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I have been in my current role for nearly 10 years. I am quite senior, well respected, etc.I need a change, and there is an opportunity to move internally to another team (at the same level as currently). It will be interesting and challenging. BUT. My current boss retires in four years, and I will probably get promoted then. If I move, my chances of promotion may be less (five to seven years time compared to four).
Do I stick out four years in a role in the hope of promotion; or do I make a jump?
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I have been in my current role for nearly 10 years. I am quite senior, well respected, etc.I need a change, and there is an opportunity to move internally to another team (at the same level as currently). It will be interesting and challenging. BUT. My current boss retires in four years, and I will probably get promoted then. If I move, my chances of promotion may be less (five to seven years time compared to four).
Do I stick out four years in a role in the hope of promotion; or do I make a jump?
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closed as primarily opinion-based by Kozaky, gnat, AdzzzUK, David K, Dukeling Nov 15 at 18:22
Many good questions generate some degree of opinion based on expert experience, but answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions, rather than facts, references, or specific expertise. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
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Vote to close as opinion based. Unfortunately, we can't make a decision for you, in your particular situation
– viorel
Nov 15 at 13:35
You have one "probably in 4 years" and one sure rise in pay when you switch the role (because you switch with higher pay right?)
– SZCZERZO KŁY
Nov 15 at 14:26
Is this a "dead-man's-shoes" organisation where you can only move upwards into your immediate superior's place, or would your current boss's job be advertised throughout the company when he does retire? If the latter, why could you not try to move back in four years' time - if you still want it?
– Julia Hayward
Nov 15 at 15:40
@SZCZERZOKŁY no change in pay if I switch
– Roy
Nov 15 at 15:45
@JuliaHayward yes, that is the way. You are spot on, it will be an open competition for his job when it becomes vacant, so I could always move back.
– Roy
Nov 15 at 15:46
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I have been in my current role for nearly 10 years. I am quite senior, well respected, etc.I need a change, and there is an opportunity to move internally to another team (at the same level as currently). It will be interesting and challenging. BUT. My current boss retires in four years, and I will probably get promoted then. If I move, my chances of promotion may be less (five to seven years time compared to four).
Do I stick out four years in a role in the hope of promotion; or do I make a jump?
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I have been in my current role for nearly 10 years. I am quite senior, well respected, etc.I need a change, and there is an opportunity to move internally to another team (at the same level as currently). It will be interesting and challenging. BUT. My current boss retires in four years, and I will probably get promoted then. If I move, my chances of promotion may be less (five to seven years time compared to four).
Do I stick out four years in a role in the hope of promotion; or do I make a jump?
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closed as primarily opinion-based by Kozaky, gnat, AdzzzUK, David K, Dukeling Nov 15 at 18:22
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closed as primarily opinion-based by Kozaky, gnat, AdzzzUK, David K, Dukeling Nov 15 at 18:22
Many good questions generate some degree of opinion based on expert experience, but answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions, rather than facts, references, or specific expertise. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
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Vote to close as opinion based. Unfortunately, we can't make a decision for you, in your particular situation
– viorel
Nov 15 at 13:35
You have one "probably in 4 years" and one sure rise in pay when you switch the role (because you switch with higher pay right?)
– SZCZERZO KŁY
Nov 15 at 14:26
Is this a "dead-man's-shoes" organisation where you can only move upwards into your immediate superior's place, or would your current boss's job be advertised throughout the company when he does retire? If the latter, why could you not try to move back in four years' time - if you still want it?
– Julia Hayward
Nov 15 at 15:40
@SZCZERZOKŁY no change in pay if I switch
– Roy
Nov 15 at 15:45
@JuliaHayward yes, that is the way. You are spot on, it will be an open competition for his job when it becomes vacant, so I could always move back.
– Roy
Nov 15 at 15:46
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Vote to close as opinion based. Unfortunately, we can't make a decision for you, in your particular situation
– viorel
Nov 15 at 13:35
You have one "probably in 4 years" and one sure rise in pay when you switch the role (because you switch with higher pay right?)
