Smallest integer power for an inequality to hold












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so I have this inequality:
Given integers $m, kgeq1$.



$$2^{m/k} > frac{3}{2}$$



I'm interested in finding the smallest integer power $m$, as a function of $k$, that will make this inequality hold true.



I've made a few calculations and came up with $m$ as:
$$m(k) = [ 6k/10 + 0.5 ] - [k/70]$$



I'm almost certain that this $m$, for any given $k$, will satisfy the inequality. I believe it is the smallest integer (I don't know how to prove it, a proof will be appreciated!), but I wonder if there's a way to find another m that's a lot simpler... or maybe a way to simplify the m I found so I can use it in power additions and other things.



Or in general, is there a way/technique for such problems on how to find the smallest integer power?



Thank you for your time!










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    so I have this inequality:
    Given integers $m, kgeq1$.



    $$2^{m/k} > frac{3}{2}$$



    I'm interested in finding the smallest integer power $m$, as a function of $k$, that will make this inequality hold true.



    I've made a few calculations and came up with $m$ as:
    $$m(k) = [ 6k/10 + 0.5 ] - [k/70]$$



    I'm almost certain that this $m$, for any given $k$, will satisfy the inequality. I believe it is the smallest integer (I don't know how to prove it, a proof will be appreciated!), but I wonder if there's a way to find another m that's a lot simpler... or maybe a way to simplify the m I found so I can use it in power additions and other things.



    Or in general, is there a way/technique for such problems on how to find the smallest integer power?



    Thank you for your time!










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      so I have this inequality:
      Given integers $m, kgeq1$.



      $$2^{m/k} > frac{3}{2}$$



      I'm interested in finding the smallest integer power $m$, as a function of $k$, that will make this inequality hold true.



      I've made a few calculations and came up with $m$ as:
      $$m(k) = [ 6k/10 + 0.5 ] - [k/70]$$



      I'm almost certain that this $m$, for any given $k$, will satisfy the inequality. I believe it is the smallest integer (I don't know how to prove it, a proof will be appreciated!), but I wonder if there's a way to find another m that's a lot simpler... or maybe a way to simplify the m I found so I can use it in power additions and other things.



      Or in general, is there a way/technique for such problems on how to find the smallest integer power?



      Thank you for your time!










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      so I have this inequality:
      Given integers $m, kgeq1$.



      $$2^{m/k} > frac{3}{2}$$



      I'm interested in finding the smallest integer power $m$, as a function of $k$, that will make this inequality hold true.



      I've made a few calculations and came up with $m$ as:
      $$m(k) = [ 6k/10 + 0.5 ] - [k/70]$$



      I'm almost certain that this $m$, for any given $k$, will satisfy the inequality. I believe it is the smallest integer (I don't know how to prove it, a proof will be appreciated!), but I wonder if there's a way to find another m that's a lot simpler... or maybe a way to simplify the m I found so I can use it in power additions and other things.



      Or in general, is there a way/technique for such problems on how to find the smallest integer power?



      Thank you for your time!







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          Given a positive integer $k$ you want to find the least positive integer $m$ such that $2^{m/k}>frac{3}{2}$, or equivalently
          $$frac{m}{k}>frac{log(frac{3}{2})}{log2}=frac{log3-log2}{log2}=frac{log3}{log2}-1,$$
          or equivalently $m>kcdotleft(frac{log3}{log2}-1right)$. The latter is a constant; an online calculator tells me that
          $$frac{log3}{log2}-1approx0.5849625,$$
          so $m=lceil0.5849625ldotstimes krceil$.






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            Thank you for your quick answer! So m should be [k*0.5849625 + 0.5] correct?
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          We have that since $log$ function is strictly increasing



          $$2^{m/k} > 3/2 iff log (2^{m/k}) > log (3/2)$$






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            Given a positive integer $k$ you want to find the least positive integer $m$ such that $2^{m/k}>frac{3}{2}$, or equivalently
            $$frac{m}{k}>frac{log(frac{3}{2})}{log2}=frac{log3-log2}{log2}=frac{log3}{log2}-1,$$
            or equivalently $m>kcdotleft(frac{log3}{log2}-1right)$. The latter is a constant; an online calculator tells me that
            $$frac{log3}{log2}-1approx0.5849625,$$
            so $m=lceil0.5849625ldotstimes krceil$.






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              Thank you for your quick answer! So m should be [k*0.5849625 + 0.5] correct?
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            $begingroup$

            Given a positive integer $k$ you want to find the least positive integer $m$ such that $2^{m/k}>frac{3}{2}$, or equivalently
            $$frac{m}{k}>frac{log(frac{3}{2})}{log2}=frac{log3-log2}{log2}=frac{log3}{log2}-1,$$
            or equivalently $m>kcdotleft(frac{log3}{log2}-1right)$. The latter is a constant; an online calculator tells me that
            $$frac{log3}{log2}-1approx0.5849625,$$
            so $m=lceil0.5849625ldotstimes krceil$.






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            • $begingroup$
              Thank you for your quick answer! So m should be [k*0.5849625 + 0.5] correct?
              $endgroup$
              – Buk Lau
              Dec 2 '18 at 22:12
















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            $begingroup$

            Given a positive integer $k$ you want to find the least positive integer $m$ such that $2^{m/k}>frac{3}{2}$, or equivalently
            $$frac{m}{k}>frac{log(frac{3}{2})}{log2}=frac{log3-log2}{log2}=frac{log3}{log2}-1,$$
            or equivalently $m>kcdotleft(frac{log3}{log2}-1right)$. The latter is a constant; an online calculator tells me that
            $$frac{log3}{log2}-1approx0.5849625,$$
            so $m=lceil0.5849625ldotstimes krceil$.






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            Given a positive integer $k$ you want to find the least positive integer $m$ such that $2^{m/k}>frac{3}{2}$, or equivalently
            $$frac{m}{k}>frac{log(frac{3}{2})}{log2}=frac{log3-log2}{log2}=frac{log3}{log2}-1,$$
            or equivalently $m>kcdotleft(frac{log3}{log2}-1right)$. The latter is a constant; an online calculator tells me that
            $$frac{log3}{log2}-1approx0.5849625,$$
            so $m=lceil0.5849625ldotstimes krceil$.







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            • $begingroup$
              Thank you for your quick answer! So m should be [k*0.5849625 + 0.5] correct?
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              – Buk Lau
              Dec 2 '18 at 22:12




















            • $begingroup$
              Thank you for your quick answer! So m should be [k*0.5849625 + 0.5] correct?
              $endgroup$
              – Buk Lau
              Dec 2 '18 at 22:12


















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            Thank you for your quick answer! So m should be [k*0.5849625 + 0.5] correct?
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            – Buk Lau
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            Thank you for your quick answer! So m should be [k*0.5849625 + 0.5] correct?
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            – Buk Lau
            Dec 2 '18 at 22:12













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            HINT



            We have that since $log$ function is strictly increasing



            $$2^{m/k} > 3/2 iff log (2^{m/k}) > log (3/2)$$






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              HINT



              We have that since $log$ function is strictly increasing



              $$2^{m/k} > 3/2 iff log (2^{m/k}) > log (3/2)$$






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                HINT



                We have that since $log$ function is strictly increasing



                $$2^{m/k} > 3/2 iff log (2^{m/k}) > log (3/2)$$






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                HINT



                We have that since $log$ function is strictly increasing



                $$2^{m/k} > 3/2 iff log (2^{m/k}) > log (3/2)$$







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