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Say we have a square $ABCD$. Put points $E$ and $F$ on sides $AB$ and $BC$ respectively, so that $BE = BF$. Let $BN$ be the altitude in triangle $BCE$. What is $angle DNF$?



I'm inclined to say that it's a right angle because that's what it looks like from what I've drawn, but I have no idea how to proceed.












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    I have given an argument why your conjecture is true. I am more interested in why you looked at this problem and how you came up with this neat little conjecture.
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    If you want a purely Euclidean-geometry proof, you might start by noting the similarity of triangles $EBC$, $ENB$, and $BNC$, and then trying to prove that triangles $BNF$ and $CND$ are similar. I'm not sure exactly how the proof will go, but it feels doable.
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    @Marvis I'm in a 2nd year geometry course, and this is part of my homework due on Friday. I'm being a keener and getting it done early :) I just guessed on the right angle part.
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Say we have a square $ABCD$. Put points $E$ and $F$ on sides $AB$ and $BC$ respectively, so that $BE = BF$. Let $BN$ be the altitude in triangle $BCE$. What is $angle DNF$?



I'm inclined to say that it's a right angle because that's what it looks like from what I've drawn, but I have no idea how to proceed.












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    I have given an argument why your conjecture is true. I am more interested in why you looked at this problem and how you came up with this neat little conjecture.
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    If you want a purely Euclidean-geometry proof, you might start by noting the similarity of triangles $EBC$, $ENB$, and $BNC$, and then trying to prove that triangles $BNF$ and $CND$ are similar. I'm not sure exactly how the proof will go, but it feels doable.
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    @Marvis I'm in a 2nd year geometry course, and this is part of my homework due on Friday. I'm being a keener and getting it done early :) I just guessed on the right angle part.
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Say we have a square $ABCD$. Put points $E$ and $F$ on sides $AB$ and $BC$ respectively, so that $BE = BF$. Let $BN$ be the altitude in triangle $BCE$. What is $angle DNF$?



I'm inclined to say that it's a right angle because that's what it looks like from what I've drawn, but I have no idea how to proceed.












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Say we have a square $ABCD$. Put points $E$ and $F$ on sides $AB$ and $BC$ respectively, so that $BE = BF$. Let $BN$ be the altitude in triangle $BCE$. What is $angle DNF$?



I'm inclined to say that it's a right angle because that's what it looks like from what I've drawn, but I have no idea how to proceed.









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    I have given an argument why your conjecture is true. I am more interested in why you looked at this problem and how you came up with this neat little conjecture.
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    If you want a purely Euclidean-geometry proof, you might start by noting the similarity of triangles $EBC$, $ENB$, and $BNC$, and then trying to prove that triangles $BNF$ and $CND$ are similar. I'm not sure exactly how the proof will go, but it feels doable.
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    @Marvis I'm in a 2nd year geometry course, and this is part of my homework due on Friday. I'm being a keener and getting it done early :) I just guessed on the right angle part.
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    I have given an argument why your conjecture is true. I am more interested in why you looked at this problem and how you came up with this neat little conjecture.
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    – user17762
    Jun 5 '12 at 5:29










  • $begingroup$
    If you want a purely Euclidean-geometry proof, you might start by noting the similarity of triangles $EBC$, $ENB$, and $BNC$, and then trying to prove that triangles $BNF$ and $CND$ are similar. I'm not sure exactly how the proof will go, but it feels doable.
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    @Marvis I'm in a 2nd year geometry course, and this is part of my homework due on Friday. I'm being a keener and getting it done early :) I just guessed on the right angle part.
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I have given an argument why your conjecture is true. I am more interested in why you looked at this problem and how you came up with this neat little conjecture.
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I have given an argument why your conjecture is true. I am more interested in why you looked at this problem and how you came up with this neat little conjecture.
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– user17762
Jun 5 '12 at 5:29












