Transformation of random variables and joint distributions












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Given a variable $y_i$, normally distributed with 0 mean and $σ_y$ standard deviation



$y_i$ ~ NormalDistribution[0,$σ_y$ ]



I want to obtain with Mathematica:




  1. The distribution of:
    $x = bar{y} = frac {sum_{i=1}^ny_i}{n}$


  2. The joint distribution of $ (x,y_i )$











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    What have you tried? For example, have you seen the documentation on TransformedDistribution and ProbabilityDistribution?
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    @JimB . I tried this TransformedDistribution[Sum[y, {i, n}]/n, y [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]y]]. The result is NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]y]. However, the correct result should be NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]y / Sqrt[n]]
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Given a variable $y_i$, normally distributed with 0 mean and $σ_y$ standard deviation



$y_i$ ~ NormalDistribution[0,$σ_y$ ]



I want to obtain with Mathematica:




  1. The distribution of:
    $x = bar{y} = frac {sum_{i=1}^ny_i}{n}$


  2. The joint distribution of $ (x,y_i )$











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    What have you tried? For example, have you seen the documentation on TransformedDistribution and ProbabilityDistribution?
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    @JimB . I tried this TransformedDistribution[Sum[y, {i, n}]/n, y [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]y]]. The result is NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]y]. However, the correct result should be NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]y / Sqrt[n]]
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Given a variable $y_i$, normally distributed with 0 mean and $σ_y$ standard deviation



$y_i$ ~ NormalDistribution[0,$σ_y$ ]



I want to obtain with Mathematica:




  1. The distribution of:
    $x = bar{y} = frac {sum_{i=1}^ny_i}{n}$


  2. The joint distribution of $ (x,y_i )$











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Given a variable $y_i$, normally distributed with 0 mean and $σ_y$ standard deviation



$y_i$ ~ NormalDistribution[0,$σ_y$ ]



I want to obtain with Mathematica:




  1. The distribution of:
    $x = bar{y} = frac {sum_{i=1}^ny_i}{n}$


  2. The joint distribution of $ (x,y_i )$








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    What have you tried? For example, have you seen the documentation on TransformedDistribution and ProbabilityDistribution?
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    @JimB . I tried this TransformedDistribution[Sum[y, {i, n}]/n, y [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]y]]. The result is NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]y]. However, the correct result should be NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]y / Sqrt[n]]
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    You need to "index" the variable y or else Mathematica thinks it is a single variable.
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    What have you tried? For example, have you seen the documentation on TransformedDistribution and ProbabilityDistribution?
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    Mar 24 at 16:58










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    @JimB . I tried this TransformedDistribution[Sum[y, {i, n}]/n, y [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]y]]. The result is NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]y]. However, the correct result should be NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]y / Sqrt[n]]
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    You need to "index" the variable y or else Mathematica thinks it is a single variable.
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What have you tried? For example, have you seen the documentation on TransformedDistribution and ProbabilityDistribution?
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What have you tried? For example, have you seen the documentation on TransformedDistribution and ProbabilityDistribution?
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– JimB
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@JimB . I tried this TransformedDistribution[Sum[y, {i, n}]/n, y [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]y]]. The result is NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]y]. However, the correct result should be NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]y / Sqrt[n]]
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@JimB . I tried this TransformedDistribution[Sum[y, {i, n}]/n, y [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]y]]. The result is NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]y]. However, the correct result should be NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]y / Sqrt[n]]
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You need to "index" the variable y or else Mathematica thinks it is a single variable.
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I don't know how to get Mathematica to get the joint distribution explicitly for a general value of $n$ but here is how one can easily see the pattern to figure out the general solution.



First the distribution of the mean:



marginalDistribution = TransformedDistribution[Sum[y[i], {i, n}]/n, 
Table[y[i] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {i, n}],
Assumptions -> [Sigma] > 0]
{#, marginalDistribution/.n->#} &/@Range[2,10]


$$
begin{array}{cc}
2 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{2}}right] \
3 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{3}}right] \
4 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{2}right] \
5 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{5}}right] \
6 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{6}}right] \
7 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{7}}right] \
8 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{2 sqrt{2}}right] \
9 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{3}right] \
10 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{10}}right] \
end{array}
$$



So we see that the marginal distribution of $bar{y}$ is



NormalDistribution[0, σ/Sqrt[n]]


