$lim_{xto -infty} x+sqrt{x^2-3x}$
Hey so I'm having a bit of a hard time understanding this one.
$lim_{xto -infty} x+sqrt{x^2-3x}$
1) $x+sqrt{x^2-3x}$ * $(frac{x-sqrt{x^2-3x}}{x-sqrt{x^2-3x}})$
2) $frac{x^2-(x^2-3x)}{x-sqrt{x^2-3x}}$
3) $frac{3x}{x-sqrt{x^2(1-frac{3}{x}})}$
4) $frac{3x}{x-sqrt{x^2}*sqrt{1-frac{3}{x}}}$
5) $frac{3x}{x-x(sqrt{1-frac{3}{x}})}$
6) $frac{3}{1-(sqrt{1-frac{3}{x}})}$
Now I would just take the limit, it would result in $frac{3}{1-1}$ which would be undefined. For some reason, the $x$ in the denominator of step 5 should turn into $-(-x)$ which in turn would be positive and therefore be $frac{3}{1+sqrt{1=frac{3}{x}}}$ which would equal $frac{3}{2}$.
I really don't get it. Apparently the $-infty$ would mean that $sqrt{x^2}$ = $-x$. We didn't even evaluate the limit yet.. how does that turn into $-x$, just because we know the limit is negative does not mean we evaluated it yet..., why not simplify until there is no more simplification to be done, which is what I did in my steps, which would evaluate to undefined?
Would love some help, thanks!
calculus limits
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Hey so I'm having a bit of a hard time understanding this one.
$lim_{xto -infty} x+sqrt{x^2-3x}$
1) $x+sqrt{x^2-3x}$ * $(frac{x-sqrt{x^2-3x}}{x-sqrt{x^2-3x}})$
2) $frac{x^2-(x^2-3x)}{x-sqrt{x^2-3x}}$
3) $frac{3x}{x-sqrt{x^2(1-frac{3}{x}})}$
4) $frac{3x}{x-sqrt{x^2}*sqrt{1-frac{3}{x}}}$
5) $frac{3x}{x-x(sqrt{1-frac{3}{x}})}$
6) $frac{3}{1-(sqrt{1-frac{3}{x}})}$
Now I would just take the limit, it would result in $frac{3}{1-1}$ which would be undefined. For some reason, the $x$ in the denominator of step 5 should turn into $-(-x)$ which in turn would be positive and therefore be $frac{3}{1+sqrt{1=frac{3}{x}}}$ which would equal $frac{3}{2}$.
I really don't get it. Apparently the $-infty$ would mean that $sqrt{x^2}$ = $-x$. We didn't even evaluate the limit yet.. how does that turn into $-x$, just because we know the limit is negative does not mean we evaluated it yet..., why not simplify until there is no more simplification to be done, which is what I did in my steps, which would evaluate to undefined?
Would love some help, thanks!
calculus limits
$sqrt{x^2}$ has two solutions for $x$: $pm x$; if $x<0$ the only solution is $-x$.
– Václav Mordvinov
Nov 24 at 18:27
So based on that we know that $x$ is negative before we even evaluate the limit, we just take $-x$? If so, do we replace $x$ by $-infty$ or by $infty$ after we get $sqrt{x^2}$ = $-x$
– user472288
Nov 24 at 18:28
You take $lim_{xto -infty} x+sqrt{x^2-3x}$. If this limit exists and equals $a$, is means that given $epsilon>0$ there exists $Minmathbb{R}$ such that for all $x<M$, we have $|x+sqrt{x^2-3x}-a|<epsilon$. Since this holds for all $x<M$, we can assume without loss of generality that $M<0$, for if this holds for an $Mgeq0$, it certainly holds for any negative $M$.
– Václav Mordvinov
Nov 24 at 18:31
You might do better with $lim_{yto infty} sqrt{y^2+3y}-y$ by using $y=-x$. Your approach then leads to $frac{3}{2}$ without worrying about the ambiguity of the square root.
