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I was looking to implicitly differentiate $$-22x^6+4x^{33}y+y^7=-17$$
and found it to be $$dfrac{dy}{dx}=dfrac{132x^5-132x^{32}y}{4x^{33}+7y^6}$$Now, I am trying to find the equation of the tangent line to the curve at the coordinate (1,1). So I then plug both 1 in for x and y into the above equation and come up with $$dfrac{0}{11}$$Now I go to solve $$y-y1=m(x-x1)$$ getting $$y-1=0(x-1)$$
resulting in $y=1$ and the equation to be $y=x+1$ for my final answer. Am I going about this in the correct manner?










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    You start with $-22x^6 + 4x^{33}y + y^7 = -17$. Then you take (implicit) derivatives. What you wrote isn't that, and is not what you mean. What you wrote is that you started with the differential equation $y'-22x^6+4x^{33}y + y^7 = -17$.
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    I follow your work to get $y=1$ why do you say $y =x+1$? You have shown that the slope is $0$!
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I was looking to implicitly differentiate $$-22x^6+4x^{33}y+y^7=-17$$
and found it to be $$dfrac{dy}{dx}=dfrac{132x^5-132x^{32}y}{4x^{33}+7y^6}$$Now, I am trying to find the equation of the tangent line to the curve at the coordinate (1,1). So I then plug both 1 in for x and y into the above equation and come up with $$dfrac{0}{11}$$Now I go to solve $$y-y1=m(x-x1)$$ getting $$y-1=0(x-1)$$
resulting in $y=1$ and the equation to be $y=x+1$ for my final answer. Am I going about this in the correct manner?










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  • $begingroup$
    You start with $-22x^6 + 4x^{33}y + y^7 = -17$. Then you take (implicit) derivatives. What you wrote isn't that, and is not what you mean. What you wrote is that you started with the differential equation $y'-22x^6+4x^{33}y + y^7 = -17$.
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    – Arturo Magidin
    Dec 11 '18 at 21:04






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    $begingroup$
    I follow your work to get $y=1$ why do you say $y =x+1$? You have shown that the slope is $0$!
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    – Doug M
    Dec 11 '18 at 21:20














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I was looking to implicitly differentiate $$-22x^6+4x^{33}y+y^7=-17$$
and found it to be $$dfrac{dy}{dx}=dfrac{132x^5-132x^{32}y}{4x^{33}+7y^6}$$Now, I am trying to find the equation of the tangent line to the curve at the coordinate (1,1). So I then plug both 1 in for x and y into the above equation and come up with $$dfrac{0}{11}$$Now I go to solve $$y-y1=m(x-x1)$$ getting $$y-1=0(x-1)$$
resulting in $y=1$ and the equation to be $y=x+1$ for my final answer. Am I going about this in the correct manner?










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I was looking to implicitly differentiate $$-22x^6+4x^{33}y+y^7=-17$$
and found it to be $$dfrac{dy}{dx}=dfrac{132x^5-132x^{32}y}{4x^{33}+7y^6}$$Now, I am trying to find the equation of the tangent line to the curve at the coordinate (1,1). So I then plug both 1 in for x and y into the above equation and come up with $$dfrac{0}{11}$$Now I go to solve $$y-y1=m(x-x1)$$ getting $$y-1=0(x-1)$$
resulting in $y=1$ and the equation to be $y=x+1$ for my final answer. Am I going about this in the correct manner?







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  • $begingroup$
    You start with $-22x^6 + 4x^{33}y + y^7 = -17$. Then you take (implicit) derivatives. What you wrote isn't that, and is not what you mean. What you wrote is that you started with the differential equation $y'-22x^6+4x^{33}y + y^7 = -17$.
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    – Arturo Magidin
    Dec 11 '18 at 21:04






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    $begingroup$
    I follow your work to get $y=1$ why do you say $y =x+1$? You have shown that the slope is $0$!
    $endgroup$
    – Doug M
    Dec 11 '18 at 21:20


















  • $begingroup$
    You start with $-22x^6 + 4x^{33}y + y^7 = -17$. Then you take (implicit) derivatives. What you wrote isn't that, and is not what you mean. What you wrote is that you started with the differential equation $y'-22x^6+4x^{33}y + y^7 = -17$.
    $endgroup$
    – Arturo Magidin
    Dec 11 '18 at 21:04






