Second derivative of norm of matrix power $lVert y - A^kx rVert$












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I am looking for the second derivative w.r.t $A$ (and $x$ and $y$, but those are a little easier):



$$
frac{partial^2}{partial A^2} frac{1}{2} lVert y - A^kx rVert_2^2
$$



I can find the first derivative with www.matrixcalculus.org:



$$
frac{partial}{partial A} frac{1}{2} lVert y - A^kx rVert_2^2 = -k cdot diag(y - A^kx)A^{k-1}cdot diag(x)
$$



But handling the "diag" operator wasn't clear. I am attempting/hoping to show that the Lipschitz constant used for gradient descent depends on $k$.










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    what does $k$ represent?
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    @user550103 - it's a scalar integer. In my particular use case, it represents "time" over which the discrete linear system described by $A$ is rolled forward. I should have put that in the question, sorry about that.
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I am looking for the second derivative w.r.t $A$ (and $x$ and $y$, but those are a little easier):



$$
frac{partial^2}{partial A^2} frac{1}{2} lVert y - A^kx rVert_2^2
$$



I can find the first derivative with www.matrixcalculus.org:



$$
frac{partial}{partial A} frac{1}{2} lVert y - A^kx rVert_2^2 = -k cdot diag(y - A^kx)A^{k-1}cdot diag(x)
$$



But handling the "diag" operator wasn't clear. I am attempting/hoping to show that the Lipschitz constant used for gradient descent depends on $k$.










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  • $begingroup$
    what does $k$ represent?
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    Dec 11 '18 at 11:44










  • $begingroup$
    @user550103 - it's a scalar integer. In my particular use case, it represents "time" over which the discrete linear system described by $A$ is rolled forward. I should have put that in the question, sorry about that.
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    – Robert
    Dec 11 '18 at 18:38














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I am looking for the second derivative w.r.t $A$ (and $x$ and $y$, but those are a little easier):



$$
frac{partial^2}{partial A^2} frac{1}{2} lVert y - A^kx rVert_2^2
$$



I can find the first derivative with www.matrixcalculus.org:



$$
frac{partial}{partial A} frac{1}{2} lVert y - A^kx rVert_2^2 = -k cdot diag(y - A^kx)A^{k-1}cdot diag(x)
$$



But handling the "diag" operator wasn't clear. I am attempting/hoping to show that the Lipschitz constant used for gradient descent depends on $k$.










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I am looking for the second derivative w.r.t $A$ (and $x$ and $y$, but those are a little easier):



$$
frac{partial^2}{partial A^2} frac{1}{2} lVert y - A^kx rVert_2^2
$$



I can find the first derivative with www.matrixcalculus.org:



$$
frac{partial}{partial A} frac{1}{2} lVert y - A^kx rVert_2^2 = -k cdot diag(y - A^kx)A^{k-1}cdot diag(x)
$$



But handling the "diag" operator wasn't clear. I am attempting/hoping to show that the Lipschitz constant used for gradient descent depends on $k$.







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  • $begingroup$
    what does $k$ represent?
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    – user550103
    Dec 11 '18 at 11:44










  • $begingroup$
    @user550103 - it's a scalar integer. In my particular use case, it represents "time" over which the discrete linear system described by $A$ is rolled forward. I should have put that in the question, sorry about that.
    $endgroup$
    – Robert
    Dec 11 '18 at 18:38


















  • $begingroup$
    what does $k$ represent?
    $endgroup$
    – user550103
    Dec 11 '18 at 11:44










  • $begingroup$
    @user550103 - it's a scalar integer. In my particular use case, it represents "time" over which the discrete linear system described by $A$ is rolled forward. I should have put that in the question, sorry about that.
    $endgroup$
    – Robert
    Dec 11 '18 at 18:38
















$begingroup$
what does $k$ represent?
$endgroup$
– user550103
Dec 11 '18 at 11:44




$begingroup$
what does $k$ represent?
$endgroup$
– user550103
Dec 11 '18 at 11:44












$begingroup$
@user550103 - it's a scalar integer. In my particular use case, it represents "time" over which the discrete linear system described by $A$ is rolled forward. I should have put that in the question, sorry about that.
$endgroup$
– Robert
Dec 11 '18 at 18:38




$begingroup$
@user550103 - it's a scalar integer. In my particular use case, it represents "time" over which the discrete linear system described by $A$ is rolled forward. I should have put that in the question, sorry about that.
$endgroup$
– Robert
Dec 11 '18 at 18:38










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The tricky part is the differential
$$eqalign{
dA^k &= sum_{j=0}^{k-1} A^{j},dA,A^{k-j-1}cr
}$$

