Angles of triangle $triangle XYZ$ do not depend on the position of point $P$ (proof needed)
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Let $ABCD$ be a fixed convex quadrilateral and $P$ be an arbitrary point. Let $S,T,U,V,K,L$ be the projections of $P$ on $AB,CD,AD,BC,AC,BD$ respectively. Let $X,Y,Z$ be the midpoints of $ST,UV,KL$. Is it true that the angles of triangle $triangle XYZ$ do not depend on the position of $P$?
I drew a figure on my computer and it seems that the angles of triangle $triangle XYZ$ do not change with the position of point P:
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Let $ABCD$ be a fixed convex quadrilateral and $P$ be an arbitrary point. Let $S,T,U,V,K,L$ be the projections of $P$ on $AB,CD,AD,BC,AC,BD$ respectively. Let $X,Y,Z$ be the midpoints of $ST,UV,KL$. Is it true that the angles of triangle $triangle XYZ$ do not depend on the position of $P$?
I drew a figure on my computer and it seems that the angles of triangle $triangle XYZ$ do not change with the position of point P:
(my original research)
geometry euclidean-geometry triangle quadrilateral
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Rather than upvote, the question should be closed for lack of ideas.
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@ParclyTaxel I really don't understand why should this problem be closed. Watson could have provided a few pages of nonsense just to "illustrate" some "ideas" that he had and prevent closing votes or downvotes. In some cases, it's fair to say: "Folks, I think this problem is interesting and I really don;t have a clue how to approach it because it's too difficult". And this problem is not homework.
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(+1) To my surprise, the statement is actually true. I reduce the problem to one about vanishing of some complicated determinant and using a CAS, the determinant does simplify to zero.
– achille hui
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@watson I mean, if this is your own theorem, it makes it even more interesting. The statement definitely true and this problem should be reopened. I will provide a better picture for you.
– Oldboy
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@watson I have provided better looking pictures. The statement is definitely true, no doubt about it. And. yes, some good people actually helped to reopen the problem. I am happy that you are geeting the attention that you deserve.
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Let $ABCD$ be a fixed convex quadrilateral and $P$ be an arbitrary point. Let $S,T,U,V,K,L$ be the projections of $P$ on $AB,CD,AD,BC,AC,BD$ respectively. Let $X,Y,Z$ be the midpoints of $ST,UV,KL$. Is it true that the angles of triangle $triangle XYZ$ do not depend on the position of $P$?
I drew a figure on my computer and it seems that the angles of triangle $triangle XYZ$ do not change with the position of point P:
(my original research)
geometry euclidean-geometry triangle quadrilateral
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Let $ABCD$ be a fixed convex quadrilateral and $P$ be an arbitrary point. Let $S,T,U,V,K,L$ be the projections of $P$ on $AB,CD,AD,BC,AC,BD$ respectively. Let $X,Y,Z$ be the midpoints of $ST,UV,KL$. Is it true that the angles of triangle $triangle XYZ$ do not depend on the position of $P$?
I drew a figure on my computer and it seems that the angles of triangle $triangle XYZ$ do not change with the position of point P:
(my original research)
geometry euclidean-geometry triangle quadrilateral
geometry euclidean-geometry triangle quadrilateral
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Rather than upvote, the question should be closed for lack of ideas.
– Parcly Taxel
Nov 12 at 7:01
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@ParclyTaxel I really don't understand why should this problem be closed. Watson could have provided a few pages of nonsense just to "illustrate" some "ideas" that he had and prevent closing votes or downvotes. In some cases, it's fair to say: "Folks, I think this problem is interesting and I really don;t have a clue how to approach it because it's too difficult". And this problem is not homework.
– Oldboy
Nov 12 at 12:22
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(+1) To my surprise, the statement is actually true. I reduce the problem to one about vanishing of some complicated determinant and using a CAS, the determinant does simplify to zero.
– achille hui
2 days ago
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@watson I mean, if this is your own theorem, it makes it even more interesting. The statement definitely true and this problem should be reopened. I will provide a better picture for you.
– Oldboy
2 days ago
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@watson I have provided better looking pictures. The statement is definitely true, no doubt about it. And. yes, some good people actually helped to reopen the problem. I am happy that you are geeting the attention that you deserve.
– Oldboy
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Rather than upvote, the question should be closed for lack of ideas.
– Parcly Taxel
Nov 12 at 7:01
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@ParclyTaxel I really don't understand why should this problem be closed. Watson could have provided a few pages of nonsense just to "illustrate" some "ideas" that he had and prevent closing votes or downvotes. In some cases, it's fair to say: "Folks, I think this problem is interesting and I really don;t have a clue how to approach it because it's too difficult". And this problem is not homework.
– Oldboy
Nov 12 at 12:22
4
(+1) To my surprise, the statement is actually true. I reduce the problem to one about vanishing of some complicated determinant and using a CAS, the determinant does simplify to zero.
– achille hui
2 days ago
2
@watson I mean, if this is your own theorem, it makes it even more interesting. The statement definitely true and this problem should be reopened. I will provide a better picture for you.
– Oldboy
2 days ago
3
@watson I have provided better looking pictures. The statement is definitely true, no doubt about it. And. yes, some good people actually helped to reopen the problem. I am happy that you are geeting the attention that you deserve.
– Oldboy
2 days ago
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Rather than upvote, the question should be closed for lack of ideas.
– Parcly Taxel
Nov 12 at 7:01
Rather than upvote, the question should be closed for lack of ideas.
– Parcly Taxel
Nov 12 at 7:01
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@ParclyTaxel I really don't understand why should this problem be closed. Watson could have provided a few pages of nonsense just to "illustrate" some "ideas" that he had and prevent closing votes or downvotes. In some cases, it's fair to say: "Folks, I think this problem is interesting and I really don;t have a clue how to approach it because it's too difficult". And this problem is not homework.
– Oldboy
Nov 12 at 12:22
@ParclyTaxel I really don't understand why should this problem be closed. Watson could have provided a few pages of nonsense just to "illustrate" some "ideas" that he had and prevent closing votes or downvotes. In some cases, it's fair to say: "Folks, I think this problem is interesting and I really don;t have a clue how to approach it because it's too difficult". And this problem is not homework.
– Oldboy
Nov 12 at 12:22
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(+1) To my surprise, the statement is actually true. I reduce the problem to one about vanishing of some complicated determinant and using a CAS, the determinant does simplify to zero.
– achille hui
2 days ago
(+1) To my surprise, the statement is actually true. I reduce the problem to one about vanishing of some complicated determinant and using a CAS, the determinant does simplify to zero.
– achille hui
2 days ago
2
2
@watson I mean, if this is your own theorem, it makes it even more interesting. The statement definitely true and this problem should be reopened. I will provide a better picture for you.
– Oldboy
2 days ago
@watson I mean, if this is your own theorem, it makes it even more interesting. The statement definitely true and this problem should be reopened. I will provide a better picture for you.
– Oldboy
2 days ago
3
3
@watson I have provided better looking pictures. The statement is definitely true, no doubt about it. And. yes, some good people actually helped to reopen the problem. I am happy that you are geeting the attention that you deserve.
– Oldboy
2 days ago
@watson I have provided better looking pictures. The statement is definitely true, no doubt about it. And. yes, some good people actually helped to reopen the problem. I am happy that you are geeting the attention that you deserve.
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Here is the proof using Mathematica and simple analytical geometry. In theory, you can do all this by hand, there is nothing special in it. But in real life, you need a computer.
Math involved in the proof is elementary and I did not have to use trigonometry until the very last step.
WLOG, we can assume that $A(0,0)$, $B(0, 1)$, $C(x_C,y_C)$, $D(x_D,y_D)$, $P(x_P,y_P)$:
a = {0, 0}; b = {0, 1}; c = {xc, yc}; d = {xd, yd}; p = {xp, yp};
We need just two functions. The first one calculates dot product of two vectors:
dotProduct[a_, b_] := Sum[a[[i]] b[[i]], {i, 1, Length[a]}];
The second one is used to find the coordinates of projection of point P to line AB:
projection[a_, b_, p_] := Module[
{c, xc, yc, s, k},
c = {xc, yc};
s = Solve[{c - a == k (b - a),
dotProduct[b - a, c - p] == 0}, {xc, yc, k}];
Return[c /. s[[1]]];
];
That's all that we need. The rest is simple and completely straightforward. We are going to "read" the picture and calculate coordinates of all the points.