– herb steinberg
Nov 24 at 18:44
Just test it for a few values of $x$ (approaching $-infty$)! When $x=-10$ you have $x^2=100$. So $sqrt{x^2}=sqrt{100}=10=-x$. When $x=-100$ you have $x^2=10000$ and $sqrt{x^2}=sqrt{10000}=100=-x$. Do you see what happens?
– Jyrki Lahtonen
Nov 25 at 5:17
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Hey so I'm having a bit of a hard time understanding this one.
$lim_{xto -infty} x+sqrt{x^2-3x}$
1) $x+sqrt{x^2-3x}$ * $(frac{x-sqrt{x^2-3x}}{x-sqrt{x^2-3x}})$
2) $frac{x^2-(x^2-3x)}{x-sqrt{x^2-3x}}$
3) $frac{3x}{x-sqrt{x^2(1-frac{3}{x}})}$
4) $frac{3x}{x-sqrt{x^2}*sqrt{1-frac{3}{x}}}$
5) $frac{3x}{x-x(sqrt{1-frac{3}{x}})}$
6) $frac{3}{1-(sqrt{1-frac{3}{x}})}$
Now I would just take the limit, it would result in $frac{3}{1-1}$ which would be undefined. For some reason, the $x$ in the denominator of step 5 should turn into $-(-x)$ which in turn would be positive and therefore be $frac{3}{1+sqrt{1=frac{3}{x}}}$ which would equal $frac{3}{2}$.
I really don't get it. Apparently the $-infty$ would mean that $sqrt{x^2}$ = $-x$. We didn't even evaluate the limit yet.. how does that turn into $-x$, just because we know the limit is negative does not mean we evaluated it yet..., why not simplify until there is no more simplification to be done, which is what I did in my steps, which would evaluate to undefined?
Would love some help, thanks!
calculus limits
Hey so I'm having a bit of a hard time understanding this one.
$lim_{xto -infty} x+sqrt{x^2-3x}$
1) $x+sqrt{x^2-3x}$ * $(frac{x-sqrt{x^2-3x}}{x-sqrt{x^2-3x}})$
2) $frac{x^2-(x^2-3x)}{x-sqrt{x^2-3x}}$
3) $frac{3x}{x-sqrt{x^2(1-frac{3}{x}})}$
4) $frac{3x}{x-sqrt{x^2}*sqrt{1-frac{3}{x}}}$
5) $frac{3x}{x-x(sqrt{1-frac{3}{x}})}$
6) $frac{3}{1-(sqrt{1-frac{3}{x}})}$
Now I would just take the limit, it would result in $frac{3}{1-1}$ which would be undefined. For some reason, the $x$ in the denominator of step 5 should turn into $-(-x)$ which in turn would be positive and therefore be $frac{3}{1+sqrt{1=frac{3}{x}}}$ which would equal $frac{3}{2}$.
I really don't get it. Apparently the $-infty$ would mean that $sqrt{x^2}$ = $-x$. We didn't even evaluate the limit yet.. how does that turn into $-x$, just because we know the limit is negative does not mean we evaluated it yet..., why not simplify until there is no more simplification to be done, which is what I did in my steps, which would evaluate to undefined?
Would love some help, thanks!
calculus limits
calculus limits
edited Nov 24 at 18:26
asked Nov 24 at 18:21
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$sqrt{x^2}$ has two solutions for $x$: $pm x$; if $x<0$ the only solution is $-x$.
– Václav Mordvinov
Nov 24 at 18:27
So based on that we know that $x$ is negative before we even evaluate the limit, we just take $-x$? If so, do we replace $x$ by $-infty$ or by $infty$ after we get $sqrt{x^2}$ = $-x$
– user472288
Nov 24 at 18:28
You take $lim_{xto -infty} x+sqrt{x^2-3x}$. If this limit exists and equals $a$, is means that given $epsilon>0$ there exists $Minmathbb{R}$ such that for all $x<M$, we have $|x+sqrt{x^2-3x}-a|<epsilon$. Since this holds for all $x<M$, we can assume without loss of generality that $M<0$, for if this holds for an $Mgeq0$, it certainly holds for any negative $M$.
