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As title, how do you find the reminder of $2^{62}$ with 85?



Since (85,2) = 1, from FLT I know that $2^{84} equiv 1 mod(85)$, but after this I don't know how to proceed because 62 < 85 and I don't know how to use this theorem.










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    Probably easiest to solve it $pmod 5$ and $pmod {17}$, and then use the Chinese Remainder Theorem.
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    How about considering that $a^{phi (n)} equiv 1 pmod n$ when $gcd (a,n)=1?$
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As title, how do you find the reminder of $2^{62}$ with 85?



Since (85,2) = 1, from FLT I know that $2^{84} equiv 1 mod(85)$, but after this I don't know how to proceed because 62 < 85 and I don't know how to use this theorem.










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    Probably easiest to solve it $pmod 5$ and $pmod {17}$, and then use the Chinese Remainder Theorem.
    – lulu
    Nov 26 '18 at 14:01






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    How about considering that $a^{phi (n)} equiv 1 pmod n$ when $gcd (a,n)=1?$
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    Nov 26 '18 at 14:09














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As title, how do you find the reminder of $2^{62}$ with 85?



Since (85,2) = 1, from FLT I know that $2^{84} equiv 1 mod(85)$, but after this I don't know how to proceed because 62 < 85 and I don't know how to use this theorem.










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As title, how do you find the reminder of $2^{62}$ with 85?



Since (85,2) = 1, from FLT I know that $2^{84} equiv 1 mod(85)$, but after this I don't know how to proceed because 62 < 85 and I don't know how to use this theorem.





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marked as duplicate by Jyrki Lahtonen, Brahadeesh, José Carlos Santos, amWhy, Lord_Farin Nov 28 '18 at 22:19


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  • 2




    Probably easiest to solve it $pmod 5$ and $pmod {17}$, and then use the Chinese Remainder Theorem.
    – lulu
    Nov 26 '18 at 14:01






  • 1




    How about considering that $a^{phi (n)} equiv 1 pmod n$ when $gcd (a,n)=1?$
    – Mohammad Zuhair Khan
    Nov 26 '18 at 14:09














  • 2




    Probably easiest to solve it $pmod 5$ and $pmod {17}$, and then use the Chinese Remainder Theorem.
    – lulu
    Nov 26 '18 at 14:01






  • 1




    How about considering that $a^{phi (n)} equiv 1 pmod n$ when $gcd (a,n)=1?$
    – Mohammad Zuhair Khan
    Nov 26 '18 at 14:09








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Probably easiest to solve it $pmod 5$ and $pmod {17}$, and then use the Chinese Remainder Theorem.
– lulu
Nov 26 '18 at 14:01




Probably easiest to solve it $pmod 5$ and $pmod {17}$, and then use the Chinese Remainder Theorem.
– lulu
Nov 26 '18 at 14:01




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How about considering that $a^{phi (n)} equiv 1 pmod n$ when $gcd (a,n)=1?$
– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
Nov 26 '18 at 14:09




How about considering that $a^{phi (n)} equiv 1 pmod n$ when $gcd (a,n)=1?$
– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
Nov 26 '18 at 14:09










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$2^{84}$ is actually equal to $16$ mod $85$.



$85$ is not prime, so you need Euler's Theorem, not Fermat's. This says that if $n$ and $a$ are co-prime, then $a^{varphi(n)}equiv 1$ mod $n$, where $varphi(n)$ is the number of integers between $1$ and $n-1$ that are relatively prime to $n$. Note that if $n$ is prime, then $varphi(n)=n-1$, which gives us Fermat's Little Theorem.



If $n=pq$ is a product of two primes, then $varphi(n)=(p-1)(q-1)$ (this is the basis of RSA cryptography). So we have $varphi(85)=4cdot 16=64$, which means that $2^{64}equiv 1$ mod $85$.



So $2^{62}equiv 1/4$ mod $85$. And $4cdot 64equiv 1$ mod $85$, so $1/4equiv 64$ mod $85$.






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    $85$ is not prime, FLT is not applicable directly



    Use http://mathworld.wolfram.com/CarmichaelFunction.html



    $lambda(85)=16$



    $implies2^{64}equiv1^4pmod{85}$



    $implies2^{62}equiv2^{-2}equiv-21equiv-21+85$



    as $-21cdot4equiv1pmod{85}$






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      As noticed we can't apply FLT, to solve by elementary methods note that



      $$2^{8}=256 equiv 1 pmod{85}$$



      then



      $$2^{62} equiv 2^{7cdot 8}cdot 2^{6}equiv 2^{6}equiv 64 equiv -21 pmod{85}$$






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        $begin{align}{rm Note}qquad
        85 &= 4^{large 3}!+4^{large 2}!+4+1\
        Rightarrow (4!-!1)85 &= 4^{large 4}-1 Rightarrow color{#c00}{4^{large 4}equiv 1}!!!pmod{!85}end{align}$



        So $bmod 85!:, 2^{large 62}equiv 4^{large 31}equiv 4^{large 3}(color{#c00}{4^{large 4}})^{large 7}equiv 4^{large 3} color{#c00}1^{large 7}equiv 64$





        $begin{align}{bf Or}qquadqquad
        85&= (16!+!1)cdot 5\
        Rightarrow 85cdot 3 &= (16!+!1)(16!-!1) = 16^{large 2}-1,Rightarrow,color{#c00}{16^2equiv 1}pmod{!85}
        end{align}$






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          $2^{84}$ is actually equal to $16$ mod $85$.