First, let's calculate coordinates of points $S,T,U,V,K,L:$
s = projection[a, b, p];
t = projection[c, d, p];
u = projection[a, d, p];
v = projection[b, c, p];
k = projection[a, c, p];
l = projection[b, d, p];
Coordinates of points $X,Y,Z$ are:
x = (s + t)/2;
y = (u + v)/2;
z = (k + l)/2;
We need two vectors: $vec{XY},vec{XZ}$:
xy = y - x;
xz = z - x;
And, finally, we are ready to calculate the angle $YXZ$ from the formula:
$cos^2angle YXZ=frac{(vec{XY} cdot vec{XZ})^2}{(vec{XY} cdot vec{XY})(vec{XZ} cdot vec{XZ})}$
...or in Mathematica:
cosXsquared = Together[dotProduct[xy, xz]^2/(dotProd[xy, xy] dotProduct[xz, xz])]
And the final result is:
$$cos^2angle YXZ=\frac{left({x_C}^2 {x_D}^2+{x_C}^2 {y_D}^2-{x_C}^2 {y_D}+{x_C} {x_D}+{x_D}^2 {y_C}^2-{x_D}^2 {y_C}+{y_C}^2 {y_D}^2-{y_C}^2 {y_D}-{y_C} {y_D}^2+{y_C} {y_D}right)^2}{left({x_C}^2+{y_C}^2right) left({x_C}^2+{y_C}^2-2 {y_C}+1right) left({x_D}^2+{y_D}^2right) left({x_D}^2+{y_D}^2-2 {y_D}+1right)}$$
Depsite the fact that $x_P,y_P$ can be easily observed in all intermediate results, the coordinates of point $P$ have magically disappeared from the final one.
In the same way you can prove that the other two angles of triangle $triangle XYZ$ are independent from the location of point $P$.
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Hint: One way to solution is with a use of a following lemma:
Lemma: Let the points $M,N,T$ be fixed. Let $P$ be on a fixed (red) line $ell$ and let $X$ and $Y$ be an ortogonal projections of $P$ on line $MT$ and $TN$. Then the map $Xlongmapsto Y$ is a spiral similarity with a center at point $F$ which is an intersection point of circle $PXY$ with $ell$.
Proof: Since $angle PFT = angle PYT =90^{circ}$ we see that $F$ is a fixed point.
Now since $$angle YXF = angle YTF =angle NTF = {rm fixed ;; angle}$$
and $$angle YFX = angle YTX =angle NTM = {rm fixed ;; angle}$$
the triangle $XYF$ has the same angles for all $P$ so the map $Xlongmapsto Y$ is a spiral similarity with rotational angle $angle MTN$ and center at $F$.
Lemma 2: Say $Z$ is a midpoint of $XY$ from the previous lemma. Then the map $Xlongmapsto Z $ is also a spiral similarity (different one) with the same center.
Idea how to finish: Clearly we have a spiral similarity $S_1$ which takes $Xmapsto Y$ and a spiral similarity $S_2$ which takes $Ymapsto Z$.
So we have $$Xstackrel{S_1}{longmapsto}Y stackrel{S_2}{longmapsto}Z$$
Now take another $X',Y',Z'$:
$$X'stackrel{S_1}{longmapsto}Y' stackrel{S_2}{longmapsto}Z'$$
I would like to show that there is a spiral similarity which takes $X$ to $X'$, $Y$ to $Y'$ and $Z$ to $Z'$ and this would prove the statement.
Clearly there is a spiral similarity that takes $X$ to $X'$ and $Y$ to $Y'$ induced by $S_1$, but I don't know how to show that it takes also $Z$ to $Z'$.
Actualy, this last claim is not quite true. I know that if $S_1$ and $S_2$ have the same center then we are done, and this is the thing I'm trying to figure out.
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Thank you. From these lemmas it can be seen that Z lies on a fixed line. But how can we progress from here?
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I' m still thinking how to finish this. I have an idea but not sure yet.
– greedoid
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Can you write your ideas here in the comment ? I will understand if you want to keep it secret.
– watson
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There is no secret. I just don't know how to finish it. I will edit my post.
– greedoid
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About the Idea, are $X,Y,Z$ the points of your lemma, or the midpoints from my problem? Moreover, the spiral similarities have the same centers.
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Following is an algebraic proof of the statement. To make the algebra manageable. We will choose a coordinate system where $A$ is the origin and identify the euclidean plane with the complex plane.
Let $p, z_1,z_2,z_3, u_1, v_1, w_1, w_2, w_3$ be the complex numbers corresponds to $P,
B,C,D,S,T,X,Z,Y$ respectively.
Any line $ell subset mathbb{C}$ can be represented by a pair of complex number, a point $q in ell$ and a $t$ for its direction. Points on $ell$ has the form $q + lambda t$ for some real $lambda$. In order for this point to be the projection of $p$ on $ell$, we need
$$Re( ( q + lambda t - p )bar{t}) = 0quadimpliesquadlambda = frac{Re((p - q)bar{t})}{tbar{t}}
$$
The projection of $p$ on line $ell$, let call it $pi_ell(p)$, will be given by the formula
$$pi_{ell}(p) = q + frac{(p-q)bar{t} + (bar{p}-bar{q})t}{2bar{t}} = frac{q+p}{2} +frac12(bar{p} - bar{q})frac{t}{bar{t}}tag{*1a}$$
In the special case that $q = 0$, this reduces to
$$pi_{ell}(p) = frac{p}{2} + frac12bar{p}frac{t}{bar{t}}tag{*1b}$$
Apply $(*1b)$ and $(*1a)$ to $S$ and $T$, we get
$$u_1 = frac{p}{2} + frac12bar{p}frac{z_1}{bar{z}_1}
quadtext{ and }quad
v_1 = frac{p + z_2}{2} + frac12(bar{p} - bar{z}_2)frac{z_2 - z_3}{bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3}
$$
Combine them and simplify, we get
$$
w_1 = frac{u_1+v_1}{2} =
frac{p}{2} + frac14bar{p}
underbrace{left(frac{z_1}{bar{z}_1} + frac{z_2-z_3}{bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3}right)}_{A_1}
+
frac14
underbrace{left(frac{z_3bar{z}_2 - z_2bar{z}_3}{bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3}right)}_{B_1}$$
Let's call the two coefficients in parentheses as $A_1$ and $B_1$. By similar argument,
we can derive corresponding formula for $w_2$ and $w_3$. In general, we have
$$w_i =
frac{p}{2} + frac14bar{p} A_i + frac14 B_i
quadtext{ where }quad
begin{cases}
displaystyle;A_i = frac{z_i}{bar{z}_i} + frac{z_j-z_k}{bar{z}_j - bar{z}_k}\
displaystyle;B_i = frac{z_kbar{z}_j - z_jbar{z}_k}{bar{z}_j-bar{z}_k}
end{cases}
$$
for $(i,j,k)$ running over cyclic permutations of $(1,2,3)$.
Given any two triangle $M$, $N$ with vertices $m_1,m_2,m_3$ and $n_1,n_2,n_3$. They are similar (with matching angles) if they have the same cross-ratio
$$frac{m_3-m_1}{m_2-m_1} = frac{n_3-n_1}{n_2 - n_1}$$
In order for the angles of triangle $XYZ$ to be independent of $P$, we need the cross ratio
$$frac{w_3 - w_1}{w_2-w_1}
= frac{(A_3 - A_1)bar{p} + (B_3 - B_1)}{(A_2-A_1)bar{p} + (B_2-B_1)}$$
to be independent of $p$. This is equivalent to
$$frac{A_3-A_1}{A_2-A_1} = frac{B_3-B_1}{B_2-B_1}
iff left|begin{matrix}A_3 - A_1 & B_3 - B_1 \ A_2 - A_1 & B_2 - B_1end{matrix}right| = 0$$
At the end, it comes down whether following complicated determinant evaluates to zero
$$
left|largebegin{matrix}
1 & frac{z_1}{bar{z}_1} + frac{z_2-z_3}{bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3}
& frac{z_3bar{z}_2 - z_2bar{z}_3}{bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3}\
1 & frac{z_2}{bar{z}_2} + frac{z_3-z_1}{bar{z}_3 - bar{z}_1}
& frac{z_1bar{z}_3 - z_3bar{z}_1}{bar{z}_3 - bar{z}_1} \
1 & frac{z_3}{bar{z}_3} + frac{z_1-z_2}{bar{z}_1 - bar{z}_2}
& frac{z_2bar{z}_1 - z_1bar{z}_2}{bar{z}_1 - bar{z}_2} \
end{matrix}right|
stackrel{?}{=} 0
$$
If one multiply
first row by $bar{z}_1(bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3)$,
second row by $bar{z}_2(bar{z}_3 - bar{z}_1)$
third row by $bar{z}_3(bar{z}_1 - bar{z}_2)$
and sum them together, one obtain an zero row!