– SZCZERZO KŁY
Nov 15 at 14:26
Is this a "dead-man's-shoes" organisation where you can only move upwards into your immediate superior's place, or would your current boss's job be advertised throughout the company when he does retire? If the latter, why could you not try to move back in four years' time - if you still want it?
– Julia Hayward
Nov 15 at 15:40
@SZCZERZOKŁY no change in pay if I switch
– Roy
Nov 15 at 15:45
@JuliaHayward yes, that is the way. You are spot on, it will be an open competition for his job when it becomes vacant, so I could always move back.
– Roy
Nov 15 at 15:46
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Vote to close as opinion based. Unfortunately, we can't make a decision for you, in your particular situation
– viorel
Nov 15 at 13:35
Vote to close as opinion based. Unfortunately, we can't make a decision for you, in your particular situation
– viorel
Nov 15 at 13:35
You have one "probably in 4 years" and one sure rise in pay when you switch the role (because you switch with higher pay right?)
– SZCZERZO KŁY
Nov 15 at 14:26
You have one "probably in 4 years" and one sure rise in pay when you switch the role (because you switch with higher pay right?)
– SZCZERZO KŁY
Nov 15 at 14:26
Is this a "dead-man's-shoes" organisation where you can only move upwards into your immediate superior's place, or would your current boss's job be advertised throughout the company when he does retire? If the latter, why could you not try to move back in four years' time - if you still want it?
– Julia Hayward
Nov 15 at 15:40
Is this a "dead-man's-shoes" organisation where you can only move upwards into your immediate superior's place, or would your current boss's job be advertised throughout the company when he does retire? If the latter, why could you not try to move back in four years' time - if you still want it?
– Julia Hayward
Nov 15 at 15:40
@SZCZERZOKŁY no change in pay if I switch
– Roy
Nov 15 at 15:45
@SZCZERZOKŁY no change in pay if I switch
– Roy
Nov 15 at 15:45
@JuliaHayward yes, that is the way. You are spot on, it will be an open competition for his job when it becomes vacant, so I could always move back.
– Roy
Nov 15 at 15:46
@JuliaHayward yes, that is the way. You are spot on, it will be an open competition for his job when it becomes vacant, so I could always move back.
– Roy
Nov 15 at 15:46
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Do I stick out four years in a role in the hope of promotion; or do I
make a jump?
You weigh the options, considering both your short term and long term career aspirations.
Then you choose the one that furthers your goals the most.
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In my opinion, You have to think what is more important for You:
being promoted and have more money (I suppose, your salary will be higher)
be happy and do what you like.
Four years is a lot of time, a lot of things will happen. If U need break, this 4 years of waiting will be torture. Are You 100% sure that you are the person that will be promoted?
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Thanks for taking the time to comment. You're spot on. I want to be happy. (Promotion is like 10% more money, and 50% more unhappiness)
– Roy
Nov 15 at 15:51
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Do I stick out four years in a role in the hope of promotion; or do I make a jump?
This question is largely opinion-based, so there is no "best answer" anyone can give.
That said, I would encourage you to look to the future. Ask yourself a few questions:
- If you get promoted, will you be doing work that interests you?
- Can you see yourself doing the same job you are currently doing 3 years from now? 4 years from now?
- If you don't take this opportunity, will it still be open 4 years from now, in case you don't get that promotion?
If the answer to any of those questions is NO, it might be worth considering the new job.
If the promotion will leave you with the same, boring work but a higher salary, you have to weigh the benefits of the raise with the boredom you face.
If you can't see yourself doing the same work in 3-4 years, because it is that stale to you, then you need to examine how long it will take before you can't take it any more.
