Domain of validity for the asymptotic expansion of the Bessel function of the first kind












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A very short question here... I'd like to use an asymptotic approximation of a Bessel functions, which I've found given in several places as $J_nu(z)=sqrt{frac{2}{pi z}}cos(z-frac{1}{2}nu pi -frac{pi}{4})$ for $|arg(z)|<pi$ for large z.



My question is, doesn't this mean that the asymptotic form is valid for all nonnegative arguments z, since $|arg(z)|<pi$ means $-pi<arg(z)<pi$? Am I misunderstanding the references' conditions or is that all there is to it?



I don't know how to derive such an expansion myself, so I don't know where the condition came from. Is it correct that the asymptotic expression is valid for all large z away from the negative real line?










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    A very short question here... I'd like to use an asymptotic approximation of a Bessel functions, which I've found given in several places as $J_nu(z)=sqrt{frac{2}{pi z}}cos(z-frac{1}{2}nu pi -frac{pi}{4})$ for $|arg(z)|<pi$ for large z.



    My question is, doesn't this mean that the asymptotic form is valid for all nonnegative arguments z, since $|arg(z)|<pi$ means $-pi<arg(z)<pi$? Am I misunderstanding the references' conditions or is that all there is to it?



    I don't know how to derive such an expansion myself, so I don't know where the condition came from. Is it correct that the asymptotic expression is valid for all large z away from the negative real line?










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      A very short question here... I'd like to use an asymptotic approximation of a Bessel functions, which I've found given in several places as $J_nu(z)=sqrt{frac{2}{pi z}}cos(z-frac{1}{2}nu pi -frac{pi}{4})$ for $|arg(z)|<pi$ for large z.



      My question is, doesn't this mean that the asymptotic form is valid for all nonnegative arguments z, since $|arg(z)|<pi$ means $-pi<arg(z)<pi$? Am I misunderstanding the references' conditions or is that all there is to it?



      I don't know how to derive such an expansion myself, so I don't know where the condition came from. Is it correct that the asymptotic expression is valid for all large z away from the negative real line?










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      A very short question here... I'd like to use an asymptotic approximation of a Bessel functions, which I've found given in several places as $J_nu(z)=sqrt{frac{2}{pi z}}cos(z-frac{1}{2}nu pi -frac{pi}{4})$ for $|arg(z)|<pi$ for large z.



      My question is, doesn't this mean that the asymptotic form is valid for all nonnegative arguments z, since $|arg(z)|<pi$ means $-pi<arg(z)<pi$? Am I misunderstanding the references' conditions or is that all there is to it?



      I don't know how to derive such an expansion myself, so I don't know where the condition came from. Is it correct that the asymptotic expression is valid for all large z away from the negative real line?







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          From its expansion,
          $$J_{nu}left(zright)=(tfrac{1}{2}z)^{nu}sum_{k=0}^{infty}(-1)^{k}frac{(%
          tfrac{1}{4}z^{2})^{k}}{k!Gammaleft(nu+k+1right)}$$

          is an analytic function of $z$, except for a branch point at $z=0$ when $nu$ is not an integer (see here). In this case, the given condition $left|operatorname{Arg}(z)right|<pi$ corresponds to the principal branch of $J_nu(z)$ (cut along the negative real axis).



          If $nu$ is an integer, $J_nu(-z)=(-1)^nu J_nu(z)$, which allows to find the asymptotic expansion for $z<0$.






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            If I'm understanding correctly, then it really does just mean that the expansion is valid for all z not on the negative real line, correct?
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            Yes, if $nu$ is not an integer. If it is, you can find a more general expression for the expansion.
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          From its expansion,
          $$J_{nu}left(zright)=(tfrac{1}{2}z)^{nu}sum_{k=0}^{infty}(-1)^{k}frac{(%
          tfrac{1}{4}z^{2})^{k}}{k!Gammaleft(nu+k+1right)}$$

          is an analytic function of $z$, except for a branch point at $z=0$ when $nu$ is not an integer (see here). In this case, the given condition $left|operatorname{Arg}(z)right|<pi$ corresponds to the principal branch of $J_nu(z)$ (cut along the negative real axis).



          If $nu$ is an integer, $J_nu(-z)=(-1)^nu J_nu(z)$, which allows to find the asymptotic expansion for $z<0$.






