Domain of validity for the asymptotic expansion of the Bessel function of the first kind












1












$begingroup$


A very short question here... I'd like to use an asymptotic approximation of a Bessel functions, which I've found given in several places as $J_nu(z)=sqrt{frac{2}{pi z}}cos(z-frac{1}{2}nu pi -frac{pi}{4})$ for $|arg(z)|<pi$ for large z.



My question is, doesn't this mean that the asymptotic form is valid for all nonnegative arguments z, since $|arg(z)|<pi$ means $-pi<arg(z)<pi$? Am I misunderstanding the references' conditions or is that all there is to it?



I don't know how to derive such an expansion myself, so I don't know where the condition came from. Is it correct that the asymptotic expression is valid for all large z away from the negative real line?










share|cite|improve this question









$endgroup$

















    1












    $begingroup$


    A very short question here... I'd like to use an asymptotic approximation of a Bessel functions, which I've found given in several places as $J_nu(z)=sqrt{frac{2}{pi z}}cos(z-frac{1}{2}nu pi -frac{pi}{4})$ for $|arg(z)|<pi$ for large z.



    My question is, doesn't this mean that the asymptotic form is valid for all nonnegative arguments z, since $|arg(z)|<pi$ means $-pi<arg(z)<pi$? Am I misunderstanding the references' conditions or is that all there is to it?



    I don't know how to derive such an expansion myself, so I don't know where the condition came from. Is it correct that the asymptotic expression is valid for all large z away from the negative real line?










    share|cite|improve this question









    $endgroup$















      1












      1








      1





      $begingroup$


      A very short question here... I'd like to use an asymptotic approximation of a Bessel functions, which I've found given in several places as $J_nu(z)=sqrt{frac{2}{pi z}}cos(z-frac{1}{2}nu pi -frac{pi}{4})$ for $|arg(z)|<pi$ for large z.



      My question is, doesn't this mean that the asymptotic form is valid for all nonnegative arguments z, since $|arg(z)|<pi$ means $-pi<arg(z)<pi$? Am I misunderstanding the references' conditions or is that all there is to it?



      I don't know how to derive such an expansion myself, so I don't know where the condition came from. Is it correct that the asymptotic expression is valid for all large z away from the negative real line?










      share|cite|improve this question









      $endgroup$




      A very short question here... I'd like to use an asymptotic approximation of a Bessel functions, which I've found given in several places as $J_nu(z)=sqrt{frac{2}{pi z}}cos(z-frac{1}{2}nu pi -frac{pi}{4})$ for $|arg(z)|<pi$ for large z.



      My question is, doesn't this mean that the asymptotic form is valid for all nonnegative arguments z, since $|arg(z)|<pi$ means $-pi<arg(z)<pi$? Am I misunderstanding the references' conditions or is that all there is to it?



      I don't know how to derive such an expansion myself, so I don't know where the condition came from. Is it correct that the asymptotic expression is valid for all large z away from the negative real line?







      asymptotics bessel-functions






      share|cite|improve this question













      share|cite|improve this question











      share|cite|improve this question




      share|cite|improve this question










      asked Dec 13 '18 at 22:54









      BGreenBGreen

      412211




      412211






















          1 Answer
          1






          active

          oldest

          votes


















          1












          $begingroup$

          From its expansion,
          $$J_{nu}left(zright)=(tfrac{1}{2}z)^{nu}sum_{k=0}^{infty}(-1)^{k}frac{(%
          tfrac{1}{4}z^{2})^{k}}{k!Gammaleft(nu+k+1right)}$$

          is an analytic function of $z$, except for a branch point at $z=0$ when $nu$ is not an integer (see here). In this case, the given condition $left|operatorname{Arg}(z)right|<pi$ corresponds to the principal branch of $J_nu(z)$ (cut along the negative real axis).



