Determine critical points of 2 variable functions without 2nd derivative test












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I'm new to two variable calculus and having trouble classifying critical points for some functions which the second derivative test isn't really applicable.



E.g.



$$f(x,y) = x^2+y^2+x^2y+4 $$



$f_x=2x+2xy=0$



$f_y=2y+x^2=0$



Critical Point $(0,0)$



But I don't know how to determine the nature of this critical point.










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    I'm new to two variable calculus and having trouble classifying critical points for some functions which the second derivative test isn't really applicable.



    E.g.



    $$f(x,y) = x^2+y^2+x^2y+4 $$



    $f_x=2x+2xy=0$



    $f_y=2y+x^2=0$



    Critical Point $(0,0)$



    But I don't know how to determine the nature of this critical point.










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      I'm new to two variable calculus and having trouble classifying critical points for some functions which the second derivative test isn't really applicable.



      E.g.



      $$f(x,y) = x^2+y^2+x^2y+4 $$



      $f_x=2x+2xy=0$



      $f_y=2y+x^2=0$



      Critical Point $(0,0)$



      But I don't know how to determine the nature of this critical point.










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      I'm new to two variable calculus and having trouble classifying critical points for some functions which the second derivative test isn't really applicable.



      E.g.



      $$f(x,y) = x^2+y^2+x^2y+4 $$



      $f_x=2x+2xy=0$



      $f_y=2y+x^2=0$



      Critical Point $(0,0)$



      But I don't know how to determine the nature of this critical point.







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          Express your objective function as:
          $$f(x,y)=x^2(1+y)+y^2+4.$$
          Note that in the close neighborhood of $(0,0)$, the objective function is greater than or equal to $4$, hence $f(0,0)=4$ is the local minimum.






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            Two more critical points are $(sqrt 2,-1)$ and $(-sqrt 2,-1)$. For finding the nature we use the hessian matrix as following $$H=begin{bmatrix}2+2y&2x\2x& 2yend{bmatrix}$$The eigenvalues of $H$ for $(pm sqrt 2,-1)$ are $$lambda (lambda+2)-8=0\to lambda_1=2,lambda_2=-4$$therefore the points $(pm sqrt 2,-1)$ are saddle points. For $(0,0)$ we have $Hsucceq 0$. Hence $(0,0)$ is a local minimum.






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            Express your objective function as:
            $$f(x,y)=x^2(1+y)+y^2+4.$$
            Note that in the close neighborhood of $(0,0)$, the objective function is greater than or equal to $4$, hence $f(0,0)=4$ is the local minimum.






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              Express your objective function as:
              $$f(x,y)=x^2(1+y)+y^2+4.$$
              Note that in the close neighborhood of $(0,0)$, the objective function is greater than or equal to $4$, hence $f(0,0)=4$ is the local minimum.






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                Express your objective function as:
                $$f(x,y)=x^2(1+y)+y^2+4.$$
                Note that in the close neighborhood of $(0,0)$, the objective function is greater than or equal to $4$, hence $f(0,0)=4$ is the local minimum.






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                Express your objective function as:
                $$f(x,y)=x^2(1+y)+y^2+4.$$
                Note that in the close neighborhood of $(0,0)$, the objective function is greater than or equal to $4$, hence $f(0,0)=4$ is the local minimum.







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                    Two more critical points are $(sqrt 2,-1)$ and $(-sqrt 2,-1)$. For finding the nature we use the hessian matrix as following $$H=begin{bmatrix}2+2y&2x\2x& 2yend{bmatrix}$$The eigenvalues of $H$ for $(pm sqrt 2,-1)$ are $$lambda (lambda+2)-8=0\to lambda_1=2,lambda_2=-4$$therefore the points $(pm sqrt 2,-1)$ are saddle points. For $(0,0)$ we have $Hsucceq 0$. Hence $(0,0)$ is a local minimum.






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                    Two more critical points are $(sqrt 2,-1)$ and $(-sqrt 2,-1)$. For finding the nature we use the hessian matrix as following $$H=begin{bmatrix}2+2y&2x\2x& 2yend{bmatrix}$$The eigenvalues of $H$ for $(pm sqrt 2,-1)$ are $$lambda (lambda+2)-8=0\to lambda_1=2,lambda_2=-4$$therefore the points $(pm sqrt 2,-1)$ are saddle points. For $(0,0)$ we have $Hsucceq 0$. Hence $(0,0)$ is a local minimum.






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                    Two more critical points are $(sqrt 2,-1)$ and $(-sqrt 2,-1)$. For finding the nature we use the hessian matrix as following $$H=begin{bmatrix}2+2y&2x\2x& 2yend{bmatrix}$$The eigenvalues of $H$ for $(pm sqrt 2,-1)$ are $$lambda (lambda+2)-8=0\to lambda_1=2,lambda_2=-4$$therefore the points $(pm sqrt 2,-1)$ are saddle points. For $(0,0)$ we have $Hsucceq 0$. Hence $(0,0)$ is a local minimum.






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                    Two more critical points are $(sqrt 2,-1)$ and $(-sqrt 2,-1)$. For finding the nature we use the hessian matrix as following $$H=begin{bmatrix}2+2y&2x\2x& 2yend{bmatrix}$$The eigenvalues of $H$ for $(pm sqrt 2,-1)$ are $$lambda (lambda+2)-8=0\to lambda_1=2,lambda_2=-4$$therefore the points $(pm sqrt 2,-1)$ are saddle points. For $(0,0)$ we have $Hsucceq 0$. Hence $(0,0)$ is a local minimum.







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