If the new job won't be available to you in 4 years, you need to measure just how certain you are that the promotion is yours. What are the odds that someone else gets the promotion? That your boss decides to push off his retirement for some reason? If this happens, you might be stuck in this job you dislike for a lot longer than 4 years. Maybe it will approach the 5-7 year figure of the other job, or even surpass it by a few years. Is this a risk you are willing to take?
Personally, I love a new challenge, and the risks that come along with it. The impulsive side of me would say to go for the new job. Shake it up. However, I don't know your life. I don't know if you have a family to feed, or debt to pay off. There very well may be value in playing it safe, because as fun as a new job would be you likely have no way of being sure you will perform to the same level you do now.
Weigh your options, and compare it to the weight of what you value. That's how you'll find your answer.
Thanks for taking the time to comment. Really appreciate it :-) This is very useful advice. My answers are indeed that the promotion is just more of the same dullness (actually worse, because I get additional boring responsibilities) The new job is a great challenge, with a strong young team to manage and some exciting stuff.
– Roy
Nov 15 at 15:50
@Roy , I always say that there's no point in surviving if you don't really live. Unless you think there's a danger in switching to the new job, I don't think you should stay where you are. If the only thing you get out of staying is a bit of a bump in pay and even more work you hate, there seems to be no reason to stay. And, as you mentioned in your response to Julia Hayward in the original question, you could always go for the job in 4 years, even if you switch. If that's the case, what do you have to lose?
– Cubemaster
Nov 15 at 15:55
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Do I stick out four years in a role in the hope of promotion; or do I
make a jump?
You weigh the options, considering both your short term and long term career aspirations.
Then you choose the one that furthers your goals the most.
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Do I stick out four years in a role in the hope of promotion; or do I
make a jump?
You weigh the options, considering both your short term and long term career aspirations.
Then you choose the one that furthers your goals the most.
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Do I stick out four years in a role in the hope of promotion; or do I
make a jump?
You weigh the options, considering both your short term and long term career aspirations.
Then you choose the one that furthers your goals the most.
Do I stick out four years in a role in the hope of promotion; or do I
make a jump?
You weigh the options, considering both your short term and long term career aspirations.
Then you choose the one that furthers your goals the most.
answered Nov 15 at 14:26
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In my opinion, You have to think what is more important for You:
being promoted and have more money (I suppose, your salary will be higher)
be happy and do what you like.
Four years is a lot of time, a lot of things will happen. If U need break, this 4 years of waiting will be torture. Are You 100% sure that you are the person that will be promoted?
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Thanks for taking the time to comment. You're spot on. I want to be happy. (Promotion is like 10% more money, and 50% more unhappiness)
– Roy
Nov 15 at 15:51
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In my opinion, You have to think what is more important for You:
being promoted and have more money (I suppose, your salary will be higher)
be happy and do what you like.
Four years is a lot of time, a lot of things will happen. If U need break, this 4 years of waiting will be torture. Are You 100% sure that you are the person that will be promoted?
New contributor
Thanks for taking the time to comment. You're spot on. I want to be happy. (Promotion is like 10% more money, and 50% more unhappiness)
– Roy
Nov 15 at 15:51
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In my opinion, You have to think what is more important for You:
being promoted and have more money (I suppose, your salary will be higher)
be happy and do what you like.
Four years is a lot of time, a lot of things will happen. If U need break, this 4 years of waiting will be torture. Are You 100% sure that you are the person that will be promoted?
New contributor
In my opinion, You have to think what is more important for You:
being promoted and have more money (I suppose, your salary will be higher)
be happy and do what you like.
Four years is a lot of time, a lot of things will happen. If U need break, this 4 years of waiting will be torture. Are You 100% sure that you are the person that will be promoted?