The joint distribution of $bar{y}$ and, say, $y_1$ is given by



jointDistribution = TransformedDistribution[{y[1], Sum[y[i], {i, n}]/n}, 
Table[y[i] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {i, n}]]
{#, jointDistribution /. n -> #} & /@ Range[2, 10] // TableForm


$$
begin{array}{cc}
2 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{2} \
frac{sigma ^2}{2} & frac{sigma ^2}{2} \
end{array}
right)right] \
3 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{3} \
frac{sigma ^2}{3} & frac{sigma ^2}{3} \
end{array}
right)right] \
4 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{4} \
frac{sigma ^2}{4} & frac{sigma ^2}{4} \
end{array}
right)right] \
5 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{5} \
frac{sigma ^2}{5} & frac{sigma ^2}{5} \
end{array}
right)right] \
6 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{6} \
frac{sigma ^2}{6} & frac{sigma ^2}{6} \
end{array}
right)right] \
7 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{7} \
frac{sigma ^2}{7} & frac{sigma ^2}{7} \
end{array}
right)right] \
8 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{8} \
frac{sigma ^2}{8} & frac{sigma ^2}{8} \
end{array}
right)right] \
9 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{9} \
frac{sigma ^2}{9} & frac{sigma ^2}{9} \
end{array}
right)right] \
10 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{10} \
frac{sigma ^2}{10} & frac{sigma ^2}{10} \
end{array}
right)right] \
end{array}
$$



So the general distribution is a multivariate normal



MultinormalDistribution[{0, 0}, {{σ^2, σ^2/n}, {σ^2/n, σ^2/n}}]


The general form of the joint density function can then be found with



FullSimplify[PDF[MultinormalDistribution[{0, 0}, {{σ^2, σ^2/n}, {σ^2/n, σ^2/n}}], {y, ybar}],
Assumptions -> {σ > 0, n > 1}]


$$frac{n e^{-frac{n left(n text{ybar}^2+y^2-2 y text{ybar}right)}{2 (n-1) sigma ^2}}}{2 pi sqrt{n-1} sigma ^2}$$






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    Anyway, I like your answer! I'll have to look at it to understand (not obvious (to me) that this would be the solution).
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    @mjw Good. Answers should always be scrutinized and challenged if desired.
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    Nice! In addition to trying to understand the technique, I checked the marginal integrals. Looks great!
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Here is the distribution of $x=overline{y}$ (Part I of your question):



a[n_] := Table[y[k] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {k, 1, n}]; 
p[n_] := TransformedDistribution[Sum[y[k]/n, {k, n}], a[n]];


Now



x [Distributed] p[5] (* n=5, for example *)


The result is



x [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, Abs[[Sigma]]/Sqrt[5]]





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    I am not sure, but shouldn't be n instead of 5 here TransformedDistribution[Sum[y[k]/n, {k, 5}], a] ? And what if I want to leave n, without assigning a value to n? Thanks @mjw
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    Oh yes, you are right! I started with 10 and changed to five as I was trying it out. I'll fix it ... Thanks!
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    Let's go with five because it is clearer. The result is NormalDistribution[0,[Sigma]/Sqrt[5]]. Not sure why Mathematica puts Abs around $sigma$. Obviously, $sigma>0$.
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    Yes, sure it is clearer. Do you have any idea of how can I use n as a parameter, without assigning a value to n?
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    a[n_] = Table[y[k] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {k, 1, n}];
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just modified @mjw's answer,



n = 100;(*for example*)ClearAll[y]; 
a = Table[y[k] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {k, 1, n}];
meanDist = TransformedDistribution[Sum[y[k]/100, {k, 100}], a]


JointDistribution can be composed by ProductDistribution,
if these random variables are independent.

if not,you have to use Copula



joint = ProductDistribution[meanDist, 
Last@*List @@ Part[a, 1]] /. [Sigma] -> 1;
RandomVariate[joint, 100] // Histogram3D


enter image description here



joint = ProductDistribution[meanDist, 
Last@*List @@ Part[a, 1]] /. [Sigma] -> 1;
m1 = RandomVariate[meanDist /. [Sigma] -> 1, {100000}];
m2 = RandomVariate[
Last@*List @@ Part[a, 1] /. [Sigma] -> 1, {100000}];
Correlation[Thread[List[m1, m2]]]
ListPlot[Thread[List[m1, m2]]]


=>



{{1., -0.00256777}, {-0.00256777, 1.}}


enter image description here

I'm not sure about correlation,but it's okay.






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    I believe that the distributions are not independent. Since $overline{x}$ is computed from $y_i$ and other $y_j$'s, it would seem to be dependent. We could compute whether or not the distributions are dependent ...
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    I would also recommend using 10^6 rather than 100, you'll get a sharper plot!
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    Exactly, the two variables are not independent unfortunately
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I don't know how to get Mathematica to get the joint distribution explicitly for a general value of $n$ but here is how one can easily see the pattern to figure out the general solution.



