Shortest distance between two lines and common perpendicular












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Line 1 has equation: $dfrac{x-8}{3}=dfrac{y+9}{-16}=dfrac{z+1}{-2}$



Line 2 has equation:
$left(begin{matrix}x\y\z
end{matrix}right)=left(begin{matrix}15\29\5
end{matrix}right) + left(begin{matrix}3\8\-5
end{matrix}right)t$



How do you find the shortest distance between lines 1 and 2?



Also how would I find the coordinates of the points where the common perpendicular meets the line 1 and 2? Would I use cross product of direction vectors from both lines? But how would I find the coordinate that starts from?










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    Hint: to find two points on Line 1, you can look for values for (x;y;z) which result in 0 or 1. This leads to points (8; -9; -1) and (11; -25; -3). From there, you directly get an equation of the second form, including both direction vectors.
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    What do you mean by second form??
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    The shortest distance between two lines is the length of projection of any vector between the two lines onto the cross product of the direction of the two lines.
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    – Yiyuan Lee
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    The "second form" is the form used for Line 2: point plus multiple of direction vector. Once you have two points, you can use their difference as direction vector and one of the points as starting point.
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Line 1 has equation: $dfrac{x-8}{3}=dfrac{y+9}{-16}=dfrac{z+1}{-2}$



Line 2 has equation:
$left(begin{matrix}x\y\z
end{matrix}right)=left(begin{matrix}15\29\5
end{matrix}right) + left(begin{matrix}3\8\-5
end{matrix}right)t$



How do you find the shortest distance between lines 1 and 2?



Also how would I find the coordinates of the points where the common perpendicular meets the line 1 and 2? Would I use cross product of direction vectors from both lines? But how would I find the coordinate that starts from?










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    math.stackexchange.com/questions/210848/…
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    – user137731
    Dec 1 '15 at 14:05










  • $begingroup$
    Hint: to find two points on Line 1, you can look for values for (x;y;z) which result in 0 or 1. This leads to points (8; -9; -1) and (11; -25; -3). From there, you directly get an equation of the second form, including both direction vectors.
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    – Axel Kemper
    Dec 1 '15 at 14:09










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    What do you mean by second form??
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    – Ivy
    Dec 1 '15 at 14:17










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    The shortest distance between two lines is the length of projection of any vector between the two lines onto the cross product of the direction of the two lines.
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    – Yiyuan Lee
    Dec 1 '15 at 14:20










  • $begingroup$
    The "second form" is the form used for Line 2: point plus multiple of direction vector. Once you have two points, you can use their difference as direction vector and one of the points as starting point.
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    – Axel Kemper
    Dec 1 '15 at 14:28














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Line 1 has equation: $dfrac{x-8}{3}=dfrac{y+9}{-16}=dfrac{z+1}{-2}$



Line 2 has equation:
$left(begin{matrix}x\y\z
end{matrix}right)=left(begin{matrix}15\29\5
end{matrix}right) + left(begin{matrix}3\8\-5
end{matrix}right)t$



How do you find the shortest distance between lines 1 and 2?



Also how would I find the coordinates of the points where the common perpendicular meets the line 1 and 2? Would I use cross product of direction vectors from both lines? But how would I find the coordinate that starts from?










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Line 1 has equation: $dfrac{x-8}{3}=dfrac{y+9}{-16}=dfrac{z+1}{-2}$



Line 2 has equation:
$left(begin{matrix}x\y\z
end{matrix}right)=left(begin{matrix}15\29\5
end{matrix}right) + left(begin{matrix}3\8\-5
end{matrix}right)t$



How do you find the shortest distance between lines 1 and 2?



Also how would I find the coordinates of the points where the common perpendicular meets the line 1 and 2? Would I use cross product of direction vectors from both lines? But how would I find the coordinate that starts from?







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  • $begingroup$
    math.stackexchange.com/questions/210848/…
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    – user137731
    Dec 1 '15 at 14:05










  • $begingroup$
    Hint: to find two points on Line 1, you can look for values for (x;y;z) which result in 0 or 1. This leads to points (8; -9; -1) and (11; -25; -3). From there, you directly get an equation of the second form, including both direction vectors.
    $endgroup$
    – Axel Kemper
    Dec 1 '15 at 14:09










  • $begingroup$
    What do you mean by second form??
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    – Ivy
    Dec 1 '15 at 14:17










  • $begingroup$
    The shortest distance between two lines is the length of projection of any vector between the two lines onto the cross product of the direction of the two lines.
    $endgroup$
    – Yiyuan Lee
    Dec 1 '15 at 14:20