Define $w = (A^kx-y)$ and $B=A^T,,$ then find the gradient (first derivative)
$$eqalign{
phi &= tfrac{1}{2}|w|^2_2 = w:w cr
dphi &= 2w:dw = 2w:dA^kx = 2wx^T:dA^k cr
&= sum_{j=0}^{k-1} 2wx^T:A^{j},dA,A^{k-j-1} cr
&= sum_{j=0}^{k-1} 2B^{j}wx^TB^{k-j-1}:dA cr
G=frac{partialphi}{partial A} &= sum_{j=0}^{k-1} 2B^{j}wx^TB^{k-j-1} cr
}$$
where a colon denotes the trace/Frobenius product, i.e. $M:P={rm Tr}(M^TP)$



Note that the gradient is a matrix. That means that the Hessian (second derivative) will be a fourth-order tensor -- which is the reason why the website won't try to calculate it.



In order to calculate the Hessian, the $w$ and $B^i=(A^T)^i$ terms must be differentiated leading to a complicated double summation. Start by finding the differential of the gradient.
$$eqalign{
dG
&= 2sum_{j=0}^{k-1} &dB^{j}wx^TB^{k-j-1}+B^{j}dA^kxx^TB^{k-j-1}+B^{j}wx^TdB^{k-j-1} cr
&= 2sum_{j=0}^{k-1}Bigg(&sum_{i=0}^{j-1}B^{i},dB,B^{j-i-1}wx^TB^{k-j-1}
+ sum_{i=0}^{k-1}B^{j}A^{i},dA,A^{k-i-1}xx^TB^{k-j-1} cr
&,&+ sum_{i=0}^{k-j-2}B^{j}wx^TB^{i},dB,B^{j-i-1}
Bigg) cr
}$$

At this point you can use vectorization to flatten the matrices into vectors and calculate the Hessian as the matrix, i.e.
$$g={rm vec}(G),,,,a={rm vec}(A) implies H=frac{partial g}{partial a}$$
Or you can find the Hessian in tensor form using index notation.



Or perhaps the differential expression is sufficient for whatever purpose you have in mind.






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    This is great! Thank you! I will go through this and try to understand it more deeply. I bet I can formulate the inequality for the Lipschitz constant in terms of the differential expression: $lVert nabla phi(w_0) - nabla phi(w_1) rVert_2 leq L lVert w_0 - w_1 rVert_2$
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$begingroup$

The tricky part is the differential
$$eqalign{
dA^k &= sum_{j=0}^{k-1} A^{j},dA,A^{k-j-1}cr
}$$

Define $w = (A^kx-y)$ and $B=A^T,,$ then find the gradient (first derivative)
$$eqalign{
phi &= tfrac{1}{2}|w|^2_2 = w:w cr
dphi &= 2w:dw = 2w:dA^kx = 2wx^T:dA^k cr
&= sum_{j=0}^{k-1} 2wx^T:A^{j},dA,A^{k-j-1} cr
&= sum_{j=0}^{k-1} 2B^{j}wx^TB^{k-j-1}:dA cr
G=frac{partialphi}{partial A} &= sum_{j=0}^{k-1} 2B^{j}wx^TB^{k-j-1} cr
}$$
where a colon denotes the trace/Frobenius product, i.e. $M:P={rm Tr}(M^TP)$



Note that the gradient is a matrix. That means that the Hessian (second derivative) will be a fourth-order tensor -- which is the reason why the website won't try to calculate it.



In order to calculate the Hessian, the $w$ and $B^i=(A^T)^i$ terms must be differentiated leading to a complicated double summation. Start by finding the differential of the gradient.
$$eqalign{
dG
&= 2sum_{j=0}^{k-1} &dB^{j}wx^TB^{k-j-1}+B^{j}dA^kxx^TB^{k-j-1}+B^{j}wx^TdB^{k-j-1} cr
&= 2sum_{j=0}^{k-1}Bigg(&sum_{i=0}^{j-1}B^{i},dB,B^{j-i-1}wx^TB^{k-j-1}
+ sum_{i=0}^{k-1}B^{j}A^{i},dA,A^{k-i-1}xx^TB^{k-j-1} cr
&,&+ sum_{i=0}^{k-j-2}B^{j}wx^TB^{i},dB,B^{j-i-1}
Bigg) cr
}$$

At this point you can use vectorization to flatten the matrices into vectors and calculate the Hessian as the matrix, i.e.
$$g={rm vec}(G),,,,a={rm vec}(A) implies H=frac{partial g}{partial a}$$
Or you can find the Hessian in tensor form using index notation.



