What NEC section, if any, covers an owner wiring their own home?
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you are allowed to pull an electrical permit on your OWN residence
Can anyone tell me if there is language in the NEC to this effect and if so what is the section number?
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A question answered by Karl Katzke said:
you are allowed to pull an electrical permit on your OWN residence
Can anyone tell me if there is language in the NEC to this effect and if so what is the section number?
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In general, the NEC (or any other code for that matter) specifies how the work must be done, but does not touch on who the work must be done by. The who is covered by local statutes (whether city, county, or state). Permits and licenses are entirely state, county, or city constructs, and various jurisdictions utilize different versions of the NEC.
Fully agree+ If OP lists there location I am sure we can provide the local requirements.
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I think you're confusing NEC with licensing, where the government permits someone to sell a specific service to someone else. Many states license electrical contractors (here's California, for example) and you cannot legally do that work for hire without that license. Electrical permits are used by local governments to ensure that the local codes are being followed and that only licensed people are doing the job. Every electrical permit I've seen is aimed squarely at professionals, not homeowners.
As a homeowner working on your own property, you are generally exempt from those requirements, as long as you're working on previously existing structures (or making minor improvements). If you tear your house down and rebuild it from the ground up, the local government may or may not let you act as your own electrical contractor. Many will insist on an inspection, as well as a licensed electrical contractor signing off on it.
Most locales, however, will let you pull your own building permit.
Let me illustrate this with an anecdote. This was rural Florida so YMMV, but there's less regulation there than other places. My father-in-law built his own home, but he still had to face building inspections as well as electrical (small town but they still pay attention to new structures going up). He found a licensed electrician who was willing to let him do the work, and the electrician would simply come inspect and then set up the electrical inspection. I do not believe he could pull his own electrical permit, even as the owner/builder.
I agree with you in my neck of the woods the DFW area some municipalities but not all will let the homeowner represent himself as a contractor and allow him to pull all permits and do all of the work. However the homeowner must do all of they work himself, pass all inspections, and not hire outside help (that would be bootlegging). So if he has outside help it must be by a licensed contractor.
– Retired Master Electrician
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The first part of the first chapter covers all that stuff.
NEC 110.2 equipment in mains wiring must be approved by the local authority. All of them delegate to Underwriters Laboratories (UL) or equal. CE is not one.
NEC 110.3 requires you install according to the instructions and labeling, freestyling is a code violation. This also makes it a codevio to install random electronic components out of the Digi-Key catalog.
NEC 110.12 says all work must be done in a neat and workmanlike manner. Don't take that to extremes, e.g. nipping back "excess" length in junction boxes and panels is a serious mistake that will cost you later.
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In general, the NEC (or any other code for that matter) specifies how the work must be done, but does not touch on who the work must be done by. The who is covered by local statutes (whether city, county, or state). Permits and licenses are entirely state, county, or city constructs, and various jurisdictions utilize different versions of the NEC.
Fully agree+ If OP lists there location I am sure we can provide the local requirements.
– Ed Beal
2 hours ago
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In general, the NEC (or any other code for that matter) specifies how the work must be done, but does not touch on who the work must be done by. The who is covered by local statutes (whether city, county, or state). Permits and licenses are entirely state, county, or city constructs, and various jurisdictions utilize different versions of the NEC.
Fully agree+ If OP lists there location I am sure we can provide the local requirements.
– Ed Beal
2 hours ago
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5
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up vote
5
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In general, the NEC (or any other code for that matter) specifies how the work must be done, but does not touch on who the work must be done by. The who is covered by local statutes (whether city, county, or state). Permits and licenses are entirely state, county, or city constructs, and various jurisdictions utilize different versions of the NEC.
In general, the NEC (or any other code for that matter) specifies how the work must be done, but does not touch on who the work must be done by. The who is covered by local statutes (whether city, county, or state). Permits and licenses are entirely state, county, or city constructs, and various jurisdictions utilize different versions of the NEC.
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Fully agree+ If OP lists there location I am sure we can provide the local requirements.
– Ed Beal
2 hours ago
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Fully agree+ If OP lists there location I am sure we can provide the local requirements.
– Ed Beal
2 hours ago
Fully agree+ If OP lists there location I am sure we can provide the local requirements.
– Ed Beal
2 hours ago
Fully agree+ If OP lists there location I am sure we can provide the local requirements.
