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Darboux's Theorem states that" If $f$ is differentiable on $[a,b]$ and if $k$ is a number between $f^{prime}(a)$ and $f^{prime}(b)$, then there is at least one point $cin (a,b)$ such that $f^{prime}(c) = k$."



Most commonly found proof goes as follows:
Suppose that $f^{prime}(a) < k < f^{prime}(b)$. Let $F:[a,b]rightarrow mathbb{R}$ be defined by $F(x) = f(x) -kx$ so that $F^{prime}(x) = f^{prime}(x) -k$. Then $F$ is differentiable on $[a,b]$ because so is the function $f$. We find $F^{prime}(a) = f^{prime}(a) -k <0$ and $F^{prime}(b) = f^{prime}(b) -k >0$. Note that $F^{prime}(a) <0$ means $F(t_1)< F(a)$ for some $t_1in (a,b)$. So, $F$ can not attain its minimum at $x=a$. Also, for $F^{prime}(b)>0$, we can find $t_2in (a,b)$ such that $F(b) < F(t_2)$. Thus neither $a$ nor $b$ can be a point where $F$ attains a local maximum or a local minimum. Since $F$ is continuous on $[a,b]$, it must attain its maximum at some point $cin (a,b)$. This means that $F^{prime}(c) = 0$ and hence $f^{prime}(c) = k$ as desired.



My question is how can one conclude that $F^{prime}(b) > 0$ means $F$ can not attain a maximum at $x=b$, the end point of the interval. Look at the example $f(x) =x^2$ on $[0,1]$, has absolute maximum at $x =1$ though $f^{prime}(1) =2 >0$. Have I misunderstood any logic here? Please somebody explain this. Thanks !!!










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Darboux's Theorem states that" If $f$ is differentiable on $[a,b]$ and if $k$ is a number between $f^{prime}(a)$ and $f^{prime}(b)$, then there is at least one point $cin (a,b)$ such that $f^{prime}(c) = k$."



Most commonly found proof goes as follows:
Suppose that $f^{prime}(a) < k < f^{prime}(b)$. Let $F:[a,b]rightarrow mathbb{R}$ be defined by $F(x) = f(x) -kx$ so that $F^{prime}(x) = f^{prime}(x) -k$. Then $F$ is differentiable on $[a,b]$ because so is the function $f$. We find $F^{prime}(a) = f^{prime}(a) -k <0$ and $F^{prime}(b) = f^{prime}(b) -k >0$. Note that $F^{prime}(a) <0$ means $F(t_1)< F(a)$ for some $t_1in (a,b)$. So, $F$ can not attain its minimum at $x=a$. Also, for $F^{prime}(b)>0$, we can find $t_2in (a,b)$ such that $F(b) < F(t_2)$. Thus neither $a$ nor $b$ can be a point where $F$ attains a local maximum or a local minimum. Since $F$ is continuous on $[a,b]$, it must attain its maximum at some point $cin (a,b)$. This means that $F^{prime}(c) = 0$ and hence $f^{prime}(c) = k$ as desired.



My question is how can one conclude that $F^{prime}(b) > 0$ means $F$ can not attain a maximum at $x=b$, the end point of the interval. Look at the example $f(x) =x^2$ on $[0,1]$, has absolute maximum at $x =1$ though $f^{prime}(1) =2 >0$. Have I misunderstood any logic here? Please somebody explain this. Thanks !!!










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    – Mr. MBB
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Darboux's Theorem states that" If $f$ is differentiable on $[a,b]$ and if $k$ is a number between $f^{prime}(a)$ and $f^{prime}(b)$, then there is at least one point $cin (a,b)$ such that $f^{prime}(c) = k$."



Most commonly found proof goes as follows:
Suppose that $f^{prime}(a) < k < f^{prime}(b)$. Let $F:[a,b]rightarrow mathbb{R}$ be defined by $F(x) = f(x) -kx$ so that $F^{prime}(x) = f^{prime}(x) -k$. Then $F$ is differentiable on $[a,b]$ because so is the function $f$. We find $F^{prime}(a) = f^{prime}(a) -k <0$ and $F^{prime}(b) = f^{prime}(b) -k >0$. Note that $F^{prime}(a) <0$ means $F(t_1)< F(a)$ for some $t_1in (a,b)$. So, $F$ can not attain its minimum at $x=a$. Also, for $F^{prime}(b)>0$, we can find $t_2in (a,b)$ such that $F(b) < F(t_2)$. Thus neither $a$ nor $b$ can be a point where $F$ attains a local maximum or a local minimum. Since $F$ is continuous on $[a,b]$, it must attain its maximum at some point $cin (a,b)$. This means that $F^{prime}(c) = 0$ and hence $f^{prime}(c) = k$ as desired.