$begingroup$
If you want a purely Euclidean-geometry proof, you might start by noting the similarity of triangles $EBC$, $ENB$, and $BNC$, and then trying to prove that triangles $BNF$ and $CND$ are similar. I'm not sure exactly how the proof will go, but it feels doable.
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– Rahul
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$begingroup$
If you want a purely Euclidean-geometry proof, you might start by noting the similarity of triangles $EBC$, $ENB$, and $BNC$, and then trying to prove that triangles $BNF$ and $CND$ are similar. I'm not sure exactly how the proof will go, but it feels doable.
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@Marvis I'm in a 2nd year geometry course, and this is part of my homework due on Friday. I'm being a keener and getting it done early :) I just guessed on the right angle part.
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@Marvis I'm in a 2nd year geometry course, and this is part of my homework due on Friday. I'm being a keener and getting it done early :) I just guessed on the right angle part.
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$angle DNF = 90^circ Longleftrightarrow angle BNF = angle CND$. It suffics to prove that $triangle BNF sim triangle CND$.
Well, it's trivial:
$angle NBF = angle BEC = angle NCD$ and $displaystyle frac{NB}{BF} = frac{NB}{BE} = sinangle NEB = cosangle NCB = frac{NC}{CB} = frac{NC}{CD}$. Q.E.D






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    That $NB/BE = NC/CB$ follows from the similarity of right triangles $ENB$ and $BNC$ without need for trigonometry. Nice proof!
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    @RahulNarain Trigonometry is an abbreviation of similiar triangles here because we don't use angle transformation formulas such as $sin(alpha+beta)=cdots$.
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Firstly We can write

(1) Oklid relation from $triangle CNB$



$h^2=m(k+x)$



(2) Pisagor relation from $triangle DPN$



$a^2=(x+k)^2+(x+k+m-h)^2$



(3) Pisagor relation from $triangle FRN$



$b^2=h^2+k^2$



(4) Pisagor relation from $triangle DCF$



$c^2=x^2+(x+k+m)^2$





if DNF triange is a right triangle,It must satisfy $a^2+b^2=c^2$.



$(x+k)^2+(x+k+m-h)^2+h^2+k^2=x^2+(x+k+m)^2$



$(x+k)^2+(x+k+m)^2-2h(x+k+m)+h^2+h^2+k^2=x^2+(x+k+m)^2$



$(x+k)^2-2h(x+k+m)+2h^2+k^2=x^2$



$xk+k^2-h(x+k+m)+h^2=0$



$xk+k^2-h(x+k+m)+m(k+x)=0$



$-h(x+k+m)+(k+m)(k+x)=0$



$frac{x+k}{x+k+m}=frac{h}{k+m}$



This result is equal to the rates of thales formula for similar triangles $triangle CRN sim triangle CBE$



Thus $a^2+b^2=c^2$ is correct for $triangle DNF$ .






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    Let us do it through coordinate geometry. Let $B$ be the origin. Lets fix the coordinates first. $$A = (0,a)\ B = (0,0) \ C = (a,0)\ D = (a,a)$$ Since $E$ and $F$ are equidistant from $B$, lets say $$F = (b,0)\ E = (0,b)$$ where $0 leq b leq a$. The equation of the line $CE$ is $dfrac{x}{a} + dfrac{y}{b} = 1$. The equation of $BN$ is $y = dfrac{a}{b}x$. This gives us the coordinate of $N$ as $left( dfrac{ab^2}{a^2 + b^2},dfrac{a^2b}{a^2 + b^2} right)$.



    The slope of $FN$ is $m_1 = dfrac{a^2b/(a^2+b^2) - 0}{ab^2/(a^2+b^2)-b} = dfrac{a^2}{ab - a^2 - b^2}$.



    The slope of $DN$ is $m_2 = dfrac{a^2b/(a^2+b^2) - a}{ab^2/(a^2+b^2)-a} = dfrac{ab - a^2 - b^2}{b^2 - a^2 - b^2} = - left(dfrac{ab-a^2-b^2}{a^2} right)$.



    Hence, the product of the slopes is $m_1m_2 = -1$. Hence your conjecture is indeed correct. I am waiting for someone to post a nicer geometric argument.






