Does $int_1^infty frac{ln(x)}{x^2} dx $ converge or diverge?
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I tried to solve it in an intuitive manner, but I am not sure if it's right or wrong. Some feedback would be lovely!
This is how I approached the problem.
Step 1: I used integration by parts.
$ int_1^infty frac{ln(x)}{x^2} dx = int_1^infty ln(x) frac{mathrm d}{mathrm d x} big( -frac{1}{x} big) dx = left.-frac{ln(x)}{x}right|_1^infty + int_1^infty frac{1}{x^2}dx $
Step 2: Verify if $int_1^infty frac{1}{x^2}dx$ converges or not.
Fact:
$int_1^infty frac{1}{x^p}dx$ for p > 1 the area under the graph is finite and the integral converges.
In our case we have: $int_1^infty frac{1}{x^2}dx$ where 2 > 1 $overset{Fact}{implies}$ $int_1^infty frac{1}{x^2}dx$ converges.
Step 3: Let's see what happens with $left.-frac{ln(x)}{x}right|_1^infty$
If we take
$limlimits_{b to infty} left.-frac{ln(x)}{x}right|_1^b implies -limlimits_{b to infty} frac{ln(b)}{b}-0 overset{L'Hopital}{implies} -limlimits_{b to infty} frac{1}{b} = 0 $
Therefore I concluded that this part: $left.-frac{ln(x)}{x}right|_1^infty$ does not affect my convergence since it's zero.
Finally from steps (1), (2) and (3) we can see that $int_1^infty frac{ln(x)}{x^2} dx $ converges.
What do you think guys, did I do something wrong?
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I tried to solve it in an intuitive manner, but I am not sure if it's right or wrong. Some feedback would be lovely!
This is how I approached the problem.
Step 1: I used integration by parts.
$ int_1^infty frac{ln(x)}{x^2} dx = int_1^infty ln(x) frac{mathrm d}{mathrm d x} big( -frac{1}{x} big) dx = left.-frac{ln(x)}{x}right|_1^infty + int_1^infty frac{1}{x^2}dx $
Step 2: Verify if $int_1^infty frac{1}{x^2}dx$ converges or not.
Fact:
$int_1^infty frac{1}{x^p}dx$ for p > 1 the area under the graph is finite and the integral converges.
In our case we have: $int_1^infty frac{1}{x^2}dx$ where 2 > 1 $overset{Fact}{implies}$ $int_1^infty frac{1}{x^2}dx$ converges.
Step 3: Let's see what happens with $left.-frac{ln(x)}{x}right|_1^infty$
If we take
$limlimits_{b to infty} left.-frac{ln(x)}{x}right|_1^b implies -limlimits_{b to infty} frac{ln(b)}{b}-0 overset{L'Hopital}{implies} -limlimits_{b to infty} frac{1}{b} = 0 $
Therefore I concluded that this part: $left.-frac{ln(x)}{x}right|_1^infty$ does not affect my convergence since it's zero.
Finally from steps (1), (2) and (3) we can see that $int_1^infty frac{ln(x)}{x^2} dx $ converges.
What do you think guys, did I do something wrong?
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I tried to solve it in an intuitive manner, but I am not sure if it's right or wrong. Some feedback would be lovely!
This is how I approached the problem.
Step 1: I used integration by parts.
$ int_1^infty frac{ln(x)}{x^2} dx = int_1^infty ln(x) frac{mathrm d}{mathrm d x} big( -frac{1}{x} big) dx = left.-frac{ln(x)}{x}right|_1^infty + int_1^infty frac{1}{x^2}dx $
Step 2: Verify if $int_1^infty frac{1}{x^2}dx$ converges or not.
Fact:
$int_1^infty frac{1}{x^p}dx$ for p > 1 the area under the graph is finite and the integral converges.
In our case we have: $int_1^infty frac{1}{x^2}dx$ where 2 > 1 $overset{Fact}{implies}$ $int_1^infty frac{1}{x^2}dx$ converges.
Step 3: Let's see what happens with $left.-frac{ln(x)}{x}right|_1^infty$
If we take
$limlimits_{b to infty} left.-frac{ln(x)}{x}right|_1^b implies -limlimits_{b to infty} frac{ln(b)}{b}-0 overset{L'Hopital}{implies} -limlimits_{b to infty} frac{1}{b} = 0 $
Therefore I concluded that this part: $left.-frac{ln(x)}{x}right|_1^infty$ does not affect my convergence since it's zero.
Finally from steps (1), (2) and (3) we can see that $int_1^infty frac{ln(x)}{x^2} dx $ converges.
