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Let f,g be bounded measurable functions on a set E of finite measure. Show that:



If f=a.e.g then ∫f=∫g on E



I have this proof from Cupta book, but I can't understand how this step done, depends on what?



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  • The integral preserves order. If $phi$ dominates $f-g$ and the latter is a.e. zero, then $phi$ is a.e. nonnegative, and hence the integral is nonnegative.
    – Sean Roberson
    Nov 26 '18 at 5:55










  • Thanks alot. But I confused about why integral of (f-g) must be nonnegative?
    – Duaa Hamzeh
    Nov 26 '18 at 5:58










  • @DuaaHamzeh $f-g=0$ a.e., so $f-g$ is non-negative a.e. I dont like the proof of this book, it is complicated without any sense
    – Masacroso
    Nov 26 '18 at 5:59












  • Again. The domination property. If $u leq v$ a.e. then the intergal of $u$ is less than or equal to that of $v$. This follows from saying if $v-u leq 0$ a.e. then $int v-u leq 0.$ Prove this with an approximation argument.
    – Sean Roberson
    Nov 26 '18 at 6:01










  • Perhaps also share what Theorem 2.2 (b) is?
    – AlkaKadri
    Nov 26 '18 at 6:02
















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Let f,g be bounded measurable functions on a set E of finite measure. Show that:



If f=a.e.g then ∫f=∫g on E



I have this proof from Cupta book, but I can't understand how this step done, depends on what?



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  • The integral preserves order. If $phi$ dominates $f-g$ and the latter is a.e. zero, then $phi$ is a.e. nonnegative, and hence the integral is nonnegative.
    – Sean Roberson
    Nov 26 '18 at 5:55










  • Thanks alot. But I confused about why integral of (f-g) must be nonnegative?
    – Duaa Hamzeh
    Nov 26 '18 at 5:58










  • @DuaaHamzeh $f-g=0$ a.e., so $f-g$ is non-negative a.e. I dont like the proof of this book, it is complicated without any sense
    – Masacroso
    Nov 26 '18 at 5:59












  • Again. The domination property. If $u leq v$ a.e. then the intergal of $u$ is less than or equal to that of $v$. This follows from saying if $v-u leq 0$ a.e. then $int v-u leq 0.$ Prove this with an approximation argument.
    – Sean Roberson
    Nov 26 '18 at 6:01










  • Perhaps also share what Theorem 2.2 (b) is?
    – AlkaKadri
    Nov 26 '18 at 6:02














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Let f,g be bounded measurable functions on a set E of finite measure. Show that:



If f=a.e.g then ∫f=∫g on E



I have this proof from Cupta book, but I can't understand how this step done, depends on what?



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  • Lebesgue integration: $f = g$ a.e. $ Rightarrow int_Omega f = int_Omega g$

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Let f,g be bounded measurable functions on a set E of finite measure. Show that:



If f=a.e.g then ∫f=∫g on E



I have this proof from Cupta book, but I can't understand how this step done, depends on what?



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  • The integral preserves order. If $phi$ dominates $f-g$ and the latter is a.e. zero, then $phi$ is a.e. nonnegative, and hence the integral is nonnegative.
    – Sean Roberson
    Nov 26 '18 at 5:55










  • Thanks alot. But I confused about why integral of (f-g) must be nonnegative?
    – Duaa Hamzeh
    Nov 26 '18 at 5:58










  • @DuaaHamzeh $f-g=0$ a.e., so $f-g$ is non-negative a.e. I dont like the proof of this book, it is complicated without any sense
    – Masacroso
    Nov 26 '18 at 5:59












  • Again. The domination property. If $u leq v$ a.e. then the intergal of $u$ is less than or equal to that of $v$. This follows from saying if $v-u leq 0$ a.e. then $int v-u leq 0.$ Prove this with an approximation argument.
    – Sean Roberson
    Nov 26 '18 at 6:01










  • Perhaps also share what Theorem 2.2 (b) is?
    – AlkaKadri
    Nov 26 '18 at 6:02


















  • The integral preserves order. If $phi$ dominates $f-g$ and the latter is a.e. zero, then $phi$ is a.e. nonnegative, and hence the integral is nonnegative.
    – Sean Roberson
    Nov 26 '18 at 5:55










  • Thanks alot. But I confused about why integral of (f-g) must be nonnegative?
    – Duaa Hamzeh
    Nov 26 '18 at 5:58










  • @DuaaHamzeh $f-g=0$ a.e., so $f-g$ is non-negative a.e. I dont like the proof of this book, it is complicated without any sense
    – Masacroso
    Nov 26 '18 at 5:59












  • Again. The domination property. If $u leq v$ a.e. then the intergal of $u$ is less than or equal to that of $v$. This follows from saying if $v-u leq 0$ a.e. then $int v-u leq 0.$ Prove this with an approximation argument.
    – Sean Roberson
    Nov 26 '18 at 6:01










  • Perhaps also share what Theorem 2.2 (b) is?
    – AlkaKadri
    Nov 26 '18 at 6:02
















The integral preserves order. If $phi$ dominates $f-g$ and the latter is a.e. zero, then $phi$ is a.e. nonnegative, and hence the integral is nonnegative.
– Sean Roberson
Nov 26 '18 at 5:55