This means above determinant vanishes and the cross-ratio $frac{w_3 - w_1}{w_2-w_1}$ is independent of $p$.
This verify the angles in $triangle XYZ$ doesn't depend on location of $P$.
With help of an CAS, one also obtain
$$frac{w_3-w_1}{w_2-w_1} = frac{A_3-A_1}{A_2-A_1} = frac{B_3-B_1}{B_2-B1}
= frac{(bar{z}_3 - bar{z}_1)bar{z}_2}{(bar{z}_2-bar{z}_1)bar{z}_3}$$
The last expression is complex conjugate of a cross-ratio of the 4 numbers $(0,z_1,z_2,z_3)$. With this, we can deduce the angles of $triangle XYZ$
from the angles among the sides/diagonals of quadrilateral $ABCD$.
As an example, in the configuration below, we have
$$angle ZXY (approx 13.97^circ) = angle CAD (approx 46.14^circ) - angle CBD (approx 32.17^circ)$$
Please note that when quadrilateral $ABCD$ is cyclic, $angle CAD = angle CBD$. In such cases, triangle $XYZ$ degenerate into a line segment (as first pointed out by @g.kov in comment).
I hope this can inspire someone to discover a more geometric proof of this (in particular, above relations among the angles).
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Here is the proof using Mathematica and simple analytical geometry. In theory, you can do all this by hand, there is nothing special in it. But in real life, you need a computer.
Math involved in the proof is elementary and I did not have to use trigonometry until the very last step.
WLOG, we can assume that $A(0,0)$, $B(0, 1)$, $C(x_C,y_C)$, $D(x_D,y_D)$, $P(x_P,y_P)$:
a = {0, 0}; b = {0, 1}; c = {xc, yc}; d = {xd, yd}; p = {xp, yp};
We need just two functions. The first one calculates dot product of two vectors:
dotProduct[a_, b_] := Sum[a[[i]] b[[i]], {i, 1, Length[a]}];
The second one is used to find the coordinates of projection of point P to line AB:
projection[a_, b_, p_] := Module[
{c, xc, yc, s, k},
c = {xc, yc};
s = Solve[{c - a == k (b - a),
dotProduct[b - a, c - p] == 0}, {xc, yc, k}];
Return[c /. s[[1]]];
];
That's all that we need. The rest is simple and completely straightforward. We are going to "read" the picture and calculate coordinates of all the points.
First, let's calculate coordinates of points $S,T,U,V,K,L:$
s = projection[a, b, p];
t = projection[c, d, p];
u = projection[a, d, p];
v = projection[b, c, p];
k = projection[a, c, p];
l = projection[b, d, p];
Coordinates of points $X,Y,Z$ are:
x = (s + t)/2;
y = (u + v)/2;
z = (k + l)/2;
We need two vectors: $vec{XY},vec{XZ}$:
xy = y - x;
xz = z - x;
And, finally, we are ready to calculate the angle $YXZ$ from the formula:
$cos^2angle YXZ=frac{(vec{XY} cdot vec{XZ})^2}{(vec{XY} cdot vec{XY})(vec{XZ} cdot vec{XZ})}$
...or in Mathematica:
cosXsquared = Together[dotProduct[xy, xz]^2/(dotProd[xy, xy] dotProduct[xz, xz])]
And the final result is:
$$cos^2angle YXZ=\frac{left({x_C}^2 {x_D}^2+{x_C}^2 {y_D}^2-{x_C}^2 {y_D}+{x_C} {x_D}+{x_D}^2 {y_C}^2-{x_D}^2 {y_C}+{y_C}^2 {y_D}^2-{y_C}^2 {y_D}-{y_C} {y_D}^2+{y_C} {y_D}right)^2}{left({x_C}^2+{y_C}^2right) left({x_C}^2+{y_C}^2-2 {y_C}+1right) left({x_D}^2+{y_D}^2right) left({x_D}^2+{y_D}^2-2 {y_D}+1right)}$$
Depsite the fact that $x_P,y_P$ can be easily observed in all intermediate results, the coordinates of point $P$ have magically disappeared from the final one.
In the same way you can prove that the other two angles of triangle $triangle XYZ$ are independent from the location of point $P$.
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Here is the proof using Mathematica and simple analytical geometry. In theory, you can do all this by hand, there is nothing special in it. But in real life, you need a computer.
Math involved in the proof is elementary and I did not have to use trigonometry until the very last step.
WLOG, we can assume that $A(0,0)$, $B(0, 1)$, $C(x_C,y_C)$, $D(x_D,y_D)$, $P(x_P,y_P)$:
a = {0, 0}; b = {0, 1}; c = {xc, yc}; d = {xd, yd}; p = {xp, yp};
We need just two functions. The first one calculates dot product of two vectors:
dotProduct[a_, b_] := Sum[a[[i]] b[[i]], {i, 1, Length[a]}];
The second one is used to find the coordinates of projection of point P to line AB:
projection[a_, b_, p_] := Module[
{c, xc, yc, s, k},
c = {xc, yc};
s = Solve[{c - a == k (b - a),
dotProduct[b - a, c - p] == 0}, {xc, yc, k}];
Return[c /. s[[1]]];
];
That's all that we need. The rest is simple and completely straightforward. We are going to "read" the picture and calculate coordinates of all the points.
First, let's calculate coordinates of points $S,T,U,V,K,L:$
s = projection[a, b, p];
t = projection[c, d, p];
u = projection[a, d, p];
v = projection[b, c, p];
k = projection[a, c, p];
l = projection[b, d, p];
Coordinates of points $X,Y,Z$ are:
x = (s + t)/2;
y = (u + v)/2;
z = (k + l)/2;
We need two vectors: $vec{XY},vec{XZ}$:
xy = y - x;
xz = z - x;
And, finally, we are ready to calculate the angle $YXZ$ from the formula:
$cos^2angle YXZ=frac{(vec{XY} cdot vec{XZ})^2}{(vec{XY} cdot vec{XY})(vec{XZ} cdot vec{XZ})}$
...or in Mathematica:
cosXsquared = Together[dotProduct[xy, xz]^2/(dotProd[xy, xy] dotProduct[xz, xz])]
And the final result is:
$$cos^2angle YXZ=\frac{left({x_C}^2 {x_D}^2+{x_C}^2 {y_D}^2-{x_C}^2 {y_D}+{x_C} {x_D}+{x_D}^2 {y_C}^2-{x_D}^2 {y_C}+{y_C}^2 {y_D}^2-{y_C}^2 {y_D}-{y_C} {y_D}^2+{y_C} {y_D}right)^2}{left({x_C}^2+{y_C}^2right) left({x_C}^2+{y_C}^2-2 {y_C}+1right) left({x_D}^2+{y_D}^2right) left({x_D}^2+{y_D}^2-2 {y_D}+1right)}$$
Depsite the fact that $x_P,y_P$ can be easily observed in all intermediate results, the coordinates of point $P$ have magically disappeared from the final one.
In the same way you can prove that the other two angles of triangle $triangle XYZ$ are independent from the location of point $P$.
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Here is the proof using Mathematica and simple analytical geometry. In theory, you can do all this by hand, there is nothing special in it. But in real life, you need a computer.
Math involved in the proof is elementary and I did not have to use trigonometry until the very last step.