What do you think guys, did I do something wrong?
calculus convergence
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I tried to solve it in an intuitive manner, but I am not sure if it's right or wrong. Some feedback would be lovely!
This is how I approached the problem.
Step 1: I used integration by parts.
$ int_1^infty frac{ln(x)}{x^2} dx = int_1^infty ln(x) frac{mathrm d}{mathrm d x} big( -frac{1}{x} big) dx = left.-frac{ln(x)}{x}right|_1^infty + int_1^infty frac{1}{x^2}dx $
Step 2: Verify if $int_1^infty frac{1}{x^2}dx$ converges or not.
Fact:
$int_1^infty frac{1}{x^p}dx$ for p > 1 the area under the graph is finite and the integral converges.
In our case we have: $int_1^infty frac{1}{x^2}dx$ where 2 > 1 $overset{Fact}{implies}$ $int_1^infty frac{1}{x^2}dx$ converges.
Step 3: Let's see what happens with $left.-frac{ln(x)}{x}right|_1^infty$
If we take
$limlimits_{b to infty} left.-frac{ln(x)}{x}right|_1^b implies -limlimits_{b to infty} frac{ln(b)}{b}-0 overset{L'Hopital}{implies} -limlimits_{b to infty} frac{1}{b} = 0 $
Therefore I concluded that this part: $left.-frac{ln(x)}{x}right|_1^infty$ does not affect my convergence since it's zero.
Finally from steps (1), (2) and (3) we can see that $int_1^infty frac{ln(x)}{x^2} dx $ converges.
What do you think guys, did I do something wrong?
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More simply we have that as $x to 1$
$$ frac{ln(x)}{x^2}to 0$$
and as $x to infty$
$$frac{frac{ln(x)}{x^2}}{frac1{x^{3/2}}} to 0$$
then the integral converges by limit comparison test with $int frac1{x^{3/2}}dx$.
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I'm sorry, where did you get $frac{1}{x^{3/2}}$ from?
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– Ryk
Dec 9 '18 at 23:15
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@Ryk That's why is crucial in caluslus know very well the standard limits. Indeed we know that for any $a>0$ we have as $x to infty$ $$frac{log x}{x^a} to 0$$
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– gimusi
Dec 9 '18 at 23:17
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@Ryk The other thing to have clear is that $$int_1^infty frac{1}{x^p} dx$$ converges for any $p>1$.
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– gimusi
Dec 9 '18 at 23:18
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Then since we have $x^2$ at the denominator it suffices use limit comparison test with any $int_1^infty frac{1}{x^r} dx$ assuming $1<r<2$. I've chosen $r=3/2$.
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– gimusi
Dec 9 '18 at 23:20
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Oh I got it now..thanks!
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I like to also post an answer here to give a bit more intuition.
Let me first start off with saying that your proof is perfectly fine (although the typesetting might not be entirely optimal).
So, the first thing you should try to remember when you are solving this exercise is that your intuition should tell you that $log(x)$ diverges rather slowly to infinity. In fact, $x^a$, where $a>0$, diverges quicker to infinity, as you can see from evaluating the limit $log(x)/x^a$ for $x$ tending to infinity. To be more specific, we could conclude from this that for any $a>0$, we can find an $X_a>0$ such that for all $x>X_a$, we have that
$$ frac{log x}{x^2} leq frac{x^a}{x^2}. $$
In particular, we could choose $a=1/2$ but any will do.
The second thing you could do is trying to use this fact in this exercise. For example, we know that $$int_1^{infty} frac{x^a}{x^2},mathrm{d} x$$
is finite if $a<1$. So, this limits our choice for $a$ from $(0,infty)$ to $(0,1)$ but we still have enough choice here.
Now, combine these two facts to solve this exercise. So we pick an $0<a<1$ and we split up the integral in two parts: the first finite part and its tail. Note that its tail usually determines whether or not the integral will be finite. We get
$$int_1^{infty} frac{log x}{x^2},mathrm{d} x=int_1^{X_a} frac{log x}{x^2},mathrm{d} x+int_{X_a}^{infty} frac{log x}{x^2},mathrm{d} xleqint_1^{X_a} frac{log x}{x^2},mathrm{d} x+int_{X_a}^{infty} frac{x^a}{x^2},mathrm{d} x.$$
Finally we say that both integrals are finite. The first one because we are integrating a continuous function on an interval of finite length. The second one because $a < 1$ as we concluded earlier.
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Thank you for your answer, nice approach!
