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I am having trouble proving this implication involving greatest common divisors
Prove that for all $a,binBbb{Z}$, if $gcd(a,b)=1$, then $gcd(a^n,b^m)=1$ for all $n,minBbb{N}$
Since $gcd(a,b)=1$, then $exists x,yin Bbb{Z}$ such that $ax+by=1$ by the Coprimeness Characterization Theorem.
Raising both sides to the power to the power of $n$ gives $(ax+by)^n=1$
$$sum^n_{k=0}{n choose k}(ax)^{n-k}(by)^k=1implies a^nx^n+bsum^n_{k=1}{n choose k}(ax)^{n-k}b^{k-1}y^k=1$$
A similar argument of course applies for raising both sides to the power of $m$: $(ax+by)^m=1$
$$sum^m_{k=0}{m choose k}(ax)^k(by)^{m-k}=1implies b^my^m+asum^m_{k=1}{m choose k}a^{k-1}x^k(by)^{m-k}=1$$
From both of these I can conclude separately that $gcd(a^n,b)=1$ and $gcd(a,b^m)=1$, but I don't know how to prove that $gcd(a^n,b^m)=1$ with $n$ and $m$ combined. Any help?
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I am having trouble proving this implication involving greatest common divisors
Prove that for all $a,binBbb{Z}$, if $gcd(a,b)=1$, then $gcd(a^n,b^m)=1$ for all $n,minBbb{N}$
Since $gcd(a,b)=1$, then $exists x,yin Bbb{Z}$ such that $ax+by=1$ by the Coprimeness Characterization Theorem.
Raising both sides to the power to the power of $n$ gives $(ax+by)^n=1$
$$sum^n_{k=0}{n choose k}(ax)^{n-k}(by)^k=1implies a^nx^n+bsum^n_{k=1}{n choose k}(ax)^{n-k}b^{k-1}y^k=1$$
A similar argument of course applies for raising both sides to the power of $m$: $(ax+by)^m=1$
$$sum^m_{k=0}{m choose k}(ax)^k(by)^{m-k}=1implies b^my^m+asum^m_{k=1}{m choose k}a^{k-1}x^k(by)^{m-k}=1$$
From both of these I can conclude separately that $gcd(a^n,b)=1$ and $gcd(a,b^m)=1$, but I don't know how to prove that $gcd(a^n,b^m)=1$ with $n$ and $m$ combined. Any help?
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I am having trouble proving this implication involving greatest common divisors
Prove that for all $a,binBbb{Z}$, if $gcd(a,b)=1$, then $gcd(a^n,b^m)=1$ for all $n,minBbb{N}$
Since $gcd(a,b)=1$, then $exists x,yin Bbb{Z}$ such that $ax+by=1$ by the Coprimeness Characterization Theorem.
Raising both sides to the power to the power of $n$ gives $(ax+by)^n=1$
$$sum^n_{k=0}{n choose k}(ax)^{n-k}(by)^k=1implies a^nx^n+bsum^n_{k=1}{n choose k}(ax)^{n-k}b^{k-1}y^k=1$$
A similar argument of course applies for raising both sides to the power of $m$: $(ax+by)^m=1$
$$sum^m_{k=0}{m choose k}(ax)^k(by)^{m-k}=1implies b^my^m+asum^m_{k=1}{m choose k}a^{k-1}x^k(by)^{m-k}=1$$
From both of these I can conclude separately that $gcd(a^n,b)=1$ and $gcd(a,b^m)=1$, but I don't know how to prove that $gcd(a^n,b^m)=1$ with $n$ and $m$ combined. Any help?
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I am having trouble proving this implication involving greatest common divisors
Prove that for all $a,binBbb{Z}$, if $gcd(a,b)=1$, then $gcd(a^n,b^m)=1$ for all $n,minBbb{N}$
Since $gcd(a,b)=1$, then $exists x,yin Bbb{Z}$ such that $ax+by=1$ by the Coprimeness Characterization Theorem.
Raising both sides to the power to the power of $n$ gives $(ax+by)^n=1$
$$sum^n_{k=0}{n choose k}(ax)^{n-k}(by)^k=1implies a^nx^n+bsum^n_{k=1}{n choose k}(ax)^{n-k}b^{k-1}y^k=1$$
A similar argument of course applies for raising both sides to the power of $m$: $(ax+by)^m=1$
$$sum^m_{k=0}{m choose k}(ax)^k(by)^{m-k}=1implies b^my^m+asum^m_{k=1}{m choose k}a^{k-1}x^k(by)^{m-k}=1$$
From both of these I can conclude separately that $gcd(a^n,b)=1$ and $gcd(a,b^m)=1$, but I don't know how to prove that $gcd(a^n,b^m)=1$ with $n$ and $m$ combined. Any help?
