Why it is necessary to have $yle 0$ in the given problem?











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Find the maximum and minimum values of $f(x,y)=xy$ subject to the constraint $x^2−y=12$. Assume that $y≤0$ for this problem. Why is this assumption needed?



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I just want to know the necessity of the last part .why it should be $yle0$.please be elaborate and yes,graphical analysis will be appreciated . Thank you.










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Find the maximum and minimum values of $f(x,y)=xy$ subject to the constraint $x^2−y=12$. Assume that $y≤0$ for this problem. Why is this assumption needed?



NOTE:
I just want to know the necessity of the last part .why it should be $yle0$.please be elaborate and yes,graphical analysis will be appreciated . Thank you.










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  • @Decaf-Math I don't see the relevance of this comment.
    – suchan
    Nov 17 at 4:28










  • sorry?I didn't get your question.
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 4:30










  • There was no question. Someone had left a misleading comment but it is deleted now.
    – suchan
    Nov 17 at 4:38













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Find the maximum and minimum values of $f(x,y)=xy$ subject to the constraint $x^2−y=12$. Assume that $y≤0$ for this problem. Why is this assumption needed?



NOTE:
I just want to know the necessity of the last part .why it should be $yle0$.please be elaborate and yes,graphical analysis will be appreciated . Thank you.










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Find the maximum and minimum values of $f(x,y)=xy$ subject to the constraint $x^2−y=12$. Assume that $y≤0$ for this problem. Why is this assumption needed?



NOTE:
I just want to know the necessity of the last part .why it should be $yle0$.please be elaborate and yes,graphical analysis will be appreciated . Thank you.







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  • @Decaf-Math I don't see the relevance of this comment.
    – suchan
    Nov 17 at 4:28










  • sorry?I didn't get your question.
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 4:30










  • There was no question. Someone had left a misleading comment but it is deleted now.
    – suchan
    Nov 17 at 4:38


















  • @Decaf-Math I don't see the relevance of this comment.
    – suchan
    Nov 17 at 4:28










  • sorry?I didn't get your question.
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 4:30










  • There was no question. Someone had left a misleading comment but it is deleted now.
    – suchan
    Nov 17 at 4:38
















@Decaf-Math I don't see the relevance of this comment.
– suchan
Nov 17 at 4:28




@Decaf-Math I don't see the relevance of this comment.
– suchan
Nov 17 at 4:28












sorry?I didn't get your question.
– Rakibul Islam Prince
Nov 17 at 4:30




sorry?I didn't get your question.
– Rakibul Islam Prince
Nov 17 at 4:30












There was no question. Someone had left a misleading comment but it is deleted now.
– suchan
Nov 17 at 4:38




There was no question. Someone had left a misleading comment but it is deleted now.
– suchan
Nov 17 at 4:38










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Let's see what happens if this constraint is not asserted.



The problem then become to optimize $x(x^2-12)$ which is an cubic equation which has no maximum nor minimum, making the question too simple for you.



enter image description here



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  • But,why then the part is given?
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 4:33










  • so that it is more interesting to you? rather than immediately saying that there is no maximum and minimum.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Nov 17 at 4:35










  • As was explained, if a constraint like $y le 0$ were not given, then the problem would not make any sense since $f(x,y)$ would have no global extreme values.
    – suchan
    Nov 17 at 4:36










  • If you reduce the problem to a question in $x$ again given the constraint, the question has a maximum and minimum. It make things more fun.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Nov 17 at 4:38










  • sorry...still i can't feel it.would you please please add a graph.
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 5:00













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Let's see what happens if this constraint is not asserted.



The problem then become to optimize $x(x^2-12)$ which is an cubic equation which has no maximum nor minimum, making the question too simple for you.



enter image description here



enter image description here






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  • But,why then the part is given?
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 4:33










  • so that it is more interesting to you? rather than immediately saying that there is no maximum and minimum.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Nov 17 at 4:35










  • As was explained, if a constraint like $y le 0$ were not given, then the problem would not make any sense since $f(x,y)$ would have no global extreme values.
    – suchan
    Nov 17 at 4:36










  • If you reduce the problem to a question in $x$ again given the constraint, the question has a maximum and minimum. It make things more fun.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Nov 17 at 4:38










  • sorry...still i can't feel it.would you please please add a graph.
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 5:00

















up vote
3
down vote



accepted










Let's see what happens if this constraint is not asserted.