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answered Nov 15 at 14:02
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Thanks for taking the time to comment. You're spot on. I want to be happy. (Promotion is like 10% more money, and 50% more unhappiness)
– Roy
Nov 15 at 15:51
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Thanks for taking the time to comment. You're spot on. I want to be happy. (Promotion is like 10% more money, and 50% more unhappiness)
– Roy
Nov 15 at 15:51
Thanks for taking the time to comment. You're spot on. I want to be happy. (Promotion is like 10% more money, and 50% more unhappiness)
– Roy
Nov 15 at 15:51
Thanks for taking the time to comment. You're spot on. I want to be happy. (Promotion is like 10% more money, and 50% more unhappiness)
– Roy
Nov 15 at 15:51
add a comment |
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Do I stick out four years in a role in the hope of promotion; or do I make a jump?
This question is largely opinion-based, so there is no "best answer" anyone can give.
That said, I would encourage you to look to the future. Ask yourself a few questions:
- If you get promoted, will you be doing work that interests you?
- Can you see yourself doing the same job you are currently doing 3 years from now? 4 years from now?
- If you don't take this opportunity, will it still be open 4 years from now, in case you don't get that promotion?
If the answer to any of those questions is NO, it might be worth considering the new job.
If the promotion will leave you with the same, boring work but a higher salary, you have to weigh the benefits of the raise with the boredom you face.
If you can't see yourself doing the same work in 3-4 years, because it is that stale to you, then you need to examine how long it will take before you can't take it any more.
If the new job won't be available to you in 4 years, you need to measure just how certain you are that the promotion is yours. What are the odds that someone else gets the promotion? That your boss decides to push off his retirement for some reason? If this happens, you might be stuck in this job you dislike for a lot longer than 4 years. Maybe it will approach the 5-7 year figure of the other job, or even surpass it by a few years. Is this a risk you are willing to take?
Personally, I love a new challenge, and the risks that come along with it. The impulsive side of me would say to go for the new job. Shake it up. However, I don't know your life. I don't know if you have a family to feed, or debt to pay off. There very well may be value in playing it safe, because as fun as a new job would be you likely have no way of being sure you will perform to the same level you do now.
Weigh your options, and compare it to the weight of what you value. That's how you'll find your answer.
Thanks for taking the time to comment. Really appreciate it :-) This is very useful advice. My answers are indeed that the promotion is just more of the same dullness (actually worse, because I get additional boring responsibilities) The new job is a great challenge, with a strong young team to manage and some exciting stuff.
– Roy
Nov 15 at 15:50
@Roy , I always say that there's no point in surviving if you don't really live. Unless you think there's a danger in switching to the new job, I don't think you should stay where you are. If the only thing you get out of staying is a bit of a bump in pay and even more work you hate, there seems to be no reason to stay. And, as you mentioned in your response to Julia Hayward in the original question, you could always go for the job in 4 years, even if you switch. If that's the case, what do you have to lose?
– Cubemaster
Nov 15 at 15:55
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Do I stick out four years in a role in the hope of promotion; or do I make a jump?
This question is largely opinion-based, so there is no "best answer" anyone can give.
That said, I would encourage you to look to the future. Ask yourself a few questions:
- If you get promoted, will you be doing work that interests you?
- Can you see yourself doing the same job you are currently doing 3 years from now? 4 years from now?
- If you don't take this opportunity, will it still be open 4 years from now, in case you don't get that promotion?
If the answer to any of those questions is NO, it might be worth considering the new job.
If the promotion will leave you with the same, boring work but a higher salary, you have to weigh the benefits of the raise with the boredom you face.
If you can't see yourself doing the same work in 3-4 years, because it is that stale to you, then you need to examine how long it will take before you can't take it any more.
If the new job won't be available to you in 4 years, you need to measure just how certain you are that the promotion is yours. What are the odds that someone else gets the promotion? That your boss decides to push off his retirement for some reason? If this happens, you might be stuck in this job you dislike for a lot longer than 4 years. Maybe it will approach the 5-7 year figure of the other job, or even surpass it by a few years. Is this a risk you are willing to take?