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      HINT: Try to resort to Homothetic transformation and you're done immediately. Another way is to connect $N$ to the middle of the $DF$ (let's call that point $M$) and prove that you have there $NM$=$DM$=$MF$ (here you may resort to Apollonius' theorem). You also could resort to the cyclic quadrilaterals as another approaching way.






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        $angle DNF = 90^circ Longleftrightarrow angle BNF = angle CND$. It suffics to prove that $triangle BNF sim triangle CND$.
        Well, it's trivial:
        $angle NBF = angle BEC = angle NCD$ and $displaystyle frac{NB}{BF} = frac{NB}{BE} = sinangle NEB = cosangle NCB = frac{NC}{CB} = frac{NC}{CD}$. Q.E.D






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          That $NB/BE = NC/CB$ follows from the similarity of right triangles $ENB$ and $BNC$ without need for trigonometry. Nice proof!
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          @RahulNarain Trigonometry is an abbreviation of similiar triangles here because we don't use angle transformation formulas such as $sin(alpha+beta)=cdots$.
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        $angle DNF = 90^circ Longleftrightarrow angle BNF = angle CND$. It suffics to prove that $triangle BNF sim triangle CND$.
        Well, it's trivial:
        $angle NBF = angle BEC = angle NCD$ and $displaystyle frac{NB}{BF} = frac{NB}{BE} = sinangle NEB = cosangle NCB = frac{NC}{CB} = frac{NC}{CD}$. Q.E.D






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          That $NB/BE = NC/CB$ follows from the similarity of right triangles $ENB$ and $BNC$ without need for trigonometry. Nice proof!
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          @RahulNarain Trigonometry is an abbreviation of similiar triangles here because we don't use angle transformation formulas such as $sin(alpha+beta)=cdots$.
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        $angle DNF = 90^circ Longleftrightarrow angle BNF = angle CND$. It suffics to prove that $triangle BNF sim triangle CND$.
        Well, it's trivial:
        $angle NBF = angle BEC = angle NCD$ and $displaystyle frac{NB}{BF} = frac{NB}{BE} = sinangle NEB = cosangle NCB = frac{NC}{CB} = frac{NC}{CD}$. Q.E.D






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        $angle DNF = 90^circ Longleftrightarrow angle BNF = angle CND$. It suffics to prove that $triangle BNF sim triangle CND$.
        Well, it's trivial:
        $angle NBF = angle BEC = angle NCD$ and $displaystyle frac{NB}{BF} = frac{NB}{BE} = sinangle NEB = cosangle NCB = frac{NC}{CB} = frac{NC}{CD}$. Q.E.D







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          That $NB/BE = NC/CB$ follows from the similarity of right triangles $ENB$ and $BNC$ without need for trigonometry. Nice proof!
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          @RahulNarain Trigonometry is an abbreviation of similiar triangles here because we don't use angle transformation formulas such as $sin(alpha+beta)=cdots$.
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          Indeed; what I meant to say was that the use of trigonometric notation is not needed. It suggests that more powerful machinery is being employed than actually is.
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          That $NB/BE = NC/CB$ follows from the similarity of right triangles $ENB$ and $BNC$ without need for trigonometry. Nice proof!
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          @RahulNarain Trigonometry is an abbreviation of similiar triangles here because we don't use angle transformation formulas such as $sin(alpha+beta)=cdots$.
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        That $NB/BE = NC/CB$ follows from the similarity of right triangles $ENB$ and $BNC$ without need for trigonometry. Nice proof!
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        $begingroup$
        That $NB/BE = NC/CB$ follows from the similarity of right triangles $ENB$ and $BNC$ without need for trigonometry. Nice proof!
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        $begingroup$
        @RahulNarain Trigonometry is an abbreviation of similiar triangles here because we don't use angle transformation formulas such as $sin(alpha+beta)=cdots$.
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        $begingroup$
        @RahulNarain Trigonometry is an abbreviation of similiar triangles here because we don't use angle transformation formulas such as $sin(alpha+beta)=cdots$.
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        Indeed; what I meant to say was that the use of trigonometric notation is not needed. It suggests that more powerful machinery is being employed than actually is.
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        Indeed; what I meant to say was that the use of trigonometric notation is not needed. It suggests that more powerful machinery is being employed than actually is.
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        Firstly We can write