First the distribution of the mean:



marginalDistribution = TransformedDistribution[Sum[y[i], {i, n}]/n, 
Table[y[i] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {i, n}],
Assumptions -> [Sigma] > 0]
{#, marginalDistribution/.n->#} &/@Range[2,10]


$$
begin{array}{cc}
2 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{2}}right] \
3 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{3}}right] \
4 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{2}right] \
5 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{5}}right] \
6 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{6}}right] \
7 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{7}}right] \
8 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{2 sqrt{2}}right] \
9 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{3}right] \
10 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{10}}right] \
end{array}
$$



So we see that the marginal distribution of $bar{y}$ is



NormalDistribution[0, σ/Sqrt[n]]


The joint distribution of $bar{y}$ and, say, $y_1$ is given by



jointDistribution = TransformedDistribution[{y[1], Sum[y[i], {i, n}]/n}, 
Table[y[i] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {i, n}]]
{#, jointDistribution /. n -> #} & /@ Range[2, 10] // TableForm


$$
begin{array}{cc}
2 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{2} \
frac{sigma ^2}{2} & frac{sigma ^2}{2} \
end{array}
right)right] \
3 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{3} \
frac{sigma ^2}{3} & frac{sigma ^2}{3} \
end{array}
right)right] \
4 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{4} \
frac{sigma ^2}{4} & frac{sigma ^2}{4} \
end{array}
right)right] \
5 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{5} \
frac{sigma ^2}{5} & frac{sigma ^2}{5} \
end{array}
right)right] \
6 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{6} \
frac{sigma ^2}{6} & frac{sigma ^2}{6} \
end{array}
right)right] \
7 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{7} \
frac{sigma ^2}{7} & frac{sigma ^2}{7} \
end{array}
right)right] \
8 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{8} \
frac{sigma ^2}{8} & frac{sigma ^2}{8} \
end{array}
right)right] \
9 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{9} \
frac{sigma ^2}{9} & frac{sigma ^2}{9} \
end{array}
right)right] \
10 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{10} \
frac{sigma ^2}{10} & frac{sigma ^2}{10} \
end{array}
right)right] \
end{array}
$$



So the general distribution is a multivariate normal



MultinormalDistribution[{0, 0}, {{σ^2, σ^2/n}, {σ^2/n, σ^2/n}}]


The general form of the joint density function can then be found with



FullSimplify[PDF[MultinormalDistribution[{0, 0}, {{σ^2, σ^2/n}, {σ^2/n, σ^2/n}}], {y, ybar}],
Assumptions -> {σ > 0, n > 1}]


$$frac{n e^{-frac{n left(n text{ybar}^2+y^2-2 y text{ybar}right)}{2 (n-1) sigma ^2}}}{2 pi sqrt{n-1} sigma ^2}$$






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    Anyway, I like your answer! I'll have to look at it to understand (not obvious (to me) that this would be the solution).
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    Mar 24 at 22:38












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    @mjw Good. Answers should always be scrutinized and challenged if desired.
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    – JimB
    Mar 24 at 22:40












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    Nice! In addition to trying to understand the technique, I checked the marginal integrals. Looks great!
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    Mar 25 at 1:13
















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I don't know how to get Mathematica to get the joint distribution explicitly for a general value of $n$ but here is how one can easily see the pattern to figure out the general solution.



First the distribution of the mean:



marginalDistribution = TransformedDistribution[Sum[y[i], {i, n}]/n, 
Table[y[i] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {i, n}],
Assumptions -> [Sigma] > 0]
{#, marginalDistribution/.n->#} &/@Range[2,10]


$$
begin{array}{cc}
2 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{2}}right] \
3 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{3}}right] \
4 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{2}right] \
5 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{5}}right] \
6 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{6}}right] \
7 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{7}}right] \
8 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{2 sqrt{2}}right] \
9 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{3}right] \
10 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{10}}right] \
end{array}
$$



So we see that the marginal distribution of $bar{y}$ is



NormalDistribution[0, σ/Sqrt[n]]


The joint distribution of $bar{y}$ and, say, $y_1$ is given by



jointDistribution = TransformedDistribution[{y[1], Sum[y[i], {i, n}]/n}, 
Table[y[i] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {i, n}]]
{#, jointDistribution /. n -> #} & /@ Range[2, 10] // TableForm


$$
begin{array}{cc}
2 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{2} \
frac{sigma ^2}{2} & frac{sigma ^2}{2} \
end{array}
right)right] \
3 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{3} \
frac{sigma ^2}{3} & frac{sigma ^2}{3} \
end{array}
right)right] \
4 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{4} \
frac{sigma ^2}{4} & frac{sigma ^2}{4} \
end{array}
right)right] \
5 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{5} \
frac{sigma ^2}{5} & frac{sigma ^2}{5} \
end{array}
right)right] \
6 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{6} \
frac{sigma ^2}{6} & frac{sigma ^2}{6} \
end{array}
right)right] \
7 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{7} \
frac{sigma ^2}{7} & frac{sigma ^2}{7} \
end{array}
right)right] \
8 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{8} \
frac{sigma ^2}{8} & frac{sigma ^2}{8} \
end{array}
right)right] \
9 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{9} \
frac{sigma ^2}{9} & frac{sigma ^2}{9} \
end{array}
right)right] \
10 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{10} \
frac{sigma ^2}{10} & frac{sigma ^2}{10} \
end{array}
right)right] \
end{array}
$$