My question is how can one conclude that $F^{prime}(b) > 0$ means $F$ can not attain a maximum at $x=b$, the end point of the interval. Look at the example $f(x) =x^2$ on $[0,1]$, has absolute maximum at $x =1$ though $f^{prime}(1) =2 >0$. Have I misunderstood any logic here? Please somebody explain this. Thanks !!!










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Darboux's Theorem states that" If $f$ is differentiable on $[a,b]$ and if $k$ is a number between $f^{prime}(a)$ and $f^{prime}(b)$, then there is at least one point $cin (a,b)$ such that $f^{prime}(c) = k$."



Most commonly found proof goes as follows:
Suppose that $f^{prime}(a) < k < f^{prime}(b)$. Let $F:[a,b]rightarrow mathbb{R}$ be defined by $F(x) = f(x) -kx$ so that $F^{prime}(x) = f^{prime}(x) -k$. Then $F$ is differentiable on $[a,b]$ because so is the function $f$. We find $F^{prime}(a) = f^{prime}(a) -k <0$ and $F^{prime}(b) = f^{prime}(b) -k >0$. Note that $F^{prime}(a) <0$ means $F(t_1)< F(a)$ for some $t_1in (a,b)$. So, $F$ can not attain its minimum at $x=a$. Also, for $F^{prime}(b)>0$, we can find $t_2in (a,b)$ such that $F(b) < F(t_2)$. Thus neither $a$ nor $b$ can be a point where $F$ attains a local maximum or a local minimum. Since $F$ is continuous on $[a,b]$, it must attain its maximum at some point $cin (a,b)$. This means that $F^{prime}(c) = 0$ and hence $f^{prime}(c) = k$ as desired.



My question is how can one conclude that $F^{prime}(b) > 0$ means $F$ can not attain a maximum at $x=b$, the end point of the interval. Look at the example $f(x) =x^2$ on $[0,1]$, has absolute maximum at $x =1$ though $f^{prime}(1) =2 >0$. Have I misunderstood any logic here? Please somebody explain this. Thanks !!!







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  • Does the Extreme value property for a continuous function on a closed interval $[a,b]$ ensures of the existence of local extremum ?
    – Mr. MBB
    Dec 24 '15 at 21:42


















  • Does the Extreme value property for a continuous function on a closed interval $[a,b]$ ensures of the existence of local extremum ?
    – Mr. MBB
    Dec 24 '15 at 21:42
















Does the Extreme value property for a continuous function on a closed interval $[a,b]$ ensures of the existence of local extremum ?
– Mr. MBB
Dec 24 '15 at 21:42




Does the Extreme value property for a continuous function on a closed interval $[a,b]$ ensures of the existence of local extremum ?
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You’ve slightly misstated the argument, and the misstatement is the source of your difficulty. We have $F'(a)=f'(a)-k<0$, so $F$ cannot have its absolute minimum on $[a,b]$ at $a$: there is a $t_1in(a,b)$ such that $F(t_1)<F(a)$. We also have $F'(b)=f'(b)-k>0$, so $F$ cannot have its absolute minimum on $[a,b]$ at $b$, either: there is a $t_2in(a,b)$ such that $F(t_2)<F(b)$. Thus, it must have its absolute minimum on $[a,b]$ at some $cin(a,b)$. By Fermat’s theorem $F'(c)=0$, and hence $f'(c)=k$.






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  • M Scott. As far as I know that $F^{prime} (c) = 0$ is not required for absolute maximum or minimum. I gave an example :$f(x) = x^2, xin [0,1]$ has absolute maximum at $x =1$ without being $F^{prime}(1) =0$.
    – Mr. MBB
    Dec 24 '15 at 22:07








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    @Mr.MBB: It is required when the absolute max. or min. is in the interior of the interval and the function is differentiable. That’s why it’s important that neither $a$ nor $b$ is the min.
    – Brian M. Scott
    Dec 24 '15 at 22:09












  • Thanks professor Scott. I really appreciate your help.
    – Mr. MBB
    Dec 24 '15 at 23:45










  • @Mr.MBB: You’re welcome!
    – Brian M. Scott
    Dec 24 '15 at 23:46










  • $F^{prime}(a) <0$ and $F^{prime}(b)>0$ means $F$ is not monotonic on $[a,b]$. This means that there exists $x<y<z$ all on $[a,b]$ such that(a) $F(x) <F(y)$ and $F(y)>F(z)
    – Mr. MBB
    Dec 27 '15 at 3:32













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You’ve slightly misstated the argument, and the misstatement is the source of your difficulty. We have $F'(a)=f'(a)-k<0$, so $F$ cannot have its absolute minimum on $[a,b]$ at $a$: there is a $t_1in(a,b)$ such that $F(t_1)<F(a)$. We also have $F'(b)=f'(b)-k>0$, so $F$ cannot have its absolute minimum on $[a,b]$ at $b$, either: there is a $t_2in(a,b)$ such that $F(t_2)<F(b)$. Thus, it must have its absolute minimum on $[a,b]$ at some $cin(a,b)$. By Fermat’s theorem $F'(c)=0$, and hence $f'(c)=k$.






