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Ultima Thule is thought to be about 20 miles (30 km) across. However, I can't seem to find any detail about approach distance or typical image resolution of New Horizons in regards to the second target.



What I am interested in, is that Pluto is fairly larger as compared to Ultima Thule, we also knew a lot more about it before we got there. There are several technical details known about Pluto but not about Ultima Thule due to its dimness (it is a million times dimmer than Pluto) and distance, and that it was only discovered 4 years ago. These would seemingly help with the technical aspect of imagining id assume.



What meter/pixel resolution could we expect to get from such a small target?










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Ultima Thule is thought to be about 20 miles (30 km) across. However, I can't seem to find any detail about approach distance or typical image resolution of New Horizons in regards to the second target.



What I am interested in, is that Pluto is fairly larger as compared to Ultima Thule, we also knew a lot more about it before we got there. There are several technical details known about Pluto but not about Ultima Thule due to its dimness (it is a million times dimmer than Pluto) and distance, and that it was only discovered 4 years ago. These would seemingly help with the technical aspect of imagining id assume.



What meter/pixel resolution could we expect to get from such a small target?










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  • Can you clarify the second paragraph? In particular, the third clause of the first sentence is confusing in context, seems out of place, and is a bit of a non sequitur.
    – Alex Hajnal
    1 hour ago






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    @uhoh The OP just updated the question and the new wording makes a lot more sense. I am aware of what you mentioned.
    – Alex Hajnal
    1 hour ago










  • slightly related: How good are Lucy's cameras? Improvements since New Horizons?
    – uhoh
    1 hour ago














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Ultima Thule is thought to be about 20 miles (30 km) across. However, I can't seem to find any detail about approach distance or typical image resolution of New Horizons in regards to the second target.



What I am interested in, is that Pluto is fairly larger as compared to Ultima Thule, we also knew a lot more about it before we got there. There are several technical details known about Pluto but not about Ultima Thule due to its dimness (it is a million times dimmer than Pluto) and distance, and that it was only discovered 4 years ago. These would seemingly help with the technical aspect of imagining id assume.



What meter/pixel resolution could we expect to get from such a small target?










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Ultima Thule is thought to be about 20 miles (30 km) across. However, I can't seem to find any detail about approach distance or typical image resolution of New Horizons in regards to the second target.



What I am interested in, is that Pluto is fairly larger as compared to Ultima Thule, we also knew a lot more about it before we got there. There are several technical details known about Pluto but not about Ultima Thule due to its dimness (it is a million times dimmer than Pluto) and distance, and that it was only discovered 4 years ago. These would seemingly help with the technical aspect of imagining id assume.



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  • Can you clarify the second paragraph? In particular, the third clause of the first sentence is confusing in context, seems out of place, and is a bit of a non sequitur.
    – Alex Hajnal
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    @uhoh The OP just updated the question and the new wording makes a lot more sense. I am aware of what you mentioned.
    – Alex Hajnal
    1 hour ago










  • slightly related: How good are Lucy's cameras? Improvements since New Horizons?
    – uhoh
    1 hour ago


















  • Can you clarify the second paragraph? In particular, the third clause of the first sentence is confusing in context, seems out of place, and is a bit of a non sequitur.
    – Alex Hajnal
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    @uhoh The OP just updated the question and the new wording makes a lot more sense. I am aware of what you mentioned.
    – Alex Hajnal
    1 hour ago










  • slightly related: How good are Lucy's cameras? Improvements since New Horizons?
    – uhoh
    1 hour ago
















Can you clarify the second paragraph? In particular, the third clause of the first sentence is confusing in context, seems out of place, and is a bit of a non sequitur.
– Alex Hajnal
1 hour ago




Can you clarify the second paragraph? In particular, the third clause of the first sentence is confusing in context, seems out of place, and is a bit of a non sequitur.
– Alex Hajnal
1 hour ago




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1




@uhoh The OP just updated the question and the new wording makes a lot more sense. I am aware of what you mentioned.
– Alex Hajnal
1 hour ago




@uhoh The OP just updated the question and the new wording makes a lot more sense. I am aware of what you mentioned.
– Alex Hajnal
1 hour ago












slightly related: How good are Lucy's cameras? Improvements since New Horizons?
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I was gathering data to do the math and came across this:




New Horizons is planned to come within 3,500 km (2,200 mi) of 2014 MU69, three times closer than the spacecraft's earlier encounter with Pluto. Images with a resolution as fine as 30 m (98 ft) to 70 m (230 ft) are expected.[49[1]][62[2]]




Source: (486958) 2014 MU69, Wikipedia



Various estimates of 2014 MU69's diameter have been made:




  • 25–45 km 3

  • 30 km or binary pair of 15 to 20 km each 4

  • 30–45 km 5


Source: ibid, as cited





Note that "Ultima Thule" is currently just a nickname for 2014 MU69. As partially quoted on the above-linked Wikipedia page:




[W]e’re going to give 2014 MU69 [sic] a real name, rather than just the “license plate” designator it has now. The details of how we’ll name it are still being worked out, but NASA announced a few weeks back that it will involve a public naming contest. [6]




Another source7 adds:




After the flyby, NASA and the New Horizons team will choose a formal name to submit to the International Astronomical Union, based in part on whether MU69 [sic] is found to be a single body, a binary pair, or perhaps a system of multiple objects.






Citations:



1 Green, Jim (12 December 2017), New Horizons Explores the Kuiper Belt, 2017 American Geophysical Union (AGU) Fall Meeting in New Orleans: 12–15.

(PDF)



2 Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory (2017), New Horizons Files Flight Plan for 2019 Flyby, 6 September 2017, web page, retrieved 2018-12-27.



3 Buie, Marc (15 October 2014), New Horizons HST KBO Search Results: Status Report, Space Telescope Science Institute, 23.

(PDF)



4 Bill Keeter (3 August 2017), New Horizons' Next Target Just Got a Lot More Interesting, NASA, web page, retrieved 2018-12-27.



5 Lakdawalla, Emily (15 October 2014), Finally! New Horizons has a second target, Planetary Society blog, Planetary Society, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.



6 Stern, Alan (28 April 2017), No Sleeping Back on Earth!, NASA, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.



7 Tricia Talbert (13 March 2018), New Horizons Chooses Nickname for 'Ultimate' Flyby Target, NASA, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.






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I was gathering data to do the math and came across this:




New Horizons is planned to come within 3,500 km (2,200 mi) of 2014 MU69, three times closer than the spacecraft's earlier encounter with Pluto. Images with a resolution as fine as 30 m (98 ft) to 70 m (230 ft) are expected.[49[1]][62[2]]




Source: (486958) 2014 MU69, Wikipedia



Various estimates of 2014 MU69's diameter have been made:




  • 25–45 km 3

  • 30 km or binary pair of 15 to 20 km each 4

  • 30–45 km 5


Source: ibid, as cited





Note that "Ultima Thule" is currently just a nickname for 2014 MU69. As partially quoted on the above-linked Wikipedia page:




[W]e’re going to give 2014 MU69 [sic] a real name, rather than just the “license plate” designator it has now. The details of how we’ll name it are still being worked out, but NASA announced a few weeks back that it will involve a public naming contest. [6]




Another source7 adds:




After the flyby, NASA and the New Horizons team will choose a formal name to submit to the International Astronomical Union, based in part on whether MU69 [sic] is found to be a single body, a binary pair, or perhaps a system of multiple objects.






Citations:



1 Green, Jim (12 December 2017), New Horizons Explores the Kuiper Belt, 2017 American Geophysical Union (AGU) Fall Meeting in New Orleans: 12–15.

(PDF)



2 Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory (2017), New Horizons Files Flight Plan for 2019 Flyby, 6 September 2017, web page, retrieved 2018-12-27.



3 Buie, Marc (15 October 2014), New Horizons HST KBO Search Results: Status Report, Space Telescope Science Institute, 23.

(PDF)



4 Bill Keeter (3 August 2017), New Horizons' Next Target Just Got a Lot More Interesting, NASA, web page, retrieved 2018-12-27.



5 Lakdawalla, Emily (15 October 2014), Finally! New Horizons has a second target, Planetary Society blog, Planetary Society, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.



6 Stern, Alan (28 April 2017), No Sleeping Back on Earth!, NASA, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.



7 Tricia Talbert (13 March 2018), New Horizons Chooses Nickname for 'Ultimate' Flyby Target, NASA, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.






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    @BoostedNub How so? You mean mixing inline and numbered citations? I don't consider Wikipedia authoritative so I typically don't provide full, formal citations when I reference it (just links and acknowledgement).
    – Alex Hajnal
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  • If I were writing a formal research paper it would be different though; everything would get a proper citation, Wikipedia included. Note that given its non-authoritative nature, Wikipedia should never be used as a primary source in any serious paper. (It can be useful for tracking down primary sources though.)
    – Alex Hajnal
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4














I was gathering data to do the math and came across this:




New Horizons is planned to come within 3,500 km (2,200 mi) of 2014 MU69, three times closer than the spacecraft's earlier encounter with Pluto. Images with a resolution as fine as 30 m (98 ft) to 70 m (230 ft) are expected.[49[1]][62[2]]