        (1) Oklid relation from $triangle CNB$



        $h^2=m(k+x)$



        (2) Pisagor relation from $triangle DPN$



        $a^2=(x+k)^2+(x+k+m-h)^2$



        (3) Pisagor relation from $triangle FRN$



        $b^2=h^2+k^2$



        (4) Pisagor relation from $triangle DCF$



        $c^2=x^2+(x+k+m)^2$





        if DNF triange is a right triangle,It must satisfy $a^2+b^2=c^2$.



        $(x+k)^2+(x+k+m-h)^2+h^2+k^2=x^2+(x+k+m)^2$



        $(x+k)^2+(x+k+m)^2-2h(x+k+m)+h^2+h^2+k^2=x^2+(x+k+m)^2$



        $(x+k)^2-2h(x+k+m)+2h^2+k^2=x^2$



        $xk+k^2-h(x+k+m)+h^2=0$



        $xk+k^2-h(x+k+m)+m(k+x)=0$



        $-h(x+k+m)+(k+m)(k+x)=0$



        $frac{x+k}{x+k+m}=frac{h}{k+m}$



        This result is equal to the rates of thales formula for similar triangles $triangle CRN sim triangle CBE$



        Thus $a^2+b^2=c^2$ is correct for $triangle DNF$ .






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          Firstly We can write

          (1) Oklid relation from $triangle CNB$



          $h^2=m(k+x)$



          (2) Pisagor relation from $triangle DPN$



          $a^2=(x+k)^2+(x+k+m-h)^2$



          (3) Pisagor relation from $triangle FRN$



          $b^2=h^2+k^2$



          (4) Pisagor relation from $triangle DCF$



          $c^2=x^2+(x+k+m)^2$





          if DNF triange is a right triangle,It must satisfy $a^2+b^2=c^2$.



          $(x+k)^2+(x+k+m-h)^2+h^2+k^2=x^2+(x+k+m)^2$



          $(x+k)^2+(x+k+m)^2-2h(x+k+m)+h^2+h^2+k^2=x^2+(x+k+m)^2$



          $(x+k)^2-2h(x+k+m)+2h^2+k^2=x^2$



          $xk+k^2-h(x+k+m)+h^2=0$



          $xk+k^2-h(x+k+m)+m(k+x)=0$



          $-h(x+k+m)+(k+m)(k+x)=0$



          $frac{x+k}{x+k+m}=frac{h}{k+m}$



          This result is equal to the rates of thales formula for similar triangles $triangle CRN sim triangle CBE$



          Thus $a^2+b^2=c^2$ is correct for $triangle DNF$ .






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            Firstly We can write

            (1) Oklid relation from $triangle CNB$



            $h^2=m(k+x)$



            (2) Pisagor relation from $triangle DPN$



            $a^2=(x+k)^2+(x+k+m-h)^2$



            (3) Pisagor relation from $triangle FRN$



            $b^2=h^2+k^2$



            (4) Pisagor relation from $triangle DCF$



            $c^2=x^2+(x+k+m)^2$





            if DNF triange is a right triangle,It must satisfy $a^2+b^2=c^2$.



            $(x+k)^2+(x+k+m-h)^2+h^2+k^2=x^2+(x+k+m)^2$



            $(x+k)^2+(x+k+m)^2-2h(x+k+m)+h^2+h^2+k^2=x^2+(x+k+m)^2$



            $(x+k)^2-2h(x+k+m)+2h^2+k^2=x^2$



            $xk+k^2-h(x+k+m)+h^2=0$



            $xk+k^2-h(x+k+m)+m(k+x)=0$



            $-h(x+k+m)+(k+m)(k+x)=0$



            $frac{x+k}{x+k+m}=frac{h}{k+m}$



            This result is equal to the rates of thales formula for similar triangles $triangle CRN sim triangle CBE$



            Thus $a^2+b^2=c^2$ is correct for $triangle DNF$ .