The problem then become to optimize $x(x^2-12)$ which is an cubic equation which has no maximum nor minimum, making the question too simple for you.



enter image description here



enter image description here






share|cite|improve this answer























  • But,why then the part is given?
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 4:33










  • so that it is more interesting to you? rather than immediately saying that there is no maximum and minimum.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Nov 17 at 4:35










  • As was explained, if a constraint like $y le 0$ were not given, then the problem would not make any sense since $f(x,y)$ would have no global extreme values.
    – suchan
    Nov 17 at 4:36










  • If you reduce the problem to a question in $x$ again given the constraint, the question has a maximum and minimum. It make things more fun.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Nov 17 at 4:38










  • sorry...still i can't feel it.would you please please add a graph.
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 5:00















up vote
3
down vote



accepted







up vote
3
down vote



accepted






Let's see what happens if this constraint is not asserted.



The problem then become to optimize $x(x^2-12)$ which is an cubic equation which has no maximum nor minimum, making the question too simple for you.



enter image description here



enter image description here






share|cite|improve this answer














Let's see what happens if this constraint is not asserted.



The problem then become to optimize $x(x^2-12)$ which is an cubic equation which has no maximum nor minimum, making the question too simple for you.



enter image description here



enter image description here







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  • But,why then the part is given?
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 4:33










  • so that it is more interesting to you? rather than immediately saying that there is no maximum and minimum.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Nov 17 at 4:35










  • As was explained, if a constraint like $y le 0$ were not given, then the problem would not make any sense since $f(x,y)$ would have no global extreme values.
    – suchan
    Nov 17 at 4:36










  • If you reduce the problem to a question in $x$ again given the constraint, the question has a maximum and minimum. It make things more fun.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Nov 17 at 4:38










  • sorry...still i can't feel it.would you please please add a graph.
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 5:00




















  • But,why then the part is given?
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 4:33










  • so that it is more interesting to you? rather than immediately saying that there is no maximum and minimum.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Nov 17 at 4:35










  • As was explained, if a constraint like $y le 0$ were not given, then the problem would not make any sense since $f(x,y)$ would have no global extreme values.
    – suchan
    Nov 17 at 4:36










  • If you reduce the problem to a question in $x$ again given the constraint, the question has a maximum and minimum. It make things more fun.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Nov 17 at 4:38










  • sorry...still i can't feel it.would you please please add a graph.
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 5:00


















But,why then the part is given?
– Rakibul Islam Prince
Nov 17 at 4:33




But,why then the part is given?
– Rakibul Islam Prince
Nov 17 at 4:33












so that it is more interesting to you? rather than immediately saying that there is no maximum and minimum.
– Siong Thye Goh
Nov 17 at 4:35




so that it is more interesting to you? rather than immediately saying that there is no maximum and minimum.
– Siong Thye Goh
Nov 17 at 4:35












As was explained, if a constraint like $y le 0$ were not given, then the problem would not make any sense since $f(x,y)$ would have no global extreme values.
– suchan
Nov 17 at 4:36




As was explained, if a constraint like $y le 0$ were not given, then the problem would not make any sense since $f(x,y)$ would have no global extreme values.
– suchan
Nov 17 at 4:36












If you reduce the problem to a question in $x$ again given the constraint, the question has a maximum and minimum. It make things more fun.
– Siong Thye Goh
Nov 17 at 4:38




If you reduce the problem to a question in $x$ again given the constraint, the question has a maximum and minimum. It make things more fun.
– Siong Thye Goh
Nov 17 at 4:38












sorry...still i can't feel it.would you please please add a graph.
– Rakibul Islam Prince
Nov 17 at 5:00






sorry...still i can't feel it.would you please please add a graph.
– Rakibul Islam Prince
Nov 17 at 5:00




















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