Representation with distinct egyptian fractions with “small” denominators












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Suppose, I have a rational number $r$ with $0<r<1$, for example $$r=frac{53143}{274851}$$



The goal is to write $r$ as a sum of DISTINCT egyptian fractions (fractions with numerator $1$).



The greedy method (always take the smallest possible denominator) leads to the numbers



$$[6, 38, 2706, 34382456, 4763382302120345, 385726786254606395971426367503080]$$



That means $$r=frac{1}{6}+frac{1}{38}+frac{1}{2706}+frac{1}{34382456}+frac{1}{4763382302120345}+frac{1}{385726786254606395971426367503080}$$



The greedy methods usually leads to very large denominators. I would like to have much smaller denominators. I read somewhere that no efficient algorithm is known to find the optimal representation in the sense, that the largest occuring denominator is as small as possible. But I am looking for a method finding a "good" representation in that sense.



A much better solution in the given example would be :



$$[8, 18, 80, 3792, 30539, 48251620]$$



The maximum entry has only $8$ instead of $33$ digits.



Any ideas ?










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    $$[6, 40, 610, 30539, 335929, 366468, 483120, 488624, 549702, 610780]$$ is an even better representation with $10$ terms, but maximum entry only $6$ digits long
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    – Peter
    Dec 15 '16 at 13:50
















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$begingroup$


Suppose, I have a rational number $r$ with $0<r<1$, for example $$r=frac{53143}{274851}$$



The goal is to write $r$ as a sum of DISTINCT egyptian fractions (fractions with numerator $1$).



The greedy method (always take the smallest possible denominator) leads to the numbers



$$[6, 38, 2706, 34382456, 4763382302120345, 385726786254606395971426367503080]$$



That means $$r=frac{1}{6}+frac{1}{38}+frac{1}{2706}+frac{1}{34382456}+frac{1}{4763382302120345}+frac{1}{385726786254606395971426367503080}$$



The greedy methods usually leads to very large denominators. I would like to have much smaller denominators. I read somewhere that no efficient algorithm is known to find the optimal representation in the sense, that the largest occuring denominator is as small as possible. But I am looking for a method finding a "good" representation in that sense.



A much better solution in the given example would be :



$$[8, 18, 80, 3792, 30539, 48251620]$$



The maximum entry has only $8$ instead of $33$ digits.



Any ideas ?










share|cite|improve this question











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  • $begingroup$
    $$[6, 40, 610, 30539, 335929, 366468, 483120, 488624, 549702, 610780]$$ is an even better representation with $10$ terms, but maximum entry only $6$ digits long
    $endgroup$
    – Peter
    Dec 15 '16 at 13:50














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$begingroup$


Suppose, I have a rational number $r$ with $0<r<1$, for example $$r=frac{53143}{274851}$$



The goal is to write $r$ as a sum of DISTINCT egyptian fractions (fractions with numerator $1$).



The greedy method (always take the smallest possible denominator) leads to the numbers



$$[6, 38, 2706, 34382456, 4763382302120345, 385726786254606395971426367503080]$$



That means $$r=frac{1}{6}+frac{1}{38}+frac{1}{2706}+frac{1}{34382456}+frac{1}{4763382302120345}+frac{1}{385726786254606395971426367503080}$$



The greedy methods usually leads to very large denominators. I would like to have much smaller denominators. I read somewhere that no efficient algorithm is known to find the optimal representation in the sense, that the largest occuring denominator is as small as possible. But I am looking for a method finding a "good" representation in that sense.



A much better solution in the given example would be :



$$[8, 18, 80, 3792, 30539, 48251620]$$



The maximum entry has only $8$ instead of $33$ digits.



Any ideas ?










share|cite|improve this question











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Suppose, I have a rational number $r$ with $0<r<1$, for example $$r=frac{53143}{274851}$$



The goal is to write $r$ as a sum of DISTINCT egyptian fractions (fractions with numerator $1$).



The greedy method (always take the smallest possible denominator) leads to the numbers



$$[6, 38, 2706, 34382456, 4763382302120345, 385726786254606395971426367503080]$$



That means $$r=frac{1}{6}+frac{1}{38}+frac{1}{2706}+frac{1}{34382456}+frac{1}{4763382302120345}+frac{1}{385726786254606395971426367503080}$$



The greedy methods usually leads to very large denominators. I would like to have much smaller denominators. I read somewhere that no efficient algorithm is known to find the optimal representation in the sense, that the largest occuring denominator is as small as possible. But I am looking for a method finding a "good" representation in that sense.



A much better solution in the given example would be :



$$[8, 18, 80, 3792, 30539, 48251620]$$



The maximum entry has only $8$ instead of $33$ digits.



Any ideas ?







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  • $begingroup$
    $$[6, 40, 610, 30539, 335929, 366468, 483120, 488624, 549702, 610780]$$ is an even better representation with $10$ terms, but maximum entry only $6$ digits long
    $endgroup$
    – Peter
    Dec 15 '16 at 13:50


















  • $begingroup$
    $$[6, 40, 610, 30539, 335929, 366468, 483120, 488624, 549702, 610780]$$ is an even better representation with $10$ terms, but maximum entry only $6$ digits long
    $endgroup$
    – Peter
    Dec 15 '16 at 13:50
















$begingroup$
$$[6, 40, 610, 30539, 335929, 366468, 483120, 488624, 549702, 610780]$$ is an even better representation with $10$ terms, but maximum entry only $6$ digits long
$endgroup$
– Peter
Dec 15 '16 at 13:50




$begingroup$
$$[6, 40, 610, 30539, 335929, 366468, 483120, 488624, 549702, 610780]$$ is an even better representation with $10$ terms, but maximum entry only $6$ digits long
$endgroup$
– Peter
Dec 15 '16 at 13:50










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