WLOG, we can assume that $A(0,0)$, $B(0, 1)$, $C(x_C,y_C)$, $D(x_D,y_D)$, $P(x_P,y_P)$:
a = {0, 0}; b = {0, 1}; c = {xc, yc}; d = {xd, yd}; p = {xp, yp};
We need just two functions. The first one calculates dot product of two vectors:
dotProduct[a_, b_] := Sum[a[[i]] b[[i]], {i, 1, Length[a]}];
The second one is used to find the coordinates of projection of point P to line AB:
projection[a_, b_, p_] := Module[
{c, xc, yc, s, k},
c = {xc, yc};
s = Solve[{c - a == k (b - a),
dotProduct[b - a, c - p] == 0}, {xc, yc, k}];
Return[c /. s[[1]]];
];
That's all that we need. The rest is simple and completely straightforward. We are going to "read" the picture and calculate coordinates of all the points.
First, let's calculate coordinates of points $S,T,U,V,K,L:$
s = projection[a, b, p];
t = projection[c, d, p];
u = projection[a, d, p];
v = projection[b, c, p];
k = projection[a, c, p];
l = projection[b, d, p];
Coordinates of points $X,Y,Z$ are:
x = (s + t)/2;
y = (u + v)/2;
z = (k + l)/2;
We need two vectors: $vec{XY},vec{XZ}$:
xy = y - x;
xz = z - x;
And, finally, we are ready to calculate the angle $YXZ$ from the formula:
$cos^2angle YXZ=frac{(vec{XY} cdot vec{XZ})^2}{(vec{XY} cdot vec{XY})(vec{XZ} cdot vec{XZ})}$
...or in Mathematica:
cosXsquared = Together[dotProduct[xy, xz]^2/(dotProd[xy, xy] dotProduct[xz, xz])]
And the final result is:
$$cos^2angle YXZ=\frac{left({x_C}^2 {x_D}^2+{x_C}^2 {y_D}^2-{x_C}^2 {y_D}+{x_C} {x_D}+{x_D}^2 {y_C}^2-{x_D}^2 {y_C}+{y_C}^2 {y_D}^2-{y_C}^2 {y_D}-{y_C} {y_D}^2+{y_C} {y_D}right)^2}{left({x_C}^2+{y_C}^2right) left({x_C}^2+{y_C}^2-2 {y_C}+1right) left({x_D}^2+{y_D}^2right) left({x_D}^2+{y_D}^2-2 {y_D}+1right)}$$
Depsite the fact that $x_P,y_P$ can be easily observed in all intermediate results, the coordinates of point $P$ have magically disappeared from the final one.
In the same way you can prove that the other two angles of triangle $triangle XYZ$ are independent from the location of point $P$.
Here is the proof using Mathematica and simple analytical geometry. In theory, you can do all this by hand, there is nothing special in it. But in real life, you need a computer.
Math involved in the proof is elementary and I did not have to use trigonometry until the very last step.
WLOG, we can assume that $A(0,0)$, $B(0, 1)$, $C(x_C,y_C)$, $D(x_D,y_D)$, $P(x_P,y_P)$:
a = {0, 0}; b = {0, 1}; c = {xc, yc}; d = {xd, yd}; p = {xp, yp};
We need just two functions. The first one calculates dot product of two vectors:
dotProduct[a_, b_] := Sum[a[[i]] b[[i]], {i, 1, Length[a]}];
The second one is used to find the coordinates of projection of point P to line AB:
projection[a_, b_, p_] := Module[
{c, xc, yc, s, k},
c = {xc, yc};
s = Solve[{c - a == k (b - a),
dotProduct[b - a, c - p] == 0}, {xc, yc, k}];
Return[c /. s[[1]]];
];
That's all that we need. The rest is simple and completely straightforward. We are going to "read" the picture and calculate coordinates of all the points.
First, let's calculate coordinates of points $S,T,U,V,K,L:$
s = projection[a, b, p];
t = projection[c, d, p];
u = projection[a, d, p];
v = projection[b, c, p];
k = projection[a, c, p];
l = projection[b, d, p];
Coordinates of points $X,Y,Z$ are:
x = (s + t)/2;
y = (u + v)/2;
z = (k + l)/2;
We need two vectors: $vec{XY},vec{XZ}$:
xy = y - x;
xz = z - x;
And, finally, we are ready to calculate the angle $YXZ$ from the formula:
$cos^2angle YXZ=frac{(vec{XY} cdot vec{XZ})^2}{(vec{XY} cdot vec{XY})(vec{XZ} cdot vec{XZ})}$
...or in Mathematica:
cosXsquared = Together[dotProduct[xy, xz]^2/(dotProd[xy, xy] dotProduct[xz, xz])]
And the final result is:
$$cos^2angle YXZ=\frac{left({x_C}^2 {x_D}^2+{x_C}^2 {y_D}^2-{x_C}^2 {y_D}+{x_C} {x_D}+{x_D}^2 {y_C}^2-{x_D}^2 {y_C}+{y_C}^2 {y_D}^2-{y_C}^2 {y_D}-{y_C} {y_D}^2+{y_C} {y_D}right)^2}{left({x_C}^2+{y_C}^2right) left({x_C}^2+{y_C}^2-2 {y_C}+1right) left({x_D}^2+{y_D}^2right) left({x_D}^2+{y_D}^2-2 {y_D}+1right)}$$
Depsite the fact that $x_P,y_P$ can be easily observed in all intermediate results, the coordinates of point $P$ have magically disappeared from the final one.
In the same way you can prove that the other two angles of triangle $triangle XYZ$ are independent from the location of point $P$.
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Hint: One way to solution is with a use of a following lemma:
Lemma: Let the points $M,N,T$ be fixed. Let $P$ be on a fixed (red) line $ell$ and let $X$ and $Y$ be an ortogonal projections of $P$ on line $MT$ and $TN$. Then the map $Xlongmapsto Y$ is a spiral similarity with a center at point $F$ which is an intersection point of circle $PXY$ with $ell$.
Proof: Since $angle PFT = angle PYT =90^{circ}$ we see that $F$ is a fixed point.
Now since $$angle YXF = angle YTF =angle NTF = {rm fixed ;; angle}$$
and $$angle YFX = angle YTX =angle NTM = {rm fixed ;; angle}$$
the triangle $XYF$ has the same angles for all $P$ so the map $Xlongmapsto Y$ is a spiral similarity with rotational angle $angle MTN$ and center at $F$.
Lemma 2: Say $Z$ is a midpoint of $XY$ from the previous lemma. Then the map $Xlongmapsto Z $ is also a spiral similarity (different one) with the same center.
Idea how to finish: Clearly we have a spiral similarity $S_1$ which takes $Xmapsto Y$ and a spiral similarity $S_2$ which takes $Ymapsto Z$.
So we have $$Xstackrel{S_1}{longmapsto}Y stackrel{S_2}{longmapsto}Z$$
Now take another $X',Y',Z'$:
$$X'stackrel{S_1}{longmapsto}Y' stackrel{S_2}{longmapsto}Z'$$
I would like to show that there is a spiral similarity which takes $X$ to $X'$, $Y$ to $Y'$ and $Z$ to $Z'$ and this would prove the statement.
Clearly there is a spiral similarity that takes $X$ to $X'$ and $Y$ to $Y'$ induced by $S_1$, but I don't know how to show that it takes also $Z$ to $Z'$.
Actualy, this last claim is not quite true. I know that if $S_1$ and $S_2$ have the same center then we are done, and this is the thing I'm trying to figure out.
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Thank you. From these lemmas it can be seen that Z lies on a fixed line. But how can we progress from here?
– watson
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I' m still thinking how to finish this. I have an idea but not sure yet.
– greedoid
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Can you write your ideas here in the comment ? I will understand if you want to keep it secret.
– watson
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There is no secret. I just don't know how to finish it. I will edit my post.
– greedoid
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About the Idea, are $X,Y,Z$ the points of your lemma, or the midpoints from my problem? Moreover, the spiral similarities have the same centers.
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Hint: One way to solution is with a use of a following lemma:
Lemma: Let the points $M,N,T$ be fixed. Let $P$ be on a fixed (red) line $ell$ and let $X$ and $Y$ be an ortogonal projections of $P$ on line $MT$ and $TN$. Then the map $Xlongmapsto Y$ is a spiral similarity with a center at point $F$ which is an intersection point of circle $PXY$ with $ell$.