– Václav Mordvinov
Nov 24 at 18:31
You might do better with $lim_{yto infty} sqrt{y^2+3y}-y$ by using $y=-x$. Your approach then leads to $frac{3}{2}$ without worrying about the ambiguity of the square root.
– herb steinberg
Nov 24 at 18:44
Just test it for a few values of $x$ (approaching $-infty$)! When $x=-10$ you have $x^2=100$. So $sqrt{x^2}=sqrt{100}=10=-x$. When $x=-100$ you have $x^2=10000$ and $sqrt{x^2}=sqrt{10000}=100=-x$. Do you see what happens?
– Jyrki Lahtonen
Nov 25 at 5:17
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$sqrt{x^2}$ has two solutions for $x$: $pm x$; if $x<0$ the only solution is $-x$.
– Václav Mordvinov
Nov 24 at 18:27
So based on that we know that $x$ is negative before we even evaluate the limit, we just take $-x$? If so, do we replace $x$ by $-infty$ or by $infty$ after we get $sqrt{x^2}$ = $-x$
– user472288
Nov 24 at 18:28
You take $lim_{xto -infty} x+sqrt{x^2-3x}$. If this limit exists and equals $a$, is means that given $epsilon>0$ there exists $Minmathbb{R}$ such that for all $x<M$, we have $|x+sqrt{x^2-3x}-a|<epsilon$. Since this holds for all $x<M$, we can assume without loss of generality that $M<0$, for if this holds for an $Mgeq0$, it certainly holds for any negative $M$.
– Václav Mordvinov
Nov 24 at 18:31
You might do better with $lim_{yto infty} sqrt{y^2+3y}-y$ by using $y=-x$. Your approach then leads to $frac{3}{2}$ without worrying about the ambiguity of the square root.
– herb steinberg
Nov 24 at 18:44
Just test it for a few values of $x$ (approaching $-infty$)! When $x=-10$ you have $x^2=100$. So $sqrt{x^2}=sqrt{100}=10=-x$. When $x=-100$ you have $x^2=10000$ and $sqrt{x^2}=sqrt{10000}=100=-x$. Do you see what happens?
– Jyrki Lahtonen
Nov 25 at 5:17
$sqrt{x^2}$ has two solutions for $x$: $pm x$; if $x<0$ the only solution is $-x$.
– Václav Mordvinov
Nov 24 at 18:27
$sqrt{x^2}$ has two solutions for $x$: $pm x$; if $x<0$ the only solution is $-x$.
– Václav Mordvinov
Nov 24 at 18:27
So based on that we know that $x$ is negative before we even evaluate the limit, we just take $-x$? If so, do we replace $x$ by $-infty$ or by $infty$ after we get $sqrt{x^2}$ = $-x$
– user472288
Nov 24 at 18:28
So based on that we know that $x$ is negative before we even evaluate the limit, we just take $-x$? If so, do we replace $x$ by $-infty$ or by $infty$ after we get $sqrt{x^2}$ = $-x$
– user472288
Nov 24 at 18:28
You take $lim_{xto -infty} x+sqrt{x^2-3x}$. If this limit exists and equals $a$, is means that given $epsilon>0$ there exists $Minmathbb{R}$ such that for all $x<M$, we have $|x+sqrt{x^2-3x}-a|<epsilon$. Since this holds for all $x<M$, we can assume without loss of generality that $M<0$, for if this holds for an $Mgeq0$, it certainly holds for any negative $M$.
– Václav Mordvinov
Nov 24 at 18:31
You take $lim_{xto -infty} x+sqrt{x^2-3x}$. If this limit exists and equals $a$, is means that given $epsilon>0$ there exists $Minmathbb{R}$ such that for all $x<M$, we have $|x+sqrt{x^2-3x}-a|<epsilon$. Since this holds for all $x<M$, we can assume without loss of generality that $M<0$, for if this holds for an $Mgeq0$, it certainly holds for any negative $M$.