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An alternate and arguably a better approach is as follows: Suppose the $gcd(a^m,b^n)>1$. Let a prime $p mid gcd(a^m,b^n)$. Then $p mid a^m$ and $p mid b^n$. By the prime property ($p$ divides a product, hence divides at least one component of the product), we get $p mid a$ and $p mid b$. Thus $p mid gcd(a,b)$. But $gcd(a,b)=1$. So we get a contradiction.
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How did you go from p dividing gcd(a^m,b^n) to p dividing a^m and p dividing b^n
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Dec 6 '18 at 23:44
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@AnsonPang Let $d=gcd(a^m,b^n)$. Then by the definition of $gcd$, $d mid a^m$ and $d mid b^n$. If $p mid d$, then $p$ is a common divisor as well.
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Raise the equation to the power $m+n-1$ (in the exceptional case $m=n=0$, it is clear that $gcd(1, 1) = 1$):
$$sum_{i=0}^{m+n-1} binom{m+n-1}{i} a^i x^i b^{m+n-1-i} y^{m+n-1-i} = 1.$$
Now each term is divisible either by $a^m$, if $i ge m$, or by $b^n$, if $m+n-1-i ge n$. (One of these must hold; otherwise, $i le m-1$ and $m+n-1-i le n-1$, and summing gives a contradiction $m+n-1 le m+n-2$.)
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That seems very complicated and I'd give up.
If $gcd(a,b)= 1$ means that $a$ and $b$ have no prime factors in common. $a^n$ has only the prime factors that $a$ has and $b^m$ has only the prime factors that $b$ has.
So $a^n$ and $b^n$ have no prime factors in common either. So $gcd(a^n, b^m) = 1$.
Simple as that.
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An alternate and arguably a better approach is as follows: Suppose the $gcd(a^m,b^n)>1$. Let a prime $p mid gcd(a^m,b^n)$. Then $p mid a^m$ and $p mid b^n$. By the prime property ($p$ divides a product, hence divides at least one component of the product), we get $p mid a$ and $p mid b$. Thus $p mid gcd(a,b)$. But $gcd(a,b)=1$. So we get a contradiction.
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How did you go from p dividing gcd(a^m,b^n) to p dividing a^m and p dividing b^n
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– Anson Pang
Dec 6 '18 at 23:44
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@AnsonPang Let $d=gcd(a^m,b^n)$. Then by the definition of $gcd$, $d mid a^m$ and $d mid b^n$. If $p mid d$, then $p$ is a common divisor as well.
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– Anurag A
Dec 7 '18 at 0:08
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An alternate and arguably a better approach is as follows: Suppose the $gcd(a^m,b^n)>1$. Let a prime $p mid gcd(a^m,b^n)$. Then $p mid a^m$ and $p mid b^n$. By the prime property ($p$ divides a product, hence divides at least one component of the product), we get $p mid a$ and $p mid b$. Thus $p mid gcd(a,b)$. But $gcd(a,b)=1$. So we get a contradiction.
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How did you go from p dividing gcd(a^m,b^n) to p dividing a^m and p dividing b^n
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– Anson Pang
Dec 6 '18 at 23:44
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@AnsonPang Let $d=gcd(a^m,b^n)$. Then by the definition of $gcd$, $d mid a^m$ and $d mid b^n$. If $p mid d$, then $p$ is a common divisor as well.
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– Anurag A
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An alternate and arguably a better approach is as follows: Suppose the $gcd(a^m,b^n)>1$. Let a prime $p mid gcd(a^m,b^n)$. Then $p mid a^m$ and $p mid b^n$. By the prime property ($p$ divides a product, hence divides at least one component of the product), we get $p mid a$ and $p mid b$. Thus $p mid gcd(a,b)$. But $gcd(a,b)=1$. So we get a contradiction.
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An alternate and arguably a better approach is as follows: Suppose the $gcd(a^m,b^n)>1$. Let a prime $p mid gcd(a^m,b^n)$. Then $p mid a^m$ and $p mid b^n$. By the prime property ($p$ divides a product, hence divides at least one component of the product), we get $p mid a$ and $p mid b$. Thus $p mid gcd(a,b)$. But $gcd(a,b)=1$. So we get a contradiction.
answered Dec 6 '18 at 22:23
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How did you go from p dividing gcd(a^m,b^n) to p dividing a^m and p dividing b^n
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– Anson Pang
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@AnsonPang Let $d=gcd(a^m,b^n)$. Then by the definition of $gcd$, $d mid a^m$ and $d mid b^n$. If $p mid d$, then $p$ is a common divisor as well.
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– Anurag A
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How did you go from p dividing gcd(a^m,b^n) to p dividing a^m and p dividing b^n
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– Anson Pang
Dec 6 '18 at 23:44
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@AnsonPang Let $d=gcd(a^m,b^n)$. Then by the definition of $gcd$, $d mid a^m$ and $d mid b^n$. If $p mid d$, then $p$ is a common divisor as well.