          $85$ is not prime, so you need Euler's Theorem, not Fermat's. This says that if $n$ and $a$ are co-prime, then $a^{varphi(n)}equiv 1$ mod $n$, where $varphi(n)$ is the number of integers between $1$ and $n-1$ that are relatively prime to $n$. Note that if $n$ is prime, then $varphi(n)=n-1$, which gives us Fermat's Little Theorem.



          If $n=pq$ is a product of two primes, then $varphi(n)=(p-1)(q-1)$ (this is the basis of RSA cryptography). So we have $varphi(85)=4cdot 16=64$, which means that $2^{64}equiv 1$ mod $85$.



          So $2^{62}equiv 1/4$ mod $85$. And $4cdot 64equiv 1$ mod $85$, so $1/4equiv 64$ mod $85$.






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            $2^{84}$ is actually equal to $16$ mod $85$.



            $85$ is not prime, so you need Euler's Theorem, not Fermat's. This says that if $n$ and $a$ are co-prime, then $a^{varphi(n)}equiv 1$ mod $n$, where $varphi(n)$ is the number of integers between $1$ and $n-1$ that are relatively prime to $n$. Note that if $n$ is prime, then $varphi(n)=n-1$, which gives us Fermat's Little Theorem.



            If $n=pq$ is a product of two primes, then $varphi(n)=(p-1)(q-1)$ (this is the basis of RSA cryptography). So we have $varphi(85)=4cdot 16=64$, which means that $2^{64}equiv 1$ mod $85$.



            So $2^{62}equiv 1/4$ mod $85$. And $4cdot 64equiv 1$ mod $85$, so $1/4equiv 64$ mod $85$.






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              $2^{84}$ is actually equal to $16$ mod $85$.



              $85$ is not prime, so you need Euler's Theorem, not Fermat's. This says that if $n$ and $a$ are co-prime, then $a^{varphi(n)}equiv 1$ mod $n$, where $varphi(n)$ is the number of integers between $1$ and $n-1$ that are relatively prime to $n$. Note that if $n$ is prime, then $varphi(n)=n-1$, which gives us Fermat's Little Theorem.



              If $n=pq$ is a product of two primes, then $varphi(n)=(p-1)(q-1)$ (this is the basis of RSA cryptography). So we have $varphi(85)=4cdot 16=64$, which means that $2^{64}equiv 1$ mod $85$.



              So $2^{62}equiv 1/4$ mod $85$. And $4cdot 64equiv 1$ mod $85$, so $1/4equiv 64$ mod $85$.






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              $2^{84}$ is actually equal to $16$ mod $85$.



              $85$ is not prime, so you need Euler's Theorem, not Fermat's. This says that if $n$ and $a$ are co-prime, then $a^{varphi(n)}equiv 1$ mod $n$, where $varphi(n)$ is the number of integers between $1$ and $n-1$ that are relatively prime to $n$. Note that if $n$ is prime, then $varphi(n)=n-1$, which gives us Fermat's Little Theorem.



              If $n=pq$ is a product of two primes, then $varphi(n)=(p-1)(q-1)$ (this is the basis of RSA cryptography). So we have $varphi(85)=4cdot 16=64$, which means that $2^{64}equiv 1$ mod $85$.



              So $2^{62}equiv 1/4$ mod $85$. And $4cdot 64equiv 1$ mod $85$, so $1/4equiv 64$ mod $85$.







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                  $85$ is not prime, FLT is not applicable directly



                  Use http://mathworld.wolfram.com/CarmichaelFunction.html



                  $lambda(85)=16$



                  $implies2^{64}equiv1^4pmod{85}$



                  $implies2^{62}equiv2^{-2}equiv-21equiv-21+85$



                  as $-21cdot4equiv1pmod{85}$






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                    $85$ is not prime, FLT is not applicable directly



                    Use http://mathworld.wolfram.com/CarmichaelFunction.html



                    $lambda(85)=16$



                    $implies2^{64}equiv1^4pmod{85}$



                    $implies2^{62}equiv2^{-2}equiv-21equiv-21+85$



                    as $-21cdot4equiv1pmod{85}$






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                      $85$ is not prime, FLT is not applicable directly



                      Use http://mathworld.wolfram.com/CarmichaelFunction.html



                      $lambda(85)=16$



                      $implies2^{64}equiv1^4pmod{85}$



                      $implies2^{62}equiv2^{-2}equiv-21equiv-21+85$



                      as $-21cdot4equiv1pmod{85}$






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                      $85$ is not prime, FLT is not applicable directly



