Allowing LAN-LAN Cascaded Router to Access Internet
Below diagram is the set up which I am currently trying but doesn't work. My goal here is:
- Both TV Box and PC are under the same subnet 192.168.1.0/24
- Since Router 2 is a SIP client which connected to a desktop phone, it will need access to Internet.
- I need my VPN server working so that I can connect to my home using VPN from my PC or smartphone.
- I could add a switch and make Router 2 a SIP-to-RJ11 convertor only to solve this, but I don't want to do that unless I have no other choice.
Now my problem is: Everything is working now, except the desktop phone doesn't work.
Some information and limitation:
- Router 1 is Synology rt1900ac.
- Router 2 is a router provided from service provider. I only have access to some of the settings, but it is possible to request the service provider to change the other settings for us.
- Router 2 WAN port is configured to connect using DHCP. The service provider claimed that there is no "bridge" connection on WAN port.
- DHCP server on Router 2 is disabled.
- There is a wall between Router 1 and Router 2.
- I can see from Router 1 that Router 2 WAN port seems assigned to 192.168.1.2 using static DHCP from Router 1 but I have no way to verify it, because echo reply seems blocked on Router 2 WAN port.
- I have requested to disable NAT on Router 2, and seems it is disabled right now because I cannot ping to Internet when I set the PC to 172.16.1.11.
- Port forwarding for SIP (TCP/UDP 5060) has been configured on Router 1 to 192.168.1.2.
- Desktop phone is working fine, if I connect Router 1 LAN port to Router 2 WAN port.
So my question is, what options I have in order to achieve my goal?
networking router lan wan
asked May 19 at 16:32
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Below diagram is the set up which I am currently trying but doesn't work. My goal here is:
- Both TV Box and PC are under the same subnet 192.168.1.0/24
- Since Router 2 is a SIP client which connected to a desktop phone, it will need access to Internet.
- I need my VPN server working so that I can connect to my home using VPN from my PC or smartphone.
- I could add a switch and make Router 2 a SIP-to-RJ11 convertor only to solve this, but I don't want to do that unless I have no other choice.
Now my problem is: Everything is working now, except the desktop phone doesn't work.
Some information and limitation:
- Router 1 is Synology rt1900ac.
- Router 2 is a router provided from service provider. I only have access to some of the settings, but it is possible to request the service provider to change the other settings for us.
- Router 2 WAN port is configured to connect using DHCP. The service provider claimed that there is no "bridge" connection on WAN port.
- DHCP server on Router 2 is disabled.
- There is a wall between Router 1 and Router 2.
- I can see from Router 1 that Router 2 WAN port seems assigned to 192.168.1.2 using static DHCP from Router 1 but I have no way to verify it, because echo reply seems blocked on Router 2 WAN port.
- I have requested to disable NAT on Router 2, and seems it is disabled right now because I cannot ping to Internet when I set the PC to 172.16.1.11.
- Port forwarding for SIP (TCP/UDP 5060) has been configured on Router 1 to 192.168.1.2.
- Desktop phone is working fine, if I connect Router 1 LAN port to Router 2 WAN port.
So my question is, what options I have in order to achieve my goal?
networking router lan wan
asked May 19 at 16:32
VCD
1065
Unless your ISP-provided router has some sort of status log/display to show why the phone isn’t working, you can only guess. Keep in mind that SIP doesn’t play very nice with NAT. Your upstream router is most likely misconfigured somehow.
– Daniel B
May 19 at 16:36
I just added more info to the question, actually the phone is working fine if I connect Router 1 LAN port to Router 2 WAN port. So I guess the problem is not related to SIP.
– VCD
May 19 at 16:42
You have setup router2 to have two networks. Given that state, the RJ11 will surely prefer the one that goes through the WAN port. The RJ11 is not just another LAN port. As you don't have networked computers on the router1 side of the wall, you can stay with that configuration.