Source: (486958) 2014 MU69, Wikipedia



Various estimates of 2014 MU69's diameter have been made:




  • 25–45 km 3

  • 30 km or binary pair of 15 to 20 km each 4

  • 30–45 km 5


Source: ibid, as cited





Note that "Ultima Thule" is currently just a nickname for 2014 MU69. As partially quoted on the above-linked Wikipedia page:




[W]e’re going to give 2014 MU69 [sic] a real name, rather than just the “license plate” designator it has now. The details of how we’ll name it are still being worked out, but NASA announced a few weeks back that it will involve a public naming contest. [6]




Another source7 adds:




After the flyby, NASA and the New Horizons team will choose a formal name to submit to the International Astronomical Union, based in part on whether MU69 [sic] is found to be a single body, a binary pair, or perhaps a system of multiple objects.






Citations:



1 Green, Jim (12 December 2017), New Horizons Explores the Kuiper Belt, 2017 American Geophysical Union (AGU) Fall Meeting in New Orleans: 12–15.

(PDF)



2 Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory (2017), New Horizons Files Flight Plan for 2019 Flyby, 6 September 2017, web page, retrieved 2018-12-27.



3 Buie, Marc (15 October 2014), New Horizons HST KBO Search Results: Status Report, Space Telescope Science Institute, 23.

(PDF)



4 Bill Keeter (3 August 2017), New Horizons' Next Target Just Got a Lot More Interesting, NASA, web page, retrieved 2018-12-27.



5 Lakdawalla, Emily (15 October 2014), Finally! New Horizons has a second target, Planetary Society blog, Planetary Society, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.



6 Stern, Alan (28 April 2017), No Sleeping Back on Earth!, NASA, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.



7 Tricia Talbert (13 March 2018), New Horizons Chooses Nickname for 'Ultimate' Flyby Target, NASA, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.






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  • Thanks for that info, exactly what i was looking for!
    – TheGeneral
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  • Remarkable citation style.
    – Boosted Nub
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  • 1




    @BoostedNub How so? You mean mixing inline and numbered citations? I don't consider Wikipedia authoritative so I typically don't provide full, formal citations when I reference it (just links and acknowledgement).
    – Alex Hajnal
    1 hour ago












  • If I were writing a formal research paper it would be different though; everything would get a proper citation, Wikipedia included. Note that given its non-authoritative nature, Wikipedia should never be used as a primary source in any serious paper. (It can be useful for tracking down primary sources though.)
    – Alex Hajnal
    1 hour ago














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I was gathering data to do the math and came across this:




New Horizons is planned to come within 3,500 km (2,200 mi) of 2014 MU69, three times closer than the spacecraft's earlier encounter with Pluto. Images with a resolution as fine as 30 m (98 ft) to 70 m (230 ft) are expected.[49[1]][62[2]]




Source: (486958) 2014 MU69, Wikipedia



Various estimates of 2014 MU69's diameter have been made:




  • 25–45 km 3

  • 30 km or binary pair of 15 to 20 km each 4

  • 30–45 km 5


Source: ibid, as cited





Note that "Ultima Thule" is currently just a nickname for 2014 MU69. As partially quoted on the above-linked Wikipedia page:




[W]e’re going to give 2014 MU69 [sic] a real name, rather than just the “license plate” designator it has now. The details of how we’ll name it are still being worked out, but NASA announced a few weeks back that it will involve a public naming contest. [6]




Another source7 adds:




After the flyby, NASA and the New Horizons team will choose a formal name to submit to the International Astronomical Union, based in part on whether MU69 [sic] is found to be a single body, a binary pair, or perhaps a system of multiple objects.






Citations:



1 Green, Jim (12 December 2017), New Horizons Explores the Kuiper Belt, 2017 American Geophysical Union (AGU) Fall Meeting in New Orleans: 12–15.

(PDF)



2 Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory (2017), New Horizons Files Flight Plan for 2019 Flyby, 6 September 2017, web page, retrieved 2018-12-27.



3 Buie, Marc (15 October 2014), New Horizons HST KBO Search Results: Status Report, Space Telescope Science Institute, 23.

(PDF)



4 Bill Keeter (3 August 2017), New Horizons' Next Target Just Got a Lot More Interesting, NASA, web page, retrieved 2018-12-27.



5 Lakdawalla, Emily (15 October 2014), Finally! New Horizons has a second target, Planetary Society blog, Planetary Society, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.



