Does the series $sum_{n=1}^infty frac{(-1)^{n+1}}{3n+n(-1)^n}$ converge?
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I have to find out if the series $$sum_{n=1}^infty frac{(-1)^{n+1}}{3n+n(-1)^n}$$ converges. Root test and ratio test did not work out for me. I also tried the alternating series test, but I can not use it because of the $${(-1)^{n+1}}$$ in the denominator.
Also, I have to find the limit of the series if it does converge.
sequences-and-series limits convergence divergent-series
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I have to find out if the series $$sum_{n=1}^infty frac{(-1)^{n+1}}{3n+n(-1)^n}$$ converges. Root test and ratio test did not work out for me. I also tried the alternating series test, but I can not use it because of the $${(-1)^{n+1}}$$ in the denominator.
Also, I have to find the limit of the series if it does converge.
sequences-and-series limits convergence divergent-series
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I have to find out if the series $$sum_{n=1}^infty frac{(-1)^{n+1}}{3n+n(-1)^n}$$ converges. Root test and ratio test did not work out for me. I also tried the alternating series test, but I can not use it because of the $${(-1)^{n+1}}$$ in the denominator.
Also, I have to find the limit of the series if it does converge.
sequences-and-series limits convergence divergent-series
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I have to find out if the series $$sum_{n=1}^infty frac{(-1)^{n+1}}{3n+n(-1)^n}$$ converges. Root test and ratio test did not work out for me. I also tried the alternating series test, but I can not use it because of the $${(-1)^{n+1}}$$ in the denominator.
Also, I have to find the limit of the series if it does converge.
sequences-and-series limits convergence divergent-series
sequences-and-series limits convergence divergent-series
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By observation, the series diverges. In order to prove it diverges, it is sufficient to prove it by proving the grouped series diverges.
$$sum_{n=1}^infty frac{(-1)^{n+1}}{3n+n(-1)^n}text{ diverges if $sum_{n=1}^infty frac{1}{3(2n-1)-(2n-1)}-frac{1}{3cdot 2n+2n}$diverges.}\
$$But we have$$sum_{n=1}^infty frac{1}{3(2n-1)-(2n-1)}-frac{1}{3cdot 2n+2n}\
=sum_{n=1}^infty frac{2 n+1}{8 n (2 n-1)}=+infty$$
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Thank yo for your helpful answer. However, I have trouble understanding if I am allowed to group the terms, because in my opinion this way, I rearrange the summands and there is a theorem that says: If ∑∞n=1an is an absolutely convergent series to the sum s, then any rearrangement of the terms of this series will also converge to the sum s. If ∑∞n=1an is a conditionally convergent series to the sum s, then the terms of this series can be rearranged to converge to any s∈R or to diverge to ±∞. So how can I be sure I didn't make it divergent by rearranging it?
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– Niko Bellic
Dec 8 '18 at 9:37
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@Niko No, grouping is not like rearranging. It is allowed to group terms in convergent series. Try to prove the series diverge By using contraction.
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– Kemono Chen
Dec 8 '18 at 9:41
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Okay, I didn't know that. Thanks. But you say I am allowed to group terms in convergent series. But at the beginning, I don't know whether this one is convergent... So am I allowed anyway to group terms?
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– Niko Bellic
Dec 8 '18 at 9:47
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@Niko Assume it is convergent, the grouped series is convergent. But the grouped one is actually divergent. Hence the original one is not convergent.
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– Kemono Chen
Dec 8 '18 at 9:55
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Sorry, the contraction in above is actually conflict. I'm not so good at English :(
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– Kemono Chen
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It diverges because $$sum_{n=1}^{infty}frac{-1}{nleft(1+3left(-1right)^{n}right)}=sum_{n=1}^{infty}left(frac{1}{2left(2n-1right)}-frac{1}{8n}right)=sum_{n=1}^{infty}frac{2n+1}{8nleft(2n-1right)}$$ obtain $O(frac{1}{n})$ terms.
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I had the same idea!
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– gimusi
Dec 8 '18 at 9:10
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@gimusi You did; I hadn't noticed. I made the tracking of powers of $-1$ neater, but that's about it.
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– J.G.