– harrymc
May 19 at 17:25
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Below diagram is the set up which I am currently trying but doesn't work. My goal here is:
- Both TV Box and PC are under the same subnet 192.168.1.0/24
- Since Router 2 is a SIP client which connected to a desktop phone, it will need access to Internet.
- I need my VPN server working so that I can connect to my home using VPN from my PC or smartphone.
- I could add a switch and make Router 2 a SIP-to-RJ11 convertor only to solve this, but I don't want to do that unless I have no other choice.
Now my problem is: Everything is working now, except the desktop phone doesn't work.
Some information and limitation:
- Router 1 is Synology rt1900ac.
- Router 2 is a router provided from service provider. I only have access to some of the settings, but it is possible to request the service provider to change the other settings for us.
- Router 2 WAN port is configured to connect using DHCP. The service provider claimed that there is no "bridge" connection on WAN port.
- DHCP server on Router 2 is disabled.
- There is a wall between Router 1 and Router 2.
- I can see from Router 1 that Router 2 WAN port seems assigned to 192.168.1.2 using static DHCP from Router 1 but I have no way to verify it, because echo reply seems blocked on Router 2 WAN port.
- I have requested to disable NAT on Router 2, and seems it is disabled right now because I cannot ping to Internet when I set the PC to 172.16.1.11.
- Port forwarding for SIP (TCP/UDP 5060) has been configured on Router 1 to 192.168.1.2.
- Desktop phone is working fine, if I connect Router 1 LAN port to Router 2 WAN port.
So my question is, what options I have in order to achieve my goal?
networking router lan wan
asked May 19 at 16:32
VCD
1065
Below diagram is the set up which I am currently trying but doesn't work. My goal here is:
- Both TV Box and PC are under the same subnet 192.168.1.0/24
- Since Router 2 is a SIP client which connected to a desktop phone, it will need access to Internet.
- I need my VPN server working so that I can connect to my home using VPN from my PC or smartphone.
- I could add a switch and make Router 2 a SIP-to-RJ11 convertor only to solve this, but I don't want to do that unless I have no other choice.
Now my problem is: Everything is working now, except the desktop phone doesn't work.
Some information and limitation:
- Router 1 is Synology rt1900ac.
- Router 2 is a router provided from service provider. I only have access to some of the settings, but it is possible to request the service provider to change the other settings for us.
- Router 2 WAN port is configured to connect using DHCP. The service provider claimed that there is no "bridge" connection on WAN port.
- DHCP server on Router 2 is disabled.
- There is a wall between Router 1 and Router 2.
- I can see from Router 1 that Router 2 WAN port seems assigned to 192.168.1.2 using static DHCP from Router 1 but I have no way to verify it, because echo reply seems blocked on Router 2 WAN port.
- I have requested to disable NAT on Router 2, and seems it is disabled right now because I cannot ping to Internet when I set the PC to 172.16.1.11.
- Port forwarding for SIP (TCP/UDP 5060) has been configured on Router 1 to 192.168.1.2.
- Desktop phone is working fine, if I connect Router 1 LAN port to Router 2 WAN port.
So my question is, what options I have in order to achieve my goal?
networking router lan wan
networking router lan wan
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Unless your ISP-provided router has some sort of status log/display to show why the phone isn’t working, you can only guess. Keep in mind that SIP doesn’t play very nice with NAT. Your upstream router is most likely misconfigured somehow.
– Daniel B
May 19 at 16:36
I just added more info to the question, actually the phone is working fine if I connect Router 1 LAN port to Router 2 WAN port. So I guess the problem is not related to SIP.
– VCD
May 19 at 16:42
You have setup router2 to have two networks. Given that state, the RJ11 will surely prefer the one that goes through the WAN port. The RJ11 is not just another LAN port. As you don't have networked computers on the router1 side of the wall, you can stay with that configuration.
