Estimate the remainder term of an unusual interpolation: $f(-1)=f(1)=f'(0)=f''(0)=0$












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Suppose that $f(x)in C^{4}[-1,1]$ and
$$f(-1)=f(1)=f'(0)=f''(0)=0$$
Show that for every $xin[-1,1]$, there exist a $xi_xin[-1,1]$, such that
$$f(x)=frac{x^4-1}{4!}f^{(4)}(xi_x)$$
where $f^{(4)}(x)$ denoted the forth derivative of $f(x)$.



The question is relevant to interpolation, for the only polynomial $p(x)$ satisfying
$$p(-1)=p(1)=p'(0)=p''(0)=0$$
is $x^4-1$ and the question gives an estimate of the remainder term of this interpolation.



I tried Taylor but failed because Taylor is a Hermite interpolation on one point but this question is not a pure Hermite interpolation.










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    Try using Rolle's Theorem on $f$ then $f'$ then $f''$ finally on $f^{(3)}$. You should also use the Mean Value Thoerem and the $cin[-1,1]$ should be $xi_x$
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    @TheD0ubleT It doesn't work. Maybe you can post an answer if you've solved it.
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Suppose that $f(x)in C^{4}[-1,1]$ and
$$f(-1)=f(1)=f'(0)=f''(0)=0$$
Show that for every $xin[-1,1]$, there exist a $xi_xin[-1,1]$, such that
$$f(x)=frac{x^4-1}{4!}f^{(4)}(xi_x)$$
where $f^{(4)}(x)$ denoted the forth derivative of $f(x)$.



The question is relevant to interpolation, for the only polynomial $p(x)$ satisfying
$$p(-1)=p(1)=p'(0)=p''(0)=0$$
is $x^4-1$ and the question gives an estimate of the remainder term of this interpolation.



I tried Taylor but failed because Taylor is a Hermite interpolation on one point but this question is not a pure Hermite interpolation.










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    Try using Rolle's Theorem on $f$ then $f'$ then $f''$ finally on $f^{(3)}$. You should also use the Mean Value Thoerem and the $cin[-1,1]$ should be $xi_x$
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    – TheD0ubleT
    Dec 11 '18 at 8:55










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    @TheD0ubleT It doesn't work. Maybe you can post an answer if you've solved it.
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    – Lau
    Dec 18 '18 at 3:02
















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Suppose that $f(x)in C^{4}[-1,1]$ and
$$f(-1)=f(1)=f'(0)=f''(0)=0$$
Show that for every $xin[-1,1]$, there exist a $xi_xin[-1,1]$, such that
$$f(x)=frac{x^4-1}{4!}f^{(4)}(xi_x)$$
where $f^{(4)}(x)$ denoted the forth derivative of $f(x)$.



The question is relevant to interpolation, for the only polynomial $p(x)$ satisfying
$$p(-1)=p(1)=p'(0)=p''(0)=0$$
is $x^4-1$ and the question gives an estimate of the remainder term of this interpolation.



I tried Taylor but failed because Taylor is a Hermite interpolation on one point but this question is not a pure Hermite interpolation.










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Suppose that $f(x)in C^{4}[-1,1]$ and
$$f(-1)=f(1)=f'(0)=f''(0)=0$$
Show that for every $xin[-1,1]$, there exist a $xi_xin[-1,1]$, such that
$$f(x)=frac{x^4-1}{4!}f^{(4)}(xi_x)$$
where $f^{(4)}(x)$ denoted the forth derivative of $f(x)$.



The question is relevant to interpolation, for the only polynomial $p(x)$ satisfying
$$p(-1)=p(1)=p'(0)=p''(0)=0$$
is $x^4-1$ and the question gives an estimate of the remainder term of this interpolation.



I tried Taylor but failed because Taylor is a Hermite interpolation on one point but this question is not a pure Hermite interpolation.