So the general distribution is a multivariate normal



MultinormalDistribution[{0, 0}, {{σ^2, σ^2/n}, {σ^2/n, σ^2/n}}]


The general form of the joint density function can then be found with



FullSimplify[PDF[MultinormalDistribution[{0, 0}, {{σ^2, σ^2/n}, {σ^2/n, σ^2/n}}], {y, ybar}],
Assumptions -> {σ > 0, n > 1}]


$$frac{n e^{-frac{n left(n text{ybar}^2+y^2-2 y text{ybar}right)}{2 (n-1) sigma ^2}}}{2 pi sqrt{n-1} sigma ^2}$$






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    @mjw Good. Answers should always be scrutinized and challenged if desired.
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    Nice! In addition to trying to understand the technique, I checked the marginal integrals. Looks great!
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    Mar 25 at 1:13














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I don't know how to get Mathematica to get the joint distribution explicitly for a general value of $n$ but here is how one can easily see the pattern to figure out the general solution.



First the distribution of the mean:



marginalDistribution = TransformedDistribution[Sum[y[i], {i, n}]/n, 
Table[y[i] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {i, n}],
Assumptions -> [Sigma] > 0]
{#, marginalDistribution/.n->#} &/@Range[2,10]


$$
begin{array}{cc}
2 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{2}}right] \
3 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{3}}right] \
4 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{2}right] \
5 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{5}}right] \
6 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{6}}right] \
7 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{7}}right] \
8 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{2 sqrt{2}}right] \
9 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{3}right] \
10 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{10}}right] \
end{array}
$$



So we see that the marginal distribution of $bar{y}$ is



NormalDistribution[0, σ/Sqrt[n]]


The joint distribution of $bar{y}$ and, say, $y_1$ is given by



jointDistribution = TransformedDistribution[{y[1], Sum[y[i], {i, n}]/n}, 
Table[y[i] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {i, n}]]
{#, jointDistribution /. n -> #} & /@ Range[2, 10] // TableForm


$$
begin{array}{cc}
2 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{2} \
frac{sigma ^2}{2} & frac{sigma ^2}{2} \
end{array}
right)right] \
3 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{3} \
frac{sigma ^2}{3} & frac{sigma ^2}{3} \
end{array}
right)right] \
4 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{4} \
frac{sigma ^2}{4} & frac{sigma ^2}{4} \
end{array}
right)right] \
5 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{5} \
frac{sigma ^2}{5} & frac{sigma ^2}{5} \
end{array}
right)right] \
6 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{6} \
frac{sigma ^2}{6} & frac{sigma ^2}{6} \
end{array}
right)right] \
7 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{7} \
frac{sigma ^2}{7} & frac{sigma ^2}{7} \
end{array}
right)right] \
8 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{8} \
frac{sigma ^2}{8} & frac{sigma ^2}{8} \
end{array}
right)right] \
9 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{9} \
frac{sigma ^2}{9} & frac{sigma ^2}{9} \
end{array}
right)right] \
10 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{10} \
frac{sigma ^2}{10} & frac{sigma ^2}{10} \
end{array}
right)right] \
end{array}
$$



So the general distribution is a multivariate normal



MultinormalDistribution[{0, 0}, {{σ^2, σ^2/n}, {σ^2/n, σ^2/n}}]


The general form of the joint density function can then be found with



FullSimplify[PDF[MultinormalDistribution[{0, 0}, {{σ^2, σ^2/n}, {σ^2/n, σ^2/n}}], {y, ybar}],
Assumptions -> {σ > 0, n > 1}]


$$frac{n e^{-frac{n left(n text{ybar}^2+y^2-2 y text{ybar}right)}{2 (n-1) sigma ^2}}}{2 pi sqrt{n-1} sigma ^2}$$






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I don't know how to get Mathematica to get the joint distribution explicitly for a general value of $n$ but here is how one can easily see the pattern to figure out the general solution.