Proof: Since $angle PFT = angle PYT =90^{circ}$ we see that $F$ is a fixed point.
Now since $$angle YXF = angle YTF =angle NTF = {rm fixed ;; angle}$$
and $$angle YFX = angle YTX =angle NTM = {rm fixed ;; angle}$$
the triangle $XYF$ has the same angles for all $P$ so the map $Xlongmapsto Y$ is a spiral similarity with rotational angle $angle MTN$ and center at $F$.
Lemma 2: Say $Z$ is a midpoint of $XY$ from the previous lemma. Then the map $Xlongmapsto Z $ is also a spiral similarity (different one) with the same center.
Idea how to finish: Clearly we have a spiral similarity $S_1$ which takes $Xmapsto Y$ and a spiral similarity $S_2$ which takes $Ymapsto Z$.
So we have $$Xstackrel{S_1}{longmapsto}Y stackrel{S_2}{longmapsto}Z$$
Now take another $X',Y',Z'$:
$$X'stackrel{S_1}{longmapsto}Y' stackrel{S_2}{longmapsto}Z'$$
I would like to show that there is a spiral similarity which takes $X$ to $X'$, $Y$ to $Y'$ and $Z$ to $Z'$ and this would prove the statement.
Clearly there is a spiral similarity that takes $X$ to $X'$ and $Y$ to $Y'$ induced by $S_1$, but I don't know how to show that it takes also $Z$ to $Z'$.
Actualy, this last claim is not quite true. I know that if $S_1$ and $S_2$ have the same center then we are done, and this is the thing I'm trying to figure out.
1
Thank you. From these lemmas it can be seen that Z lies on a fixed line. But how can we progress from here?
– watson
yesterday
1
I' m still thinking how to finish this. I have an idea but not sure yet.
– greedoid
yesterday
1
Can you write your ideas here in the comment ? I will understand if you want to keep it secret.
– watson
yesterday
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There is no secret. I just don't know how to finish it. I will edit my post.
– greedoid
yesterday
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About the Idea, are $X,Y,Z$ the points of your lemma, or the midpoints from my problem? Moreover, the spiral similarities have the same centers.
– watson
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Hint: One way to solution is with a use of a following lemma:
Lemma: Let the points $M,N,T$ be fixed. Let $P$ be on a fixed (red) line $ell$ and let $X$ and $Y$ be an ortogonal projections of $P$ on line $MT$ and $TN$. Then the map $Xlongmapsto Y$ is a spiral similarity with a center at point $F$ which is an intersection point of circle $PXY$ with $ell$.
Proof: Since $angle PFT = angle PYT =90^{circ}$ we see that $F$ is a fixed point.
Now since $$angle YXF = angle YTF =angle NTF = {rm fixed ;; angle}$$
and $$angle YFX = angle YTX =angle NTM = {rm fixed ;; angle}$$
the triangle $XYF$ has the same angles for all $P$ so the map $Xlongmapsto Y$ is a spiral similarity with rotational angle $angle MTN$ and center at $F$.
Lemma 2: Say $Z$ is a midpoint of $XY$ from the previous lemma. Then the map $Xlongmapsto Z $ is also a spiral similarity (different one) with the same center.
Idea how to finish: Clearly we have a spiral similarity $S_1$ which takes $Xmapsto Y$ and a spiral similarity $S_2$ which takes $Ymapsto Z$.
So we have $$Xstackrel{S_1}{longmapsto}Y stackrel{S_2}{longmapsto}Z$$
Now take another $X',Y',Z'$:
$$X'stackrel{S_1}{longmapsto}Y' stackrel{S_2}{longmapsto}Z'$$
I would like to show that there is a spiral similarity which takes $X$ to $X'$, $Y$ to $Y'$ and $Z$ to $Z'$ and this would prove the statement.
Clearly there is a spiral similarity that takes $X$ to $X'$ and $Y$ to $Y'$ induced by $S_1$, but I don't know how to show that it takes also $Z$ to $Z'$.
Actualy, this last claim is not quite true. I know that if $S_1$ and $S_2$ have the same center then we are done, and this is the thing I'm trying to figure out.
Hint: One way to solution is with a use of a following lemma:
Lemma: Let the points $M,N,T$ be fixed. Let $P$ be on a fixed (red) line $ell$ and let $X$ and $Y$ be an ortogonal projections of $P$ on line $MT$ and $TN$. Then the map $Xlongmapsto Y$ is a spiral similarity with a center at point $F$ which is an intersection point of circle $PXY$ with $ell$.
Proof: Since $angle PFT = angle PYT =90^{circ}$ we see that $F$ is a fixed point.
Now since $$angle YXF = angle YTF =angle NTF = {rm fixed ;; angle}$$
and $$angle YFX = angle YTX =angle NTM = {rm fixed ;; angle}$$
the triangle $XYF$ has the same angles for all $P$ so the map $Xlongmapsto Y$ is a spiral similarity with rotational angle $angle MTN$ and center at $F$.
Lemma 2: Say $Z$ is a midpoint of $XY$ from the previous lemma. Then the map $Xlongmapsto Z $ is also a spiral similarity (different one) with the same center.
Idea how to finish: Clearly we have a spiral similarity $S_1$ which takes $Xmapsto Y$ and a spiral similarity $S_2$ which takes $Ymapsto Z$.
So we have $$Xstackrel{S_1}{longmapsto}Y stackrel{S_2}{longmapsto}Z$$
Now take another $X',Y',Z'$:
$$X'stackrel{S_1}{longmapsto}Y' stackrel{S_2}{longmapsto}Z'$$
I would like to show that there is a spiral similarity which takes $X$ to $X'$, $Y$ to $Y'$ and $Z$ to $Z'$ and this would prove the statement.
Clearly there is a spiral similarity that takes $X$ to $X'$ and $Y$ to $Y'$ induced by $S_1$, but I don't know how to show that it takes also $Z$ to $Z'$.
Actualy, this last claim is not quite true. I know that if $S_1$ and $S_2$ have the same center then we are done, and this is the thing I'm trying to figure out.
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Thank you. From these lemmas it can be seen that Z lies on a fixed line. But how can we progress from here?
– watson
yesterday
1
I' m still thinking how to finish this. I have an idea but not sure yet.
– greedoid
yesterday
1
Can you write your ideas here in the comment ? I will understand if you want to keep it secret.
– watson
yesterday
1
There is no secret. I just don't know how to finish it. I will edit my post.
– greedoid
yesterday
1
About the Idea, are $X,Y,Z$ the points of your lemma, or the midpoints from my problem? Moreover, the spiral similarities have the same centers.
– watson
yesterday
|
show 1 more comment
1
Thank you. From these lemmas it can be seen that Z lies on a fixed line. But how can we progress from here?
– watson
yesterday
1
I' m still thinking how to finish this. I have an idea but not sure yet.
– greedoid
yesterday
1
Can you write your ideas here in the comment ? I will understand if you want to keep it secret.
– watson
yesterday
1
There is no secret. I just don't know how to finish it. I will edit my post.
– greedoid
yesterday
1
About the Idea, are $X,Y,Z$ the points of your lemma, or the midpoints from my problem? Moreover, the spiral similarities have the same centers.
– watson
yesterday
1
1
Thank you. From these lemmas it can be seen that Z lies on a fixed line. But how can we progress from here?
– watson
yesterday
Thank you. From these lemmas it can be seen that Z lies on a fixed line. But how can we progress from here?
– watson
yesterday
1
1
I' m still thinking how to finish this. I have an idea but not sure yet.
– greedoid
yesterday
I' m still thinking how to finish this. I have an idea but not sure yet.
– greedoid
yesterday
1
1
Can you write your ideas here in the comment ? I will understand if you want to keep it secret.
– watson
yesterday
Can you write your ideas here in the comment ? I will understand if you want to keep it secret.
– watson
yesterday
1
1
There is no secret. I just don't know how to finish it. I will edit my post.
– greedoid
yesterday
There is no secret. I just don't know how to finish it. I will edit my post.
– greedoid
yesterday
1
1
About the Idea, are $X,Y,Z$ the points of your lemma, or the midpoints from my problem? Moreover, the spiral similarities have the same centers.
– watson
yesterday
About the Idea, are $X,Y,Z$ the points of your lemma, or the midpoints from my problem? Moreover, the spiral similarities have the same centers.