– Václav Mordvinov
Nov 24 at 18:31
You might do better with $lim_{yto infty} sqrt{y^2+3y}-y$ by using $y=-x$. Your approach then leads to $frac{3}{2}$ without worrying about the ambiguity of the square root.
– herb steinberg
Nov 24 at 18:44
You might do better with $lim_{yto infty} sqrt{y^2+3y}-y$ by using $y=-x$. Your approach then leads to $frac{3}{2}$ without worrying about the ambiguity of the square root.
– herb steinberg
Nov 24 at 18:44
Just test it for a few values of $x$ (approaching $-infty$)! When $x=-10$ you have $x^2=100$. So $sqrt{x^2}=sqrt{100}=10=-x$. When $x=-100$ you have $x^2=10000$ and $sqrt{x^2}=sqrt{10000}=100=-x$. Do you see what happens?
– Jyrki Lahtonen
Nov 25 at 5:17
Just test it for a few values of $x$ (approaching $-infty$)! When $x=-10$ you have $x^2=100$. So $sqrt{x^2}=sqrt{100}=10=-x$. When $x=-100$ you have $x^2=10000$ and $sqrt{x^2}=sqrt{10000}=100=-x$. Do you see what happens?
– Jyrki Lahtonen
Nov 25 at 5:17
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The problem is indeed that, for $x<0$, $sqrt{x^2}=-x$, so when you pull $x^2$ outside the square root it must become $-x$ and not $x$. We can assume $x<0$ because we're doing a limit for $xto-infty$, so restricting the function to an interval of the form $(-infty,a)$, for any $a$, is possible and doesn't affect the limit.
You avoid most problem of this kind if you switch to positive infinity ($x=-y$) or to “positive $0$” ($x=-1/t$). With the latter method, the limit becomes
$$
lim_{xto-infty}bigl(x+sqrt{x^2-3x},bigr)=
lim_{tto0^+}left(-frac{1}{t}+sqrt{frac{1}{t^2}+frac{3}{t}}right)=
lim_{tto0^+}frac{sqrt{1+3t}-1}{t}
$$
which should be much easier (either as a derivative or using the usual technique with the conjugate). Here we can simplify $sqrt{t^2}=t$ because we're working in a right neighborhood of $0$.
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In such cases, to avoid confusion with signs, I often suggest, at least as a check, to take $y=-x to infty$ and then
$$lim_{xto -infty} x+sqrt{x^2-3x}=lim_{yto infty} -y+sqrt{y^2+3y}$$
and from here we can proceed as usual.
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$a^2-b^2=(a-b)(a+b).$
$y:=-x$ , and consider $lim y rightarrow + infty.$
$sqrt{y^2+3y}-y= dfrac{(y^2+3y)-y^2}{sqrt{y^2+3y}+y}=$
$dfrac{3y}{sqrt{y^2+3y}+y}= dfrac{3y}{y(sqrt{1+3/y}+1)}$
$=dfrac{3}{sqrt{1+3/y}+1}.$
Take the limit.
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We are near $-infty$, so $x<0$ and $|x|=-x$.
thus
$$x+sqrt{x^2-3x}=x+sqrt{x^2(1-frac 3x)}$$
$$=x+|x|sqrt{1-frac 3x}$$
$$=x(1-sqrt{1-frac 3x})$$
$$=xfrac{frac 3x}{1+sqrt{1-frac 3x}}$$
the limit is $frac 32$.
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Using Taylor's expansion:
When x approches $-infty$:
$x + sqrt{x^2-3x} = x - x(1 - frac{3}{2x}+text{o}(x)) = x - x + frac{3}{2}+text{o}(1) rightarrow frac{3}{2}$.