First the distribution of the mean:



marginalDistribution = TransformedDistribution[Sum[y[i], {i, n}]/n, 
Table[y[i] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {i, n}],
Assumptions -> [Sigma] > 0]
{#, marginalDistribution/.n->#} &/@Range[2,10]


$$
begin{array}{cc}
2 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{2}}right] \
3 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{3}}right] \
4 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{2}right] \
5 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{5}}right] \
6 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{6}}right] \
7 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{7}}right] \
8 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{2 sqrt{2}}right] \
9 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{3}right] \
10 & text{NormalDistribution}left[0,frac{sigma }{sqrt{10}}right] \
end{array}
$$



So we see that the marginal distribution of $bar{y}$ is



NormalDistribution[0, σ/Sqrt[n]]


The joint distribution of $bar{y}$ and, say, $y_1$ is given by



jointDistribution = TransformedDistribution[{y[1], Sum[y[i], {i, n}]/n}, 
Table[y[i] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {i, n}]]
{#, jointDistribution /. n -> #} & /@ Range[2, 10] // TableForm


$$
begin{array}{cc}
2 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{2} \
frac{sigma ^2}{2} & frac{sigma ^2}{2} \
end{array}
right)right] \
3 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{3} \
frac{sigma ^2}{3} & frac{sigma ^2}{3} \
end{array}
right)right] \
4 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{4} \
frac{sigma ^2}{4} & frac{sigma ^2}{4} \
end{array}
right)right] \
5 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{5} \
frac{sigma ^2}{5} & frac{sigma ^2}{5} \
end{array}
right)right] \
6 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{6} \
frac{sigma ^2}{6} & frac{sigma ^2}{6} \
end{array}
right)right] \
7 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{7} \
frac{sigma ^2}{7} & frac{sigma ^2}{7} \
end{array}
right)right] \
8 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{8} \
frac{sigma ^2}{8} & frac{sigma ^2}{8} \
end{array}
right)right] \
9 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{9} \
frac{sigma ^2}{9} & frac{sigma ^2}{9} \
end{array}
right)right] \
10 & text{MultinormalDistribution}left[{0,0},left(
begin{array}{cc}
sigma ^2 & frac{sigma ^2}{10} \
frac{sigma ^2}{10} & frac{sigma ^2}{10} \
end{array}
right)right] \
end{array}
$$



So the general distribution is a multivariate normal



MultinormalDistribution[{0, 0}, {{σ^2, σ^2/n}, {σ^2/n, σ^2/n}}]


The general form of the joint density function can then be found with



FullSimplify[PDF[MultinormalDistribution[{0, 0}, {{σ^2, σ^2/n}, {σ^2/n, σ^2/n}}], {y, ybar}],
Assumptions -> {σ > 0, n > 1}]


$$frac{n e^{-frac{n left(n text{ybar}^2+y^2-2 y text{ybar}right)}{2 (n-1) sigma ^2}}}{2 pi sqrt{n-1} sigma ^2}$$







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    Anyway, I like your answer! I'll have to look at it to understand (not obvious (to me) that this would be the solution).
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    – mjw
    Mar 24 at 22:38












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    @mjw Good. Answers should always be scrutinized and challenged if desired.
    $endgroup$
    – JimB
    Mar 24 at 22:40












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    Nice! In addition to trying to understand the technique, I checked the marginal integrals. Looks great!
    $endgroup$
    – mjw
    Mar 25 at 1:13


















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    Anyway, I like your answer! I'll have to look at it to understand (not obvious (to me) that this would be the solution).
    $endgroup$
    – mjw
    Mar 24 at 22:38












  • $begingroup$
    @mjw Good. Answers should always be scrutinized and challenged if desired.
    $endgroup$
    – JimB
    Mar 24 at 22:40












  • $begingroup$
    Nice! In addition to trying to understand the technique, I checked the marginal integrals. Looks great!
    $endgroup$
    – mjw
    Mar 25 at 1:13
















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Anyway, I like your answer! I'll have to look at it to understand (not obvious (to me) that this would be the solution).
$endgroup$
– mjw
Mar 24 at 22:38






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Anyway, I like your answer! I'll have to look at it to understand (not obvious (to me) that this would be the solution).
$endgroup$
– mjw
Mar 24 at 22:38














$begingroup$
@mjw Good. Answers should always be scrutinized and challenged if desired.
$endgroup$
– JimB
Mar 24 at 22:40






$begingroup$
@mjw Good. Answers should always be scrutinized and challenged if desired.
$endgroup$
– JimB
Mar 24 at 22:40














$begingroup$
Nice! In addition to trying to understand the technique, I checked the marginal integrals. Looks great!
$endgroup$
– mjw
Mar 25 at 1:13




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Nice! In addition to trying to understand the technique, I checked the marginal integrals. Looks great!
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– mjw
Mar 25 at 1:13











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Here is the distribution of $x=overline{y}$ (Part I of your question):



a[n_] := Table[y[k] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {k, 1, n}]; 
p[n_] := TransformedDistribution[Sum[y[k]/n, {k, n}], a[n]];


Now



x [Distributed] p[5] (* n=5, for example *)


The result is



x [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, Abs[[Sigma]]/Sqrt[5]]