The integral preserves order. If $phi$ dominates $f-g$ and the latter is a.e. zero, then $phi$ is a.e. nonnegative, and hence the integral is nonnegative.
– Sean Roberson
Nov 26 '18 at 5:55












Thanks alot. But I confused about why integral of (f-g) must be nonnegative?
– Duaa Hamzeh
Nov 26 '18 at 5:58




Thanks alot. But I confused about why integral of (f-g) must be nonnegative?
– Duaa Hamzeh
Nov 26 '18 at 5:58












@DuaaHamzeh $f-g=0$ a.e., so $f-g$ is non-negative a.e. I dont like the proof of this book, it is complicated without any sense
– Masacroso
Nov 26 '18 at 5:59






@DuaaHamzeh $f-g=0$ a.e., so $f-g$ is non-negative a.e. I dont like the proof of this book, it is complicated without any sense
– Masacroso
Nov 26 '18 at 5:59














Again. The domination property. If $u leq v$ a.e. then the intergal of $u$ is less than or equal to that of $v$. This follows from saying if $v-u leq 0$ a.e. then $int v-u leq 0.$ Prove this with an approximation argument.
– Sean Roberson
Nov 26 '18 at 6:01




Again. The domination property. If $u leq v$ a.e. then the intergal of $u$ is less than or equal to that of $v$. This follows from saying if $v-u leq 0$ a.e. then $int v-u leq 0.$ Prove this with an approximation argument.
– Sean Roberson
Nov 26 '18 at 6:01












Perhaps also share what Theorem 2.2 (b) is?
– AlkaKadri
Nov 26 '18 at 6:02




Perhaps also share what Theorem 2.2 (b) is?
– AlkaKadri
Nov 26 '18 at 6:02










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Let's prove this: Suppose $f geq 0$ on a measurable set $E.$ Then $int_E f geq 0.$



Choose a simple function $u$ supported on $E$ so $u leq f$ and $u geq 0.$ Then



$$ int_E u = sum u_j m(E_j) $$



where $m$ is Lebesgue measure, $u_j geq 0$, and the $E_j$ is a partition of $E$. Then the above is nonnegative. It follows that the supremum over all simple functions $u$ that approximate $f$ from below is nonnegative, and hence $int_E f geq 0.$



The result that $f leq g$ a.e. on $E$ implies $int_E f leq int_E g$ follows by replacing $f$ with $g-f$ in the above.






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    Let's prove this: Suppose $f geq 0$ on a measurable set $E.$ Then $int_E f geq 0.$



    Choose a simple function $u$ supported on $E$ so $u leq f$ and $u geq 0.$ Then



    $$ int_E u = sum u_j m(E_j) $$



    where $m$ is Lebesgue measure, $u_j geq 0$, and the $E_j$ is a partition of $E$. Then the above is nonnegative. It follows that the supremum over all simple functions $u$ that approximate $f$ from below is nonnegative, and hence $int_E f geq 0.$



    The result that $f leq g$ a.e. on $E$ implies $int_E f leq int_E g$ follows by replacing $f$ with $g-f$ in the above.






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      Let's prove this: Suppose $f geq 0$ on a measurable set $E.$ Then $int_E f geq 0.$



      Choose a simple function $u$ supported on $E$ so $u leq f$ and $u geq 0.$ Then



      $$ int_E u = sum u_j m(E_j) $$



      where $m$ is Lebesgue measure, $u_j geq 0$, and the $E_j$ is a partition of $E$. Then the above is nonnegative. It follows that the supremum over all simple functions $u$ that approximate $f$ from below is nonnegative, and hence $int_E f geq 0.$



      The result that $f leq g$ a.e. on $E$ implies $int_E f leq int_E g$ follows by replacing $f$ with $g-f$ in the above.






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        Let's prove this: Suppose $f geq 0$ on a measurable set $E.$ Then $int_E f geq 0.$



        Choose a simple function $u$ supported on $E$ so $u leq f$ and $u geq 0.$ Then



        $$ int_E u = sum u_j m(E_j) $$



        where $m$ is Lebesgue measure, $u_j geq 0$, and the $E_j$ is a partition of $E$. Then the above is nonnegative. It follows that the supremum over all simple functions $u$ that approximate $f$ from below is nonnegative, and hence $int_E f geq 0.$



        The result that $f leq g$ a.e. on $E$ implies $int_E f leq int_E g$ follows by replacing $f$ with $g-f$ in the above.






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        Let's prove this: Suppose $f geq 0$ on a measurable set $E.$ Then $int_E f geq 0.$



        Choose a simple function $u$ supported on $E$ so $u leq f$ and $u geq 0.$ Then



        $$ int_E u = sum u_j m(E_j) $$



        where $m$ is Lebesgue measure, $u_j geq 0$, and the $E_j$ is a partition of $E$. Then the above is nonnegative. It follows that the supremum over all simple functions $u$ that approximate $f$ from below is nonnegative, and hence $int_E f geq 0.$



        The result that $f leq g$ a.e. on $E$ implies $int_E f leq int_E g$ follows by replacing $f$ with $g-f$ in the above.







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