Dec 8 '18 at 9:16
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It seems that I worked by odd and even indices but you worked directly on the expression! That's fine. Bye
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– gimusi
Dec 8 '18 at 9:18
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HINT
We have that, separating the sum in odd and even indices
$$sum_{n=1}^inftyfrac{(-1)^{n+1}}{3n+n(-1)^n}=sum_{k=1}^infty frac{1}{3(2k-1)-2k+1}-sum_{k=1}^infty frac{1}{6k+2k}=$$
$$=sum_{k=1}^infty frac{1}{4k-2}-sum_{k=1}^infty frac{1}{8k}=sum_{k=1}^infty frac{2k+1}{8k(2k-1)}$$
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By observation, the series diverges. In order to prove it diverges, it is sufficient to prove it by proving the grouped series diverges.
$$sum_{n=1}^infty frac{(-1)^{n+1}}{3n+n(-1)^n}text{ diverges if $sum_{n=1}^infty frac{1}{3(2n-1)-(2n-1)}-frac{1}{3cdot 2n+2n}$diverges.}\
$$But we have$$sum_{n=1}^infty frac{1}{3(2n-1)-(2n-1)}-frac{1}{3cdot 2n+2n}\
=sum_{n=1}^infty frac{2 n+1}{8 n (2 n-1)}=+infty$$
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Thank yo for your helpful answer. However, I have trouble understanding if I am allowed to group the terms, because in my opinion this way, I rearrange the summands and there is a theorem that says: If ∑∞n=1an is an absolutely convergent series to the sum s, then any rearrangement of the terms of this series will also converge to the sum s. If ∑∞n=1an is a conditionally convergent series to the sum s, then the terms of this series can be rearranged to converge to any s∈R or to diverge to ±∞. So how can I be sure I didn't make it divergent by rearranging it?
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– Niko Bellic
Dec 8 '18 at 9:37
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@Niko No, grouping is not like rearranging. It is allowed to group terms in convergent series. Try to prove the series diverge By using contraction.
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– Kemono Chen
Dec 8 '18 at 9:41
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Okay, I didn't know that. Thanks. But you say I am allowed to group terms in convergent series. But at the beginning, I don't know whether this one is convergent... So am I allowed anyway to group terms?
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– Niko Bellic
Dec 8 '18 at 9:47
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@Niko Assume it is convergent, the grouped series is convergent. But the grouped one is actually divergent. Hence the original one is not convergent.
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– Kemono Chen
Dec 8 '18 at 9:55
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Sorry, the contraction in above is actually conflict. I'm not so good at English :(
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– Kemono Chen
Dec 8 '18 at 10:00
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show 2 more comments
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By observation, the series diverges. In order to prove it diverges, it is sufficient to prove it by proving the grouped series diverges.
$$sum_{n=1}^infty frac{(-1)^{n+1}}{3n+n(-1)^n}text{ diverges if $sum_{n=1}^infty frac{1}{3(2n-1)-(2n-1)}-frac{1}{3cdot 2n+2n}$diverges.}\
$$But we have$$sum_{n=1}^infty frac{1}{3(2n-1)-(2n-1)}-frac{1}{3cdot 2n+2n}\
=sum_{n=1}^infty frac{2 n+1}{8 n (2 n-1)}=+infty$$
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Thank yo for your helpful answer. However, I have trouble understanding if I am allowed to group the terms, because in my opinion this way, I rearrange the summands and there is a theorem that says: If ∑∞n=1an is an absolutely convergent series to the sum s, then any rearrangement of the terms of this series will also converge to the sum s. If ∑∞n=1an is a conditionally convergent series to the sum s, then the terms of this series can be rearranged to converge to any s∈R or to diverge to ±∞. So how can I be sure I didn't make it divergent by rearranging it?
$endgroup$
– Niko Bellic
Dec 8 '18 at 9:37
$begingroup$
@Niko No, grouping is not like rearranging. It is allowed to group terms in convergent series. Try to prove the series diverge By using contraction.
$endgroup$
– Kemono Chen
Dec 8 '18 at 9:41
$begingroup$
Okay, I didn't know that. Thanks. But you say I am allowed to group terms in convergent series. But at the beginning, I don't know whether this one is convergent... So am I allowed anyway to group terms?
$endgroup$
– Niko Bellic
Dec 8 '18 at 9:47
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@Niko Assume it is convergent, the grouped series is convergent. But the grouped one is actually divergent. Hence the original one is not convergent.