– watson
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Following is an algebraic proof of the statement. To make the algebra manageable. We will choose a coordinate system where $A$ is the origin and identify the euclidean plane with the complex plane.
Let $p, z_1,z_2,z_3, u_1, v_1, w_1, w_2, w_3$ be the complex numbers corresponds to $P,
B,C,D,S,T,X,Z,Y$ respectively.
Any line $ell subset mathbb{C}$ can be represented by a pair of complex number, a point $q in ell$ and a $t$ for its direction. Points on $ell$ has the form $q + lambda t$ for some real $lambda$. In order for this point to be the projection of $p$ on $ell$, we need
$$Re( ( q + lambda t - p )bar{t}) = 0quadimpliesquadlambda = frac{Re((p - q)bar{t})}{tbar{t}}
$$
The projection of $p$ on line $ell$, let call it $pi_ell(p)$, will be given by the formula
$$pi_{ell}(p) = q + frac{(p-q)bar{t} + (bar{p}-bar{q})t}{2bar{t}} = frac{q+p}{2} +frac12(bar{p} - bar{q})frac{t}{bar{t}}tag{*1a}$$
In the special case that $q = 0$, this reduces to
$$pi_{ell}(p) = frac{p}{2} + frac12bar{p}frac{t}{bar{t}}tag{*1b}$$
Apply $(*1b)$ and $(*1a)$ to $S$ and $T$, we get
$$u_1 = frac{p}{2} + frac12bar{p}frac{z_1}{bar{z}_1}
quadtext{ and }quad
v_1 = frac{p + z_2}{2} + frac12(bar{p} - bar{z}_2)frac{z_2 - z_3}{bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3}
$$
Combine them and simplify, we get
$$
w_1 = frac{u_1+v_1}{2} =
frac{p}{2} + frac14bar{p}
underbrace{left(frac{z_1}{bar{z}_1} + frac{z_2-z_3}{bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3}right)}_{A_1}
+
frac14
underbrace{left(frac{z_3bar{z}_2 - z_2bar{z}_3}{bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3}right)}_{B_1}$$
Let's call the two coefficients in parentheses as $A_1$ and $B_1$. By similar argument,
we can derive corresponding formula for $w_2$ and $w_3$. In general, we have
$$w_i =
frac{p}{2} + frac14bar{p} A_i + frac14 B_i
quadtext{ where }quad
begin{cases}
displaystyle;A_i = frac{z_i}{bar{z}_i} + frac{z_j-z_k}{bar{z}_j - bar{z}_k}\
displaystyle;B_i = frac{z_kbar{z}_j - z_jbar{z}_k}{bar{z}_j-bar{z}_k}
end{cases}
$$
for $(i,j,k)$ running over cyclic permutations of $(1,2,3)$.
Given any two triangle $M$, $N$ with vertices $m_1,m_2,m_3$ and $n_1,n_2,n_3$. They are similar (with matching angles) if they have the same cross-ratio
$$frac{m_3-m_1}{m_2-m_1} = frac{n_3-n_1}{n_2 - n_1}$$
In order for the angles of triangle $XYZ$ to be independent of $P$, we need the cross ratio
$$frac{w_3 - w_1}{w_2-w_1}
= frac{(A_3 - A_1)bar{p} + (B_3 - B_1)}{(A_2-A_1)bar{p} + (B_2-B_1)}$$
to be independent of $p$. This is equivalent to
$$frac{A_3-A_1}{A_2-A_1} = frac{B_3-B_1}{B_2-B_1}
iff left|begin{matrix}A_3 - A_1 & B_3 - B_1 \ A_2 - A_1 & B_2 - B_1end{matrix}right| = 0$$
At the end, it comes down whether following complicated determinant evaluates to zero
$$
left|largebegin{matrix}
1 & frac{z_1}{bar{z}_1} + frac{z_2-z_3}{bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3}
& frac{z_3bar{z}_2 - z_2bar{z}_3}{bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3}\
1 & frac{z_2}{bar{z}_2} + frac{z_3-z_1}{bar{z}_3 - bar{z}_1}
& frac{z_1bar{z}_3 - z_3bar{z}_1}{bar{z}_3 - bar{z}_1} \
1 & frac{z_3}{bar{z}_3} + frac{z_1-z_2}{bar{z}_1 - bar{z}_2}
& frac{z_2bar{z}_1 - z_1bar{z}_2}{bar{z}_1 - bar{z}_2} \
end{matrix}right|
stackrel{?}{=} 0
$$
If one multiply
first row by $bar{z}_1(bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3)$,
second row by $bar{z}_2(bar{z}_3 - bar{z}_1)$
third row by $bar{z}_3(bar{z}_1 - bar{z}_2)$
and sum them together, one obtain an zero row!
This means above determinant vanishes and the cross-ratio $frac{w_3 - w_1}{w_2-w_1}$ is independent of $p$.
This verify the angles in $triangle XYZ$ doesn't depend on location of $P$.
With help of an CAS, one also obtain
$$frac{w_3-w_1}{w_2-w_1} = frac{A_3-A_1}{A_2-A_1} = frac{B_3-B_1}{B_2-B1}
= frac{(bar{z}_3 - bar{z}_1)bar{z}_2}{(bar{z}_2-bar{z}_1)bar{z}_3}$$
The last expression is complex conjugate of a cross-ratio of the 4 numbers $(0,z_1,z_2,z_3)$. With this, we can deduce the angles of $triangle XYZ$
from the angles among the sides/diagonals of quadrilateral $ABCD$.
As an example, in the configuration below, we have
$$angle ZXY (approx 13.97^circ) = angle CAD (approx 46.14^circ) - angle CBD (approx 32.17^circ)$$
Please note that when quadrilateral $ABCD$ is cyclic, $angle CAD = angle CBD$. In such cases, triangle $XYZ$ degenerate into a line segment (as first pointed out by @g.kov in comment).
I hope this can inspire someone to discover a more geometric proof of this (in particular, above relations among the angles).
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Following is an algebraic proof of the statement. To make the algebra manageable. We will choose a coordinate system where $A$ is the origin and identify the euclidean plane with the complex plane.
Let $p, z_1,z_2,z_3, u_1, v_1, w_1, w_2, w_3$ be the complex numbers corresponds to $P,
B,C,D,S,T,X,Z,Y$ respectively.
Any line $ell subset mathbb{C}$ can be represented by a pair of complex number, a point $q in ell$ and a $t$ for its direction. Points on $ell$ has the form $q + lambda t$ for some real $lambda$. In order for this point to be the projection of $p$ on $ell$, we need
$$Re( ( q + lambda t - p )bar{t}) = 0quadimpliesquadlambda = frac{Re((p - q)bar{t})}{tbar{t}}
$$
The projection of $p$ on line $ell$, let call it $pi_ell(p)$, will be given by the formula
$$pi_{ell}(p) = q + frac{(p-q)bar{t} + (bar{p}-bar{q})t}{2bar{t}} = frac{q+p}{2} +frac12(bar{p} - bar{q})frac{t}{bar{t}}tag{*1a}$$
In the special case that $q = 0$, this reduces to
$$pi_{ell}(p) = frac{p}{2} + frac12bar{p}frac{t}{bar{t}}tag{*1b}$$
Apply $(*1b)$ and $(*1a)$ to $S$ and $T$, we get
$$u_1 = frac{p}{2} + frac12bar{p}frac{z_1}{bar{z}_1}
quadtext{ and }quad
v_1 = frac{p + z_2}{2} + frac12(bar{p} - bar{z}_2)frac{z_2 - z_3}{bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3}
$$
Combine them and simplify, we get
$$
w_1 = frac{u_1+v_1}{2} =
frac{p}{2} + frac14bar{p}
underbrace{left(frac{z_1}{bar{z}_1} + frac{z_2-z_3}{bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3}right)}_{A_1}
+
frac14
underbrace{left(frac{z_3bar{z}_2 - z_2bar{z}_3}{bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3}right)}_{B_1}$$
Let's call the two coefficients in parentheses as $A_1$ and $B_1$. By similar argument,
we can derive corresponding formula for $w_2$ and $w_3$. In general, we have
$$w_i =
frac{p}{2} + frac14bar{p} A_i + frac14 B_i
quadtext{ where }quad
begin{cases}
displaystyle;A_i = frac{z_i}{bar{z}_i} + frac{z_j-z_k}{bar{z}_j - bar{z}_k}\
displaystyle;B_i = frac{z_kbar{z}_j - z_jbar{z}_k}{bar{z}_j-bar{z}_k}
end{cases}
$$
for $(i,j,k)$ running over cyclic permutations of $(1,2,3)$.