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  • M Scott. As far as I know that $F^{prime} (c) = 0$ is not required for absolute maximum or minimum. I gave an example :$f(x) = x^2, xin [0,1]$ has absolute maximum at $x =1$ without being $F^{prime}(1) =0$.
    – Mr. MBB
    Dec 24 '15 at 22:07








  • 2




    @Mr.MBB: It is required when the absolute max. or min. is in the interior of the interval and the function is differentiable. That’s why it’s important that neither $a$ nor $b$ is the min.
    – Brian M. Scott
    Dec 24 '15 at 22:09












  • Thanks professor Scott. I really appreciate your help.
    – Mr. MBB
    Dec 24 '15 at 23:45










  • @Mr.MBB: You’re welcome!
    – Brian M. Scott
    Dec 24 '15 at 23:46










  • $F^{prime}(a) <0$ and $F^{prime}(b)>0$ means $F$ is not monotonic on $[a,b]$. This means that there exists $x<y<z$ all on $[a,b]$ such that(a) $F(x) <F(y)$ and $F(y)>F(z)
    – Mr. MBB
    Dec 27 '15 at 3:32

















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You’ve slightly misstated the argument, and the misstatement is the source of your difficulty. We have $F'(a)=f'(a)-k<0$, so $F$ cannot have its absolute minimum on $[a,b]$ at $a$: there is a $t_1in(a,b)$ such that $F(t_1)<F(a)$. We also have $F'(b)=f'(b)-k>0$, so $F$ cannot have its absolute minimum on $[a,b]$ at $b$, either: there is a $t_2in(a,b)$ such that $F(t_2)<F(b)$. Thus, it must have its absolute minimum on $[a,b]$ at some $cin(a,b)$. By Fermat’s theorem $F'(c)=0$, and hence $f'(c)=k$.






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  • M Scott. As far as I know that $F^{prime} (c) = 0$ is not required for absolute maximum or minimum. I gave an example :$f(x) = x^2, xin [0,1]$ has absolute maximum at $x =1$ without being $F^{prime}(1) =0$.
    – Mr. MBB
    Dec 24 '15 at 22:07








  • 2




    @Mr.MBB: It is required when the absolute max. or min. is in the interior of the interval and the function is differentiable. That’s why it’s important that neither $a$ nor $b$ is the min.
    – Brian M. Scott
    Dec 24 '15 at 22:09












  • Thanks professor Scott. I really appreciate your help.
    – Mr. MBB
    Dec 24 '15 at 23:45










  • @Mr.MBB: You’re welcome!
    – Brian M. Scott
    Dec 24 '15 at 23:46










  • $F^{prime}(a) <0$ and $F^{prime}(b)>0$ means $F$ is not monotonic on $[a,b]$. This means that there exists $x<y<z$ all on $[a,b]$ such that(a) $F(x) <F(y)$ and $F(y)>F(z)
    – Mr. MBB
    Dec 27 '15 at 3:32















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You’ve slightly misstated the argument, and the misstatement is the source of your difficulty. We have $F'(a)=f'(a)-k<0$, so $F$ cannot have its absolute minimum on $[a,b]$ at $a$: there is a $t_1in(a,b)$ such that $F(t_1)<F(a)$. We also have $F'(b)=f'(b)-k>0$, so $F$ cannot have its absolute minimum on $[a,b]$ at $b$, either: there is a $t_2in(a,b)$ such that $F(t_2)<F(b)$. Thus, it must have its absolute minimum on $[a,b]$ at some $cin(a,b)$. By Fermat’s theorem $F'(c)=0$, and hence $f'(c)=k$.






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You’ve slightly misstated the argument, and the misstatement is the source of your difficulty. We have $F'(a)=f'(a)-k<0$, so $F$ cannot have its absolute minimum on $[a,b]$ at $a$: there is a $t_1in(a,b)$ such that $F(t_1)<F(a)$. We also have $F'(b)=f'(b)-k>0$, so $F$ cannot have its absolute minimum on $[a,b]$ at $b$, either: there is a $t_2in(a,b)$ such that $F(t_2)<F(b)$. Thus, it must have its absolute minimum on $[a,b]$ at some $cin(a,b)$. By Fermat’s theorem $F'(c)=0$, and hence $f'(c)=k$.







