Does higher Oxidation/ reduction potential translate to higher energy storage in battery?












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Some articles refer to the fact that Lithium is preferred metal of choice for batteries because their half cell voltage is high (slightly above 3V)



If that is the case why can't we use other metals like Mn which can have higher oxidation potential (Mn can have +7 oxidation state which translates to higher oxidation potential)?










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    There is a difference in a high oxidation state and a large EMF. A number of factors are considered in making a battery, not just the EMF of the half cell. A battery can relatively easily have multiple cells to get a higher voltage.
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Some articles refer to the fact that Lithium is preferred metal of choice for batteries because their half cell voltage is high (slightly above 3V)



If that is the case why can't we use other metals like Mn which can have higher oxidation potential (Mn can have +7 oxidation state which translates to higher oxidation potential)?










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    There is a difference in a high oxidation state and a large EMF. A number of factors are considered in making a battery, not just the EMF of the half cell. A battery can relatively easily have multiple cells to get a higher voltage.
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Some articles refer to the fact that Lithium is preferred metal of choice for batteries because their half cell voltage is high (slightly above 3V)



If that is the case why can't we use other metals like Mn which can have higher oxidation potential (Mn can have +7 oxidation state which translates to higher oxidation potential)?










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Some articles refer to the fact that Lithium is preferred metal of choice for batteries because their half cell voltage is high (slightly above 3V)



If that is the case why can't we use other metals like Mn which can have higher oxidation potential (Mn can have +7 oxidation state which translates to higher oxidation potential)?







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    There is a difference in a high oxidation state and a large EMF. A number of factors are considered in making a battery, not just the EMF of the half cell. A battery can relatively easily have multiple cells to get a higher voltage.
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    There is a difference in a high oxidation state and a large EMF. A number of factors are considered in making a battery, not just the EMF of the half cell. A battery can relatively easily have multiple cells to get a higher voltage.
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There is a difference in a high oxidation state and a large EMF. A number of factors are considered in making a battery, not just the EMF of the half cell. A battery can relatively easily have multiple cells to get a higher voltage.
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There is a difference in a high oxidation state and a large EMF. A number of factors are considered in making a battery, not just the EMF of the half cell. A battery can relatively easily have multiple cells to get a higher voltage.
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Energy storage depends on the electromotive potential (i.e. difference between species in the electromotive series) and on the number of electrons available.



Li, for example, has an oxidation potential of ~3.04 V relative to hydrogen, but Al has one of 1.66 V, so Li has the greater potential. On the other hand, Li has only one freely available outer electron, but Al has three, so Al stores more charge per mol, giving three times the capacity in coulombs on that basis. On the gripping hand, however, Li has a mass of ~7 amu, and Al is ~27 amu, so an aluminum cell carries around the dead weight of unused neutrons and inner electron/protons.



So, depending on the needs, Li batteries weigh relatively little and provide comparatively high potential, aluminum batteries would hold more charge at a bit lower voltage, and even Zn is useful, though deficient compared to those others in volts and coulombs (it also has a bunch of inert neutrons, but there is no charge for them), because it is relatively inexpensive.






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    Energy storage depends on the electromotive potential (i.e. difference between species in the electromotive series) and on the number of electrons available.



    Li, for example, has an oxidation potential of ~3.04 V relative to hydrogen, but Al has one of 1.66 V, so Li has the greater potential. On the other hand, Li has only one freely available outer electron, but Al has three, so Al stores more charge per mol, giving three times the capacity in coulombs on that basis. On the gripping hand, however, Li has a mass of ~7 amu, and Al is ~27 amu, so an aluminum cell carries around the dead weight of unused neutrons and inner electron/protons.



    So, depending on the needs, Li batteries weigh relatively little and provide comparatively high potential, aluminum batteries would hold more charge at a bit lower voltage, and even Zn is useful, though deficient compared to those others in volts and coulombs (it also has a bunch of inert neutrons, but there is no charge for them), because it is relatively inexpensive.






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      Energy storage depends on the electromotive potential (i.e. difference between species in the electromotive series) and on the number of electrons available.



      Li, for example, has an oxidation potential of ~3.04 V relative to hydrogen, but Al has one of 1.66 V, so Li has the greater potential. On the other hand, Li has only one freely available outer electron, but Al has three, so Al stores more charge per mol, giving three times the capacity in coulombs on that basis. On the gripping hand, however, Li has a mass of ~7 amu, and Al is ~27 amu, so an aluminum cell carries around the dead weight of unused neutrons and inner electron/protons.



      So, depending on the needs, Li batteries weigh relatively little and provide comparatively high potential, aluminum batteries would hold more charge at a bit lower voltage, and even Zn is useful, though deficient compared to those others in volts and coulombs (it also has a bunch of inert neutrons, but there is no charge for them), because it is relatively inexpensive.






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        Energy storage depends on the electromotive potential (i.e. difference between species in the electromotive series) and on the number of electrons available.



        Li, for example, has an oxidation potential of ~3.04 V relative to hydrogen, but Al has one of 1.66 V, so Li has the greater potential. On the other hand, Li has only one freely available outer electron, but Al has three, so Al stores more charge per mol, giving three times the capacity in coulombs on that basis. On the gripping hand, however, Li has a mass of ~7 amu, and Al is ~27 amu, so an aluminum cell carries around the dead weight of unused neutrons and inner electron/protons.



        So, depending on the needs, Li batteries weigh relatively little and provide comparatively high potential, aluminum batteries would hold more charge at a bit lower voltage, and even Zn is useful, though deficient compared to those others in volts and coulombs (it also has a bunch of inert neutrons, but there is no charge for them), because it is relatively inexpensive.






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        Energy storage depends on the electromotive potential (i.e. difference between species in the electromotive series) and on the number of electrons available.



        Li, for example, has an oxidation potential of ~3.04 V relative to hydrogen, but Al has one of 1.66 V, so Li has the greater potential. On the other hand, Li has only one freely available outer electron, but Al has three, so Al stores more charge per mol, giving three times the capacity in coulombs on that basis. On the gripping hand, however, Li has a mass of ~7 amu, and Al is ~27 amu, so an aluminum cell carries around the dead weight of unused neutrons and inner electron/protons.



        So, depending on the needs, Li batteries weigh relatively little and provide comparatively high potential, aluminum batteries would hold more charge at a bit lower voltage, and even Zn is useful, though deficient compared to those others in volts and coulombs (it also has a bunch of inert neutrons, but there is no charge for them), because it is relatively inexpensive.







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