          If $nu$ is an integer, $J_nu(-z)=(-1)^nu J_nu(z)$, which allows to find the asymptotic expansion for $z<0$.






          share|cite|improve this answer









          $endgroup$













          • $begingroup$
            If I'm understanding correctly, then it really does just mean that the expansion is valid for all z not on the negative real line, correct?
            $endgroup$
            – BGreen
            Dec 14 '18 at 17:04










          • $begingroup$
            Yes, if $nu$ is not an integer. If it is, you can find a more general expression for the expansion.
            $endgroup$
            – Paul Enta
            Dec 14 '18 at 17:11











          Your Answer





          StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
          return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
          StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
          StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
          });
          });
          }, "mathjax-editing");

          StackExchange.ready(function() {
          var channelOptions = {
          tags: "".split(" "),
          id: "69"
          };
          initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

          StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
          // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
          if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
          StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
          createEditor();
          });
          }
          else {
          createEditor();
          }
          });

          function createEditor() {
          StackExchange.prepareEditor({
          heartbeatType: 'answer',
          autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
          convertImagesToLinks: true,
          noModals: true,
          showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
          reputationToPostImages: 10,
          bindNavPrevention: true,
          postfix: "",
          imageUploader: {
          brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
          contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
          allowUrls: true
          },
          noCode: true, onDemand: true,
          discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
          ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
          });


          }
          });














          draft saved

          draft discarded


















          StackExchange.ready(
          function () {
          StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3038700%2fdomain-of-validity-for-the-asymptotic-expansion-of-the-bessel-function-of-the-fi%23new-answer', 'question_page');
          }
          );

          Post as a guest















          Required, but never shown

























          1 Answer
          1






          active

          oldest

          votes








          1 Answer
          1






          active

          oldest

          votes









          active

          oldest

          votes






          active

          oldest

          votes









          1












          $begingroup$

          From its expansion,
          $$J_{nu}left(zright)=(tfrac{1}{2}z)^{nu}sum_{k=0}^{infty}(-1)^{k}frac{(%
          tfrac{1}{4}z^{2})^{k}}{k!Gammaleft(nu+k+1right)}$$

          is an analytic function of $z$, except for a branch point at $z=0$ when $nu$ is not an integer (see here). In this case, the given condition $left|operatorname{Arg}(z)right|<pi$ corresponds to the principal branch of $J_nu(z)$ (cut along the negative real axis).



          If $nu$ is an integer, $J_nu(-z)=(-1)^nu J_nu(z)$, which allows to find the asymptotic expansion for $z<0$.






          share|cite|improve this answer









          $endgroup$













          • $begingroup$
            If I'm understanding correctly, then it really does just mean that the expansion is valid for all z not on the negative real line, correct?
            $endgroup$
            – BGreen
            Dec 14 '18 at 17:04










          • $begingroup$
            Yes, if $nu$ is not an integer. If it is, you can find a more general expression for the expansion.
            $endgroup$
            – Paul Enta
            Dec 14 '18 at 17:11
















          1












          $begingroup$

          From its expansion,
          $$J_{nu}left(zright)=(tfrac{1}{2}z)^{nu}sum_{k=0}^{infty}(-1)^{k}frac{(%
          tfrac{1}{4}z^{2})^{k}}{k!Gammaleft(nu+k+1right)}$$

          is an analytic function of $z$, except for a branch point at $z=0$ when $nu$ is not an integer (see here). In this case, the given condition $left|operatorname{Arg}(z)right|<pi$ corresponds to the principal branch of $J_nu(z)$ (cut along the negative real axis).



          If $nu$ is an integer, $J_nu(-z)=(-1)^nu J_nu(z)$, which allows to find the asymptotic expansion for $z<0$.






          share|cite|improve this answer









          $endgroup$













          • $begingroup$
            If I'm understanding correctly, then it really does just mean that the expansion is valid for all z not on the negative real line, correct?
            $endgroup$
            – BGreen
            Dec 14 '18 at 17:04










          • $begingroup$
            Yes, if $nu$ is not an integer. If it is, you can find a more general expression for the expansion.
            $endgroup$
            – Paul Enta
            Dec 14 '18 at 17:11














          1












          1








          1





          $begingroup$

          From its expansion,
          $$J_{nu}left(zright)=(tfrac{1}{2}z)^{nu}sum_{k=0}^{infty}(-1)^{k}frac{(%
          tfrac{1}{4}z^{2})^{k}}{k!Gammaleft(nu+k+1right)}$$

          is an analytic function of $z$, except for a branch point at $z=0$ when $nu$ is not an integer (see here). In this case, the given condition $left|operatorname{Arg}(z)right|<pi$ corresponds to the principal branch of $J_nu(z)$ (cut along the negative real axis).