Personally, I love a new challenge, and the risks that come along with it. The impulsive side of me would say to go for the new job. Shake it up. However, I don't know your life. I don't know if you have a family to feed, or debt to pay off. There very well may be value in playing it safe, because as fun as a new job would be you likely have no way of being sure you will perform to the same level you do now.
Weigh your options, and compare it to the weight of what you value. That's how you'll find your answer.
Thanks for taking the time to comment. Really appreciate it :-) This is very useful advice. My answers are indeed that the promotion is just more of the same dullness (actually worse, because I get additional boring responsibilities) The new job is a great challenge, with a strong young team to manage and some exciting stuff.
– Roy
Nov 15 at 15:50
@Roy , I always say that there's no point in surviving if you don't really live. Unless you think there's a danger in switching to the new job, I don't think you should stay where you are. If the only thing you get out of staying is a bit of a bump in pay and even more work you hate, there seems to be no reason to stay. And, as you mentioned in your response to Julia Hayward in the original question, you could always go for the job in 4 years, even if you switch. If that's the case, what do you have to lose?
– Cubemaster
Nov 15 at 15:55
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Do I stick out four years in a role in the hope of promotion; or do I make a jump?
This question is largely opinion-based, so there is no "best answer" anyone can give.
That said, I would encourage you to look to the future. Ask yourself a few questions:
- If you get promoted, will you be doing work that interests you?
- Can you see yourself doing the same job you are currently doing 3 years from now? 4 years from now?
- If you don't take this opportunity, will it still be open 4 years from now, in case you don't get that promotion?
If the answer to any of those questions is NO, it might be worth considering the new job.
If the promotion will leave you with the same, boring work but a higher salary, you have to weigh the benefits of the raise with the boredom you face.
If you can't see yourself doing the same work in 3-4 years, because it is that stale to you, then you need to examine how long it will take before you can't take it any more.
If the new job won't be available to you in 4 years, you need to measure just how certain you are that the promotion is yours. What are the odds that someone else gets the promotion? That your boss decides to push off his retirement for some reason? If this happens, you might be stuck in this job you dislike for a lot longer than 4 years. Maybe it will approach the 5-7 year figure of the other job, or even surpass it by a few years. Is this a risk you are willing to take?
Personally, I love a new challenge, and the risks that come along with it. The impulsive side of me would say to go for the new job. Shake it up. However, I don't know your life. I don't know if you have a family to feed, or debt to pay off. There very well may be value in playing it safe, because as fun as a new job would be you likely have no way of being sure you will perform to the same level you do now.
Weigh your options, and compare it to the weight of what you value. That's how you'll find your answer.
Do I stick out four years in a role in the hope of promotion; or do I make a jump?
This question is largely opinion-based, so there is no "best answer" anyone can give.
That said, I would encourage you to look to the future. Ask yourself a few questions:
- If you get promoted, will you be doing work that interests you?
- Can you see yourself doing the same job you are currently doing 3 years from now? 4 years from now?
- If you don't take this opportunity, will it still be open 4 years from now, in case you don't get that promotion?
If the answer to any of those questions is NO, it might be worth considering the new job.
If the promotion will leave you with the same, boring work but a higher salary, you have to weigh the benefits of the raise with the boredom you face.
If you can't see yourself doing the same work in 3-4 years, because it is that stale to you, then you need to examine how long it will take before you can't take it any more.
If the new job won't be available to you in 4 years, you need to measure just how certain you are that the promotion is yours. What are the odds that someone else gets the promotion? That your boss decides to push off his retirement for some reason? If this happens, you might be stuck in this job you dislike for a lot longer than 4 years. Maybe it will approach the 5-7 year figure of the other job, or even surpass it by a few years. Is this a risk you are willing to take?
Personally, I love a new challenge, and the risks that come along with it. The impulsive side of me would say to go for the new job. Shake it up. However, I don't know your life. I don't know if you have a family to feed, or debt to pay off. There very well may be value in playing it safe, because as fun as a new job would be you likely have no way of being sure you will perform to the same level you do now.