So, yeah
$
begin{align}
lim_{xto-infty}x + sqrt{x^2-3x} =frac{3}{2}.
end{align}
$
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The problem is indeed that, for $x<0$, $sqrt{x^2}=-x$, so when you pull $x^2$ outside the square root it must become $-x$ and not $x$. We can assume $x<0$ because we're doing a limit for $xto-infty$, so restricting the function to an interval of the form $(-infty,a)$, for any $a$, is possible and doesn't affect the limit.
You avoid most problem of this kind if you switch to positive infinity ($x=-y$) or to “positive $0$” ($x=-1/t$). With the latter method, the limit becomes
$$
lim_{xto-infty}bigl(x+sqrt{x^2-3x},bigr)=
lim_{tto0^+}left(-frac{1}{t}+sqrt{frac{1}{t^2}+frac{3}{t}}right)=
lim_{tto0^+}frac{sqrt{1+3t}-1}{t}
$$
which should be much easier (either as a derivative or using the usual technique with the conjugate). Here we can simplify $sqrt{t^2}=t$ because we're working in a right neighborhood of $0$.
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The problem is indeed that, for $x<0$, $sqrt{x^2}=-x$, so when you pull $x^2$ outside the square root it must become $-x$ and not $x$. We can assume $x<0$ because we're doing a limit for $xto-infty$, so restricting the function to an interval of the form $(-infty,a)$, for any $a$, is possible and doesn't affect the limit.
You avoid most problem of this kind if you switch to positive infinity ($x=-y$) or to “positive $0$” ($x=-1/t$). With the latter method, the limit becomes
$$
lim_{xto-infty}bigl(x+sqrt{x^2-3x},bigr)=
lim_{tto0^+}left(-frac{1}{t}+sqrt{frac{1}{t^2}+frac{3}{t}}right)=
lim_{tto0^+}frac{sqrt{1+3t}-1}{t}
$$
which should be much easier (either as a derivative or using the usual technique with the conjugate). Here we can simplify $sqrt{t^2}=t$ because we're working in a right neighborhood of $0$.
add a comment |
The problem is indeed that, for $x<0$, $sqrt{x^2}=-x$, so when you pull $x^2$ outside the square root it must become $-x$ and not $x$. We can assume $x<0$ because we're doing a limit for $xto-infty$, so restricting the function to an interval of the form $(-infty,a)$, for any $a$, is possible and doesn't affect the limit.
You avoid most problem of this kind if you switch to positive infinity ($x=-y$) or to “positive $0$” ($x=-1/t$). With the latter method, the limit becomes
$$
lim_{xto-infty}bigl(x+sqrt{x^2-3x},bigr)=
lim_{tto0^+}left(-frac{1}{t}+sqrt{frac{1}{t^2}+frac{3}{t}}right)=
lim_{tto0^+}frac{sqrt{1+3t}-1}{t}
$$
which should be much easier (either as a derivative or using the usual technique with the conjugate). Here we can simplify $sqrt{t^2}=t$ because we're working in a right neighborhood of $0$.
The problem is indeed that, for $x<0$, $sqrt{x^2}=-x$, so when you pull $x^2$ outside the square root it must become $-x$ and not $x$. We can assume $x<0$ because we're doing a limit for $xto-infty$, so restricting the function to an interval of the form $(-infty,a)$, for any $a$, is possible and doesn't affect the limit.
You avoid most problem of this kind if you switch to positive infinity ($x=-y$) or to “positive $0$” ($x=-1/t$). With the latter method, the limit becomes
$$
lim_{xto-infty}bigl(x+sqrt{x^2-3x},bigr)=
lim_{tto0^+}left(-frac{1}{t}+sqrt{frac{1}{t^2}+frac{3}{t}}right)=
lim_{tto0^+}frac{sqrt{1+3t}-1}{t}
$$
which should be much easier (either as a derivative or using the usual technique with the conjugate). Here we can simplify $sqrt{t^2}=t$ because we're working in a right neighborhood of $0$.
answered Nov 24 at 21:06
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In such cases, to avoid confusion with signs, I often suggest, at least as a check, to take $y=-x to infty$ and then
$$lim_{xto -infty} x+sqrt{x^2-3x}=lim_{yto infty} -y+sqrt{y^2+3y}$$
and from here we can proceed as usual.