– harrymc
May 19 at 17:25
add a comment |
Unless your ISP-provided router has some sort of status log/display to show why the phone isn’t working, you can only guess. Keep in mind that SIP doesn’t play very nice with NAT. Your upstream router is most likely misconfigured somehow.
– Daniel B
May 19 at 16:36
I just added more info to the question, actually the phone is working fine if I connect Router 1 LAN port to Router 2 WAN port. So I guess the problem is not related to SIP.
– VCD
May 19 at 16:42
You have setup router2 to have two networks. Given that state, the RJ11 will surely prefer the one that goes through the WAN port. The RJ11 is not just another LAN port. As you don't have networked computers on the router1 side of the wall, you can stay with that configuration.
– harrymc
May 19 at 17:25
Unless your ISP-provided router has some sort of status log/display to show why the phone isn’t working, you can only guess. Keep in mind that SIP doesn’t play very nice with NAT. Your upstream router is most likely misconfigured somehow.
– Daniel B
May 19 at 16:36
Unless your ISP-provided router has some sort of status log/display to show why the phone isn’t working, you can only guess. Keep in mind that SIP doesn’t play very nice with NAT. Your upstream router is most likely misconfigured somehow.
– Daniel B
May 19 at 16:36
I just added more info to the question, actually the phone is working fine if I connect Router 1 LAN port to Router 2 WAN port. So I guess the problem is not related to SIP.
– VCD
May 19 at 16:42
I just added more info to the question, actually the phone is working fine if I connect Router 1 LAN port to Router 2 WAN port. So I guess the problem is not related to SIP.
– VCD
May 19 at 16:42
You have setup router2 to have two networks. Given that state, the RJ11 will surely prefer the one that goes through the WAN port. The RJ11 is not just another LAN port. As you don't have networked computers on the router1 side of the wall, you can stay with that configuration.
– harrymc
May 19 at 17:25
You have setup router2 to have two networks. Given that state, the RJ11 will surely prefer the one that goes through the WAN port. The RJ11 is not just another LAN port. As you don't have networked computers on the router1 side of the wall, you can stay with that configuration.
– harrymc
May 19 at 17:25
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You have setup router2 to have two networks, but the RJ11 will try to use
the one that goes through the WAN port.
The RJ11 is after all not just another LAN port.
As you don't have networked computers on the router1 side of the wall, you can stay with the configuration where Router 1 LAN port is connected to
Router 2 WAN port, thus creating its own network segment.
If the reason for your particular setup is that you are trying to isolate
one computer from the others, you can achieve that by using
VLANs,
if supported by router2, or add a third router
(which will not help the performance of the isolated computer).
answered May 19 at 19:41
harrymc
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If Router 1 LAN port is connected to Router 2 WAN port, how can I achieve my goal 2 "Both TV Box and PC are under the same subnet 192.168.1.0/24"? Regarding isolation, no, I don't really need to have isolation here.
– VCD
May 20 at 3:00
A physical solution is to draw a cable back through the wall to the TV, or use power line adapters. A software solution is to add routes to the computer to the other network so it can access the TV.
– harrymc
May 20 at 6:12
Sorry I cannot understand your software solution. Would you mind edit your answer and explain in more details with IP addresses, actual route configuration, LAN configuration of Router 2, etc, that will be used? Physical solution is what I tried to avoid.
– VCD
May 20 at 15:41
add a comment |
After a lot of trial and error, I could't found a solution and ended up using the following setup. That is, using the Router 2 for solely for phone purpose. Thanks everyone for giving suggestion so far.
answered Dec 2 at 10:40
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You have setup router2 to have two networks, but the RJ11 will try to use
the one that goes through the WAN port.
The RJ11 is after all not just another LAN port.
As you don't have networked computers on the router1 side of the wall, you can stay with the configuration where Router 1 LAN port is connected to
Router 2 WAN port, thus creating its own network segment.