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            enter image description here



            Firstly We can write

            (1) Oklid relation from $triangle CNB$



            $h^2=m(k+x)$



            (2) Pisagor relation from $triangle DPN$



            $a^2=(x+k)^2+(x+k+m-h)^2$



            (3) Pisagor relation from $triangle FRN$



            $b^2=h^2+k^2$



            (4) Pisagor relation from $triangle DCF$



            $c^2=x^2+(x+k+m)^2$





            if DNF triange is a right triangle,It must satisfy $a^2+b^2=c^2$.



            $(x+k)^2+(x+k+m-h)^2+h^2+k^2=x^2+(x+k+m)^2$



            $(x+k)^2+(x+k+m)^2-2h(x+k+m)+h^2+h^2+k^2=x^2+(x+k+m)^2$



            $(x+k)^2-2h(x+k+m)+2h^2+k^2=x^2$



            $xk+k^2-h(x+k+m)+h^2=0$



            $xk+k^2-h(x+k+m)+m(k+x)=0$



            $-h(x+k+m)+(k+m)(k+x)=0$



            $frac{x+k}{x+k+m}=frac{h}{k+m}$



            This result is equal to the rates of thales formula for similar triangles $triangle CRN sim triangle CBE$



            Thus $a^2+b^2=c^2$ is correct for $triangle DNF$ .







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                Let us do it through coordinate geometry. Let $B$ be the origin. Lets fix the coordinates first. $$A = (0,a)\ B = (0,0) \ C = (a,0)\ D = (a,a)$$ Since $E$ and $F$ are equidistant from $B$, lets say $$F = (b,0)\ E = (0,b)$$ where $0 leq b leq a$. The equation of the line $CE$ is $dfrac{x}{a} + dfrac{y}{b} = 1$. The equation of $BN$ is $y = dfrac{a}{b}x$. This gives us the coordinate of $N$ as $left( dfrac{ab^2}{a^2 + b^2},dfrac{a^2b}{a^2 + b^2} right)$.



                The slope of $FN$ is $m_1 = dfrac{a^2b/(a^2+b^2) - 0}{ab^2/(a^2+b^2)-b} = dfrac{a^2}{ab - a^2 - b^2}$.



                The slope of $DN$ is $m_2 = dfrac{a^2b/(a^2+b^2) - a}{ab^2/(a^2+b^2)-a} = dfrac{ab - a^2 - b^2}{b^2 - a^2 - b^2} = - left(dfrac{ab-a^2-b^2}{a^2} right)$.



                Hence, the product of the slopes is $m_1m_2 = -1$. Hence your conjecture is indeed correct. I am waiting for someone to post a nicer geometric argument.






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                  Let us do it through coordinate geometry. Let $B$ be the origin. Lets fix the coordinates first. $$A = (0,a)\ B = (0,0) \ C = (a,0)\ D = (a,a)$$ Since $E$ and $F$ are equidistant from $B$, lets say $$F = (b,0)\ E = (0,b)$$ where $0 leq b leq a$. The equation of the line $CE$ is $dfrac{x}{a} + dfrac{y}{b} = 1$. The equation of $BN$ is $y = dfrac{a}{b}x$. This gives us the coordinate of $N$ as $left( dfrac{ab^2}{a^2 + b^2},dfrac{a^2b}{a^2 + b^2} right)$.



                  The slope of $FN$ is $m_1 = dfrac{a^2b/(a^2+b^2) - 0}{ab^2/(a^2+b^2)-b} = dfrac{a^2}{ab - a^2 - b^2}$.



                  The slope of $DN$ is $m_2 = dfrac{a^2b/(a^2+b^2) - a}{ab^2/(a^2+b^2)-a} = dfrac{ab - a^2 - b^2}{b^2 - a^2 - b^2} = - left(dfrac{ab-a^2-b^2}{a^2} right)$.



