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Suppose we have two fair dice and rolled them.



Let





  • $A$ be the event "the sum of the two dice is equal to $3$";


  • $B$ be the event "the sum of the two dice is equal to $7$";


  • $C$ be the event "at least one dice shows $1$".


How to calculate $P(A mid C)$?



In this case can we say that $A$ and $C$ are independent? Can we say that $B$ and $C$ are independent?










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    I don't see how $A cap C$ and $B cap C$ can be independent, since they're mutually exclusive and each has non-zero probability. Did you mean something else?
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    Dice is already plural. The singular is die. So it's one die, 2 dice, 3 dice...
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$begingroup$


Suppose we have two fair dice and rolled them.



Let





  • $A$ be the event "the sum of the two dice is equal to $3$";


  • $B$ be the event "the sum of the two dice is equal to $7$";


  • $C$ be the event "at least one dice shows $1$".


How to calculate $P(A mid C)$?



In this case can we say that $A$ and $C$ are independent? Can we say that $B$ and $C$ are independent?










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  • $begingroup$
    I don't see how $A cap C$ and $B cap C$ can be independent, since they're mutually exclusive and each has non-zero probability. Did you mean something else?
    $endgroup$
    – Brian Tung
    21 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Dice is already plural. The singular is die. So it's one die, 2 dice, 3 dice...
    $endgroup$
    – Davor
    18 hours ago














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$begingroup$


Suppose we have two fair dice and rolled them.



Let





  • $A$ be the event "the sum of the two dice is equal to $3$";


  • $B$ be the event "the sum of the two dice is equal to $7$";


  • $C$ be the event "at least one dice shows $1$".


How to calculate $P(A mid C)$?



In this case can we say that $A$ and $C$ are independent? Can we say that $B$ and $C$ are independent?










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Suppose we have two fair dice and rolled them.



Let





  • $A$ be the event "the sum of the two dice is equal to $3$";


  • $B$ be the event "the sum of the two dice is equal to $7$";


  • $C$ be the event "at least one dice shows $1$".


How to calculate $P(A mid C)$?



In this case can we say that $A$ and $C$ are independent? Can we say that $B$ and $C$ are independent?







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  • $begingroup$
    I don't see how $A cap C$ and $B cap C$ can be independent, since they're mutually exclusive and each has non-zero probability. Did you mean something else?
    $endgroup$
    – Brian Tung
    21 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Dice is already plural. The singular is die. So it's one die, 2 dice, 3 dice...
    $endgroup$
    – Davor
    18 hours ago


















  • $begingroup$
    I don't see how $A cap C$ and $B cap C$ can be independent, since they're mutually exclusive and each has non-zero probability. Did you mean something else?
    $endgroup$
    – Brian Tung
    21 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Dice is already plural. The singular is die. So it's one die, 2 dice, 3 dice...
    $endgroup$
    – Davor
    18 hours ago
















$begingroup$
I don't see how $A cap C$ and $B cap C$ can be independent, since they're mutually exclusive and each has non-zero probability. Did you mean something else?
$endgroup$
– Brian Tung
21 hours ago




$begingroup$
I don't see how $A cap C$ and $B cap C$ can be independent, since they're mutually exclusive and each has non-zero probability. Did you mean something else?
$endgroup$
– Brian Tung
21 hours ago












$begingroup$
Dice is already plural. The singular is die. So it's one die, 2 dice, 3 dice...
$endgroup$
– Davor
18 hours ago




$begingroup$
Dice is already plural. The singular is die. So it's one die, 2 dice, 3 dice...
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$P(C)$ is actually $frac{11}{36}$$11$ of the $36$ possible rolls show at least one 1 (don't forget to consider the double-1 case!). $P(Acap C)=frac2{36}$ since only 1-2 and 2-1 have at least one 1 and sum to $3$. Thus
$$P(A|C)=frac{P(Acap C)}{P(C)}=frac{2/36}{11/36}=frac2{11}$$






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    Thank you. Can I say that $P(B|C)=frac{2}{11}$?
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    22 hours ago












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    @AliJ Yes, since $P(Bcap C)=P(Acap C)$.
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If one of the dices shows $1$ then there are only two ways to get $3.$ If both the dices show $1$ then there is no chance of getting $3.$ So the required probability is $frac {2} {11}.$ Because when $C$ has already occurred then the reduced sample space has $11$ elements where at least one of the events is $1$ which are $${(1,1),(1,2),(1,3),(1,4),(1,5),(1,6),(2,1),(3,1),(4,1),(5,1),(6,1) }$$ and only two of them suit your purpose which are $${(1,2),(2,1) }.$$