If the reason for your particular setup is that you are trying to isolate
one computer from the others, you can achieve that by using
VLANs,
if supported by router2, or add a third router
(which will not help the performance of the isolated computer).
answered May 19 at 19:41
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If Router 1 LAN port is connected to Router 2 WAN port, how can I achieve my goal 2 "Both TV Box and PC are under the same subnet 192.168.1.0/24"? Regarding isolation, no, I don't really need to have isolation here.
– VCD
May 20 at 3:00
A physical solution is to draw a cable back through the wall to the TV, or use power line adapters. A software solution is to add routes to the computer to the other network so it can access the TV.
– harrymc
May 20 at 6:12
Sorry I cannot understand your software solution. Would you mind edit your answer and explain in more details with IP addresses, actual route configuration, LAN configuration of Router 2, etc, that will be used? Physical solution is what I tried to avoid.
– VCD
May 20 at 15:41
add a comment |
You have setup router2 to have two networks, but the RJ11 will try to use
the one that goes through the WAN port.
The RJ11 is after all not just another LAN port.
As you don't have networked computers on the router1 side of the wall, you can stay with the configuration where Router 1 LAN port is connected to
Router 2 WAN port, thus creating its own network segment.
If the reason for your particular setup is that you are trying to isolate
one computer from the others, you can achieve that by using
VLANs,
if supported by router2, or add a third router
(which will not help the performance of the isolated computer).
answered May 19 at 19:41
harrymc
252k12259560
If Router 1 LAN port is connected to Router 2 WAN port, how can I achieve my goal 2 "Both TV Box and PC are under the same subnet 192.168.1.0/24"? Regarding isolation, no, I don't really need to have isolation here.
– VCD
May 20 at 3:00
A physical solution is to draw a cable back through the wall to the TV, or use power line adapters. A software solution is to add routes to the computer to the other network so it can access the TV.
– harrymc
May 20 at 6:12
Sorry I cannot understand your software solution. Would you mind edit your answer and explain in more details with IP addresses, actual route configuration, LAN configuration of Router 2, etc, that will be used? Physical solution is what I tried to avoid.
– VCD
May 20 at 15:41
add a comment |
You have setup router2 to have two networks, but the RJ11 will try to use
the one that goes through the WAN port.
The RJ11 is after all not just another LAN port.
As you don't have networked computers on the router1 side of the wall, you can stay with the configuration where Router 1 LAN port is connected to
Router 2 WAN port, thus creating its own network segment.
If the reason for your particular setup is that you are trying to isolate
one computer from the others, you can achieve that by using
VLANs,
if supported by router2, or add a third router
(which will not help the performance of the isolated computer).
answered May 19 at 19:41
harrymc
252k12259560
You have setup router2 to have two networks, but the RJ11 will try to use
the one that goes through the WAN port.
The RJ11 is after all not just another LAN port.
As you don't have networked computers on the router1 side of the wall, you can stay with the configuration where Router 1 LAN port is connected to
Router 2 WAN port, thus creating its own network segment.
If the reason for your particular setup is that you are trying to isolate
one computer from the others, you can achieve that by using
VLANs,
if supported by router2, or add a third router
(which will not help the performance of the isolated computer).
answered May 19 at 19:41
harrymc
252k12259560
answered May 19 at 19:41
harrymc
252k12259560
answered May 19 at 19:41
harrymc
252k12259560
answered May 19 at 19:41
harrymc
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If Router 1 LAN port is connected to Router 2 WAN port, how can I achieve my goal 2 "Both TV Box and PC are under the same subnet 192.168.1.0/24"? Regarding isolation, no, I don't really need to have isolation here.
– VCD
May 20 at 3:00
A physical solution is to draw a cable back through the wall to the TV, or use power line adapters. A software solution is to add routes to the computer to the other network so it can access the TV.
– harrymc
May 20 at 6:12
Sorry I cannot understand your software solution. Would you mind edit your answer and explain in more details with IP addresses, actual route configuration, LAN configuration of Router 2, etc, that will be used? Physical solution is what I tried to avoid.