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            If I'm understanding correctly, then it really does just mean that the expansion is valid for all z not on the negative real line, correct?
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            – BGreen
            Dec 14 '18 at 17:04










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            Yes, if $nu$ is not an integer. If it is, you can find a more general expression for the expansion.
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            – Paul Enta
            Dec 14 '18 at 17:11
















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          From its expansion,
          $$J_{nu}left(zright)=(tfrac{1}{2}z)^{nu}sum_{k=0}^{infty}(-1)^{k}frac{(%
          tfrac{1}{4}z^{2})^{k}}{k!Gammaleft(nu+k+1right)}$$

          is an analytic function of $z$, except for a branch point at $z=0$ when $nu$ is not an integer (see here). In this case, the given condition $left|operatorname{Arg}(z)right|<pi$ corresponds to the principal branch of $J_nu(z)$ (cut along the negative real axis).



          If $nu$ is an integer, $J_nu(-z)=(-1)^nu J_nu(z)$, which allows to find the asymptotic expansion for $z<0$.






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          • $begingroup$
            If I'm understanding correctly, then it really does just mean that the expansion is valid for all z not on the negative real line, correct?
            $endgroup$
            – BGreen
            Dec 14 '18 at 17:04










          • $begingroup$
            Yes, if $nu$ is not an integer. If it is, you can find a more general expression for the expansion.
            $endgroup$
            – Paul Enta
            Dec 14 '18 at 17:11














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          $begingroup$

          From its expansion,
          $$J_{nu}left(zright)=(tfrac{1}{2}z)^{nu}sum_{k=0}^{infty}(-1)^{k}frac{(%
          tfrac{1}{4}z^{2})^{k}}{k!Gammaleft(nu+k+1right)}$$

          is an analytic function of $z$, except for a branch point at $z=0$ when $nu$ is not an integer (see here). In this case, the given condition $left|operatorname{Arg}(z)right|<pi$ corresponds to the principal branch of $J_nu(z)$ (cut along the negative real axis).



          If $nu$ is an integer, $J_nu(-z)=(-1)^nu J_nu(z)$, which allows to find the asymptotic expansion for $z<0$.






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          From its expansion,
          $$J_{nu}left(zright)=(tfrac{1}{2}z)^{nu}sum_{k=0}^{infty}(-1)^{k}frac{(%
          tfrac{1}{4}z^{2})^{k}}{k!Gammaleft(nu+k+1right)}$$

          is an analytic function of $z$, except for a branch point at $z=0$ when $nu$ is not an integer (see here). In this case, the given condition $left|operatorname{Arg}(z)right|<pi$ corresponds to the principal branch of $J_nu(z)$ (cut along the negative real axis).



          If $nu$ is an integer, $J_nu(-z)=(-1)^nu J_nu(z)$, which allows to find the asymptotic expansion for $z<0$.







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          answered Dec 14 '18 at 15:21









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          • $begingroup$
            If I'm understanding correctly, then it really does just mean that the expansion is valid for all z not on the negative real line, correct?
            $endgroup$
            – BGreen
            Dec 14 '18 at 17:04










          • $begingroup$
            Yes, if $nu$ is not an integer. If it is, you can find a more general expression for the expansion.
            $endgroup$
            – Paul Enta
            Dec 14 '18 at 17:11


















          • $begingroup$
            If I'm understanding correctly, then it really does just mean that the expansion is valid for all z not on the negative real line, correct?
            $endgroup$
            – BGreen
            Dec 14 '18 at 17:04










          • $begingroup$
            Yes, if $nu$ is not an integer. If it is, you can find a more general expression for the expansion.
            $endgroup$
            – Paul Enta
            Dec 14 '18 at 17:11
















          $begingroup$
          If I'm understanding correctly, then it really does just mean that the expansion is valid for all z not on the negative real line, correct?
          $endgroup$
          – BGreen
          Dec 14 '18 at 17:04




          $begingroup$
          If I'm understanding correctly, then it really does just mean that the expansion is valid for all z not on the negative real line, correct?
          $endgroup$
          – BGreen
          Dec 14 '18 at 17:04












          $begingroup$
          Yes, if $nu$ is not an integer. If it is, you can find a more general expression for the expansion.
          $endgroup$
          – Paul Enta
          Dec 14 '18 at 17:11




          $begingroup$
          Yes, if $nu$ is not an integer. If it is, you can find a more general expression for the expansion.
          $endgroup$
          – Paul Enta
          Dec 14 '18 at 17:11


















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