $L^1(mathbb{R})$. Since $hat{f}equiv 0$, $hat{f}$ is also in $L^1(mathbb{R})$. Am I right?
– Batominovski
Nov 16 at 19:27
@Batominovski indeed, I was being overly careful. Will edit soon.
– kobe
Nov 16 at 19:29
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@MateusRocha since $f*e^{-x^2} = int_{-infty}^infty f(y)e^{-(x-y)^2}, dx = e^{-x^2}int_{-infty}^infty f(y)e^{-y^2+2xy}, dy = 0$.
– kobe
Nov 17 at 22:13
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Noting $e^{-y^2 + 2xy} = e^{-(y - x)^2 + x^2} = e^{-(x - y)^2}e^{x^2}$, the integral condition implies $f * e^{-x^2} = 0$ for all $x$. Taking the Fourier transform of $f * e^{-x^2}$, using the fact that the Fourier transform of a convolution is the product of the Fourier transforms, deduce that the Fourier transform $hat{f} = 0$. Since $lvert f(x)rvert$ is bounded by a constant times $1/(1 + x^2)$, then $int_{-infty}^infty lvert f(x)rvert , dx < infty$. Since both $f$ and $hat{f}$ are in $L^1(Bbb R)$, by the Fourier inversion theorem $f = 0$.
If the Fourier transform $hat{f}equiv 0$, then doesn't it follow immediately that $fequiv 0$? I am curious about the work after the conclusion that $hat{f}equiv0$, which seems unnecessary.
– Batominovski
Nov 16 at 19:21
@Batominovski we would need both $f$ and $hat{f}$ to be in $L^1(Bbb R)$ in order to claim immediately that $f = 0$.
– kobe
Nov 16 at 19:23
But $f$ decays moderately, so $f$ is in $L^1(mathbb{R})$. Since $hat{f}equiv 0$, $hat{f}$ is also in $L^1(mathbb{R})$. Am I right?
– Batominovski
Nov 16 at 19:27
@Batominovski indeed, I was being overly careful. Will edit soon.
– kobe
Nov 16 at 19:29
1
@MateusRocha since $f*e^{-x^2} = int_{-infty}^infty f(y)e^{-(x-y)^2}, dx = e^{-x^2}int_{-infty}^infty f(y)e^{-y^2+2xy}, dy = 0$.
– kobe
Nov 17 at 22:13
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Noting $e^{-y^2 + 2xy} = e^{-(y - x)^2 + x^2} = e^{-(x - y)^2}e^{x^2}$, the integral condition implies $f * e^{-x^2} = 0$ for all $x$. Taking the Fourier transform of $f * e^{-x^2}$, using the fact that the Fourier transform of a convolution is the product of the Fourier transforms, deduce that the Fourier transform $hat{f} = 0$. Since $lvert f(x)rvert$ is bounded by a constant times $1/(1 + x^2)$, then $int_{-infty}^infty lvert f(x)rvert , dx < infty$. Since both $f$ and $hat{f}$ are in $L^1(Bbb R)$, by the Fourier inversion theorem $f = 0$.
If the Fourier transform $hat{f}equiv 0$, then doesn't it follow immediately that $fequiv 0$? I am curious about the work after the conclusion that $hat{f}equiv0$, which seems unnecessary.
– Batominovski
Nov 16 at 19:21
@Batominovski we would need both $f$ and $hat{f}$ to be in $L^1(Bbb R)$ in order to claim immediately that $f = 0$.
– kobe
Nov 16 at 19:23
But $f$ decays moderately, so $f$ is in $L^1(mathbb{R})$. Since $hat{f}equiv 0$, $hat{f}$ is also in $L^1(mathbb{R})$. Am I right?
– Batominovski
Nov 16 at 19:27
@Batominovski indeed, I was being overly careful. Will edit soon.
– kobe
Nov 16 at 19:29
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@MateusRocha since $f*e^{-x^2} = int_{-infty}^infty f(y)e^{-(x-y)^2}, dx = e^{-x^2}int_{-infty}^infty f(y)e^{-y^2+2xy}, dy = 0$.
– kobe
Nov 17 at 22:13
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up vote
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Noting $e^{-y^2 + 2xy} = e^{-(y - x)^2 + x^2} = e^{-(x - y)^2}e^{x^2}$, the integral condition implies $f * e^{-x^2} = 0$ for all $x$. Taking the Fourier transform of $f * e^{-x^2}$, using the fact that the Fourier transform of a convolution is the product of the Fourier transforms, deduce that the Fourier transform $hat{f} = 0$. Since $lvert f(x)rvert$ is bounded by a constant times $1/(1 + x^2)$, then $int_{-infty}^infty lvert f(x)rvert , dx < infty$. Since both $f$ and $hat{f}$ are in $L^1(Bbb R)$, by the Fourier inversion theorem $f = 0$.