  • $begingroup$
    The "second form" is the form used for Line 2: point plus multiple of direction vector. Once you have two points, you can use their difference as direction vector and one of the points as starting point.
    $endgroup$
    – Axel Kemper
    Dec 1 '15 at 14:28


















  • $begingroup$
    math.stackexchange.com/questions/210848/…
    $endgroup$
    – user137731
    Dec 1 '15 at 14:05










  • $begingroup$
    Hint: to find two points on Line 1, you can look for values for (x;y;z) which result in 0 or 1. This leads to points (8; -9; -1) and (11; -25; -3). From there, you directly get an equation of the second form, including both direction vectors.
    $endgroup$
    – Axel Kemper
    Dec 1 '15 at 14:09










  • $begingroup$
    What do you mean by second form??
    $endgroup$
    – Ivy
    Dec 1 '15 at 14:17










  • $begingroup$
    The shortest distance between two lines is the length of projection of any vector between the two lines onto the cross product of the direction of the two lines.
    $endgroup$
    – Yiyuan Lee
    Dec 1 '15 at 14:20










  • $begingroup$
    The "second form" is the form used for Line 2: point plus multiple of direction vector. Once you have two points, you can use their difference as direction vector and one of the points as starting point.
    $endgroup$
    – Axel Kemper
    Dec 1 '15 at 14:28
















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math.stackexchange.com/questions/210848/…
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Dec 1 '15 at 14:05




$begingroup$
math.stackexchange.com/questions/210848/…
$endgroup$
– user137731
Dec 1 '15 at 14:05












$begingroup$
Hint: to find two points on Line 1, you can look for values for (x;y;z) which result in 0 or 1. This leads to points (8; -9; -1) and (11; -25; -3). From there, you directly get an equation of the second form, including both direction vectors.
$endgroup$
– Axel Kemper
Dec 1 '15 at 14:09




$begingroup$
Hint: to find two points on Line 1, you can look for values for (x;y;z) which result in 0 or 1. This leads to points (8; -9; -1) and (11; -25; -3). From there, you directly get an equation of the second form, including both direction vectors.
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– Axel Kemper
Dec 1 '15 at 14:09












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What do you mean by second form??
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– Ivy
Dec 1 '15 at 14:17




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What do you mean by second form??
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– Ivy
Dec 1 '15 at 14:17












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The shortest distance between two lines is the length of projection of any vector between the two lines onto the cross product of the direction of the two lines.
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– Yiyuan Lee
Dec 1 '15 at 14:20




$begingroup$
The shortest distance between two lines is the length of projection of any vector between the two lines onto the cross product of the direction of the two lines.
$endgroup$
– Yiyuan Lee
Dec 1 '15 at 14:20












$begingroup$
The "second form" is the form used for Line 2: point plus multiple of direction vector. Once you have two points, you can use their difference as direction vector and one of the points as starting point.
$endgroup$
– Axel Kemper
Dec 1 '15 at 14:28




$begingroup$
The "second form" is the form used for Line 2: point plus multiple of direction vector. Once you have two points, you can use their difference as direction vector and one of the points as starting point.
$endgroup$
– Axel Kemper
Dec 1 '15 at 14:28










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My answer is based on Lee Yiyuan's suggestion.



Rewrite the equation of line 1 as



$$left(begin{matrix}x\y\zend{matrix}right)
=left(begin{matrix}8\-9\-1end{matrix}right)
+left(begin{matrix}3\-16\-2end{matrix}right) t.
$$



A vector perpendicular to both lines is



$$begin{vmatrix}i&j&k\3&-16&-2\3&8&-5end{vmatrix}
=96i+9j+72k.$$



One of the vectors joining two lines is



$$left(begin{matrix}8\-9\-1end{matrix}right)
-left(begin{matrix}15\29\5end{matrix}right)
=left(begin{matrix}-7\-38\-6end{matrix}right).
$$



Calculate the projection of this vector to the vector perpendicular to both lines, and then take its absolute value as the final answer.



begin{split}
& mbox{Distance between $L_1$ and $L_2$}\
=&leftlvertfrac{langle(-7,-38,-6),(96,9,72)rangle}{lVert(96,9,72)rVert}rightrvert\
=&leftlvertfrac{-1446}{sqrt{14481}}rightrvert\
=&frac{482}{sqrt{1609}}
end{split}






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    My answer is based on Lee Yiyuan's suggestion.