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In such cases, to avoid confusion with signs, I often suggest, at least as a check, to take $y=-x to infty$ and then
$$lim_{xto -infty} x+sqrt{x^2-3x}=lim_{yto infty} -y+sqrt{y^2+3y}$$
and from here we can proceed as usual.
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In such cases, to avoid confusion with signs, I often suggest, at least as a check, to take $y=-x to infty$ and then
$$lim_{xto -infty} x+sqrt{x^2-3x}=lim_{yto infty} -y+sqrt{y^2+3y}$$
and from here we can proceed as usual.
In such cases, to avoid confusion with signs, I often suggest, at least as a check, to take $y=-x to infty$ and then
$$lim_{xto -infty} x+sqrt{x^2-3x}=lim_{yto infty} -y+sqrt{y^2+3y}$$
and from here we can proceed as usual.
answered Nov 24 at 18:43
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$a^2-b^2=(a-b)(a+b).$
$y:=-x$ , and consider $lim y rightarrow + infty.$
$sqrt{y^2+3y}-y= dfrac{(y^2+3y)-y^2}{sqrt{y^2+3y}+y}=$
$dfrac{3y}{sqrt{y^2+3y}+y}= dfrac{3y}{y(sqrt{1+3/y}+1)}$
$=dfrac{3}{sqrt{1+3/y}+1}.$
Take the limit.
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$a^2-b^2=(a-b)(a+b).$
$y:=-x$ , and consider $lim y rightarrow + infty.$
$sqrt{y^2+3y}-y= dfrac{(y^2+3y)-y^2}{sqrt{y^2+3y}+y}=$
$dfrac{3y}{sqrt{y^2+3y}+y}= dfrac{3y}{y(sqrt{1+3/y}+1)}$
$=dfrac{3}{sqrt{1+3/y}+1}.$
Take the limit.
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$a^2-b^2=(a-b)(a+b).$
$y:=-x$ , and consider $lim y rightarrow + infty.$
$sqrt{y^2+3y}-y= dfrac{(y^2+3y)-y^2}{sqrt{y^2+3y}+y}=$
$dfrac{3y}{sqrt{y^2+3y}+y}= dfrac{3y}{y(sqrt{1+3/y}+1)}$
$=dfrac{3}{sqrt{1+3/y}+1}.$
Take the limit.
$a^2-b^2=(a-b)(a+b).$
$y:=-x$ , and consider $lim y rightarrow + infty.$
$sqrt{y^2+3y}-y= dfrac{(y^2+3y)-y^2}{sqrt{y^2+3y}+y}=$
$dfrac{3y}{sqrt{y^2+3y}+y}= dfrac{3y}{y(sqrt{1+3/y}+1)}$
$=dfrac{3}{sqrt{1+3/y}+1}.$
Take the limit.
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answered Nov 24 at 18:58
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We are near $-infty$, so $x<0$ and $|x|=-x$.
thus
$$x+sqrt{x^2-3x}=x+sqrt{x^2(1-frac 3x)}$$
$$=x+|x|sqrt{1-frac 3x}$$
$$=x(1-sqrt{1-frac 3x})$$
$$=xfrac{frac 3x}{1+sqrt{1-frac 3x}}$$
the limit is $frac 32$.
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We are near $-infty$, so $x<0$ and $|x|=-x$.
thus
$$x+sqrt{x^2-3x}=x+sqrt{x^2(1-frac 3x)}$$
$$=x+|x|sqrt{1-frac 3x}$$
$$=x(1-sqrt{1-frac 3x})$$
$$=xfrac{frac 3x}{1+sqrt{1-frac 3x}}$$
the limit is $frac 32$.
