Why it is necessary to have $yle 0$ in the given problem?











up vote
1
down vote

favorite












Find the maximum and minimum values of $f(x,y)=xy$ subject to the constraint $x^2−y=12$. Assume that $y≤0$ for this problem. Why is this assumption needed?



NOTE:
I just want to know the necessity of the last part .why it should be $yle0$.please be elaborate and yes,graphical analysis will be appreciated . Thank you.










share|cite|improve this question






















  • @Decaf-Math I don't see the relevance of this comment.
    – suchan
    Nov 17 at 4:28










  • sorry?I didn't get your question.
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 4:30










  • There was no question. Someone had left a misleading comment but it is deleted now.
    – suchan
    Nov 17 at 4:38















up vote
1
down vote

favorite












Find the maximum and minimum values of $f(x,y)=xy$ subject to the constraint $x^2−y=12$. Assume that $y≤0$ for this problem. Why is this assumption needed?



NOTE:
I just want to know the necessity of the last part .why it should be $yle0$.please be elaborate and yes,graphical analysis will be appreciated . Thank you.










share|cite|improve this question






















  • @Decaf-Math I don't see the relevance of this comment.
    – suchan
    Nov 17 at 4:28










  • sorry?I didn't get your question.
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 4:30










  • There was no question. Someone had left a misleading comment but it is deleted now.
    – suchan
    Nov 17 at 4:38













up vote
1
down vote

favorite









up vote
1
down vote

favorite











Find the maximum and minimum values of $f(x,y)=xy$ subject to the constraint $x^2−y=12$. Assume that $y≤0$ for this problem. Why is this assumption needed?



NOTE:
I just want to know the necessity of the last part .why it should be $yle0$.please be elaborate and yes,graphical analysis will be appreciated . Thank you.










share|cite|improve this question













Find the maximum and minimum values of $f(x,y)=xy$ subject to the constraint $x^2−y=12$. Assume that $y≤0$ for this problem. Why is this assumption needed?



NOTE:
I just want to know the necessity of the last part .why it should be $yle0$.please be elaborate and yes,graphical analysis will be appreciated . Thank you.







multivariable-calculus lagrange-multiplier






share|cite|improve this question













share|cite|improve this question











share|cite|improve this question




share|cite|improve this question










asked Nov 17 at 4:20









Rakibul Islam Prince

818211




818211












  • @Decaf-Math I don't see the relevance of this comment.
    – suchan
    Nov 17 at 4:28










  • sorry?I didn't get your question.
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 4:30










  • There was no question. Someone had left a misleading comment but it is deleted now.
    – suchan
    Nov 17 at 4:38


















  • @Decaf-Math I don't see the relevance of this comment.
    – suchan
    Nov 17 at 4:28










  • sorry?I didn't get your question.
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 4:30










  • There was no question. Someone had left a misleading comment but it is deleted now.
    – suchan
    Nov 17 at 4:38
















@Decaf-Math I don't see the relevance of this comment.
– suchan
Nov 17 at 4:28




@Decaf-Math I don't see the relevance of this comment.
– suchan
Nov 17 at 4:28












sorry?I didn't get your question.
– Rakibul Islam Prince
Nov 17 at 4:30




sorry?I didn't get your question.
– Rakibul Islam Prince
Nov 17 at 4:30












There was no question. Someone had left a misleading comment but it is deleted now.
– suchan
Nov 17 at 4:38




There was no question. Someone had left a misleading comment but it is deleted now.
– suchan
Nov 17 at 4:38










1 Answer
1






active

oldest

votes

















up vote
3
down vote



accepted










Let's see what happens if this constraint is not asserted.



The problem then become to optimize $x(x^2-12)$ which is an cubic equation which has no maximum nor minimum, making the question too simple for you.



enter image description here



enter image description here






share|cite|improve this answer























  • But,why then the part is given?
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 4:33










  • so that it is more interesting to you? rather than immediately saying that there is no maximum and minimum.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Nov 17 at 4:35










  • As was explained, if a constraint like $y le 0$ were not given, then the problem would not make any sense since $f(x,y)$ would have no global extreme values.
    – suchan
    Nov 17 at 4:36










  • If you reduce the problem to a question in $x$ again given the constraint, the question has a maximum and minimum. It make things more fun.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Nov 17 at 4:38










  • sorry...still i can't feel it.would you please please add a graph.
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 5:00













Your Answer





StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
});
});
}, "mathjax-editing");

StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "69"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});

function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
convertImagesToLinks: true,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: 10,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});


}
});














draft saved

draft discarded


















StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3001966%2fwhy-it-is-necessary-to-have-y-le-0-in-the-given-problem%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);

Post as a guest















Required, but never shown

























1 Answer
1






active

oldest

votes








1 Answer
1






active

oldest

votes









active

oldest

votes






active

oldest

votes








up vote
3
down vote



accepted










Let's see what happens if this constraint is not asserted.