– VCD
May 20 at 15:41
add a comment |
If Router 1 LAN port is connected to Router 2 WAN port, how can I achieve my goal 2 "Both TV Box and PC are under the same subnet 192.168.1.0/24"? Regarding isolation, no, I don't really need to have isolation here.
– VCD
May 20 at 3:00
A physical solution is to draw a cable back through the wall to the TV, or use power line adapters. A software solution is to add routes to the computer to the other network so it can access the TV.
– harrymc
May 20 at 6:12
Sorry I cannot understand your software solution. Would you mind edit your answer and explain in more details with IP addresses, actual route configuration, LAN configuration of Router 2, etc, that will be used? Physical solution is what I tried to avoid.
– VCD
May 20 at 15:41
If Router 1 LAN port is connected to Router 2 WAN port, how can I achieve my goal 2 "Both TV Box and PC are under the same subnet 192.168.1.0/24"? Regarding isolation, no, I don't really need to have isolation here.
– VCD
May 20 at 3:00
If Router 1 LAN port is connected to Router 2 WAN port, how can I achieve my goal 2 "Both TV Box and PC are under the same subnet 192.168.1.0/24"? Regarding isolation, no, I don't really need to have isolation here.
– VCD
May 20 at 3:00
A physical solution is to draw a cable back through the wall to the TV, or use power line adapters. A software solution is to add routes to the computer to the other network so it can access the TV.
– harrymc
May 20 at 6:12
A physical solution is to draw a cable back through the wall to the TV, or use power line adapters. A software solution is to add routes to the computer to the other network so it can access the TV.
– harrymc
May 20 at 6:12
Sorry I cannot understand your software solution. Would you mind edit your answer and explain in more details with IP addresses, actual route configuration, LAN configuration of Router 2, etc, that will be used? Physical solution is what I tried to avoid.
– VCD
May 20 at 15:41
Sorry I cannot understand your software solution. Would you mind edit your answer and explain in more details with IP addresses, actual route configuration, LAN configuration of Router 2, etc, that will be used? Physical solution is what I tried to avoid.
– VCD
May 20 at 15:41
add a comment |
After a lot of trial and error, I could't found a solution and ended up using the following setup. That is, using the Router 2 for solely for phone purpose. Thanks everyone for giving suggestion so far.
answered Dec 2 at 10:40
VCD
1065
add a comment |
After a lot of trial and error, I could't found a solution and ended up using the following setup. That is, using the Router 2 for solely for phone purpose. Thanks everyone for giving suggestion so far.
answered Dec 2 at 10:40
VCD
1065
add a comment |
After a lot of trial and error, I could't found a solution and ended up using the following setup. That is, using the Router 2 for solely for phone purpose. Thanks everyone for giving suggestion so far.
answered Dec 2 at 10:40
VCD
1065
After a lot of trial and error, I could't found a solution and ended up using the following setup. That is, using the Router 2 for solely for phone purpose. Thanks everyone for giving suggestion so far.
answered Dec 2 at 10:40
VCD
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answered Dec 2 at 10:40
VCD
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answered Dec 2 at 10:40
VCD
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Unless your ISP-provided router has some sort of status log/display to show why the phone isn’t working, you can only guess. Keep in mind that SIP doesn’t play very nice with NAT. Your upstream router is most likely misconfigured somehow.
– Daniel B
May 19 at 16:36
I just added more info to the question, actually the phone is working fine if I connect Router 1 LAN port to Router 2 WAN port. So I guess the problem is not related to SIP.
– VCD
May 19 at 16:42
You have setup router2 to have two networks. Given that state, the RJ11 will surely prefer the one that goes through the WAN port. The RJ11 is not just another LAN port. As you don't have networked computers on the router1 side of the wall, you can stay with that configuration.
– harrymc
May 19 at 17:25