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We are near $-infty$, so $x<0$ and $|x|=-x$.
thus
$$x+sqrt{x^2-3x}=x+sqrt{x^2(1-frac 3x)}$$
$$=x+|x|sqrt{1-frac 3x}$$
$$=x(1-sqrt{1-frac 3x})$$
$$=xfrac{frac 3x}{1+sqrt{1-frac 3x}}$$
the limit is $frac 32$.
We are near $-infty$, so $x<0$ and $|x|=-x$.
thus
$$x+sqrt{x^2-3x}=x+sqrt{x^2(1-frac 3x)}$$
$$=x+|x|sqrt{1-frac 3x}$$
$$=x(1-sqrt{1-frac 3x})$$
$$=xfrac{frac 3x}{1+sqrt{1-frac 3x}}$$
the limit is $frac 32$.
edited Nov 24 at 19:06
answered Nov 24 at 18:48
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Using Taylor's expansion:
When x approches $-infty$:
$x + sqrt{x^2-3x} = x - x(1 - frac{3}{2x}+text{o}(x)) = x - x + frac{3}{2}+text{o}(1) rightarrow frac{3}{2}$.
So, yeah
$
begin{align}
lim_{xto-infty}x + sqrt{x^2-3x} =frac{3}{2}.
end{align}
$
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Using Taylor's expansion:
When x approches $-infty$:
$x + sqrt{x^2-3x} = x - x(1 - frac{3}{2x}+text{o}(x)) = x - x + frac{3}{2}+text{o}(1) rightarrow frac{3}{2}$.
So, yeah
$
begin{align}
lim_{xto-infty}x + sqrt{x^2-3x} =frac{3}{2}.
end{align}
$
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Using Taylor's expansion:
When x approches $-infty$:
$x + sqrt{x^2-3x} = x - x(1 - frac{3}{2x}+text{o}(x)) = x - x + frac{3}{2}+text{o}(1) rightarrow frac{3}{2}$.
So, yeah
$
begin{align}
lim_{xto-infty}x + sqrt{x^2-3x} =frac{3}{2}.
end{align}
$
Using Taylor's expansion:
When x approches $-infty$:
$x + sqrt{x^2-3x} = x - x(1 - frac{3}{2x}+text{o}(x)) = x - x + frac{3}{2}+text{o}(1) rightarrow frac{3}{2}$.
So, yeah
$
begin{align}
lim_{xto-infty}x + sqrt{x^2-3x} =frac{3}{2}.
end{align}
$
edited Nov 24 at 19:45
answered Nov 24 at 19:08
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$sqrt{x^2}$ has two solutions for $x$: $pm x$; if $x<0$ the only solution is $-x$.
– Václav Mordvinov
Nov 24 at 18:27
So based on that we know that $x$ is negative before we even evaluate the limit, we just take $-x$? If so, do we replace $x$ by $-infty$ or by $infty$ after we get $sqrt{x^2}$ = $-x$
– user472288
Nov 24 at 18:28
You take $lim_{xto -infty} x+sqrt{x^2-3x}$. If this limit exists and equals $a$, is means that given $epsilon>0$ there exists $Minmathbb{R}$ such that for all $x<M$, we have $|x+sqrt{x^2-3x}-a|<epsilon$. Since this holds for all $x<M$, we can assume without loss of generality that $M<0$, for if this holds for an $Mgeq0$, it certainly holds for any negative $M$.
– Václav Mordvinov
Nov 24 at 18:31
You might do better with $lim_{yto infty} sqrt{y^2+3y}-y$ by using $y=-x$. Your approach then leads to $frac{3}{2}$ without worrying about the ambiguity of the square root.
– herb steinberg
Nov 24 at 18:44
Just test it for a few values of $x$ (approaching $-infty$)! When $x=-10$ you have $x^2=100$. So $sqrt{x^2}=sqrt{100}=10=-x$. When $x=-100$ you have $x^2=10000$ and $sqrt{x^2}=sqrt{10000}=100=-x$. Do you see what happens?
– Jyrki Lahtonen
Nov 25 at 5:17