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More simply we have that as $x to 1$
$$ frac{ln(x)}{x^2}to 0$$
and as $x to infty$
$$frac{frac{ln(x)}{x^2}}{frac1{x^{3/2}}} to 0$$
then the integral converges by limit comparison test with $int frac1{x^{3/2}}dx$.
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I'm sorry, where did you get $frac{1}{x^{3/2}}$ from?
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– Ryk
Dec 9 '18 at 23:15
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@Ryk That's why is crucial in caluslus know very well the standard limits. Indeed we know that for any $a>0$ we have as $x to infty$ $$frac{log x}{x^a} to 0$$
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– gimusi
Dec 9 '18 at 23:17
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@Ryk The other thing to have clear is that $$int_1^infty frac{1}{x^p} dx$$ converges for any $p>1$.
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– gimusi
Dec 9 '18 at 23:18
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Then since we have $x^2$ at the denominator it suffices use limit comparison test with any $int_1^infty frac{1}{x^r} dx$ assuming $1<r<2$. I've chosen $r=3/2$.
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– gimusi
Dec 9 '18 at 23:20
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Oh I got it now..thanks!
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– Ryk
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More simply we have that as $x to 1$
$$ frac{ln(x)}{x^2}to 0$$
and as $x to infty$
$$frac{frac{ln(x)}{x^2}}{frac1{x^{3/2}}} to 0$$
then the integral converges by limit comparison test with $int frac1{x^{3/2}}dx$.
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I'm sorry, where did you get $frac{1}{x^{3/2}}$ from?
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– Ryk
Dec 9 '18 at 23:15
1
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@Ryk That's why is crucial in caluslus know very well the standard limits. Indeed we know that for any $a>0$ we have as $x to infty$ $$frac{log x}{x^a} to 0$$
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– gimusi
Dec 9 '18 at 23:17
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@Ryk The other thing to have clear is that $$int_1^infty frac{1}{x^p} dx$$ converges for any $p>1$.
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– gimusi
Dec 9 '18 at 23:18
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Then since we have $x^2$ at the denominator it suffices use limit comparison test with any $int_1^infty frac{1}{x^r} dx$ assuming $1<r<2$. I've chosen $r=3/2$.
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– gimusi
Dec 9 '18 at 23:20
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Oh I got it now..thanks!
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– Ryk
Dec 9 '18 at 23:23
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More simply we have that as $x to 1$
$$ frac{ln(x)}{x^2}to 0$$
and as $x to infty$
$$frac{frac{ln(x)}{x^2}}{frac1{x^{3/2}}} to 0$$
then the integral converges by limit comparison test with $int frac1{x^{3/2}}dx$.
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More simply we have that as $x to 1$
$$ frac{ln(x)}{x^2}to 0$$
and as $x to infty$
$$frac{frac{ln(x)}{x^2}}{frac1{x^{3/2}}} to 0$$
then the integral converges by limit comparison test with $int frac1{x^{3/2}}dx$.
answered Dec 9 '18 at 23:13
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I'm sorry, where did you get $frac{1}{x^{3/2}}$ from?
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– Ryk
Dec 9 '18 at 23:15
1
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@Ryk That's why is crucial in caluslus know very well the standard limits. Indeed we know that for any $a>0$ we have as $x to infty$ $$frac{log x}{x^a} to 0$$
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– gimusi
Dec 9 '18 at 23:17
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@Ryk The other thing to have clear is that $$int_1^infty frac{1}{x^p} dx$$ converges for any $p>1$.
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– gimusi
Dec 9 '18 at 23:18
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Then since we have $x^2$ at the denominator it suffices use limit comparison test with any $int_1^infty frac{1}{x^r} dx$ assuming $1<r<2$. I've chosen $r=3/2$.
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– gimusi
Dec 9 '18 at 23:20
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Oh I got it now..thanks!
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– Ryk
Dec 9 '18 at 23:23
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show 1 more comment
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I'm sorry, where did you get $frac{1}{x^{3/2}}$ from?
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– Ryk
Dec 9 '18 at 23:15
1
$begingroup$
@Ryk That's why is crucial in caluslus know very well the standard limits. Indeed we know that for any $a>0$ we have as $x to infty$ $$frac{log x}{x^a} to 0$$
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– gimusi
Dec 9 '18 at 23:17
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@Ryk The other thing to have clear is that $$int_1^infty frac{1}{x^p} dx$$ converges for any $p>1$.
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– gimusi
Dec 9 '18 at 23:18
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Then since we have $x^2$ at the denominator it suffices use limit comparison test with any $int_1^infty frac{1}{x^r} dx$ assuming $1<r<2$. I've chosen $r=3/2$.
$endgroup$
– gimusi
Dec 9 '18 at 23:20
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Oh I got it now..thanks!