                      Use http://mathworld.wolfram.com/CarmichaelFunction.html



                      $lambda(85)=16$



                      $implies2^{64}equiv1^4pmod{85}$



                      $implies2^{62}equiv2^{-2}equiv-21equiv-21+85$



                      as $-21cdot4equiv1pmod{85}$







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                          As noticed we can't apply FLT, to solve by elementary methods note that



                          $$2^{8}=256 equiv 1 pmod{85}$$



                          then



                          $$2^{62} equiv 2^{7cdot 8}cdot 2^{6}equiv 2^{6}equiv 64 equiv -21 pmod{85}$$






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                            As noticed we can't apply FLT, to solve by elementary methods note that



                            $$2^{8}=256 equiv 1 pmod{85}$$



                            then



                            $$2^{62} equiv 2^{7cdot 8}cdot 2^{6}equiv 2^{6}equiv 64 equiv -21 pmod{85}$$






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                              As noticed we can't apply FLT, to solve by elementary methods note that



                              $$2^{8}=256 equiv 1 pmod{85}$$



                              then



                              $$2^{62} equiv 2^{7cdot 8}cdot 2^{6}equiv 2^{6}equiv 64 equiv -21 pmod{85}$$






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                              As noticed we can't apply FLT, to solve by elementary methods note that



                              $$2^{8}=256 equiv 1 pmod{85}$$



                              then



                              $$2^{62} equiv 2^{7cdot 8}cdot 2^{6}equiv 2^{6}equiv 64 equiv -21 pmod{85}$$







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                                  $begin{align}{rm Note}qquad
                                  85 &= 4^{large 3}!+4^{large 2}!+4+1\
                                  Rightarrow (4!-!1)85 &= 4^{large 4}-1 Rightarrow color{#c00}{4^{large 4}equiv 1}!!!pmod{!85}end{align}$



                                  So $bmod 85!:, 2^{large 62}equiv 4^{large 31}equiv 4^{large 3}(color{#c00}{4^{large 4}})^{large 7}equiv 4^{large 3} color{#c00}1^{large 7}equiv 64$





                                  $begin{align}{bf Or}qquadqquad
                                  85&= (16!+!1)cdot 5\
                                  Rightarrow 85cdot 3 &= (16!+!1)(16!-!1) = 16^{large 2}-1,Rightarrow,color{#c00}{16^2equiv 1}pmod{!85}
                                  end{align}$






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                                    $begin{align}{rm Note}qquad
                                    85 &= 4^{large 3}!+4^{large 2}!+4+1\
                                    Rightarrow (4!-!1)85 &= 4^{large 4}-1 Rightarrow color{#c00}{4^{large 4}equiv 1}!!!pmod{!85}end{align}$



                                    So $bmod 85!:, 2^{large 62}equiv 4^{large 31}equiv 4^{large 3}(color{#c00}{4^{large 4}})^{large 7}equiv 4^{large 3} color{#c00}1^{large 7}equiv 64$





                                    $begin{align}{bf Or}qquadqquad
                                    85&= (16!+!1)cdot 5\
                                    Rightarrow 85cdot 3 &= (16!+!1)(16!-!1) = 16^{large 2}-1,Rightarrow,color{#c00}{16^2equiv 1}pmod{!85}
                                    end{align}$






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                                      $begin{align}{rm Note}qquad
                                      85 &= 4^{large 3}!+4^{large 2}!+4+1\
                                      Rightarrow (4!-!1)85 &= 4^{large 4}-1 Rightarrow color{#c00}{4^{large 4}equiv 1}!!!pmod{!85}end{align}$



                                      So $bmod 85!:, 2^{large 62}equiv 4^{large 31}equiv 4^{large 3}(color{#c00}{4^{large 4}})^{large 7}equiv 4^{large 3} color{#c00}1^{large 7}equiv 64$





                                      $begin{align}{bf Or}qquadqquad
                                      85&= (16!+!1)cdot 5\
                                      Rightarrow 85cdot 3 &= (16!+!1)(16!-!1) = 16^{large 2}-1,Rightarrow,color{#c00}{16^2equiv 1}pmod{!85}
                                      end{align}$






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                                      $begin{align}{rm Note}qquad
                                      85 &= 4^{large 3}!+4^{large 2}!+4+1\
                                      Rightarrow (4!-!1)85 &= 4^{large 4}-1 Rightarrow color{#c00}{4^{large 4}equiv 1}!!!pmod{!85}end{align}$



                                      So $bmod 85!:, 2^{large 62}equiv 4^{large 31}equiv 4^{large 3}(color{#c00}{4^{large 4}})^{large 7}equiv 4^{large 3} color{#c00}1^{large 7}equiv 64$





                                      $begin{align}{bf Or}qquadqquad
                                      85&= (16!+!1)cdot 5\
                                      Rightarrow 85cdot 3 &= (16!+!1)(16!-!1) = 16^{large 2}-1,Rightarrow,color{#c00}{16^2equiv 1}pmod{!85}
                                      end{align}$







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