– Ed Beal
2 hours ago
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I think you're confusing NEC with licensing, where the government permits someone to sell a specific service to someone else. Many states license electrical contractors (here's California, for example) and you cannot legally do that work for hire without that license. Electrical permits are used by local governments to ensure that the local codes are being followed and that only licensed people are doing the job. Every electrical permit I've seen is aimed squarely at professionals, not homeowners.
As a homeowner working on your own property, you are generally exempt from those requirements, as long as you're working on previously existing structures (or making minor improvements). If you tear your house down and rebuild it from the ground up, the local government may or may not let you act as your own electrical contractor. Many will insist on an inspection, as well as a licensed electrical contractor signing off on it.
Most locales, however, will let you pull your own building permit.
Let me illustrate this with an anecdote. This was rural Florida so YMMV, but there's less regulation there than other places. My father-in-law built his own home, but he still had to face building inspections as well as electrical (small town but they still pay attention to new structures going up). He found a licensed electrician who was willing to let him do the work, and the electrician would simply come inspect and then set up the electrical inspection. I do not believe he could pull his own electrical permit, even as the owner/builder.
I agree with you in my neck of the woods the DFW area some municipalities but not all will let the homeowner represent himself as a contractor and allow him to pull all permits and do all of the work. However the homeowner must do all of they work himself, pass all inspections, and not hire outside help (that would be bootlegging). So if he has outside help it must be by a licensed contractor.
– Retired Master Electrician
46 mins ago
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up vote
1
down vote
I think you're confusing NEC with licensing, where the government permits someone to sell a specific service to someone else. Many states license electrical contractors (here's California, for example) and you cannot legally do that work for hire without that license. Electrical permits are used by local governments to ensure that the local codes are being followed and that only licensed people are doing the job. Every electrical permit I've seen is aimed squarely at professionals, not homeowners.
As a homeowner working on your own property, you are generally exempt from those requirements, as long as you're working on previously existing structures (or making minor improvements). If you tear your house down and rebuild it from the ground up, the local government may or may not let you act as your own electrical contractor. Many will insist on an inspection, as well as a licensed electrical contractor signing off on it.
Most locales, however, will let you pull your own building permit.
Let me illustrate this with an anecdote. This was rural Florida so YMMV, but there's less regulation there than other places. My father-in-law built his own home, but he still had to face building inspections as well as electrical (small town but they still pay attention to new structures going up). He found a licensed electrician who was willing to let him do the work, and the electrician would simply come inspect and then set up the electrical inspection. I do not believe he could pull his own electrical permit, even as the owner/builder.
I agree with you in my neck of the woods the DFW area some municipalities but not all will let the homeowner represent himself as a contractor and allow him to pull all permits and do all of the work. However the homeowner must do all of they work himself, pass all inspections, and not hire outside help (that would be bootlegging). So if he has outside help it must be by a licensed contractor.
– Retired Master Electrician
46 mins ago
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up vote
1
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up vote
1
down vote
I think you're confusing NEC with licensing, where the government permits someone to sell a specific service to someone else. Many states license electrical contractors (here's California, for example) and you cannot legally do that work for hire without that license. Electrical permits are used by local governments to ensure that the local codes are being followed and that only licensed people are doing the job. Every electrical permit I've seen is aimed squarely at professionals, not homeowners.
As a homeowner working on your own property, you are generally exempt from those requirements, as long as you're working on previously existing structures (or making minor improvements). If you tear your house down and rebuild it from the ground up, the local government may or may not let you act as your own electrical contractor. Many will insist on an inspection, as well as a licensed electrical contractor signing off on it.
Most locales, however, will let you pull your own building permit.
Let me illustrate this with an anecdote. This was rural Florida so YMMV, but there's less regulation there than other places. My father-in-law built his own home, but he still had to face building inspections as well as electrical (small town but they still pay attention to new structures going up). He found a licensed electrician who was willing to let him do the work, and the electrician would simply come inspect and then set up the electrical inspection. I do not believe he could pull his own electrical permit, even as the owner/builder.
I think you're confusing NEC with licensing, where the government permits someone to sell a specific service to someone else. Many states license electrical contractors (here's California, for example) and you cannot legally do that work for hire without that license. Electrical permits are used by local governments to ensure that the local codes are being followed and that only licensed people are doing the job. Every electrical permit I've seen is aimed squarely at professionals, not homeowners.