$endgroup$
– Kemono Chen
Dec 8 '18 at 9:55
$begingroup$
Sorry, the contraction in above is actually conflict. I'm not so good at English :(
$endgroup$
– Kemono Chen
Dec 8 '18 at 10:00
|
show 2 more comments
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By observation, the series diverges. In order to prove it diverges, it is sufficient to prove it by proving the grouped series diverges.
$$sum_{n=1}^infty frac{(-1)^{n+1}}{3n+n(-1)^n}text{ diverges if $sum_{n=1}^infty frac{1}{3(2n-1)-(2n-1)}-frac{1}{3cdot 2n+2n}$diverges.}\
$$But we have$$sum_{n=1}^infty frac{1}{3(2n-1)-(2n-1)}-frac{1}{3cdot 2n+2n}\
=sum_{n=1}^infty frac{2 n+1}{8 n (2 n-1)}=+infty$$
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By observation, the series diverges. In order to prove it diverges, it is sufficient to prove it by proving the grouped series diverges.
$$sum_{n=1}^infty frac{(-1)^{n+1}}{3n+n(-1)^n}text{ diverges if $sum_{n=1}^infty frac{1}{3(2n-1)-(2n-1)}-frac{1}{3cdot 2n+2n}$diverges.}\
$$But we have$$sum_{n=1}^infty frac{1}{3(2n-1)-(2n-1)}-frac{1}{3cdot 2n+2n}\
=sum_{n=1}^infty frac{2 n+1}{8 n (2 n-1)}=+infty$$
edited Dec 8 '18 at 9:10
answered Dec 8 '18 at 8:59
Kemono ChenKemono Chen
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Thank yo for your helpful answer. However, I have trouble understanding if I am allowed to group the terms, because in my opinion this way, I rearrange the summands and there is a theorem that says: If ∑∞n=1an is an absolutely convergent series to the sum s, then any rearrangement of the terms of this series will also converge to the sum s. If ∑∞n=1an is a conditionally convergent series to the sum s, then the terms of this series can be rearranged to converge to any s∈R or to diverge to ±∞. So how can I be sure I didn't make it divergent by rearranging it?
$endgroup$
– Niko Bellic
Dec 8 '18 at 9:37
$begingroup$
@Niko No, grouping is not like rearranging. It is allowed to group terms in convergent series. Try to prove the series diverge By using contraction.
$endgroup$
– Kemono Chen
Dec 8 '18 at 9:41
$begingroup$
Okay, I didn't know that. Thanks. But you say I am allowed to group terms in convergent series. But at the beginning, I don't know whether this one is convergent... So am I allowed anyway to group terms?
$endgroup$
– Niko Bellic
Dec 8 '18 at 9:47
$begingroup$
@Niko Assume it is convergent, the grouped series is convergent. But the grouped one is actually divergent. Hence the original one is not convergent.
$endgroup$
– Kemono Chen
Dec 8 '18 at 9:55
$begingroup$
Sorry, the contraction in above is actually conflict. I'm not so good at English :(
$endgroup$
– Kemono Chen
Dec 8 '18 at 10:00
|
show 2 more comments
$begingroup$
Thank yo for your helpful answer. However, I have trouble understanding if I am allowed to group the terms, because in my opinion this way, I rearrange the summands and there is a theorem that says: If ∑∞n=1an is an absolutely convergent series to the sum s, then any rearrangement of the terms of this series will also converge to the sum s. If ∑∞n=1an is a conditionally convergent series to the sum s, then the terms of this series can be rearranged to converge to any s∈R or to diverge to ±∞. So how can I be sure I didn't make it divergent by rearranging it?
$endgroup$
– Niko Bellic
Dec 8 '18 at 9:37
$begingroup$
@Niko No, grouping is not like rearranging. It is allowed to group terms in convergent series. Try to prove the series diverge By using contraction.
$endgroup$
– Kemono Chen
Dec 8 '18 at 9:41
$begingroup$
Okay, I didn't know that. Thanks. But you say I am allowed to group terms in convergent series. But at the beginning, I don't know whether this one is convergent... So am I allowed anyway to group terms?
$endgroup$
– Niko Bellic
Dec 8 '18 at 9:47
$begingroup$
@Niko Assume it is convergent, the grouped series is convergent. But the grouped one is actually divergent. Hence the original one is not convergent.
$endgroup$
– Kemono Chen
Dec 8 '18 at 9:55
$begingroup$
Sorry, the contraction in above is actually conflict. I'm not so good at English :(
$endgroup$
– Kemono Chen
Dec 8 '18 at 10:00
$begingroup$
Thank yo for your helpful answer. However, I have trouble understanding if I am allowed to group the terms, because in my opinion this way, I rearrange the summands and there is a theorem that says: If ∑∞n=1an is an absolutely convergent series to the sum s, then any rearrangement of the terms of this series will also converge to the sum s. If ∑∞n=1an is a conditionally convergent series to the sum s, then the terms of this series can be rearranged to converge to any s∈R or to diverge to ±∞. So how can I be sure I didn't make it divergent by rearranging it?