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    I am not sure, but shouldn't be n instead of 5 here TransformedDistribution[Sum[y[k]/n, {k, 5}], a] ? And what if I want to leave n, without assigning a value to n? Thanks @mjw
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    Oh yes, you are right! I started with 10 and changed to five as I was trying it out. I'll fix it ... Thanks!
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    Let's go with five because it is clearer. The result is NormalDistribution[0,[Sigma]/Sqrt[5]]. Not sure why Mathematica puts Abs around $sigma$. Obviously, $sigma>0$.
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    Yes, sure it is clearer. Do you have any idea of how can I use n as a parameter, without assigning a value to n?
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    – Andrea2810
    Mar 24 at 21:24










  • $begingroup$
    a[n_] = Table[y[k] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {k, 1, n}];
    $endgroup$
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    Mar 24 at 21:25


















1












$begingroup$

Here is the distribution of $x=overline{y}$ (Part I of your question):



a[n_] := Table[y[k] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {k, 1, n}]; 
p[n_] := TransformedDistribution[Sum[y[k]/n, {k, n}], a[n]];


Now



x [Distributed] p[5] (* n=5, for example *)


The result is



x [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, Abs[[Sigma]]/Sqrt[5]]





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    I am not sure, but shouldn't be n instead of 5 here TransformedDistribution[Sum[y[k]/n, {k, 5}], a] ? And what if I want to leave n, without assigning a value to n? Thanks @mjw
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    – Andrea2810
    Mar 24 at 21:13












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    Oh yes, you are right! I started with 10 and changed to five as I was trying it out. I'll fix it ... Thanks!
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    Mar 24 at 21:18












  • $begingroup$
    Let's go with five because it is clearer. The result is NormalDistribution[0,[Sigma]/Sqrt[5]]. Not sure why Mathematica puts Abs around $sigma$. Obviously, $sigma>0$.
    $endgroup$
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    Mar 24 at 21:22










  • $begingroup$
    Yes, sure it is clearer. Do you have any idea of how can I use n as a parameter, without assigning a value to n?
    $endgroup$
    – Andrea2810
    Mar 24 at 21:24










  • $begingroup$
    a[n_] = Table[y[k] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {k, 1, n}];
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    Mar 24 at 21:25
















1












1








1





$begingroup$

Here is the distribution of $x=overline{y}$ (Part I of your question):



a[n_] := Table[y[k] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {k, 1, n}]; 
p[n_] := TransformedDistribution[Sum[y[k]/n, {k, n}], a[n]];


Now



x [Distributed] p[5] (* n=5, for example *)


The result is



x [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, Abs[[Sigma]]/Sqrt[5]]





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Here is the distribution of $x=overline{y}$ (Part I of your question):



a[n_] := Table[y[k] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {k, 1, n}]; 
p[n_] := TransformedDistribution[Sum[y[k]/n, {k, n}], a[n]];


Now



x [Distributed] p[5] (* n=5, for example *)


The result is



x [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, Abs[[Sigma]]/Sqrt[5]]






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    I am not sure, but shouldn't be n instead of 5 here TransformedDistribution[Sum[y[k]/n, {k, 5}], a] ? And what if I want to leave n, without assigning a value to n? Thanks @mjw
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    Mar 24 at 21:13












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    Oh yes, you are right! I started with 10 and changed to five as I was trying it out. I'll fix it ... Thanks!
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    Mar 24 at 21:18












  • $begingroup$
    Let's go with five because it is clearer. The result is NormalDistribution[0,[Sigma]/Sqrt[5]]. Not sure why Mathematica puts Abs around $sigma$. Obviously, $sigma>0$.
    $endgroup$
    – mjw
    Mar 24 at 21:22










  • $begingroup$
    Yes, sure it is clearer. Do you have any idea of how can I use n as a parameter, without assigning a value to n?
    $endgroup$
    – Andrea2810
    Mar 24 at 21:24










  • $begingroup$
    a[n_] = Table[y[k] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {k, 1, n}];
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    – mjw
    Mar 24 at 21:25




















  • $begingroup$
    I am not sure, but shouldn't be n instead of 5 here TransformedDistribution[Sum[y[k]/n, {k, 5}], a] ? And what if I want to leave n, without assigning a value to n? Thanks @mjw
    $endgroup$
    – Andrea2810
    Mar 24 at 21:13












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    Oh yes, you are right! I started with 10 and changed to five as I was trying it out. I'll fix it ... Thanks!
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    – mjw
    Mar 24 at 21:18












  • $begingroup$
    Let's go with five because it is clearer. The result is NormalDistribution[0,[Sigma]/Sqrt[5]]. Not sure why Mathematica puts Abs around $sigma$. Obviously, $sigma>0$.
    $endgroup$
    – mjw
    Mar 24 at 21:22










  • $begingroup$
    Yes, sure it is clearer. Do you have any idea of how can I use n as a parameter, without assigning a value to n?
    $endgroup$
    – Andrea2810
    Mar 24 at 21:24










  • $begingroup$
    a[n_] = Table[y[k] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {k, 1, n}];
    $endgroup$
    – mjw
    Mar 24 at 21:25


