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    You mean that $P(A|C)=frac{1}{18}$?
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    May you please help about $P(B|C)$?
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    22 hours ago










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    Same thing happens for $P(B mid C).$
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    – Dbchatto67
    22 hours ago










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    Can't we use the rule $P(A|C)=frac{P(A.C)}{P(A)}$
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    Try to think it on your own. If the event $C$ has already occured then in how many ways can the event $B$ occur?
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$P(C)$ is actually $frac{11}{36}$$11$ of the $36$ possible rolls show at least one 1 (don't forget to consider the double-1 case!). $P(Acap C)=frac2{36}$ since only 1-2 and 2-1 have at least one 1 and sum to $3$. Thus
$$P(A|C)=frac{P(Acap C)}{P(C)}=frac{2/36}{11/36}=frac2{11}$$






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    Thank you. Can I say that $P(B|C)=frac{2}{11}$?
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    @AliJ Yes, since $P(Bcap C)=P(Acap C)$.
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$begingroup$

$P(C)$ is actually $frac{11}{36}$$11$ of the $36$ possible rolls show at least one 1 (don't forget to consider the double-1 case!). $P(Acap C)=frac2{36}$ since only 1-2 and 2-1 have at least one 1 and sum to $3$. Thus
$$P(A|C)=frac{P(Acap C)}{P(C)}=frac{2/36}{11/36}=frac2{11}$$






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  • $begingroup$
    Thank you. Can I say that $P(B|C)=frac{2}{11}$?
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    @AliJ Yes, since $P(Bcap C)=P(Acap C)$.
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$begingroup$

$P(C)$ is actually $frac{11}{36}$$11$ of the $36$ possible rolls show at least one 1 (don't forget to consider the double-1 case!). $P(Acap C)=frac2{36}$ since only 1-2 and 2-1 have at least one 1 and sum to $3$. Thus
$$P(A|C)=frac{P(Acap C)}{P(C)}=frac{2/36}{11/36}=frac2{11}$$






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$P(C)$ is actually $frac{11}{36}$$11$ of the $36$ possible rolls show at least one 1 (don't forget to consider the double-1 case!). $P(Acap C)=frac2{36}$ since only 1-2 and 2-1 have at least one 1 and sum to $3$. Thus
$$P(A|C)=frac{P(Acap C)}{P(C)}=frac{2/36}{11/36}=frac2{11}$$







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  • $begingroup$
    Thank you. Can I say that $P(B|C)=frac{2}{11}$?
    $endgroup$
    – Ali J.
    22 hours ago












  • $begingroup$
    @AliJ Yes, since $P(Bcap C)=P(Acap C)$.
    $endgroup$
    – Parcly Taxel
    22 hours ago


















  • $begingroup$
    Thank you. Can I say that $P(B|C)=frac{2}{11}$?
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    – Ali J.
    22 hours ago












  • $begingroup$
    @AliJ Yes, since $P(Bcap C)=P(Acap C)$.
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    – Parcly Taxel
    22 hours ago
















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Thank you. Can I say that $P(B|C)=frac{2}{11}$?
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Thank you. Can I say that $P(B|C)=frac{2}{11}$?
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@AliJ Yes, since $P(Bcap C)=P(Acap C)$.
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@AliJ Yes, since $P(Bcap C)=P(Acap C)$.
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If one of the dices shows $1$ then there are only two ways to get $3.$ If both the dices show $1$ then there is no chance of getting $3.$ So the required probability is $frac {2} {11}.$ Because when $C$ has already occurred then the reduced sample space has $11$ elements where at least one of the events is $1$ which are $${(1,1),(1,2),(1,3),(1,4),(1,5),(1,6),(2,1),(3,1),(4,1),(5,1),(6,1) }$$ and only two of them suit your purpose which are $${(1,2),(2,1) }.$$






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    You mean that $P(A|C)=frac{1}{18}$?
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    – Ali J.
    22 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    May you please help about $P(B|C)$?
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    22 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Same thing happens for $P(B mid C).$
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    – Dbchatto67
    22 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Can't we use the rule $P(A|C)=frac{P(A.C)}{P(A)}$
    $endgroup$
    – Ali J.
    22 hours ago












  • $begingroup$
    Try to think it on your own. If the event $C$ has already occured then in how many ways can the event $B$ occur?
    $endgroup$
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    22 hours ago


