As a homeowner working on your own property, you are generally exempt from those requirements, as long as you're working on previously existing structures (or making minor improvements). If you tear your house down and rebuild it from the ground up, the local government may or may not let you act as your own electrical contractor. Many will insist on an inspection, as well as a licensed electrical contractor signing off on it.
Most locales, however, will let you pull your own building permit.
Let me illustrate this with an anecdote. This was rural Florida so YMMV, but there's less regulation there than other places. My father-in-law built his own home, but he still had to face building inspections as well as electrical (small town but they still pay attention to new structures going up). He found a licensed electrician who was willing to let him do the work, and the electrician would simply come inspect and then set up the electrical inspection. I do not believe he could pull his own electrical permit, even as the owner/builder.
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I agree with you in my neck of the woods the DFW area some municipalities but not all will let the homeowner represent himself as a contractor and allow him to pull all permits and do all of the work. However the homeowner must do all of they work himself, pass all inspections, and not hire outside help (that would be bootlegging). So if he has outside help it must be by a licensed contractor.
– Retired Master Electrician
46 mins ago
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I agree with you in my neck of the woods the DFW area some municipalities but not all will let the homeowner represent himself as a contractor and allow him to pull all permits and do all of the work. However the homeowner must do all of they work himself, pass all inspections, and not hire outside help (that would be bootlegging). So if he has outside help it must be by a licensed contractor.
– Retired Master Electrician
46 mins ago
I agree with you in my neck of the woods the DFW area some municipalities but not all will let the homeowner represent himself as a contractor and allow him to pull all permits and do all of the work. However the homeowner must do all of they work himself, pass all inspections, and not hire outside help (that would be bootlegging). So if he has outside help it must be by a licensed contractor.
– Retired Master Electrician
46 mins ago
I agree with you in my neck of the woods the DFW area some municipalities but not all will let the homeowner represent himself as a contractor and allow him to pull all permits and do all of the work. However the homeowner must do all of they work himself, pass all inspections, and not hire outside help (that would be bootlegging). So if he has outside help it must be by a licensed contractor.
– Retired Master Electrician
46 mins ago
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The first part of the first chapter covers all that stuff.
NEC 110.2 equipment in mains wiring must be approved by the local authority. All of them delegate to Underwriters Laboratories (UL) or equal. CE is not one.
NEC 110.3 requires you install according to the instructions and labeling, freestyling is a code violation. This also makes it a codevio to install random electronic components out of the Digi-Key catalog.
NEC 110.12 says all work must be done in a neat and workmanlike manner. Don't take that to extremes, e.g. nipping back "excess" length in junction boxes and panels is a serious mistake that will cost you later.
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The first part of the first chapter covers all that stuff.
NEC 110.2 equipment in mains wiring must be approved by the local authority. All of them delegate to Underwriters Laboratories (UL) or equal. CE is not one.
NEC 110.3 requires you install according to the instructions and labeling, freestyling is a code violation. This also makes it a codevio to install random electronic components out of the Digi-Key catalog.
NEC 110.12 says all work must be done in a neat and workmanlike manner. Don't take that to extremes, e.g. nipping back "excess" length in junction boxes and panels is a serious mistake that will cost you later.
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The first part of the first chapter covers all that stuff.
NEC 110.2 equipment in mains wiring must be approved by the local authority. All of them delegate to Underwriters Laboratories (UL) or equal. CE is not one.
NEC 110.3 requires you install according to the instructions and labeling, freestyling is a code violation. This also makes it a codevio to install random electronic components out of the Digi-Key catalog.
NEC 110.12 says all work must be done in a neat and workmanlike manner. Don't take that to extremes, e.g. nipping back "excess" length in junction boxes and panels is a serious mistake that will cost you later.
The first part of the first chapter covers all that stuff.
NEC 110.2 equipment in mains wiring must be approved by the local authority. All of them delegate to Underwriters Laboratories (UL) or equal. CE is not one.
NEC 110.3 requires you install according to the instructions and labeling, freestyling is a code violation. This also makes it a codevio to install random electronic components out of the Digi-Key catalog.
NEC 110.12 says all work must be done in a neat and workmanlike manner. Don't take that to extremes, e.g. nipping back "excess" length in junction boxes and panels is a serious mistake that will cost you later.
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