$begingroup$
I am not sure, but shouldn't be n instead of 5 here TransformedDistribution[Sum[y[k]/n, {k, 5}], a] ? And what if I want to leave n, without assigning a value to n? Thanks @mjw
$endgroup$
– Andrea2810
Mar 24 at 21:13






$begingroup$
I am not sure, but shouldn't be n instead of 5 here TransformedDistribution[Sum[y[k]/n, {k, 5}], a] ? And what if I want to leave n, without assigning a value to n? Thanks @mjw
$endgroup$
– Andrea2810
Mar 24 at 21:13














$begingroup$
Oh yes, you are right! I started with 10 and changed to five as I was trying it out. I'll fix it ... Thanks!
$endgroup$
– mjw
Mar 24 at 21:18






$begingroup$
Oh yes, you are right! I started with 10 and changed to five as I was trying it out. I'll fix it ... Thanks!
$endgroup$
– mjw
Mar 24 at 21:18














$begingroup$
Let's go with five because it is clearer. The result is NormalDistribution[0,[Sigma]/Sqrt[5]]. Not sure why Mathematica puts Abs around $sigma$. Obviously, $sigma>0$.
$endgroup$
– mjw
Mar 24 at 21:22




$begingroup$
Let's go with five because it is clearer. The result is NormalDistribution[0,[Sigma]/Sqrt[5]]. Not sure why Mathematica puts Abs around $sigma$. Obviously, $sigma>0$.
$endgroup$
– mjw
Mar 24 at 21:22












$begingroup$
Yes, sure it is clearer. Do you have any idea of how can I use n as a parameter, without assigning a value to n?
$endgroup$
– Andrea2810
Mar 24 at 21:24




$begingroup$
Yes, sure it is clearer. Do you have any idea of how can I use n as a parameter, without assigning a value to n?
$endgroup$
– Andrea2810
Mar 24 at 21:24












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a[n_] = Table[y[k] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {k, 1, n}];
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– mjw
Mar 24 at 21:25






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a[n_] = Table[y[k] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {k, 1, n}];
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just modified @mjw's answer,



n = 100;(*for example*)ClearAll[y]; 
a = Table[y[k] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {k, 1, n}];
meanDist = TransformedDistribution[Sum[y[k]/100, {k, 100}], a]


JointDistribution can be composed by ProductDistribution,
if these random variables are independent.

if not,you have to use Copula



joint = ProductDistribution[meanDist, 
Last@*List @@ Part[a, 1]] /. [Sigma] -> 1;
RandomVariate[joint, 100] // Histogram3D


enter image description here



joint = ProductDistribution[meanDist, 
Last@*List @@ Part[a, 1]] /. [Sigma] -> 1;
m1 = RandomVariate[meanDist /. [Sigma] -> 1, {100000}];
m2 = RandomVariate[
Last@*List @@ Part[a, 1] /. [Sigma] -> 1, {100000}];
Correlation[Thread[List[m1, m2]]]
ListPlot[Thread[List[m1, m2]]]


=>



{{1., -0.00256777}, {-0.00256777, 1.}}


enter image description here

I'm not sure about correlation,but it's okay.






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    I believe that the distributions are not independent. Since $overline{x}$ is computed from $y_i$ and other $y_j$'s, it would seem to be dependent. We could compute whether or not the distributions are dependent ...
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    I would also recommend using 10^6 rather than 100, you'll get a sharper plot!
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    Mar 24 at 21:15










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    Exactly, the two variables are not independent unfortunately
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    Mar 24 at 21:18
















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just modified @mjw's answer,



n = 100;(*for example*)ClearAll[y]; 
a = Table[y[k] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {k, 1, n}];
meanDist = TransformedDistribution[Sum[y[k]/100, {k, 100}], a]


JointDistribution can be composed by ProductDistribution,
if these random variables are independent.

if not,you have to use Copula



joint = ProductDistribution[meanDist, 
Last@*List @@ Part[a, 1]] /. [Sigma] -> 1;
RandomVariate[joint, 100] // Histogram3D


enter image description here



joint = ProductDistribution[meanDist, 
Last@*List @@ Part[a, 1]] /. [Sigma] -> 1;
m1 = RandomVariate[meanDist /. [Sigma] -> 1, {100000}];
m2 = RandomVariate[
Last@*List @@ Part[a, 1] /. [Sigma] -> 1, {100000}];
Correlation[Thread[List[m1, m2]]]
ListPlot[Thread[List[m1, m2]]]


=>



{{1., -0.00256777}, {-0.00256777, 1.}}


enter image description here

I'm not sure about correlation,but it's okay.