Weigh your options, and compare it to the weight of what you value. That's how you'll find your answer.
answered Nov 15 at 15:33
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Thanks for taking the time to comment. Really appreciate it :-) This is very useful advice. My answers are indeed that the promotion is just more of the same dullness (actually worse, because I get additional boring responsibilities) The new job is a great challenge, with a strong young team to manage and some exciting stuff.
– Roy
Nov 15 at 15:50
@Roy , I always say that there's no point in surviving if you don't really live. Unless you think there's a danger in switching to the new job, I don't think you should stay where you are. If the only thing you get out of staying is a bit of a bump in pay and even more work you hate, there seems to be no reason to stay. And, as you mentioned in your response to Julia Hayward in the original question, you could always go for the job in 4 years, even if you switch. If that's the case, what do you have to lose?
– Cubemaster
Nov 15 at 15:55
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Thanks for taking the time to comment. Really appreciate it :-) This is very useful advice. My answers are indeed that the promotion is just more of the same dullness (actually worse, because I get additional boring responsibilities) The new job is a great challenge, with a strong young team to manage and some exciting stuff.
– Roy
Nov 15 at 15:50
@Roy , I always say that there's no point in surviving if you don't really live. Unless you think there's a danger in switching to the new job, I don't think you should stay where you are. If the only thing you get out of staying is a bit of a bump in pay and even more work you hate, there seems to be no reason to stay. And, as you mentioned in your response to Julia Hayward in the original question, you could always go for the job in 4 years, even if you switch. If that's the case, what do you have to lose?
– Cubemaster
Nov 15 at 15:55
Thanks for taking the time to comment. Really appreciate it :-) This is very useful advice. My answers are indeed that the promotion is just more of the same dullness (actually worse, because I get additional boring responsibilities) The new job is a great challenge, with a strong young team to manage and some exciting stuff.
– Roy
Nov 15 at 15:50
Thanks for taking the time to comment. Really appreciate it :-) This is very useful advice. My answers are indeed that the promotion is just more of the same dullness (actually worse, because I get additional boring responsibilities) The new job is a great challenge, with a strong young team to manage and some exciting stuff.
– Roy
Nov 15 at 15:50
@Roy , I always say that there's no point in surviving if you don't really live. Unless you think there's a danger in switching to the new job, I don't think you should stay where you are. If the only thing you get out of staying is a bit of a bump in pay and even more work you hate, there seems to be no reason to stay. And, as you mentioned in your response to Julia Hayward in the original question, you could always go for the job in 4 years, even if you switch. If that's the case, what do you have to lose?
– Cubemaster
Nov 15 at 15:55
@Roy , I always say that there's no point in surviving if you don't really live. Unless you think there's a danger in switching to the new job, I don't think you should stay where you are. If the only thing you get out of staying is a bit of a bump in pay and even more work you hate, there seems to be no reason to stay. And, as you mentioned in your response to Julia Hayward in the original question, you could always go for the job in 4 years, even if you switch. If that's the case, what do you have to lose?
– Cubemaster
Nov 15 at 15:55
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Vote to close as opinion based. Unfortunately, we can't make a decision for you, in your particular situation
– viorel
Nov 15 at 13:35
You have one "probably in 4 years" and one sure rise in pay when you switch the role (because you switch with higher pay right?)
– SZCZERZO KŁY
Nov 15 at 14:26
Is this a "dead-man's-shoes" organisation where you can only move upwards into your immediate superior's place, or would your current boss's job be advertised throughout the company when he does retire? If the latter, why could you not try to move back in four years' time - if you still want it?
– Julia Hayward
Nov 15 at 15:40
@SZCZERZOKŁY no change in pay if I switch
– Roy
Nov 15 at 15:45
@JuliaHayward yes, that is the way. You are spot on, it will be an open competition for his job when it becomes vacant, so I could always move back.
– Roy
Nov 15 at 15:46