Or perhaps the differential expression is sufficient for whatever purpose you have in mind.






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  • $begingroup$
    This is great! Thank you! I will go through this and try to understand it more deeply. I bet I can formulate the inequality for the Lipschitz constant in terms of the differential expression: $lVert nabla phi(w_0) - nabla phi(w_1) rVert_2 leq L lVert w_0 - w_1 rVert_2$
    $endgroup$
    – Robert
    Dec 11 '18 at 18:45


















1












$begingroup$

The tricky part is the differential
$$eqalign{
dA^k &= sum_{j=0}^{k-1} A^{j},dA,A^{k-j-1}cr
}$$

Define $w = (A^kx-y)$ and $B=A^T,,$ then find the gradient (first derivative)
$$eqalign{
phi &= tfrac{1}{2}|w|^2_2 = w:w cr
dphi &= 2w:dw = 2w:dA^kx = 2wx^T:dA^k cr
&= sum_{j=0}^{k-1} 2wx^T:A^{j},dA,A^{k-j-1} cr
&= sum_{j=0}^{k-1} 2B^{j}wx^TB^{k-j-1}:dA cr
G=frac{partialphi}{partial A} &= sum_{j=0}^{k-1} 2B^{j}wx^TB^{k-j-1} cr
}$$
where a colon denotes the trace/Frobenius product, i.e. $M:P={rm Tr}(M^TP)$



Note that the gradient is a matrix. That means that the Hessian (second derivative) will be a fourth-order tensor -- which is the reason why the website won't try to calculate it.



In order to calculate the Hessian, the $w$ and $B^i=(A^T)^i$ terms must be differentiated leading to a complicated double summation. Start by finding the differential of the gradient.
$$eqalign{
dG
&= 2sum_{j=0}^{k-1} &dB^{j}wx^TB^{k-j-1}+B^{j}dA^kxx^TB^{k-j-1}+B^{j}wx^TdB^{k-j-1} cr
&= 2sum_{j=0}^{k-1}Bigg(&sum_{i=0}^{j-1}B^{i},dB,B^{j-i-1}wx^TB^{k-j-1}
+ sum_{i=0}^{k-1}B^{j}A^{i},dA,A^{k-i-1}xx^TB^{k-j-1} cr
&,&+ sum_{i=0}^{k-j-2}B^{j}wx^TB^{i},dB,B^{j-i-1}
Bigg) cr
}$$

At this point you can use vectorization to flatten the matrices into vectors and calculate the Hessian as the matrix, i.e.
$$g={rm vec}(G),,,,a={rm vec}(A) implies H=frac{partial g}{partial a}$$
Or you can find the Hessian in tensor form using index notation.



Or perhaps the differential expression is sufficient for whatever purpose you have in mind.






share|cite|improve this answer











$endgroup$













  • $begingroup$
    This is great! Thank you! I will go through this and try to understand it more deeply. I bet I can formulate the inequality for the Lipschitz constant in terms of the differential expression: $lVert nabla phi(w_0) - nabla phi(w_1) rVert_2 leq L lVert w_0 - w_1 rVert_2$
    $endgroup$
    – Robert
    Dec 11 '18 at 18:45
















1












1








1





$begingroup$

The tricky part is the differential
$$eqalign{
dA^k &= sum_{j=0}^{k-1} A^{j},dA,A^{k-j-1}cr
}$$

Define $w = (A^kx-y)$ and $B=A^T,,$ then find the gradient (first derivative)
$$eqalign{
phi &= tfrac{1}{2}|w|^2_2 = w:w cr
dphi &= 2w:dw = 2w:dA^kx = 2wx^T:dA^k cr
&= sum_{j=0}^{k-1} 2wx^T:A^{j},dA,A^{k-j-1} cr
&= sum_{j=0}^{k-1} 2B^{j}wx^TB^{k-j-1}:dA cr
G=frac{partialphi}{partial A} &= sum_{j=0}^{k-1} 2B^{j}wx^TB^{k-j-1} cr
}$$
where a colon denotes the trace/Frobenius product, i.e. $M:P={rm Tr}(M^TP)$



Note that the gradient is a matrix. That means that the Hessian (second derivative) will be a fourth-order tensor -- which is the reason why the website won't try to calculate it.