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    Try using Rolle's Theorem on $f$ then $f'$ then $f''$ finally on $f^{(3)}$. You should also use the Mean Value Thoerem and the $cin[-1,1]$ should be $xi_x$
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    – TheD0ubleT
    Dec 11 '18 at 8:55










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    @TheD0ubleT It doesn't work. Maybe you can post an answer if you've solved it.
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    – Lau
    Dec 18 '18 at 3:02




















  • $begingroup$
    Try using Rolle's Theorem on $f$ then $f'$ then $f''$ finally on $f^{(3)}$. You should also use the Mean Value Thoerem and the $cin[-1,1]$ should be $xi_x$
    $endgroup$
    – TheD0ubleT
    Dec 11 '18 at 8:55










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    @TheD0ubleT It doesn't work. Maybe you can post an answer if you've solved it.
    $endgroup$
    – Lau
    Dec 18 '18 at 3:02


















$begingroup$
Try using Rolle's Theorem on $f$ then $f'$ then $f''$ finally on $f^{(3)}$. You should also use the Mean Value Thoerem and the $cin[-1,1]$ should be $xi_x$
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– TheD0ubleT
Dec 11 '18 at 8:55




$begingroup$
Try using Rolle's Theorem on $f$ then $f'$ then $f''$ finally on $f^{(3)}$. You should also use the Mean Value Thoerem and the $cin[-1,1]$ should be $xi_x$
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– TheD0ubleT
Dec 11 '18 at 8:55












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@TheD0ubleT It doesn't work. Maybe you can post an answer if you've solved it.
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– Lau
Dec 18 '18 at 3:02






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@TheD0ubleT It doesn't work. Maybe you can post an answer if you've solved it.
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Emmm... I think I've worked it out on my own.
And this kind of interpolation is called Birkhoff interpolation.



For $x=1$ and $x=-1$, we're done. For $xin(-1,1)$, define
$$phi(t)=f(t)-frac{f(x)}{x^4-1}(t^4-1),quad tin[-1,1]$$
is a $C^4[-1,1]$ function and
$$phi(1)=phi(-1)=phi(x)=phi'(0)=phi''(0)=0$$
If $x=0$, then we can solve it by repeatedly using Rolle's Theorem.



If $xnotin{-1,0,1}$, say $xin(-1,0)$, by Rolle's Theorem:



There exist a $xi_1in(-1,0)$, such that $phi'(xi_1)=0$.



There exist a $xi_2in(xi_1,0)$, such that $phi''(xi_2)=0$.



There exist a $xi_3in(xi_2,0)$, such that $phi'''(xi_3)=0$.



Now, Consider the following claims:



(a) All nulls of $phi(t)$ are $-1,x,1$.



(b) All nulls of $phi'(t)$ are $xi_1,0$.



(c) All nulls of $phi''(t)$ are $xi_2,0$.



(d) All nulls of $phi'''(t)$ are $xi_3$.



If one of the claims is false, then we can reach the conclusion by repeatedly using Rolle's Theorem.



If all the claims are true, then by (b) $phi(t)$ is monotonic respectively on $(x,0)$ and $(0,1)$.



By (a), we know $phi(t)$ has different monotonicity on $(x,0)$ and $(0,1)$, so $phi'(t)$ changes sign at $0$.



By (c), $phi''(t)$ doesn't change sign at $0$, hence we know $phi'''(t)=0$, which contradicts to (d).



So we've done, the situation where $xin(0,1)$ is similar.






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    Why should $phi(0)$ be zero? Is that a typo or does your proof rely on it?
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    – Martin R
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    @MartinR Thanks to point it out. I've fixed it.
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Emmm... I think I've worked it out on my own.
And this kind of interpolation is called Birkhoff interpolation.



For $x=1$ and $x=-1$, we're done. For $xin(-1,1)$, define
$$phi(t)=f(t)-frac{f(x)}{x^4-1}(t^4-1),quad tin[-1,1]$$
is a $C^4[-1,1]$ function and
$$phi(1)=phi(-1)=phi(x)=phi'(0)=phi''(0)=0$$
If $x=0$, then we can solve it by repeatedly using Rolle's Theorem.



