How can I find the real roots of $x^4-x^2+1$?












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I've been trying to solve this for a couple of hours and I can't still find the answer.
According to the answer I was given the reals roots should be:
In reals: $left(x^2+sqrt{3}x+1right)left(x^2-sqrt{3}x+1right)$.



I need to know how to find those since I need them to find the imaginary roots.



If you know any other method to find the imaginary roots of a polynomial I would like to know it too.



Thank you in advance.










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    I've been trying to solve this for a couple of hours and I can't still find the answer.
    According to the answer I was given the reals roots should be:
    In reals: $left(x^2+sqrt{3}x+1right)left(x^2-sqrt{3}x+1right)$.



    I need to know how to find those since I need them to find the imaginary roots.



    If you know any other method to find the imaginary roots of a polynomial I would like to know it too.



    Thank you in advance.










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      I've been trying to solve this for a couple of hours and I can't still find the answer.
      According to the answer I was given the reals roots should be:
      In reals: $left(x^2+sqrt{3}x+1right)left(x^2-sqrt{3}x+1right)$.



      I need to know how to find those since I need them to find the imaginary roots.



      If you know any other method to find the imaginary roots of a polynomial I would like to know it too.



      Thank you in advance.










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      I've been trying to solve this for a couple of hours and I can't still find the answer.
      According to the answer I was given the reals roots should be:
      In reals: $left(x^2+sqrt{3}x+1right)left(x^2-sqrt{3}x+1right)$.



      I need to know how to find those since I need them to find the imaginary roots.



      If you know any other method to find the imaginary roots of a polynomial I would like to know it too.



      Thank you in advance.







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          Hint: It is $$left(x^2-frac{1}{2}right)^2+frac{3}{4}>0$$






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            Got it! Thank you :D
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          Express your polynomial as a difference of two squaresbegin{align}x^4-x^2+1&=left(x^2+1right)^2-3x^2\&=left(x^2-sqrt3,x+1right)left(x^2+sqrt3,x+1right).end{align}






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            I would have never thought about that, a pretty easy way to do it. TY
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          Both $$x^2 pm sqrt x +1=0$$ will provide complex roots for your equation, since $$ b^2-4ac =sqrt 3 ^2 -4 =-1$$ is a negative number.



          Thus there are no real roots to be found.






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            Hint: put $x^2=t$, so your equation becomes
            $$t^2-t+1=0.$$
            Solve this, then the real roots of your original polynomial are those real $x$ such that $x^2=t$.






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              I already did that, but I still don't get the correct answer since the roots of t^2-t+1 aren't real :/
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              U can't find real roots, because this polynomial doesn't have such
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              @WreaKinGz That means there are no real solutions. Since $x$ is required to be real, then $x^2$ is also real, so it cannot equal a (strictly) complex number.
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            Hint: It is $$left(x^2-frac{1}{2}right)^2+frac{3}{4}>0$$






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              Got it! Thank you :D
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              Fine, i wish you a nice day!
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            Hint: It is $$left(x^2-frac{1}{2}right)^2+frac{3}{4}>0$$






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              Got it! Thank you :D
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              Fine, i wish you a nice day!
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            Hint: It is $$left(x^2-frac{1}{2}right)^2+frac{3}{4}>0$$






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            Hint: It is $$left(x^2-frac{1}{2}right)^2+frac{3}{4}>0$$







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            edited Oct 13 '18 at 10:15









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            answered Oct 13 '18 at 10:09









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              Got it! Thank you :D
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              Fine, i wish you a nice day!
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              Got it! Thank you :D
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              – WreaKinGz
              Oct 13 '18 at 10:23










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              Fine, i wish you a nice day!
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            Got it! Thank you :D
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            Got it! Thank you :D
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            Express your polynomial as a difference of two squaresbegin{align}x^4-x^2+1&=left(x^2+1right)^2-3x^2\&=left(x^2-sqrt3,x+1right)left(x^2+sqrt3,x+1right).end{align}






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            Express your polynomial as a difference of two squaresbegin{align}x^4-x^2+1&=left(x^2+1right)^2-3x^2\&=left(x^2-sqrt3,x+1right)left(x^2+sqrt3,x+1right).end{align}






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            Express your polynomial as a difference of two squaresbegin{align}x^4-x^2+1&=left(x^2+1right)^2-3x^2\&=left(x^2-sqrt3,x+1right)left(x^2+sqrt3,x+1right).end{align}






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            Express your polynomial as a difference of two squaresbegin{align}x^4-x^2+1&=left(x^2+1right)^2-3x^2\&=left(x^2-sqrt3,x+1right)left(x^2+sqrt3,x+1right).end{align}







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            answered Oct 13 '18 at 10:10









            José Carlos SantosJosé Carlos Santos

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              I would have never thought about that, a pretty easy way to do it. TY
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              I would have never thought about that, a pretty easy way to do it. TY
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            I would have never thought about that, a pretty easy way to do it. TY
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            – WreaKinGz
            Oct 13 '18 at 10:20




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            I would have never thought about that, a pretty easy way to do it. TY
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            – WreaKinGz
            Oct 13 '18 at 10:20











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            Both $$x^2 pm sqrt x +1=0$$ will provide complex roots for your equation, since $$ b^2-4ac =sqrt 3 ^2 -4 =-1$$ is a negative number.