Given any two triangle $M$, $N$ with vertices $m_1,m_2,m_3$ and $n_1,n_2,n_3$. They are similar (with matching angles) if they have the same cross-ratio
$$frac{m_3-m_1}{m_2-m_1} = frac{n_3-n_1}{n_2 - n_1}$$
In order for the angles of triangle $XYZ$ to be independent of $P$, we need the cross ratio
$$frac{w_3 - w_1}{w_2-w_1}
= frac{(A_3 - A_1)bar{p} + (B_3 - B_1)}{(A_2-A_1)bar{p} + (B_2-B_1)}$$
to be independent of $p$. This is equivalent to
$$frac{A_3-A_1}{A_2-A_1} = frac{B_3-B_1}{B_2-B_1}
iff left|begin{matrix}A_3 - A_1 & B_3 - B_1 \ A_2 - A_1 & B_2 - B_1end{matrix}right| = 0$$
At the end, it comes down whether following complicated determinant evaluates to zero
$$
left|largebegin{matrix}
1 & frac{z_1}{bar{z}_1} + frac{z_2-z_3}{bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3}
& frac{z_3bar{z}_2 - z_2bar{z}_3}{bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3}\
1 & frac{z_2}{bar{z}_2} + frac{z_3-z_1}{bar{z}_3 - bar{z}_1}
& frac{z_1bar{z}_3 - z_3bar{z}_1}{bar{z}_3 - bar{z}_1} \
1 & frac{z_3}{bar{z}_3} + frac{z_1-z_2}{bar{z}_1 - bar{z}_2}
& frac{z_2bar{z}_1 - z_1bar{z}_2}{bar{z}_1 - bar{z}_2} \
end{matrix}right|
stackrel{?}{=} 0
$$
If one multiply
first row by $bar{z}_1(bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3)$,
second row by $bar{z}_2(bar{z}_3 - bar{z}_1)$
third row by $bar{z}_3(bar{z}_1 - bar{z}_2)$
and sum them together, one obtain an zero row!
This means above determinant vanishes and the cross-ratio $frac{w_3 - w_1}{w_2-w_1}$ is independent of $p$.
This verify the angles in $triangle XYZ$ doesn't depend on location of $P$.
With help of an CAS, one also obtain
$$frac{w_3-w_1}{w_2-w_1} = frac{A_3-A_1}{A_2-A_1} = frac{B_3-B_1}{B_2-B1}
= frac{(bar{z}_3 - bar{z}_1)bar{z}_2}{(bar{z}_2-bar{z}_1)bar{z}_3}$$
The last expression is complex conjugate of a cross-ratio of the 4 numbers $(0,z_1,z_2,z_3)$. With this, we can deduce the angles of $triangle XYZ$
from the angles among the sides/diagonals of quadrilateral $ABCD$.
As an example, in the configuration below, we have
$$angle ZXY (approx 13.97^circ) = angle CAD (approx 46.14^circ) - angle CBD (approx 32.17^circ)$$
Please note that when quadrilateral $ABCD$ is cyclic, $angle CAD = angle CBD$. In such cases, triangle $XYZ$ degenerate into a line segment (as first pointed out by @g.kov in comment).
I hope this can inspire someone to discover a more geometric proof of this (in particular, above relations among the angles).
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Following is an algebraic proof of the statement. To make the algebra manageable. We will choose a coordinate system where $A$ is the origin and identify the euclidean plane with the complex plane.
Let $p, z_1,z_2,z_3, u_1, v_1, w_1, w_2, w_3$ be the complex numbers corresponds to $P,
B,C,D,S,T,X,Z,Y$ respectively.
Any line $ell subset mathbb{C}$ can be represented by a pair of complex number, a point $q in ell$ and a $t$ for its direction. Points on $ell$ has the form $q + lambda t$ for some real $lambda$. In order for this point to be the projection of $p$ on $ell$, we need
$$Re( ( q + lambda t - p )bar{t}) = 0quadimpliesquadlambda = frac{Re((p - q)bar{t})}{tbar{t}}
$$
The projection of $p$ on line $ell$, let call it $pi_ell(p)$, will be given by the formula
$$pi_{ell}(p) = q + frac{(p-q)bar{t} + (bar{p}-bar{q})t}{2bar{t}} = frac{q+p}{2} +frac12(bar{p} - bar{q})frac{t}{bar{t}}tag{*1a}$$
In the special case that $q = 0$, this reduces to
$$pi_{ell}(p) = frac{p}{2} + frac12bar{p}frac{t}{bar{t}}tag{*1b}$$
Apply $(*1b)$ and $(*1a)$ to $S$ and $T$, we get
$$u_1 = frac{p}{2} + frac12bar{p}frac{z_1}{bar{z}_1}
quadtext{ and }quad
v_1 = frac{p + z_2}{2} + frac12(bar{p} - bar{z}_2)frac{z_2 - z_3}{bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3}
$$
Combine them and simplify, we get
$$
w_1 = frac{u_1+v_1}{2} =
frac{p}{2} + frac14bar{p}
underbrace{left(frac{z_1}{bar{z}_1} + frac{z_2-z_3}{bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3}right)}_{A_1}
+
frac14
underbrace{left(frac{z_3bar{z}_2 - z_2bar{z}_3}{bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3}right)}_{B_1}$$
Let's call the two coefficients in parentheses as $A_1$ and $B_1$. By similar argument,
we can derive corresponding formula for $w_2$ and $w_3$. In general, we have
$$w_i =
frac{p}{2} + frac14bar{p} A_i + frac14 B_i
quadtext{ where }quad
begin{cases}
displaystyle;A_i = frac{z_i}{bar{z}_i} + frac{z_j-z_k}{bar{z}_j - bar{z}_k}\
displaystyle;B_i = frac{z_kbar{z}_j - z_jbar{z}_k}{bar{z}_j-bar{z}_k}
end{cases}
$$
for $(i,j,k)$ running over cyclic permutations of $(1,2,3)$.
Given any two triangle $M$, $N$ with vertices $m_1,m_2,m_3$ and $n_1,n_2,n_3$. They are similar (with matching angles) if they have the same cross-ratio
$$frac{m_3-m_1}{m_2-m_1} = frac{n_3-n_1}{n_2 - n_1}$$
In order for the angles of triangle $XYZ$ to be independent of $P$, we need the cross ratio
$$frac{w_3 - w_1}{w_2-w_1}
= frac{(A_3 - A_1)bar{p} + (B_3 - B_1)}{(A_2-A_1)bar{p} + (B_2-B_1)}$$
to be independent of $p$. This is equivalent to
$$frac{A_3-A_1}{A_2-A_1} = frac{B_3-B_1}{B_2-B_1}
iff left|begin{matrix}A_3 - A_1 & B_3 - B_1 \ A_2 - A_1 & B_2 - B_1end{matrix}right| = 0$$
At the end, it comes down whether following complicated determinant evaluates to zero
$$
left|largebegin{matrix}
1 & frac{z_1}{bar{z}_1} + frac{z_2-z_3}{bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3}
& frac{z_3bar{z}_2 - z_2bar{z}_3}{bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3}\
1 & frac{z_2}{bar{z}_2} + frac{z_3-z_1}{bar{z}_3 - bar{z}_1}
& frac{z_1bar{z}_3 - z_3bar{z}_1}{bar{z}_3 - bar{z}_1} \
1 & frac{z_3}{bar{z}_3} + frac{z_1-z_2}{bar{z}_1 - bar{z}_2}
& frac{z_2bar{z}_1 - z_1bar{z}_2}{bar{z}_1 - bar{z}_2} \
end{matrix}right|
stackrel{?}{=} 0
$$
If one multiply
first row by $bar{z}_1(bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3)$,
second row by $bar{z}_2(bar{z}_3 - bar{z}_1)$
third row by $bar{z}_3(bar{z}_1 - bar{z}_2)$
and sum them together, one obtain an zero row!