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    I believe that the distributions are not independent. Since $overline{x}$ is computed from $y_i$ and other $y_j$'s, it would seem to be dependent. We could compute whether or not the distributions are dependent ...
    $endgroup$
    – mjw
    Mar 24 at 21:07










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    I would also recommend using 10^6 rather than 100, you'll get a sharper plot!
    $endgroup$
    – mjw
    Mar 24 at 21:15










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    Exactly, the two variables are not independent unfortunately
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    – Andrea2810
    Mar 24 at 21:18














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just modified @mjw's answer,



n = 100;(*for example*)ClearAll[y]; 
a = Table[y[k] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {k, 1, n}];
meanDist = TransformedDistribution[Sum[y[k]/100, {k, 100}], a]


JointDistribution can be composed by ProductDistribution,
if these random variables are independent.

if not,you have to use Copula



joint = ProductDistribution[meanDist, 
Last@*List @@ Part[a, 1]] /. [Sigma] -> 1;
RandomVariate[joint, 100] // Histogram3D


enter image description here



joint = ProductDistribution[meanDist, 
Last@*List @@ Part[a, 1]] /. [Sigma] -> 1;
m1 = RandomVariate[meanDist /. [Sigma] -> 1, {100000}];
m2 = RandomVariate[
Last@*List @@ Part[a, 1] /. [Sigma] -> 1, {100000}];
Correlation[Thread[List[m1, m2]]]
ListPlot[Thread[List[m1, m2]]]


=>



{{1., -0.00256777}, {-0.00256777, 1.}}


enter image description here

I'm not sure about correlation,but it's okay.






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just modified @mjw's answer,



n = 100;(*for example*)ClearAll[y]; 
a = Table[y[k] [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, [Sigma]], {k, 1, n}];
meanDist = TransformedDistribution[Sum[y[k]/100, {k, 100}], a]


JointDistribution can be composed by ProductDistribution,
if these random variables are independent.

if not,you have to use Copula



joint = ProductDistribution[meanDist, 
Last@*List @@ Part[a, 1]] /. [Sigma] -> 1;
RandomVariate[joint, 100] // Histogram3D


enter image description here



joint = ProductDistribution[meanDist, 
Last@*List @@ Part[a, 1]] /. [Sigma] -> 1;
m1 = RandomVariate[meanDist /. [Sigma] -> 1, {100000}];
m2 = RandomVariate[
Last@*List @@ Part[a, 1] /. [Sigma] -> 1, {100000}];
Correlation[Thread[List[m1, m2]]]
ListPlot[Thread[List[m1, m2]]]


=>



{{1., -0.00256777}, {-0.00256777, 1.}}


enter image description here

I'm not sure about correlation,but it's okay.







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  • $begingroup$
    I believe that the distributions are not independent. Since $overline{x}$ is computed from $y_i$ and other $y_j$'s, it would seem to be dependent. We could compute whether or not the distributions are dependent ...
    $endgroup$
    – mjw
    Mar 24 at 21:07










  • $begingroup$
    I would also recommend using 10^6 rather than 100, you'll get a sharper plot!
    $endgroup$
    – mjw
    Mar 24 at 21:15










  • $begingroup$
    Exactly, the two variables are not independent unfortunately
    $endgroup$
    – Andrea2810
    Mar 24 at 21:18


















  • $begingroup$
    I believe that the distributions are not independent. Since $overline{x}$ is computed from $y_i$ and other $y_j$'s, it would seem to be dependent. We could compute whether or not the distributions are dependent ...
    $endgroup$
    – mjw
    Mar 24 at 21:07










  • $begingroup$
    I would also recommend using 10^6 rather than 100, you'll get a sharper plot!
    $endgroup$
    – mjw
    Mar 24 at 21:15










  • $begingroup$
    Exactly, the two variables are not independent unfortunately
    $endgroup$
    – Andrea2810
    Mar 24 at 21:18
















$begingroup$
I believe that the distributions are not independent. Since $overline{x}$ is computed from $y_i$ and other $y_j$'s, it would seem to be dependent. We could compute whether or not the distributions are dependent ...
$endgroup$
– mjw
Mar 24 at 21:07




$begingroup$
I believe that the distributions are not independent. Since $overline{x}$ is computed from $y_i$ and other $y_j$'s, it would seem to be dependent. We could compute whether or not the distributions are dependent ...
$endgroup$
– mjw
Mar 24 at 21:07












$begingroup$
I would also recommend using 10^6 rather than 100, you'll get a sharper plot!
$endgroup$
– mjw
Mar 24 at 21:15




$begingroup$
I would also recommend using 10^6 rather than 100, you'll get a sharper plot!
$endgroup$
– mjw
Mar 24 at 21:15












$begingroup$
Exactly, the two variables are not independent unfortunately
$endgroup$
– Andrea2810
Mar 24 at 21:18




$begingroup$
Exactly, the two variables are not independent unfortunately
$endgroup$
– Andrea2810
Mar 24 at 21:18










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