    Rewrite the equation of line 1 as



    $$left(begin{matrix}x\y\zend{matrix}right)
    =left(begin{matrix}8\-9\-1end{matrix}right)
    +left(begin{matrix}3\-16\-2end{matrix}right) t.
    $$



    A vector perpendicular to both lines is



    $$begin{vmatrix}i&j&k\3&-16&-2\3&8&-5end{vmatrix}
    =96i+9j+72k.$$



    One of the vectors joining two lines is



    $$left(begin{matrix}8\-9\-1end{matrix}right)
    -left(begin{matrix}15\29\5end{matrix}right)
    =left(begin{matrix}-7\-38\-6end{matrix}right).
    $$



    Calculate the projection of this vector to the vector perpendicular to both lines, and then take its absolute value as the final answer.



    begin{split}
    & mbox{Distance between $L_1$ and $L_2$}\
    =&leftlvertfrac{langle(-7,-38,-6),(96,9,72)rangle}{lVert(96,9,72)rVert}rightrvert\
    =&leftlvertfrac{-1446}{sqrt{14481}}rightrvert\
    =&frac{482}{sqrt{1609}}
    end{split}






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      $begingroup$

      My answer is based on Lee Yiyuan's suggestion.



      Rewrite the equation of line 1 as



      $$left(begin{matrix}x\y\zend{matrix}right)
      =left(begin{matrix}8\-9\-1end{matrix}right)
      +left(begin{matrix}3\-16\-2end{matrix}right) t.
      $$



      A vector perpendicular to both lines is



      $$begin{vmatrix}i&j&k\3&-16&-2\3&8&-5end{vmatrix}
      =96i+9j+72k.$$



      One of the vectors joining two lines is



      $$left(begin{matrix}8\-9\-1end{matrix}right)
      -left(begin{matrix}15\29\5end{matrix}right)
      =left(begin{matrix}-7\-38\-6end{matrix}right).
      $$



      Calculate the projection of this vector to the vector perpendicular to both lines, and then take its absolute value as the final answer.



      begin{split}
      & mbox{Distance between $L_1$ and $L_2$}\
      =&leftlvertfrac{langle(-7,-38,-6),(96,9,72)rangle}{lVert(96,9,72)rVert}rightrvert\
      =&leftlvertfrac{-1446}{sqrt{14481}}rightrvert\
      =&frac{482}{sqrt{1609}}
      end{split}






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        $begingroup$

        My answer is based on Lee Yiyuan's suggestion.



        Rewrite the equation of line 1 as



        $$left(begin{matrix}x\y\zend{matrix}right)
        =left(begin{matrix}8\-9\-1end{matrix}right)
        +left(begin{matrix}3\-16\-2end{matrix}right) t.
        $$



        A vector perpendicular to both lines is



        $$begin{vmatrix}i&j&k\3&-16&-2\3&8&-5end{vmatrix}
        =96i+9j+72k.$$



        One of the vectors joining two lines is



        $$left(begin{matrix}8\-9\-1end{matrix}right)
        -left(begin{matrix}15\29\5end{matrix}right)
        =left(begin{matrix}-7\-38\-6end{matrix}right).
        $$



        Calculate the projection of this vector to the vector perpendicular to both lines, and then take its absolute value as the final answer.



        begin{split}
        & mbox{Distance between $L_1$ and $L_2$}\
        =&leftlvertfrac{langle(-7,-38,-6),(96,9,72)rangle}{lVert(96,9,72)rVert}rightrvert\
        =&leftlvertfrac{-1446}{sqrt{14481}}rightrvert\
        =&frac{482}{sqrt{1609}}
        end{split}






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        My answer is based on Lee Yiyuan's suggestion.



        Rewrite the equation of line 1 as



        $$left(begin{matrix}x\y\zend{matrix}right)
        =left(begin{matrix}8\-9\-1end{matrix}right)
        +left(begin{matrix}3\-16\-2end{matrix}right) t.
        $$



        A vector perpendicular to both lines is



        $$begin{vmatrix}i&j&k\3&-16&-2\3&8&-5end{vmatrix}
        =96i+9j+72k.$$



        One of the vectors joining two lines is



        $$left(begin{matrix}8\-9\-1end{matrix}right)
        -left(begin{matrix}15\29\5end{matrix}right)
        =left(begin{matrix}-7\-38\-6end{matrix}right).
        $$



        Calculate the projection of this vector to the vector perpendicular to both lines, and then take its absolute value as the final answer.



        begin{split}
        & mbox{Distance between $L_1$ and $L_2$}\
        =&leftlvertfrac{langle(-7,-38,-6),(96,9,72)rangle}{lVert(96,9,72)rVert}rightrvert\
        =&leftlvertfrac{-1446}{sqrt{14481}}rightrvert\
        =&frac{482}{sqrt{1609}}
        end{split}







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