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  • M Scott. As far as I know that $F^{prime} (c) = 0$ is not required for absolute maximum or minimum. I gave an example :$f(x) = x^2, xin [0,1]$ has absolute maximum at $x =1$ without being $F^{prime}(1) =0$.
    – Mr. MBB
    Dec 24 '15 at 22:07








  • 2




    @Mr.MBB: It is required when the absolute max. or min. is in the interior of the interval and the function is differentiable. That’s why it’s important that neither $a$ nor $b$ is the min.
    – Brian M. Scott
    Dec 24 '15 at 22:09












  • Thanks professor Scott. I really appreciate your help.
    – Mr. MBB
    Dec 24 '15 at 23:45










  • @Mr.MBB: You’re welcome!
    – Brian M. Scott
    Dec 24 '15 at 23:46










  • $F^{prime}(a) <0$ and $F^{prime}(b)>0$ means $F$ is not monotonic on $[a,b]$. This means that there exists $x<y<z$ all on $[a,b]$ such that(a) $F(x) <F(y)$ and $F(y)>F(z)
    – Mr. MBB
    Dec 27 '15 at 3:32




















  • M Scott. As far as I know that $F^{prime} (c) = 0$ is not required for absolute maximum or minimum. I gave an example :$f(x) = x^2, xin [0,1]$ has absolute maximum at $x =1$ without being $F^{prime}(1) =0$.
    – Mr. MBB
    Dec 24 '15 at 22:07








  • 2




    @Mr.MBB: It is required when the absolute max. or min. is in the interior of the interval and the function is differentiable. That’s why it’s important that neither $a$ nor $b$ is the min.
    – Brian M. Scott
    Dec 24 '15 at 22:09












  • Thanks professor Scott. I really appreciate your help.
    – Mr. MBB
    Dec 24 '15 at 23:45










  • @Mr.MBB: You’re welcome!
    – Brian M. Scott
    Dec 24 '15 at 23:46










  • $F^{prime}(a) <0$ and $F^{prime}(b)>0$ means $F$ is not monotonic on $[a,b]$. This means that there exists $x<y<z$ all on $[a,b]$ such that(a) $F(x) <F(y)$ and $F(y)>F(z)
    – Mr. MBB
    Dec 27 '15 at 3:32


















M Scott. As far as I know that $F^{prime} (c) = 0$ is not required for absolute maximum or minimum. I gave an example :$f(x) = x^2, xin [0,1]$ has absolute maximum at $x =1$ without being $F^{prime}(1) =0$.
– Mr. MBB
Dec 24 '15 at 22:07






M Scott. As far as I know that $F^{prime} (c) = 0$ is not required for absolute maximum or minimum. I gave an example :$f(x) = x^2, xin [0,1]$ has absolute maximum at $x =1$ without being $F^{prime}(1) =0$.
– Mr. MBB
Dec 24 '15 at 22:07






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@Mr.MBB: It is required when the absolute max. or min. is in the interior of the interval and the function is differentiable. That’s why it’s important that neither $a$ nor $b$ is the min.
– Brian M. Scott
Dec 24 '15 at 22:09






@Mr.MBB: It is required when the absolute max. or min. is in the interior of the interval and the function is differentiable. That’s why it’s important that neither $a$ nor $b$ is the min.
– Brian M. Scott
Dec 24 '15 at 22:09














Thanks professor Scott. I really appreciate your help.
– Mr. MBB
Dec 24 '15 at 23:45




Thanks professor Scott. I really appreciate your help.
– Mr. MBB
Dec 24 '15 at 23:45












@Mr.MBB: You’re welcome!
– Brian M. Scott
Dec 24 '15 at 23:46




@Mr.MBB: You’re welcome!
– Brian M. Scott
Dec 24 '15 at 23:46












$F^{prime}(a) <0$ and $F^{prime}(b)>0$ means $F$ is not monotonic on $[a,b]$. This means that there exists $x<y<z$ all on $[a,b]$ such that(a) $F(x) <F(y)$ and $F(y)>F(z)
– Mr. MBB
Dec 27 '15 at 3:32






$F^{prime}(a) <0$ and $F^{prime}(b)>0$ means $F$ is not monotonic on $[a,b]$. This means that there exists $x<y<z$ all on $[a,b]$ such that(a) $F(x) <F(y)$ and $F(y)>F(z)
– Mr. MBB
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