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– Ryk
Dec 9 '18 at 23:23
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I'm sorry, where did you get $frac{1}{x^{3/2}}$ from?
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– Ryk
Dec 9 '18 at 23:15
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I'm sorry, where did you get $frac{1}{x^{3/2}}$ from?
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– Ryk
Dec 9 '18 at 23:15
1
1
$begingroup$
@Ryk That's why is crucial in caluslus know very well the standard limits. Indeed we know that for any $a>0$ we have as $x to infty$ $$frac{log x}{x^a} to 0$$
$endgroup$
– gimusi
Dec 9 '18 at 23:17
$begingroup$
@Ryk That's why is crucial in caluslus know very well the standard limits. Indeed we know that for any $a>0$ we have as $x to infty$ $$frac{log x}{x^a} to 0$$
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– gimusi
Dec 9 '18 at 23:17
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@Ryk The other thing to have clear is that $$int_1^infty frac{1}{x^p} dx$$ converges for any $p>1$.
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– gimusi
Dec 9 '18 at 23:18
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@Ryk The other thing to have clear is that $$int_1^infty frac{1}{x^p} dx$$ converges for any $p>1$.
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– gimusi
Dec 9 '18 at 23:18
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Then since we have $x^2$ at the denominator it suffices use limit comparison test with any $int_1^infty frac{1}{x^r} dx$ assuming $1<r<2$. I've chosen $r=3/2$.
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– gimusi
Dec 9 '18 at 23:20
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Then since we have $x^2$ at the denominator it suffices use limit comparison test with any $int_1^infty frac{1}{x^r} dx$ assuming $1<r<2$. I've chosen $r=3/2$.
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– gimusi
Dec 9 '18 at 23:20
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Oh I got it now..thanks!
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– Ryk
Dec 9 '18 at 23:23
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Oh I got it now..thanks!
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– Ryk
Dec 9 '18 at 23:23
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I like to also post an answer here to give a bit more intuition.
Let me first start off with saying that your proof is perfectly fine (although the typesetting might not be entirely optimal).
So, the first thing you should try to remember when you are solving this exercise is that your intuition should tell you that $log(x)$ diverges rather slowly to infinity. In fact, $x^a$, where $a>0$, diverges quicker to infinity, as you can see from evaluating the limit $log(x)/x^a$ for $x$ tending to infinity. To be more specific, we could conclude from this that for any $a>0$, we can find an $X_a>0$ such that for all $x>X_a$, we have that
$$ frac{log x}{x^2} leq frac{x^a}{x^2}. $$
In particular, we could choose $a=1/2$ but any will do.
The second thing you could do is trying to use this fact in this exercise. For example, we know that $$int_1^{infty} frac{x^a}{x^2},mathrm{d} x$$
is finite if $a<1$. So, this limits our choice for $a$ from $(0,infty)$ to $(0,1)$ but we still have enough choice here.
Now, combine these two facts to solve this exercise. So we pick an $0<a<1$ and we split up the integral in two parts: the first finite part and its tail. Note that its tail usually determines whether or not the integral will be finite. We get
$$int_1^{infty} frac{log x}{x^2},mathrm{d} x=int_1^{X_a} frac{log x}{x^2},mathrm{d} x+int_{X_a}^{infty} frac{log x}{x^2},mathrm{d} xleqint_1^{X_a} frac{log x}{x^2},mathrm{d} x+int_{X_a}^{infty} frac{x^a}{x^2},mathrm{d} x.$$
Finally we say that both integrals are finite. The first one because we are integrating a continuous function on an interval of finite length. The second one because $a < 1$ as we concluded earlier.
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Thank you for your answer, nice approach!
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– Ryk
Dec 10 '18 at 9:58
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I like to also post an answer here to give a bit more intuition.
Let me first start off with saying that your proof is perfectly fine (although the typesetting might not be entirely optimal).
So, the first thing you should try to remember when you are solving this exercise is that your intuition should tell you that $log(x)$ diverges rather slowly to infinity. In fact, $x^a$, where $a>0$, diverges quicker to infinity, as you can see from evaluating the limit $log(x)/x^a$ for $x$ tending to infinity. To be more specific, we could conclude from this that for any $a>0$, we can find an $X_a>0$ such that for all $x>X_a$, we have that
$$ frac{log x}{x^2} leq frac{x^a}{x^2}. $$
In particular, we could choose $a=1/2$ but any will do.
The second thing you could do is trying to use this fact in this exercise. For example, we know that $$int_1^{infty} frac{x^a}{x^2},mathrm{d} x$$
is finite if $a<1$. So, this limits our choice for $a$ from $(0,infty)$ to $(0,1)$ but we still have enough choice here.