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– Anurag A
Dec 7 '18 at 0:08
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How did you go from p dividing gcd(a^m,b^n) to p dividing a^m and p dividing b^n
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– Anson Pang
Dec 6 '18 at 23:44
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How did you go from p dividing gcd(a^m,b^n) to p dividing a^m and p dividing b^n
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– Anson Pang
Dec 6 '18 at 23:44
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@AnsonPang Let $d=gcd(a^m,b^n)$. Then by the definition of $gcd$, $d mid a^m$ and $d mid b^n$. If $p mid d$, then $p$ is a common divisor as well.
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– Anurag A
Dec 7 '18 at 0:08
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@AnsonPang Let $d=gcd(a^m,b^n)$. Then by the definition of $gcd$, $d mid a^m$ and $d mid b^n$. If $p mid d$, then $p$ is a common divisor as well.
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Dec 7 '18 at 0:08
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Raise the equation to the power $m+n-1$ (in the exceptional case $m=n=0$, it is clear that $gcd(1, 1) = 1$):
$$sum_{i=0}^{m+n-1} binom{m+n-1}{i} a^i x^i b^{m+n-1-i} y^{m+n-1-i} = 1.$$
Now each term is divisible either by $a^m$, if $i ge m$, or by $b^n$, if $m+n-1-i ge n$. (One of these must hold; otherwise, $i le m-1$ and $m+n-1-i le n-1$, and summing gives a contradiction $m+n-1 le m+n-2$.)
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Raise the equation to the power $m+n-1$ (in the exceptional case $m=n=0$, it is clear that $gcd(1, 1) = 1$):
$$sum_{i=0}^{m+n-1} binom{m+n-1}{i} a^i x^i b^{m+n-1-i} y^{m+n-1-i} = 1.$$
Now each term is divisible either by $a^m$, if $i ge m$, or by $b^n$, if $m+n-1-i ge n$. (One of these must hold; otherwise, $i le m-1$ and $m+n-1-i le n-1$, and summing gives a contradiction $m+n-1 le m+n-2$.)
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Raise the equation to the power $m+n-1$ (in the exceptional case $m=n=0$, it is clear that $gcd(1, 1) = 1$):
$$sum_{i=0}^{m+n-1} binom{m+n-1}{i} a^i x^i b^{m+n-1-i} y^{m+n-1-i} = 1.$$
Now each term is divisible either by $a^m$, if $i ge m$, or by $b^n$, if $m+n-1-i ge n$. (One of these must hold; otherwise, $i le m-1$ and $m+n-1-i le n-1$, and summing gives a contradiction $m+n-1 le m+n-2$.)
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Raise the equation to the power $m+n-1$ (in the exceptional case $m=n=0$, it is clear that $gcd(1, 1) = 1$):
$$sum_{i=0}^{m+n-1} binom{m+n-1}{i} a^i x^i b^{m+n-1-i} y^{m+n-1-i} = 1.$$
Now each term is divisible either by $a^m$, if $i ge m$, or by $b^n$, if $m+n-1-i ge n$. (One of these must hold; otherwise, $i le m-1$ and $m+n-1-i le n-1$, and summing gives a contradiction $m+n-1 le m+n-2$.)
answered Dec 6 '18 at 22:33
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That seems very complicated and I'd give up.
If $gcd(a,b)= 1$ means that $a$ and $b$ have no prime factors in common. $a^n$ has only the prime factors that $a$ has and $b^m$ has only the prime factors that $b$ has.
So $a^n$ and $b^n$ have no prime factors in common either. So $gcd(a^n, b^m) = 1$.
Simple as that.
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That seems very complicated and I'd give up.
If $gcd(a,b)= 1$ means that $a$ and $b$ have no prime factors in common. $a^n$ has only the prime factors that $a$ has and $b^m$ has only the prime factors that $b$ has.
So $a^n$ and $b^n$ have no prime factors in common either. So $gcd(a^n, b^m) = 1$.
Simple as that.
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That seems very complicated and I'd give up.
If $gcd(a,b)= 1$ means that $a$ and $b$ have no prime factors in common. $a^n$ has only the prime factors that $a$ has and $b^m$ has only the prime factors that $b$ has.
So $a^n$ and $b^n$ have no prime factors in common either. So $gcd(a^n, b^m) = 1$.
Simple as that.
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That seems very complicated and I'd give up.
If $gcd(a,b)= 1$ means that $a$ and $b$ have no prime factors in common. $a^n$ has only the prime factors that $a$ has and $b^m$ has only the prime factors that $b$ has.
So $a^n$ and $b^n$ have no prime factors in common either. So $gcd(a^n, b^m) = 1$.
Simple as that.
answered Dec 6 '18 at 22:37
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