            Thus there are no real roots to be found.






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              Both $$x^2 pm sqrt x +1=0$$ will provide complex roots for your equation, since $$ b^2-4ac =sqrt 3 ^2 -4 =-1$$ is a negative number.



              Thus there are no real roots to be found.






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                Both $$x^2 pm sqrt x +1=0$$ will provide complex roots for your equation, since $$ b^2-4ac =sqrt 3 ^2 -4 =-1$$ is a negative number.



                Thus there are no real roots to be found.






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                Both $$x^2 pm sqrt x +1=0$$ will provide complex roots for your equation, since $$ b^2-4ac =sqrt 3 ^2 -4 =-1$$ is a negative number.



                Thus there are no real roots to be found.







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                    Hint: put $x^2=t$, so your equation becomes
                    $$t^2-t+1=0.$$
                    Solve this, then the real roots of your original polynomial are those real $x$ such that $x^2=t$.






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                      I already did that, but I still don't get the correct answer since the roots of t^2-t+1 aren't real :/
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                      – WreaKinGz
                      Oct 13 '18 at 10:08










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                      U can't find real roots, because this polynomial doesn't have such
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                      @WreaKinGz That means there are no real solutions. Since $x$ is required to be real, then $x^2$ is also real, so it cannot equal a (strictly) complex number.
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                      – Gibbs
                      Oct 13 '18 at 10:21
















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                    Hint: put $x^2=t$, so your equation becomes
                    $$t^2-t+1=0.$$
                    Solve this, then the real roots of your original polynomial are those real $x$ such that $x^2=t$.






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                      I already did that, but I still don't get the correct answer since the roots of t^2-t+1 aren't real :/
                      $endgroup$
                      – WreaKinGz
                      Oct 13 '18 at 10:08










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                      U can't find real roots, because this polynomial doesn't have such
                      $endgroup$
                      – Dominik Kutek
                      Oct 13 '18 at 10:09






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                      $begingroup$
                      @WreaKinGz That means there are no real solutions. Since $x$ is required to be real, then $x^2$ is also real, so it cannot equal a (strictly) complex number.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Gibbs
                      Oct 13 '18 at 10:21














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                    Hint: put $x^2=t$, so your equation becomes
                    $$t^2-t+1=0.$$
                    Solve this, then the real roots of your original polynomial are those real $x$ such that $x^2=t$.






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                    Hint: put $x^2=t$, so your equation becomes
                    $$t^2-t+1=0.$$
                    Solve this, then the real roots of your original polynomial are those real $x$ such that $x^2=t$.







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                      I already did that, but I still don't get the correct answer since the roots of t^2-t+1 aren't real :/
                      $endgroup$
                      – WreaKinGz
                      Oct 13 '18 at 10:08










                    • $begingroup$
                      U can't find real roots, because this polynomial doesn't have such
                      $endgroup$
                      – Dominik Kutek
                      Oct 13 '18 at 10:09






                    • 1




                      $begingroup$
                      @WreaKinGz That means there are no real solutions. Since $x$ is required to be real, then $x^2$ is also real, so it cannot equal a (strictly) complex number.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Gibbs
                      Oct 13 '18 at 10:21














                    • 1




                      $begingroup$
                      I already did that, but I still don't get the correct answer since the roots of t^2-t+1 aren't real :/
                      $endgroup$
                      – WreaKinGz
                      Oct 13 '18 at 10:08










                    • $begingroup$
                      U can't find real roots, because this polynomial doesn't have such
                      $endgroup$
                      – Dominik Kutek
                      Oct 13 '18 at 10:09






                    • 1




                      $begingroup$
                      @WreaKinGz That means there are no real solutions. Since $x$ is required to be real, then $x^2$ is also real, so it cannot equal a (strictly) complex number.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Gibbs
                      Oct 13 '18 at 10:21








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                    $begingroup$
                    I already did that, but I still don't get the correct answer since the roots of t^2-t+1 aren't real :/
                    $endgroup$
                    – WreaKinGz
                    Oct 13 '18 at 10:08




                    $begingroup$
                    I already did that, but I still don't get the correct answer since the roots of t^2-t+1 aren't real :/
                    $endgroup$
                    – WreaKinGz
                    Oct 13 '18 at 10:08












                    $begingroup$
                    U can't find real roots, because this polynomial doesn't have such
                    $endgroup$
                    – Dominik Kutek
                    Oct 13 '18 at 10:09




                    $begingroup$
                    U can't find real roots, because this polynomial doesn't have such
                    $endgroup$
                    – Dominik Kutek
                    Oct 13 '18 at 10:09




                    1




                    1




                    $begingroup$
                    @WreaKinGz That means there are no real solutions. Since $x$ is required to be real, then $x^2$ is also real, so it cannot equal a (strictly) complex number.
                    $endgroup$
                    – Gibbs
                    Oct 13 '18 at 10:21




                    $begingroup$
                    @WreaKinGz That means there are no real solutions. Since $x$ is required to be real, then $x^2$ is also real, so it cannot equal a (strictly) complex number.
                    $endgroup$
                    – Gibbs
                    Oct 13 '18 at 10:21


















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