                  Hence, the product of the slopes is $m_1m_2 = -1$. Hence your conjecture is indeed correct. I am waiting for someone to post a nicer geometric argument.






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                    Let us do it through coordinate geometry. Let $B$ be the origin. Lets fix the coordinates first. $$A = (0,a)\ B = (0,0) \ C = (a,0)\ D = (a,a)$$ Since $E$ and $F$ are equidistant from $B$, lets say $$F = (b,0)\ E = (0,b)$$ where $0 leq b leq a$. The equation of the line $CE$ is $dfrac{x}{a} + dfrac{y}{b} = 1$. The equation of $BN$ is $y = dfrac{a}{b}x$. This gives us the coordinate of $N$ as $left( dfrac{ab^2}{a^2 + b^2},dfrac{a^2b}{a^2 + b^2} right)$.



                    The slope of $FN$ is $m_1 = dfrac{a^2b/(a^2+b^2) - 0}{ab^2/(a^2+b^2)-b} = dfrac{a^2}{ab - a^2 - b^2}$.



                    The slope of $DN$ is $m_2 = dfrac{a^2b/(a^2+b^2) - a}{ab^2/(a^2+b^2)-a} = dfrac{ab - a^2 - b^2}{b^2 - a^2 - b^2} = - left(dfrac{ab-a^2-b^2}{a^2} right)$.



                    Hence, the product of the slopes is $m_1m_2 = -1$. Hence your conjecture is indeed correct. I am waiting for someone to post a nicer geometric argument.






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                    Let us do it through coordinate geometry. Let $B$ be the origin. Lets fix the coordinates first. $$A = (0,a)\ B = (0,0) \ C = (a,0)\ D = (a,a)$$ Since $E$ and $F$ are equidistant from $B$, lets say $$F = (b,0)\ E = (0,b)$$ where $0 leq b leq a$. The equation of the line $CE$ is $dfrac{x}{a} + dfrac{y}{b} = 1$. The equation of $BN$ is $y = dfrac{a}{b}x$. This gives us the coordinate of $N$ as $left( dfrac{ab^2}{a^2 + b^2},dfrac{a^2b}{a^2 + b^2} right)$.



                    The slope of $FN$ is $m_1 = dfrac{a^2b/(a^2+b^2) - 0}{ab^2/(a^2+b^2)-b} = dfrac{a^2}{ab - a^2 - b^2}$.



                    The slope of $DN$ is $m_2 = dfrac{a^2b/(a^2+b^2) - a}{ab^2/(a^2+b^2)-a} = dfrac{ab - a^2 - b^2}{b^2 - a^2 - b^2} = - left(dfrac{ab-a^2-b^2}{a^2} right)$.



                    Hence, the product of the slopes is $m_1m_2 = -1$. Hence your conjecture is indeed correct. I am waiting for someone to post a nicer geometric argument.







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                        HINT: Try to resort to Homothetic transformation and you're done immediately. Another way is to connect $N$ to the middle of the $DF$ (let's call that point $M$) and prove that you have there $NM$=$DM$=$MF$ (here you may resort to Apollonius' theorem). You also could resort to the cyclic quadrilaterals as another approaching way.






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                          HINT: Try to resort to Homothetic transformation and you're done immediately. Another way is to connect $N$ to the middle of the $DF$ (let's call that point $M$) and prove that you have there $NM$=$DM$=$MF$ (here you may resort to Apollonius' theorem). You also could resort to the cyclic quadrilaterals as another approaching way.






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                            HINT: Try to resort to Homothetic transformation and you're done immediately. Another way is to connect $N$ to the middle of the $DF$ (let's call that point $M$) and prove that you have there $NM$=$DM$=$MF$ (here you may resort to Apollonius' theorem). You also could resort to the cyclic quadrilaterals as another approaching way.






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                            HINT: Try to resort to Homothetic transformation and you're done immediately. Another way is to connect $N$ to the middle of the $DF$ (let's call that point $M$) and prove that you have there $NM$=$DM$=$MF$ (here you may resort to Apollonius' theorem). You also could resort to the cyclic quadrilaterals as another approaching way.







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