Providing Example that independence of events $A, B$ is dependent on Probability measure











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My example:



Let there be $3$ $6-$sided dice with each dice taking on either colour blue, green or red.



Let event $A:=$ the dice thrown is red.



and event $B:=$ the dice thrown shows $2$.



Let's then take $2$ probability measures $P, Q$. We set $P$ equal to uniform distribution.



It follows that $P(A cap B) = frac{1}{6 times 3}=frac{1}{18}$



and $P(A) times P(B)=frac{1}{3} * frac{1}{6} = frac{1}{18}$, so $A, B$ are naturally independent.



Now I am attempting to find a probability measure $Q$ such that:



$Q(A cap B) neq Q(A) times Q(B)$



My idea: perhaps $Q(C)=frac{2|Omega|-|C|}{|Omega|}$. But how can I be sure that it is $sigma-$additive, it is clearly "normed" as $Q(Omega)=1$.



$Q(A cap B)= frac{2 times 18-1}{18}>1$, which is not true for a probaility measure, right? Is my example wrong? Can you provide me with more intuitive examples?










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    My example:



    Let there be $3$ $6-$sided dice with each dice taking on either colour blue, green or red.



    Let event $A:=$ the dice thrown is red.



    and event $B:=$ the dice thrown shows $2$.



    Let's then take $2$ probability measures $P, Q$. We set $P$ equal to uniform distribution.



    It follows that $P(A cap B) = frac{1}{6 times 3}=frac{1}{18}$



    and $P(A) times P(B)=frac{1}{3} * frac{1}{6} = frac{1}{18}$, so $A, B$ are naturally independent.



    Now I am attempting to find a probability measure $Q$ such that:



    $Q(A cap B) neq Q(A) times Q(B)$



    My idea: perhaps $Q(C)=frac{2|Omega|-|C|}{|Omega|}$. But how can I be sure that it is $sigma-$additive, it is clearly "normed" as $Q(Omega)=1$.



    $Q(A cap B)= frac{2 times 18-1}{18}>1$, which is not true for a probaility measure, right? Is my example wrong? Can you provide me with more intuitive examples?










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      My example:



      Let there be $3$ $6-$sided dice with each dice taking on either colour blue, green or red.



      Let event $A:=$ the dice thrown is red.



      and event $B:=$ the dice thrown shows $2$.



      Let's then take $2$ probability measures $P, Q$. We set $P$ equal to uniform distribution.



      It follows that $P(A cap B) = frac{1}{6 times 3}=frac{1}{18}$



      and $P(A) times P(B)=frac{1}{3} * frac{1}{6} = frac{1}{18}$, so $A, B$ are naturally independent.



      Now I am attempting to find a probability measure $Q$ such that:



      $Q(A cap B) neq Q(A) times Q(B)$



      My idea: perhaps $Q(C)=frac{2|Omega|-|C|}{|Omega|}$. But how can I be sure that it is $sigma-$additive, it is clearly "normed" as $Q(Omega)=1$.



      $Q(A cap B)= frac{2 times 18-1}{18}>1$, which is not true for a probaility measure, right? Is my example wrong? Can you provide me with more intuitive examples?










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      My example:



      Let there be $3$ $6-$sided dice with each dice taking on either colour blue, green or red.



      Let event $A:=$ the dice thrown is red.



      and event $B:=$ the dice thrown shows $2$.



      Let's then take $2$ probability measures $P, Q$. We set $P$ equal to uniform distribution.



      It follows that $P(A cap B) = frac{1}{6 times 3}=frac{1}{18}$



      and $P(A) times P(B)=frac{1}{3} * frac{1}{6} = frac{1}{18}$, so $A, B$ are naturally independent.



      Now I am attempting to find a probability measure $Q$ such that:



      $Q(A cap B) neq Q(A) times Q(B)$



      My idea: perhaps $Q(C)=frac{2|Omega|-|C|}{|Omega|}$. But how can I be sure that it is $sigma-$additive, it is clearly "normed" as $Q(Omega)=1$.



      $Q(A cap B)= frac{2 times 18-1}{18}>1$, which is not true for a probaility measure, right? Is my example wrong? Can you provide me with more intuitive examples?







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