This means above determinant vanishes and the cross-ratio $frac{w_3 - w_1}{w_2-w_1}$ is independent of $p$.
This verify the angles in $triangle XYZ$ doesn't depend on location of $P$.
With help of an CAS, one also obtain
$$frac{w_3-w_1}{w_2-w_1} = frac{A_3-A_1}{A_2-A_1} = frac{B_3-B_1}{B_2-B1}
= frac{(bar{z}_3 - bar{z}_1)bar{z}_2}{(bar{z}_2-bar{z}_1)bar{z}_3}$$
The last expression is complex conjugate of a cross-ratio of the 4 numbers $(0,z_1,z_2,z_3)$. With this, we can deduce the angles of $triangle XYZ$
from the angles among the sides/diagonals of quadrilateral $ABCD$.
As an example, in the configuration below, we have
$$angle ZXY (approx 13.97^circ) = angle CAD (approx 46.14^circ) - angle CBD (approx 32.17^circ)$$
Please note that when quadrilateral $ABCD$ is cyclic, $angle CAD = angle CBD$. In such cases, triangle $XYZ$ degenerate into a line segment (as first pointed out by @g.kov in comment).
I hope this can inspire someone to discover a more geometric proof of this (in particular, above relations among the angles).
Following is an algebraic proof of the statement. To make the algebra manageable. We will choose a coordinate system where $A$ is the origin and identify the euclidean plane with the complex plane.
Let $p, z_1,z_2,z_3, u_1, v_1, w_1, w_2, w_3$ be the complex numbers corresponds to $P,
B,C,D,S,T,X,Z,Y$ respectively.
Any line $ell subset mathbb{C}$ can be represented by a pair of complex number, a point $q in ell$ and a $t$ for its direction. Points on $ell$ has the form $q + lambda t$ for some real $lambda$. In order for this point to be the projection of $p$ on $ell$, we need
$$Re( ( q + lambda t - p )bar{t}) = 0quadimpliesquadlambda = frac{Re((p - q)bar{t})}{tbar{t}}
$$
The projection of $p$ on line $ell$, let call it $pi_ell(p)$, will be given by the formula
$$pi_{ell}(p) = q + frac{(p-q)bar{t} + (bar{p}-bar{q})t}{2bar{t}} = frac{q+p}{2} +frac12(bar{p} - bar{q})frac{t}{bar{t}}tag{*1a}$$
In the special case that $q = 0$, this reduces to
$$pi_{ell}(p) = frac{p}{2} + frac12bar{p}frac{t}{bar{t}}tag{*1b}$$
Apply $(*1b)$ and $(*1a)$ to $S$ and $T$, we get
$$u_1 = frac{p}{2} + frac12bar{p}frac{z_1}{bar{z}_1}
quadtext{ and }quad
v_1 = frac{p + z_2}{2} + frac12(bar{p} - bar{z}_2)frac{z_2 - z_3}{bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3}
$$
Combine them and simplify, we get
$$
w_1 = frac{u_1+v_1}{2} =
frac{p}{2} + frac14bar{p}
underbrace{left(frac{z_1}{bar{z}_1} + frac{z_2-z_3}{bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3}right)}_{A_1}
+
frac14
underbrace{left(frac{z_3bar{z}_2 - z_2bar{z}_3}{bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3}right)}_{B_1}$$
Let's call the two coefficients in parentheses as $A_1$ and $B_1$. By similar argument,
we can derive corresponding formula for $w_2$ and $w_3$. In general, we have
$$w_i =
frac{p}{2} + frac14bar{p} A_i + frac14 B_i
quadtext{ where }quad
begin{cases}
displaystyle;A_i = frac{z_i}{bar{z}_i} + frac{z_j-z_k}{bar{z}_j - bar{z}_k}\
displaystyle;B_i = frac{z_kbar{z}_j - z_jbar{z}_k}{bar{z}_j-bar{z}_k}
end{cases}
$$
for $(i,j,k)$ running over cyclic permutations of $(1,2,3)$.
Given any two triangle $M$, $N$ with vertices $m_1,m_2,m_3$ and $n_1,n_2,n_3$. They are similar (with matching angles) if they have the same cross-ratio
$$frac{m_3-m_1}{m_2-m_1} = frac{n_3-n_1}{n_2 - n_1}$$
In order for the angles of triangle $XYZ$ to be independent of $P$, we need the cross ratio
$$frac{w_3 - w_1}{w_2-w_1}
= frac{(A_3 - A_1)bar{p} + (B_3 - B_1)}{(A_2-A_1)bar{p} + (B_2-B_1)}$$
to be independent of $p$. This is equivalent to
$$frac{A_3-A_1}{A_2-A_1} = frac{B_3-B_1}{B_2-B_1}
iff left|begin{matrix}A_3 - A_1 & B_3 - B_1 \ A_2 - A_1 & B_2 - B_1end{matrix}right| = 0$$
At the end, it comes down whether following complicated determinant evaluates to zero
$$
left|largebegin{matrix}
1 & frac{z_1}{bar{z}_1} + frac{z_2-z_3}{bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3}
& frac{z_3bar{z}_2 - z_2bar{z}_3}{bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3}\
1 & frac{z_2}{bar{z}_2} + frac{z_3-z_1}{bar{z}_3 - bar{z}_1}
& frac{z_1bar{z}_3 - z_3bar{z}_1}{bar{z}_3 - bar{z}_1} \
1 & frac{z_3}{bar{z}_3} + frac{z_1-z_2}{bar{z}_1 - bar{z}_2}
& frac{z_2bar{z}_1 - z_1bar{z}_2}{bar{z}_1 - bar{z}_2} \
end{matrix}right|
stackrel{?}{=} 0
$$
If one multiply
first row by $bar{z}_1(bar{z}_2 - bar{z}_3)$,
second row by $bar{z}_2(bar{z}_3 - bar{z}_1)$
third row by $bar{z}_3(bar{z}_1 - bar{z}_2)$
and sum them together, one obtain an zero row!
This means above determinant vanishes and the cross-ratio $frac{w_3 - w_1}{w_2-w_1}$ is independent of $p$.
This verify the angles in $triangle XYZ$ doesn't depend on location of $P$.
With help of an CAS, one also obtain
$$frac{w_3-w_1}{w_2-w_1} = frac{A_3-A_1}{A_2-A_1} = frac{B_3-B_1}{B_2-B1}
= frac{(bar{z}_3 - bar{z}_1)bar{z}_2}{(bar{z}_2-bar{z}_1)bar{z}_3}$$
The last expression is complex conjugate of a cross-ratio of the 4 numbers $(0,z_1,z_2,z_3)$. With this, we can deduce the angles of $triangle XYZ$
from the angles among the sides/diagonals of quadrilateral $ABCD$.
As an example, in the configuration below, we have
$$angle ZXY (approx 13.97^circ) = angle CAD (approx 46.14^circ) - angle CBD (approx 32.17^circ)$$
Please note that when quadrilateral $ABCD$ is cyclic, $angle CAD = angle CBD$. In such cases, triangle $XYZ$ degenerate into a line segment (as first pointed out by @g.kov in comment).
I hope this can inspire someone to discover a more geometric proof of this (in particular, above relations among the angles).
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Rather than upvote, the question should be closed for lack of ideas.
– Parcly Taxel
Nov 12 at 7:01
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@ParclyTaxel I really don't understand why should this problem be closed. Watson could have provided a few pages of nonsense just to "illustrate" some "ideas" that he had and prevent closing votes or downvotes. In some cases, it's fair to say: "Folks, I think this problem is interesting and I really don;t have a clue how to approach it because it's too difficult". And this problem is not homework.
– Oldboy
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(+1) To my surprise, the statement is actually true. I reduce the problem to one about vanishing of some complicated determinant and using a CAS, the determinant does simplify to zero.
– achille hui
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@watson I mean, if this is your own theorem, it makes it even more interesting. The statement definitely true and this problem should be reopened. I will provide a better picture for you.
– Oldboy
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@watson I have provided better looking pictures. The statement is definitely true, no doubt about it. And. yes, some good people actually helped to reopen the problem. I am happy that you are geeting the attention that you deserve.
– Oldboy
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