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I follow your work to get $y=1$ why do you say $y =x+1$? You have shown that the slope is $0$!
    $endgroup$
    – Doug M
    Dec 11 '18 at 21:20
















$begingroup$
You start with $-22x^6 + 4x^{33}y + y^7 = -17$. Then you take (implicit) derivatives. What you wrote isn't that, and is not what you mean. What you wrote is that you started with the differential equation $y'-22x^6+4x^{33}y + y^7 = -17$.
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– Arturo Magidin
Dec 11 '18 at 21:04




$begingroup$
You start with $-22x^6 + 4x^{33}y + y^7 = -17$. Then you take (implicit) derivatives. What you wrote isn't that, and is not what you mean. What you wrote is that you started with the differential equation $y'-22x^6+4x^{33}y + y^7 = -17$.
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– Arturo Magidin
Dec 11 '18 at 21:04




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I follow your work to get $y=1$ why do you say $y =x+1$? You have shown that the slope is $0$!
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– Doug M
Dec 11 '18 at 21:20




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I follow your work to get $y=1$ why do you say $y =x+1$? You have shown that the slope is $0$!
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Your work is fine but since $m=left(frac{dy}{dx}right)_{(1,1)}=0$ we have



$$y-y_1=m(x-x_1)=0 implies y=1$$






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    You're right! I for some reason thought we had to maintain the x for the sake of the equation. Thank you.
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    @pijoborde You are welcome! Bye
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your calculations for the slope of tangent are correct. The only point that you have missed is the last step of finding the equation of tangent line which is simply $y=1$ not $y=x+1$






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    That's exactly the point!
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Your work is fine but since $m=left(frac{dy}{dx}right)_{(1,1)}=0$ we have



$$y-y_1=m(x-x_1)=0 implies y=1$$






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    You're right! I for some reason thought we had to maintain the x for the sake of the equation. Thank you.
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    @pijoborde You are welcome! Bye
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$begingroup$

Your work is fine but since $m=left(frac{dy}{dx}right)_{(1,1)}=0$ we have



$$y-y_1=m(x-x_1)=0 implies y=1$$






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    You're right! I for some reason thought we had to maintain the x for the sake of the equation. Thank you.
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    – pijoborde
    Dec 11 '18 at 21:26










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    @pijoborde You are welcome! Bye
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    – gimusi
    Dec 11 '18 at 21:27














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Your work is fine but since $m=left(frac{dy}{dx}right)_{(1,1)}=0$ we have



$$y-y_1=m(x-x_1)=0 implies y=1$$






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Your work is fine but since $m=left(frac{dy}{dx}right)_{(1,1)}=0$ we have



$$y-y_1=m(x-x_1)=0 implies y=1$$







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    You're right! I for some reason thought we had to maintain the x for the sake of the equation. Thank you.
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    @pijoborde You are welcome! Bye
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    – gimusi
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    You're right! I for some reason thought we had to maintain the x for the sake of the equation. Thank you.
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    – pijoborde
    Dec 11 '18 at 21:26










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    @pijoborde You are welcome! Bye
    $endgroup$
    – gimusi
    Dec 11 '18 at 21:27
















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You're right! I for some reason thought we had to maintain the x for the sake of the equation. Thank you.
$endgroup$
– pijoborde
Dec 11 '18 at 21:26




$begingroup$
You're right! I for some reason thought we had to maintain the x for the sake of the equation. Thank you.
$endgroup$
– pijoborde
Dec 11 '18 at 21:26












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@pijoborde You are welcome! Bye
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– gimusi
Dec 11 '18 at 21:27




$begingroup$
@pijoborde You are welcome! Bye
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– gimusi
Dec 11 '18 at 21:27











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your calculations for the slope of tangent are correct. The only point that you have missed is the last step of finding the equation of tangent line which is simply $y=1$ not $y=x+1$






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    That's exactly the point!
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your calculations for the slope of tangent are correct. The only point that you have missed is the last step of finding the equation of tangent line which is simply $y=1$ not $y=x+1$






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    That's exactly the point!
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    Dec 11 '18 at 21:27














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your calculations for the slope of tangent are correct. The only point that you have missed is the last step of finding the equation of tangent line which is simply $y=1$ not $y=x+1$






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your calculations for the slope of tangent are correct. The only point that you have missed is the last step of finding the equation of tangent line which is simply $y=1$ not $y=x+1$







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    That's exactly the point!
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    That's exactly the point!
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