In order to calculate the Hessian, the $w$ and $B^i=(A^T)^i$ terms must be differentiated leading to a complicated double summation. Start by finding the differential of the gradient.
$$eqalign{
dG
&= 2sum_{j=0}^{k-1} &dB^{j}wx^TB^{k-j-1}+B^{j}dA^kxx^TB^{k-j-1}+B^{j}wx^TdB^{k-j-1} cr
&= 2sum_{j=0}^{k-1}Bigg(&sum_{i=0}^{j-1}B^{i},dB,B^{j-i-1}wx^TB^{k-j-1}
+ sum_{i=0}^{k-1}B^{j}A^{i},dA,A^{k-i-1}xx^TB^{k-j-1} cr
&,&+ sum_{i=0}^{k-j-2}B^{j}wx^TB^{i},dB,B^{j-i-1}
Bigg) cr
}$$

At this point you can use vectorization to flatten the matrices into vectors and calculate the Hessian as the matrix, i.e.
$$g={rm vec}(G),,,,a={rm vec}(A) implies H=frac{partial g}{partial a}$$
Or you can find the Hessian in tensor form using index notation.



Or perhaps the differential expression is sufficient for whatever purpose you have in mind.






share|cite|improve this answer











$endgroup$



The tricky part is the differential
$$eqalign{
dA^k &= sum_{j=0}^{k-1} A^{j},dA,A^{k-j-1}cr
}$$

Define $w = (A^kx-y)$ and $B=A^T,,$ then find the gradient (first derivative)
$$eqalign{
phi &= tfrac{1}{2}|w|^2_2 = w:w cr
dphi &= 2w:dw = 2w:dA^kx = 2wx^T:dA^k cr
&= sum_{j=0}^{k-1} 2wx^T:A^{j},dA,A^{k-j-1} cr
&= sum_{j=0}^{k-1} 2B^{j}wx^TB^{k-j-1}:dA cr
G=frac{partialphi}{partial A} &= sum_{j=0}^{k-1} 2B^{j}wx^TB^{k-j-1} cr
}$$
where a colon denotes the trace/Frobenius product, i.e. $M:P={rm Tr}(M^TP)$



Note that the gradient is a matrix. That means that the Hessian (second derivative) will be a fourth-order tensor -- which is the reason why the website won't try to calculate it.



In order to calculate the Hessian, the $w$ and $B^i=(A^T)^i$ terms must be differentiated leading to a complicated double summation. Start by finding the differential of the gradient.
$$eqalign{
dG
&= 2sum_{j=0}^{k-1} &dB^{j}wx^TB^{k-j-1}+B^{j}dA^kxx^TB^{k-j-1}+B^{j}wx^TdB^{k-j-1} cr
&= 2sum_{j=0}^{k-1}Bigg(&sum_{i=0}^{j-1}B^{i},dB,B^{j-i-1}wx^TB^{k-j-1}
+ sum_{i=0}^{k-1}B^{j}A^{i},dA,A^{k-i-1}xx^TB^{k-j-1} cr
&,&+ sum_{i=0}^{k-j-2}B^{j}wx^TB^{i},dB,B^{j-i-1}
Bigg) cr
}$$

At this point you can use vectorization to flatten the matrices into vectors and calculate the Hessian as the matrix, i.e.
$$g={rm vec}(G),,,,a={rm vec}(A) implies H=frac{partial g}{partial a}$$
Or you can find the Hessian in tensor form using index notation.



Or perhaps the differential expression is sufficient for whatever purpose you have in mind.







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  • $begingroup$
    This is great! Thank you! I will go through this and try to understand it more deeply. I bet I can formulate the inequality for the Lipschitz constant in terms of the differential expression: $lVert nabla phi(w_0) - nabla phi(w_1) rVert_2 leq L lVert w_0 - w_1 rVert_2$
    $endgroup$
    – Robert
    Dec 11 '18 at 18:45




















  • $begingroup$
    This is great! Thank you! I will go through this and try to understand it more deeply. I bet I can formulate the inequality for the Lipschitz constant in terms of the differential expression: $lVert nabla phi(w_0) - nabla phi(w_1) rVert_2 leq L lVert w_0 - w_1 rVert_2$
    $endgroup$
    – Robert
    Dec 11 '18 at 18:45


















$begingroup$
This is great! Thank you! I will go through this and try to understand it more deeply. I bet I can formulate the inequality for the Lipschitz constant in terms of the differential expression: $lVert nabla phi(w_0) - nabla phi(w_1) rVert_2 leq L lVert w_0 - w_1 rVert_2$
$endgroup$
– Robert
Dec 11 '18 at 18:45






$begingroup$
This is great! Thank you! I will go through this and try to understand it more deeply. I bet I can formulate the inequality for the Lipschitz constant in terms of the differential expression: $lVert nabla phi(w_0) - nabla phi(w_1) rVert_2 leq L lVert w_0 - w_1 rVert_2$
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– Robert
Dec 11 '18 at 18:45




















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