$endgroup$
– Niko Bellic
Dec 8 '18 at 9:37
$begingroup$
Thank yo for your helpful answer. However, I have trouble understanding if I am allowed to group the terms, because in my opinion this way, I rearrange the summands and there is a theorem that says: If ∑∞n=1an is an absolutely convergent series to the sum s, then any rearrangement of the terms of this series will also converge to the sum s. If ∑∞n=1an is a conditionally convergent series to the sum s, then the terms of this series can be rearranged to converge to any s∈R or to diverge to ±∞. So how can I be sure I didn't make it divergent by rearranging it?
$endgroup$
– Niko Bellic
Dec 8 '18 at 9:37
$begingroup$
@Niko No, grouping is not like rearranging. It is allowed to group terms in convergent series. Try to prove the series diverge By using contraction.
$endgroup$
– Kemono Chen
Dec 8 '18 at 9:41
$begingroup$
@Niko No, grouping is not like rearranging. It is allowed to group terms in convergent series. Try to prove the series diverge By using contraction.
$endgroup$
– Kemono Chen
Dec 8 '18 at 9:41
$begingroup$
Okay, I didn't know that. Thanks. But you say I am allowed to group terms in convergent series. But at the beginning, I don't know whether this one is convergent... So am I allowed anyway to group terms?
$endgroup$
– Niko Bellic
Dec 8 '18 at 9:47
$begingroup$
Okay, I didn't know that. Thanks. But you say I am allowed to group terms in convergent series. But at the beginning, I don't know whether this one is convergent... So am I allowed anyway to group terms?
$endgroup$
– Niko Bellic
Dec 8 '18 at 9:47
$begingroup$
@Niko Assume it is convergent, the grouped series is convergent. But the grouped one is actually divergent. Hence the original one is not convergent.
$endgroup$
– Kemono Chen
Dec 8 '18 at 9:55
$begingroup$
@Niko Assume it is convergent, the grouped series is convergent. But the grouped one is actually divergent. Hence the original one is not convergent.
$endgroup$
– Kemono Chen
Dec 8 '18 at 9:55
$begingroup$
Sorry, the contraction in above is actually conflict. I'm not so good at English :(
$endgroup$
– Kemono Chen
Dec 8 '18 at 10:00
$begingroup$
Sorry, the contraction in above is actually conflict. I'm not so good at English :(
$endgroup$
– Kemono Chen
Dec 8 '18 at 10:00
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show 2 more comments
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It diverges because $$sum_{n=1}^{infty}frac{-1}{nleft(1+3left(-1right)^{n}right)}=sum_{n=1}^{infty}left(frac{1}{2left(2n-1right)}-frac{1}{8n}right)=sum_{n=1}^{infty}frac{2n+1}{8nleft(2n-1right)}$$ obtain $O(frac{1}{n})$ terms.
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I had the same idea!
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– gimusi
Dec 8 '18 at 9:10
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@gimusi You did; I hadn't noticed. I made the tracking of powers of $-1$ neater, but that's about it.
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– J.G.
Dec 8 '18 at 9:16
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It seems that I worked by odd and even indices but you worked directly on the expression! That's fine. Bye
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– gimusi
Dec 8 '18 at 9:18
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It diverges because $$sum_{n=1}^{infty}frac{-1}{nleft(1+3left(-1right)^{n}right)}=sum_{n=1}^{infty}left(frac{1}{2left(2n-1right)}-frac{1}{8n}right)=sum_{n=1}^{infty}frac{2n+1}{8nleft(2n-1right)}$$ obtain $O(frac{1}{n})$ terms.
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I had the same idea!
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– gimusi
Dec 8 '18 at 9:10
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@gimusi You did; I hadn't noticed. I made the tracking of powers of $-1$ neater, but that's about it.
$endgroup$
– J.G.
Dec 8 '18 at 9:16
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It seems that I worked by odd and even indices but you worked directly on the expression! That's fine. Bye
$endgroup$
– gimusi
Dec 8 '18 at 9:18
add a comment |
$begingroup$
It diverges because $$sum_{n=1}^{infty}frac{-1}{nleft(1+3left(-1right)^{n}right)}=sum_{n=1}^{infty}left(frac{1}{2left(2n-1right)}-frac{1}{8n}right)=sum_{n=1}^{infty}frac{2n+1}{8nleft(2n-1right)}$$ obtain $O(frac{1}{n})$ terms.