Noting $e^{-y^2 + 2xy} = e^{-(y - x)^2 + x^2} = e^{-(x - y)^2}e^{x^2}$, the integral condition implies $f * e^{-x^2} = 0$ for all $x$. Taking the Fourier transform of $f * e^{-x^2}$, using the fact that the Fourier transform of a convolution is the product of the Fourier transforms, deduce that the Fourier transform $hat{f} = 0$. Since $lvert f(x)rvert$ is bounded by a constant times $1/(1 + x^2)$, then $int_{-infty}^infty lvert f(x)rvert , dx < infty$. Since both $f$ and $hat{f}$ are in $L^1(Bbb R)$, by the Fourier inversion theorem $f = 0$.
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answered Nov 16 at 19:02
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If the Fourier transform $hat{f}equiv 0$, then doesn't it follow immediately that $fequiv 0$? I am curious about the work after the conclusion that $hat{f}equiv0$, which seems unnecessary.
– Batominovski
Nov 16 at 19:21
@Batominovski we would need both $f$ and $hat{f}$ to be in $L^1(Bbb R)$ in order to claim immediately that $f = 0$.
– kobe
Nov 16 at 19:23
But $f$ decays moderately, so $f$ is in $L^1(mathbb{R})$. Since $hat{f}equiv 0$, $hat{f}$ is also in $L^1(mathbb{R})$. Am I right?
– Batominovski
Nov 16 at 19:27
@Batominovski indeed, I was being overly careful. Will edit soon.
– kobe
Nov 16 at 19:29
1
@MateusRocha since $f*e^{-x^2} = int_{-infty}^infty f(y)e^{-(x-y)^2}, dx = e^{-x^2}int_{-infty}^infty f(y)e^{-y^2+2xy}, dy = 0$.
– kobe
Nov 17 at 22:13
|
show 1 more comment
If the Fourier transform $hat{f}equiv 0$, then doesn't it follow immediately that $fequiv 0$? I am curious about the work after the conclusion that $hat{f}equiv0$, which seems unnecessary.
– Batominovski
Nov 16 at 19:21
@Batominovski we would need both $f$ and $hat{f}$ to be in $L^1(Bbb R)$ in order to claim immediately that $f = 0$.
– kobe
Nov 16 at 19:23
But $f$ decays moderately, so $f$ is in $L^1(mathbb{R})$. Since $hat{f}equiv 0$, $hat{f}$ is also in $L^1(mathbb{R})$. Am I right?
– Batominovski
Nov 16 at 19:27
@Batominovski indeed, I was being overly careful. Will edit soon.
– kobe
Nov 16 at 19:29
1
@MateusRocha since $f*e^{-x^2} = int_{-infty}^infty f(y)e^{-(x-y)^2}, dx = e^{-x^2}int_{-infty}^infty f(y)e^{-y^2+2xy}, dy = 0$.
– kobe
Nov 17 at 22:13
If the Fourier transform $hat{f}equiv 0$, then doesn't it follow immediately that $fequiv 0$? I am curious about the work after the conclusion that $hat{f}equiv0$, which seems unnecessary.
– Batominovski
Nov 16 at 19:21
If the Fourier transform $hat{f}equiv 0$, then doesn't it follow immediately that $fequiv 0$? I am curious about the work after the conclusion that $hat{f}equiv0$, which seems unnecessary.
– Batominovski
Nov 16 at 19:21
@Batominovski we would need both $f$ and $hat{f}$ to be in $L^1(Bbb R)$ in order to claim immediately that $f = 0$.
– kobe
Nov 16 at 19:23
@Batominovski we would need both $f$ and $hat{f}$ to be in $L^1(Bbb R)$ in order to claim immediately that $f = 0$.
– kobe
Nov 16 at 19:23
But $f$ decays moderately, so $f$ is in $L^1(mathbb{R})$. Since $hat{f}equiv 0$, $hat{f}$ is also in $L^1(mathbb{R})$. Am I right?
– Batominovski
Nov 16 at 19:27
But $f$ decays moderately, so $f$ is in $L^1(mathbb{R})$. Since $hat{f}equiv 0$, $hat{f}$ is also in $L^1(mathbb{R})$. Am I right?
– Batominovski
Nov 16 at 19:27
@Batominovski indeed, I was being overly careful. Will edit soon.
– kobe
Nov 16 at 19:29
@Batominovski indeed, I was being overly careful. Will edit soon.
– kobe
Nov 16 at 19:29
1
1
@MateusRocha since $f*e^{-x^2} = int_{-infty}^infty f(y)e^{-(x-y)^2}, dx = e^{-x^2}int_{-infty}^infty f(y)e^{-y^2+2xy}, dy = 0$.
– kobe
Nov 17 at 22:13
@MateusRocha since $f*e^{-x^2} = int_{-infty}^infty f(y)e^{-(x-y)^2}, dx = e^{-x^2}int_{-infty}^infty f(y)e^{-y^2+2xy}, dy = 0$.
– kobe
Nov 17 at 22:13
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