If $xnotin{-1,0,1}$, say $xin(-1,0)$, by Rolle's Theorem:



There exist a $xi_1in(-1,0)$, such that $phi'(xi_1)=0$.



There exist a $xi_2in(xi_1,0)$, such that $phi''(xi_2)=0$.



There exist a $xi_3in(xi_2,0)$, such that $phi'''(xi_3)=0$.



Now, Consider the following claims:



(a) All nulls of $phi(t)$ are $-1,x,1$.



(b) All nulls of $phi'(t)$ are $xi_1,0$.



(c) All nulls of $phi''(t)$ are $xi_2,0$.



(d) All nulls of $phi'''(t)$ are $xi_3$.



If one of the claims is false, then we can reach the conclusion by repeatedly using Rolle's Theorem.



If all the claims are true, then by (b) $phi(t)$ is monotonic respectively on $(x,0)$ and $(0,1)$.



By (a), we know $phi(t)$ has different monotonicity on $(x,0)$ and $(0,1)$, so $phi'(t)$ changes sign at $0$.



By (c), $phi''(t)$ doesn't change sign at $0$, hence we know $phi'''(t)=0$, which contradicts to (d).



So we've done, the situation where $xin(0,1)$ is similar.






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    Why should $phi(0)$ be zero? Is that a typo or does your proof rely on it?
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    – Martin R
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    @MartinR Thanks to point it out. I've fixed it.
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    – Lau
    Dec 21 '18 at 1:58
















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Emmm... I think I've worked it out on my own.
And this kind of interpolation is called Birkhoff interpolation.



For $x=1$ and $x=-1$, we're done. For $xin(-1,1)$, define
$$phi(t)=f(t)-frac{f(x)}{x^4-1}(t^4-1),quad tin[-1,1]$$
is a $C^4[-1,1]$ function and
$$phi(1)=phi(-1)=phi(x)=phi'(0)=phi''(0)=0$$
If $x=0$, then we can solve it by repeatedly using Rolle's Theorem.



If $xnotin{-1,0,1}$, say $xin(-1,0)$, by Rolle's Theorem:



There exist a $xi_1in(-1,0)$, such that $phi'(xi_1)=0$.



There exist a $xi_2in(xi_1,0)$, such that $phi''(xi_2)=0$.



There exist a $xi_3in(xi_2,0)$, such that $phi'''(xi_3)=0$.



Now, Consider the following claims:



(a) All nulls of $phi(t)$ are $-1,x,1$.



(b) All nulls of $phi'(t)$ are $xi_1,0$.



(c) All nulls of $phi''(t)$ are $xi_2,0$.



(d) All nulls of $phi'''(t)$ are $xi_3$.



If one of the claims is false, then we can reach the conclusion by repeatedly using Rolle's Theorem.



If all the claims are true, then by (b) $phi(t)$ is monotonic respectively on $(x,0)$ and $(0,1)$.



By (a), we know $phi(t)$ has different monotonicity on $(x,0)$ and $(0,1)$, so $phi'(t)$ changes sign at $0$.



By (c), $phi''(t)$ doesn't change sign at $0$, hence we know $phi'''(t)=0$, which contradicts to (d).



So we've done, the situation where $xin(0,1)$ is similar.






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    Why should $phi(0)$ be zero? Is that a typo or does your proof rely on it?
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    – Martin R
    Dec 20 '18 at 19:34










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    @MartinR Thanks to point it out. I've fixed it.
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    – Lau
    Dec 21 '18 at 1:58














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Emmm... I think I've worked it out on my own.
And this kind of interpolation is called Birkhoff interpolation.



For $x=1$ and $x=-1$, we're done. For $xin(-1,1)$, define
$$phi(t)=f(t)-frac{f(x)}{x^4-1}(t^4-1),quad tin[-1,1]$$
is a $C^4[-1,1]$ function and
$$phi(1)=phi(-1)=phi(x)=phi'(0)=phi''(0)=0$$
If $x=0$, then we can solve it by repeatedly using Rolle's Theorem.