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It diverges because $$sum_{n=1}^{infty}frac{-1}{nleft(1+3left(-1right)^{n}right)}=sum_{n=1}^{infty}left(frac{1}{2left(2n-1right)}-frac{1}{8n}right)=sum_{n=1}^{infty}frac{2n+1}{8nleft(2n-1right)}$$ obtain $O(frac{1}{n})$ terms.
answered Dec 8 '18 at 9:07
J.G.J.G.
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26.3k22541
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I had the same idea!
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– gimusi
Dec 8 '18 at 9:10
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@gimusi You did; I hadn't noticed. I made the tracking of powers of $-1$ neater, but that's about it.
$endgroup$
– J.G.
Dec 8 '18 at 9:16
$begingroup$
It seems that I worked by odd and even indices but you worked directly on the expression! That's fine. Bye
$endgroup$
– gimusi
Dec 8 '18 at 9:18
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I had the same idea!
$endgroup$
– gimusi
Dec 8 '18 at 9:10
$begingroup$
@gimusi You did; I hadn't noticed. I made the tracking of powers of $-1$ neater, but that's about it.
$endgroup$
– J.G.
Dec 8 '18 at 9:16
$begingroup$
It seems that I worked by odd and even indices but you worked directly on the expression! That's fine. Bye
$endgroup$
– gimusi
Dec 8 '18 at 9:18
$begingroup$
I had the same idea!
$endgroup$
– gimusi
Dec 8 '18 at 9:10
$begingroup$
I had the same idea!
$endgroup$
– gimusi
Dec 8 '18 at 9:10
$begingroup$
@gimusi You did; I hadn't noticed. I made the tracking of powers of $-1$ neater, but that's about it.
$endgroup$
– J.G.
Dec 8 '18 at 9:16
$begingroup$
@gimusi You did; I hadn't noticed. I made the tracking of powers of $-1$ neater, but that's about it.
$endgroup$
– J.G.
Dec 8 '18 at 9:16
$begingroup$
It seems that I worked by odd and even indices but you worked directly on the expression! That's fine. Bye
$endgroup$
– gimusi
Dec 8 '18 at 9:18
$begingroup$
It seems that I worked by odd and even indices but you worked directly on the expression! That's fine. Bye
$endgroup$
– gimusi
Dec 8 '18 at 9:18
add a comment |
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HINT
We have that, separating the sum in odd and even indices
$$sum_{n=1}^inftyfrac{(-1)^{n+1}}{3n+n(-1)^n}=sum_{k=1}^infty frac{1}{3(2k-1)-2k+1}-sum_{k=1}^infty frac{1}{6k+2k}=$$
$$=sum_{k=1}^infty frac{1}{4k-2}-sum_{k=1}^infty frac{1}{8k}=sum_{k=1}^infty frac{2k+1}{8k(2k-1)}$$
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HINT
We have that, separating the sum in odd and even indices
$$sum_{n=1}^inftyfrac{(-1)^{n+1}}{3n+n(-1)^n}=sum_{k=1}^infty frac{1}{3(2k-1)-2k+1}-sum_{k=1}^infty frac{1}{6k+2k}=$$
$$=sum_{k=1}^infty frac{1}{4k-2}-sum_{k=1}^infty frac{1}{8k}=sum_{k=1}^infty frac{2k+1}{8k(2k-1)}$$
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$begingroup$
HINT
We have that, separating the sum in odd and even indices
$$sum_{n=1}^inftyfrac{(-1)^{n+1}}{3n+n(-1)^n}=sum_{k=1}^infty frac{1}{3(2k-1)-2k+1}-sum_{k=1}^infty frac{1}{6k+2k}=$$
$$=sum_{k=1}^infty frac{1}{4k-2}-sum_{k=1}^infty frac{1}{8k}=sum_{k=1}^infty frac{2k+1}{8k(2k-1)}$$
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HINT
We have that, separating the sum in odd and even indices
$$sum_{n=1}^inftyfrac{(-1)^{n+1}}{3n+n(-1)^n}=sum_{k=1}^infty frac{1}{3(2k-1)-2k+1}-sum_{k=1}^infty frac{1}{6k+2k}=$$
$$=sum_{k=1}^infty frac{1}{4k-2}-sum_{k=1}^infty frac{1}{8k}=sum_{k=1}^infty frac{2k+1}{8k(2k-1)}$$
edited Dec 8 '18 at 9:07
answered Dec 8 '18 at 9:02
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