          If $nu$ is an integer, $J_nu(-z)=(-1)^nu J_nu(z)$, which allows to find the asymptotic expansion for $z<0$.






          share|cite|improve this answer









          $endgroup$



          From its expansion,
          $$J_{nu}left(zright)=(tfrac{1}{2}z)^{nu}sum_{k=0}^{infty}(-1)^{k}frac{(%
          tfrac{1}{4}z^{2})^{k}}{k!Gammaleft(nu+k+1right)}$$

          is an analytic function of $z$, except for a branch point at $z=0$ when $nu$ is not an integer (see here). In this case, the given condition $left|operatorname{Arg}(z)right|<pi$ corresponds to the principal branch of $J_nu(z)$ (cut along the negative real axis).



          If $nu$ is an integer, $J_nu(-z)=(-1)^nu J_nu(z)$, which allows to find the asymptotic expansion for $z<0$.







          share|cite|improve this answer












          share|cite|improve this answer



          share|cite|improve this answer










          answered Dec 14 '18 at 15:21









          Paul EntaPaul Enta

          5,18111334




          5,18111334












          • $begingroup$
            If I'm understanding correctly, then it really does just mean that the expansion is valid for all z not on the negative real line, correct?
            $endgroup$
            – BGreen
            Dec 14 '18 at 17:04










          • $begingroup$
            Yes, if $nu$ is not an integer. If it is, you can find a more general expression for the expansion.
            $endgroup$
            – Paul Enta
            Dec 14 '18 at 17:11


















          • $begingroup$
            If I'm understanding correctly, then it really does just mean that the expansion is valid for all z not on the negative real line, correct?
            $endgroup$
            – BGreen
            Dec 14 '18 at 17:04










          • $begingroup$
            Yes, if $nu$ is not an integer. If it is, you can find a more general expression for the expansion.
            $endgroup$
            – Paul Enta
            Dec 14 '18 at 17:11
















          $begingroup$
          If I'm understanding correctly, then it really does just mean that the expansion is valid for all z not on the negative real line, correct?
          $endgroup$
          – BGreen
          Dec 14 '18 at 17:04




          $begingroup$
          If I'm understanding correctly, then it really does just mean that the expansion is valid for all z not on the negative real line, correct?
          $endgroup$
          – BGreen
          Dec 14 '18 at 17:04












          $begingroup$
          Yes, if $nu$ is not an integer. If it is, you can find a more general expression for the expansion.
          $endgroup$
          – Paul Enta
          Dec 14 '18 at 17:11




          $begingroup$
          Yes, if $nu$ is not an integer. If it is, you can find a more general expression for the expansion.
          $endgroup$
          – Paul Enta
          Dec 14 '18 at 17:11


















          draft saved

          draft discarded




















































          Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!


          • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

          But avoid



          • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

          • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


          Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


          To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




          draft saved


          draft discarded














          StackExchange.ready(
          function () {
          StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3038700%2fdomain-of-validity-for-the-asymptotic-expansion-of-the-bessel-function-of-the-fi%23new-answer', 'question_page');
          }
          );

          Post as a guest















          Required, but never shown





















































          Required, but never shown














          Required, but never shown












          Required, but never shown







          Required, but never shown

































          Required, but never shown














          Required, but never shown












          Required, but never shown







          Required, but never shown







          Popular posts from this blog

          Plaza Victoria

          In PowerPoint, is there a keyboard shortcut for bulleted / numbered list?

          How to put 3 figures in Latex with 2 figures side by side and 1 below these side by side images but in...