If $xnotin{-1,0,1}$, say $xin(-1,0)$, by Rolle's Theorem:



There exist a $xi_1in(-1,0)$, such that $phi'(xi_1)=0$.



There exist a $xi_2in(xi_1,0)$, such that $phi''(xi_2)=0$.



There exist a $xi_3in(xi_2,0)$, such that $phi'''(xi_3)=0$.



Now, Consider the following claims:



(a) All nulls of $phi(t)$ are $-1,x,1$.



(b) All nulls of $phi'(t)$ are $xi_1,0$.



(c) All nulls of $phi''(t)$ are $xi_2,0$.



(d) All nulls of $phi'''(t)$ are $xi_3$.



If one of the claims is false, then we can reach the conclusion by repeatedly using Rolle's Theorem.



If all the claims are true, then by (b) $phi(t)$ is monotonic respectively on $(x,0)$ and $(0,1)$.



By (a), we know $phi(t)$ has different monotonicity on $(x,0)$ and $(0,1)$, so $phi'(t)$ changes sign at $0$.



By (c), $phi''(t)$ doesn't change sign at $0$, hence we know $phi'''(t)=0$, which contradicts to (d).



So we've done, the situation where $xin(0,1)$ is similar.






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Emmm... I think I've worked it out on my own.
And this kind of interpolation is called Birkhoff interpolation.



For $x=1$ and $x=-1$, we're done. For $xin(-1,1)$, define
$$phi(t)=f(t)-frac{f(x)}{x^4-1}(t^4-1),quad tin[-1,1]$$
is a $C^4[-1,1]$ function and
$$phi(1)=phi(-1)=phi(x)=phi'(0)=phi''(0)=0$$
If $x=0$, then we can solve it by repeatedly using Rolle's Theorem.



If $xnotin{-1,0,1}$, say $xin(-1,0)$, by Rolle's Theorem:



There exist a $xi_1in(-1,0)$, such that $phi'(xi_1)=0$.



There exist a $xi_2in(xi_1,0)$, such that $phi''(xi_2)=0$.



There exist a $xi_3in(xi_2,0)$, such that $phi'''(xi_3)=0$.



Now, Consider the following claims:



(a) All nulls of $phi(t)$ are $-1,x,1$.



(b) All nulls of $phi'(t)$ are $xi_1,0$.



(c) All nulls of $phi''(t)$ are $xi_2,0$.



(d) All nulls of $phi'''(t)$ are $xi_3$.



If one of the claims is false, then we can reach the conclusion by repeatedly using Rolle's Theorem.



If all the claims are true, then by (b) $phi(t)$ is monotonic respectively on $(x,0)$ and $(0,1)$.



By (a), we know $phi(t)$ has different monotonicity on $(x,0)$ and $(0,1)$, so $phi'(t)$ changes sign at $0$.



By (c), $phi''(t)$ doesn't change sign at $0$, hence we know $phi'''(t)=0$, which contradicts to (d).



So we've done, the situation where $xin(0,1)$ is similar.







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    Why should $phi(0)$ be zero? Is that a typo or does your proof rely on it?
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    – Martin R
    Dec 20 '18 at 19:34










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    @MartinR Thanks to point it out. I've fixed it.
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    – Lau
    Dec 21 '18 at 1:58


















  • $begingroup$
    Why should $phi(0)$ be zero? Is that a typo or does your proof rely on it?
    $endgroup$
    – Martin R
    Dec 20 '18 at 19:34










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    @MartinR Thanks to point it out. I've fixed it.
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    – Lau
    Dec 21 '18 at 1:58
















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Why should $phi(0)$ be zero? Is that a typo or does your proof rely on it?
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– Martin R
Dec 20 '18 at 19:34




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Why should $phi(0)$ be zero? Is that a typo or does your proof rely on it?
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– Martin R
Dec 20 '18 at 19:34












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@MartinR Thanks to point it out. I've fixed it.
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– Lau
Dec 21 '18 at 1:58




$begingroup$
@MartinR Thanks to point it out. I've fixed it.
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– Lau
Dec 21 '18 at 1:58


















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