The problem then become to optimize $x(x^2-12)$ which is an cubic equation which has no maximum nor minimum, making the question too simple for you.



enter image description here



enter image description here






share|cite|improve this answer























  • But,why then the part is given?
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 4:33










  • so that it is more interesting to you? rather than immediately saying that there is no maximum and minimum.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Nov 17 at 4:35










  • As was explained, if a constraint like $y le 0$ were not given, then the problem would not make any sense since $f(x,y)$ would have no global extreme values.
    – suchan
    Nov 17 at 4:36










  • If you reduce the problem to a question in $x$ again given the constraint, the question has a maximum and minimum. It make things more fun.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Nov 17 at 4:38










  • sorry...still i can't feel it.would you please please add a graph.
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 5:00

















up vote
3
down vote



accepted










Let's see what happens if this constraint is not asserted.



The problem then become to optimize $x(x^2-12)$ which is an cubic equation which has no maximum nor minimum, making the question too simple for you.



enter image description here



enter image description here






share|cite|improve this answer























  • But,why then the part is given?
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 4:33










  • so that it is more interesting to you? rather than immediately saying that there is no maximum and minimum.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Nov 17 at 4:35










  • As was explained, if a constraint like $y le 0$ were not given, then the problem would not make any sense since $f(x,y)$ would have no global extreme values.
    – suchan
    Nov 17 at 4:36










  • If you reduce the problem to a question in $x$ again given the constraint, the question has a maximum and minimum. It make things more fun.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Nov 17 at 4:38










  • sorry...still i can't feel it.would you please please add a graph.
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 5:00















up vote
3
down vote



accepted







up vote
3
down vote



accepted






Let's see what happens if this constraint is not asserted.



The problem then become to optimize $x(x^2-12)$ which is an cubic equation which has no maximum nor minimum, making the question too simple for you.



enter image description here



enter image description here






share|cite|improve this answer














Let's see what happens if this constraint is not asserted.



The problem then become to optimize $x(x^2-12)$ which is an cubic equation which has no maximum nor minimum, making the question too simple for you.



enter image description here



enter image description here







share|cite|improve this answer














share|cite|improve this answer



share|cite|improve this answer








edited Nov 17 at 5:23

























answered Nov 17 at 4:26









Siong Thye Goh

95.7k1462116




95.7k1462116












  • But,why then the part is given?
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 4:33










  • so that it is more interesting to you? rather than immediately saying that there is no maximum and minimum.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Nov 17 at 4:35










  • As was explained, if a constraint like $y le 0$ were not given, then the problem would not make any sense since $f(x,y)$ would have no global extreme values.
    – suchan
    Nov 17 at 4:36










  • If you reduce the problem to a question in $x$ again given the constraint, the question has a maximum and minimum. It make things more fun.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Nov 17 at 4:38










  • sorry...still i can't feel it.would you please please add a graph.
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 5:00




















  • But,why then the part is given?
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 4:33










  • so that it is more interesting to you? rather than immediately saying that there is no maximum and minimum.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Nov 17 at 4:35










  • As was explained, if a constraint like $y le 0$ were not given, then the problem would not make any sense since $f(x,y)$ would have no global extreme values.
    – suchan
    Nov 17 at 4:36










  • If you reduce the problem to a question in $x$ again given the constraint, the question has a maximum and minimum. It make things more fun.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Nov 17 at 4:38










  • sorry...still i can't feel it.would you please please add a graph.
    – Rakibul Islam Prince
    Nov 17 at 5:00


















But,why then the part is given?
– Rakibul Islam Prince
Nov 17 at 4:33




But,why then the part is given?
– Rakibul Islam Prince
Nov 17 at 4:33












so that it is more interesting to you? rather than immediately saying that there is no maximum and minimum.
– Siong Thye Goh
Nov 17 at 4:35




so that it is more interesting to you? rather than immediately saying that there is no maximum and minimum.
– Siong Thye Goh
Nov 17 at 4:35












As was explained, if a constraint like $y le 0$ were not given, then the problem would not make any sense since $f(x,y)$ would have no global extreme values.
– suchan
Nov 17 at 4:36




As was explained, if a constraint like $y le 0$ were not given, then the problem would not make any sense since $f(x,y)$ would have no global extreme values.
– suchan
Nov 17 at 4:36












If you reduce the problem to a question in $x$ again given the constraint, the question has a maximum and minimum. It make things more fun.
– Siong Thye Goh
Nov 17 at 4:38




If you reduce the problem to a question in $x$ again given the constraint, the question has a maximum and minimum. It make things more fun.
– Siong Thye Goh
Nov 17 at 4:38












sorry...still i can't feel it.would you please please add a graph.
– Rakibul Islam Prince
Nov 17 at 5:00






sorry...still i can't feel it.would you please please add a graph.
– Rakibul Islam Prince
Nov 17 at 5:00




















draft saved

draft discarded




















































Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!


  • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

But avoid



  • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

  • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.





Some of your past answers have not been well-received, and you're in danger of being blocked from answering.


Please pay close attention to the following guidance:


  • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

But avoid



  • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

  • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




draft saved


draft discarded














StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3001966%2fwhy-it-is-necessary-to-have-y-le-0-in-the-given-problem%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);

Post as a guest















Required, but never shown





















































Required, but never shown














Required, but never shown












Required, but never shown







Required, but never shown

































Required, but never shown














Required, but never shown












Required, but never shown







Required, but never shown







Popular posts from this blog

Plaza Victoria

In PowerPoint, is there a keyboard shortcut for bulleted / numbered list?

How to put 3 figures in Latex with 2 figures side by side and 1 below these side by side images but in...