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$begingroup$

If one of the dices shows $1$ then there are only two ways to get $3.$ If both the dices show $1$ then there is no chance of getting $3.$ So the required probability is $frac {2} {11}.$ Because when $C$ has already occurred then the reduced sample space has $11$ elements where at least one of the events is $1$ which are $${(1,1),(1,2),(1,3),(1,4),(1,5),(1,6),(2,1),(3,1),(4,1),(5,1),(6,1) }$$ and only two of them suit your purpose which are $${(1,2),(2,1) }.$$






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    You mean that $P(A|C)=frac{1}{18}$?
    $endgroup$
    – Ali J.
    22 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    May you please help about $P(B|C)$?
    $endgroup$
    – Ali J.
    22 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Same thing happens for $P(B mid C).$
    $endgroup$
    – Dbchatto67
    22 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Can't we use the rule $P(A|C)=frac{P(A.C)}{P(A)}$
    $endgroup$
    – Ali J.
    22 hours ago












  • $begingroup$
    Try to think it on your own. If the event $C$ has already occured then in how many ways can the event $B$ occur?
    $endgroup$
    – Dbchatto67
    22 hours ago
















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$begingroup$

If one of the dices shows $1$ then there are only two ways to get $3.$ If both the dices show $1$ then there is no chance of getting $3.$ So the required probability is $frac {2} {11}.$ Because when $C$ has already occurred then the reduced sample space has $11$ elements where at least one of the events is $1$ which are $${(1,1),(1,2),(1,3),(1,4),(1,5),(1,6),(2,1),(3,1),(4,1),(5,1),(6,1) }$$ and only two of them suit your purpose which are $${(1,2),(2,1) }.$$






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If one of the dices shows $1$ then there are only two ways to get $3.$ If both the dices show $1$ then there is no chance of getting $3.$ So the required probability is $frac {2} {11}.$ Because when $C$ has already occurred then the reduced sample space has $11$ elements where at least one of the events is $1$ which are $${(1,1),(1,2),(1,3),(1,4),(1,5),(1,6),(2,1),(3,1),(4,1),(5,1),(6,1) }$$ and only two of them suit your purpose which are $${(1,2),(2,1) }.$$







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    You mean that $P(A|C)=frac{1}{18}$?
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    – Ali J.
    22 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    May you please help about $P(B|C)$?
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    – Ali J.
    22 hours ago










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    Same thing happens for $P(B mid C).$
    $endgroup$
    – Dbchatto67
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  • $begingroup$
    Can't we use the rule $P(A|C)=frac{P(A.C)}{P(A)}$
    $endgroup$
    – Ali J.
    22 hours ago












  • $begingroup$
    Try to think it on your own. If the event $C$ has already occured then in how many ways can the event $B$ occur?
    $endgroup$
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    22 hours ago




















  • $begingroup$
    You mean that $P(A|C)=frac{1}{18}$?
    $endgroup$
    – Ali J.
    22 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    May you please help about $P(B|C)$?
    $endgroup$
    – Ali J.
    22 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Same thing happens for $P(B mid C).$
    $endgroup$
    – Dbchatto67
    22 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Can't we use the rule $P(A|C)=frac{P(A.C)}{P(A)}$
    $endgroup$
    – Ali J.
    22 hours ago












  • $begingroup$
    Try to think it on your own. If the event $C$ has already occured then in how many ways can the event $B$ occur?
    $endgroup$
    – Dbchatto67
    22 hours ago


















$begingroup$
You mean that $P(A|C)=frac{1}{18}$?
$endgroup$
– Ali J.
22 hours ago




$begingroup$
You mean that $P(A|C)=frac{1}{18}$?
$endgroup$
– Ali J.
22 hours ago












$begingroup$
May you please help about $P(B|C)$?
$endgroup$
– Ali J.
22 hours ago




$begingroup$
May you please help about $P(B|C)$?
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– Ali J.
22 hours ago












$begingroup$
Same thing happens for $P(B mid C).$
$endgroup$
– Dbchatto67
22 hours ago




$begingroup$
Same thing happens for $P(B mid C).$
$endgroup$
– Dbchatto67
22 hours ago












$begingroup$
Can't we use the rule $P(A|C)=frac{P(A.C)}{P(A)}$
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$begingroup$
Can't we use the rule $P(A|C)=frac{P(A.C)}{P(A)}$
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– Ali J.
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$begingroup$
Try to think it on your own. If the event $C$ has already occured then in how many ways can the event $B$ occur?
$endgroup$
– Dbchatto67
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$begingroup$
Try to think it on your own. If the event $C$ has already occured then in how many ways can the event $B$ occur?
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