6 Stern, Alan (28 April 2017), No Sleeping Back on Earth!, NASA, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.



7 Tricia Talbert (13 March 2018), New Horizons Chooses Nickname for 'Ultimate' Flyby Target, NASA, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.






share|improve this answer














I was gathering data to do the math and came across this:




New Horizons is planned to come within 3,500 km (2,200 mi) of 2014 MU69, three times closer than the spacecraft's earlier encounter with Pluto. Images with a resolution as fine as 30 m (98 ft) to 70 m (230 ft) are expected.[49[1]][62[2]]




Source: (486958) 2014 MU69, Wikipedia



Various estimates of 2014 MU69's diameter have been made:




  • 25–45 km 3

  • 30 km or binary pair of 15 to 20 km each 4

  • 30–45 km 5


Source: ibid, as cited





Note that "Ultima Thule" is currently just a nickname for 2014 MU69. As partially quoted on the above-linked Wikipedia page:




[W]e’re going to give 2014 MU69 [sic] a real name, rather than just the “license plate” designator it has now. The details of how we’ll name it are still being worked out, but NASA announced a few weeks back that it will involve a public naming contest. [6]




Another source7 adds:




After the flyby, NASA and the New Horizons team will choose a formal name to submit to the International Astronomical Union, based in part on whether MU69 [sic] is found to be a single body, a binary pair, or perhaps a system of multiple objects.






Citations:



1 Green, Jim (12 December 2017), New Horizons Explores the Kuiper Belt, 2017 American Geophysical Union (AGU) Fall Meeting in New Orleans: 12–15.

(PDF)



2 Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory (2017), New Horizons Files Flight Plan for 2019 Flyby, 6 September 2017, web page, retrieved 2018-12-27.



3 Buie, Marc (15 October 2014), New Horizons HST KBO Search Results: Status Report, Space Telescope Science Institute, 23.

(PDF)



4 Bill Keeter (3 August 2017), New Horizons' Next Target Just Got a Lot More Interesting, NASA, web page, retrieved 2018-12-27.



5 Lakdawalla, Emily (15 October 2014), Finally! New Horizons has a second target, Planetary Society blog, Planetary Society, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.



6 Stern, Alan (28 April 2017), No Sleeping Back on Earth!, NASA, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.



7 Tricia Talbert (13 March 2018), New Horizons Chooses Nickname for 'Ultimate' Flyby Target, NASA, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.







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  • Remarkable citation style.
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    @BoostedNub How so? You mean mixing inline and numbered citations? I don't consider Wikipedia authoritative so I typically don't provide full, formal citations when I reference it (just links and acknowledgement).
    – Alex Hajnal
    1 hour ago












  • If I were writing a formal research paper it would be different though; everything would get a proper citation, Wikipedia included. Note that given its non-authoritative nature, Wikipedia should never be used as a primary source in any serious paper. (It can be useful for tracking down primary sources though.)
    – Alex Hajnal
    1 hour ago


















  • Thanks for that info, exactly what i was looking for!
    – TheGeneral
    2 hours ago










  • Remarkable citation style.
    – Boosted Nub
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    @BoostedNub How so? You mean mixing inline and numbered citations? I don't consider Wikipedia authoritative so I typically don't provide full, formal citations when I reference it (just links and acknowledgement).
    – Alex Hajnal
    1 hour ago












  • If I were writing a formal research paper it would be different though; everything would get a proper citation, Wikipedia included. Note that given its non-authoritative nature, Wikipedia should never be used as a primary source in any serious paper. (It can be useful for tracking down primary sources though.)
    – Alex Hajnal
    1 hour ago
















Thanks for that info, exactly what i was looking for!
– TheGeneral
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Thanks for that info, exactly what i was looking for!
– TheGeneral
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Remarkable citation style.
– Boosted Nub
1 hour ago




Remarkable citation style.
– Boosted Nub
1 hour ago




1




1




@BoostedNub How so? You mean mixing inline and numbered citations? I don't consider Wikipedia authoritative so I typically don't provide full, formal citations when I reference it (just links and acknowledgement).
– Alex Hajnal
1 hour ago






@BoostedNub How so? You mean mixing inline and numbered citations? I don't consider Wikipedia authoritative so I typically don't provide full, formal citations when I reference it (just links and acknowledgement).
– Alex Hajnal
1 hour ago














If I were writing a formal research paper it would be different though; everything would get a proper citation, Wikipedia included. Note that given its non-authoritative nature, Wikipedia should never be used as a primary source in any serious paper. (It can be useful for tracking down primary sources though.)
– Alex Hajnal
1 hour ago




If I were writing a formal research paper it would be different though; everything would get a proper citation, Wikipedia included. Note that given its non-authoritative nature, Wikipedia should never be used as a primary source in any serious paper. (It can be useful for tracking down primary sources though.)
– Alex Hajnal
1 hour ago










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