Now, combine these two facts to solve this exercise. So we pick an $0<a<1$ and we split up the integral in two parts: the first finite part and its tail. Note that its tail usually determines whether or not the integral will be finite. We get
$$int_1^{infty} frac{log x}{x^2},mathrm{d} x=int_1^{X_a} frac{log x}{x^2},mathrm{d} x+int_{X_a}^{infty} frac{log x}{x^2},mathrm{d} xleqint_1^{X_a} frac{log x}{x^2},mathrm{d} x+int_{X_a}^{infty} frac{x^a}{x^2},mathrm{d} x.$$
Finally we say that both integrals are finite. The first one because we are integrating a continuous function on an interval of finite length. The second one because $a < 1$ as we concluded earlier.
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Thank you for your answer, nice approach!
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– Ryk
Dec 10 '18 at 9:58
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I like to also post an answer here to give a bit more intuition.
Let me first start off with saying that your proof is perfectly fine (although the typesetting might not be entirely optimal).
So, the first thing you should try to remember when you are solving this exercise is that your intuition should tell you that $log(x)$ diverges rather slowly to infinity. In fact, $x^a$, where $a>0$, diverges quicker to infinity, as you can see from evaluating the limit $log(x)/x^a$ for $x$ tending to infinity. To be more specific, we could conclude from this that for any $a>0$, we can find an $X_a>0$ such that for all $x>X_a$, we have that
$$ frac{log x}{x^2} leq frac{x^a}{x^2}. $$
In particular, we could choose $a=1/2$ but any will do.
The second thing you could do is trying to use this fact in this exercise. For example, we know that $$int_1^{infty} frac{x^a}{x^2},mathrm{d} x$$
is finite if $a<1$. So, this limits our choice for $a$ from $(0,infty)$ to $(0,1)$ but we still have enough choice here.
Now, combine these two facts to solve this exercise. So we pick an $0<a<1$ and we split up the integral in two parts: the first finite part and its tail. Note that its tail usually determines whether or not the integral will be finite. We get
$$int_1^{infty} frac{log x}{x^2},mathrm{d} x=int_1^{X_a} frac{log x}{x^2},mathrm{d} x+int_{X_a}^{infty} frac{log x}{x^2},mathrm{d} xleqint_1^{X_a} frac{log x}{x^2},mathrm{d} x+int_{X_a}^{infty} frac{x^a}{x^2},mathrm{d} x.$$
Finally we say that both integrals are finite. The first one because we are integrating a continuous function on an interval of finite length. The second one because $a < 1$ as we concluded earlier.
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I like to also post an answer here to give a bit more intuition.
Let me first start off with saying that your proof is perfectly fine (although the typesetting might not be entirely optimal).
So, the first thing you should try to remember when you are solving this exercise is that your intuition should tell you that $log(x)$ diverges rather slowly to infinity. In fact, $x^a$, where $a>0$, diverges quicker to infinity, as you can see from evaluating the limit $log(x)/x^a$ for $x$ tending to infinity. To be more specific, we could conclude from this that for any $a>0$, we can find an $X_a>0$ such that for all $x>X_a$, we have that
$$ frac{log x}{x^2} leq frac{x^a}{x^2}. $$
In particular, we could choose $a=1/2$ but any will do.
The second thing you could do is trying to use this fact in this exercise. For example, we know that $$int_1^{infty} frac{x^a}{x^2},mathrm{d} x$$
is finite if $a<1$. So, this limits our choice for $a$ from $(0,infty)$ to $(0,1)$ but we still have enough choice here.
Now, combine these two facts to solve this exercise. So we pick an $0<a<1$ and we split up the integral in two parts: the first finite part and its tail. Note that its tail usually determines whether or not the integral will be finite. We get
$$int_1^{infty} frac{log x}{x^2},mathrm{d} x=int_1^{X_a} frac{log x}{x^2},mathrm{d} x+int_{X_a}^{infty} frac{log x}{x^2},mathrm{d} xleqint_1^{X_a} frac{log x}{x^2},mathrm{d} x+int_{X_a}^{infty} frac{x^a}{x^2},mathrm{d} x.$$
Finally we say that both integrals are finite. The first one because we are integrating a continuous function on an interval of finite length. The second one because $a < 1$ as we concluded earlier.
answered Dec 10 '18 at 1:47
Stan TendijckStan Tendijck
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Thank you for your answer, nice approach!
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Thank you for your answer, nice approach!
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Thank you for your answer, nice approach!
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