Finding where a series converges pointwise and uniformly












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Consider



$$sum_{n=0}^{infty} x(1 - x)^{2n} $$



Where does the sum converge pointwise and uniformly?



I think $[0, 2)$ pointwise and $(0, 2)$ uniformly because it becomes a geometric series. Also the function to which it converges to needs to be continuous










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Consider



$$sum_{n=0}^{infty} x(1 - x)^{2n} $$



Where does the sum converge pointwise and uniformly?



I think $[0, 2)$ pointwise and $(0, 2)$ uniformly because it becomes a geometric series. Also the function to which it converges to needs to be continuous










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Consider



$$sum_{n=0}^{infty} x(1 - x)^{2n} $$



Where does the sum converge pointwise and uniformly?



I think $[0, 2)$ pointwise and $(0, 2)$ uniformly because it becomes a geometric series. Also the function to which it converges to needs to be continuous










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Consider



$$sum_{n=0}^{infty} x(1 - x)^{2n} $$



Where does the sum converge pointwise and uniformly?



I think $[0, 2)$ pointwise and $(0, 2)$ uniformly because it becomes a geometric series. Also the function to which it converges to needs to be continuous







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You are correct about recognizing the geometric series converging pointwise on $[0,2)$.



For this series to converge uniformly on $(0,2)$ it is necessary that



$$tag{*}sup_{x in (0,2)}left|sum_{n=N}^infty x(1-x)^{2n}right| xrightarrow[N to infty]{} 0$$



However,



$$left|sum_{n=N}^infty x(1-x)^{2n}right| = x(1-x)^{2N}sum_{n=0}^infty (1-x)^{2n} = frac{x(1-x)^{2N}}{1 - (1-x)^2} = frac{(1-x)^{2N}}{2 - x},$$



and



$$sup_{x in (0,2)}frac{(1-x)^{2N}}{2 - x} = +infty$$



So the convergence is not uniform on $(0,2)$. Noting that a problem arises due to behavior near $x = 2$ (and $x=0$), try on your own to determine and justify where convergence is uniform.






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    So it's uniform only at $0$?
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    @joseph: No -- uniform convergence is relevant for a set of values. So we say the series $sum{n=1}^infty f_n(x)$ converges uniformly to $S(x)$ for $x in (a,b)$ if it converges pointwise and $|sum_{n=1}^N f_n(x) - S(x)| < epsilon$ when $N > N_0$ for ALL $x in (a,b)$ where $N_0$ does NOT depend on $x$. I just showed your series is not UC on $(0,2)$ but what about $(0,b]$ where $b < 2$?
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You are correct about recognizing the geometric series converging pointwise on $[0,2)$.



For this series to converge uniformly on $(0,2)$ it is necessary that



$$tag{*}sup_{x in (0,2)}left|sum_{n=N}^infty x(1-x)^{2n}right| xrightarrow[N to infty]{} 0$$



However,



$$left|sum_{n=N}^infty x(1-x)^{2n}right| = x(1-x)^{2N}sum_{n=0}^infty (1-x)^{2n} = frac{x(1-x)^{2N}}{1 - (1-x)^2} = frac{(1-x)^{2N}}{2 - x},$$



and



$$sup_{x in (0,2)}frac{(1-x)^{2N}}{2 - x} = +infty$$



So the convergence is not uniform on $(0,2)$. Noting that a problem arises due to behavior near $x = 2$ (and $x=0$), try on your own to determine and justify where convergence is uniform.






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    So it's uniform only at $0$?
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    – joseph
    Dec 14 '18 at 23:56










  • $begingroup$
    @joseph: No -- uniform convergence is relevant for a set of values. So we say the series $sum{n=1}^infty f_n(x)$ converges uniformly to $S(x)$ for $x in (a,b)$ if it converges pointwise and $|sum_{n=1}^N f_n(x) - S(x)| < epsilon$ when $N > N_0$ for ALL $x in (a,b)$ where $N_0$ does NOT depend on $x$. I just showed your series is not UC on $(0,2)$ but what about $(0,b]$ where $b < 2$?
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You are correct about recognizing the geometric series converging pointwise on $[0,2)$.



For this series to converge uniformly on $(0,2)$ it is necessary that



$$tag{*}sup_{x in (0,2)}left|sum_{n=N}^infty x(1-x)^{2n}right| xrightarrow[N to infty]{} 0$$



However,



$$left|sum_{n=N}^infty x(1-x)^{2n}right| = x(1-x)^{2N}sum_{n=0}^infty (1-x)^{2n} = frac{x(1-x)^{2N}}{1 - (1-x)^2} = frac{(1-x)^{2N}}{2 - x},$$



and



$$sup_{x in (0,2)}frac{(1-x)^{2N}}{2 - x} = +infty$$



So the convergence is not uniform on $(0,2)$. Noting that a problem arises due to behavior near $x = 2$ (and $x=0$), try on your own to determine and justify where convergence is uniform.






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    So it's uniform only at $0$?
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    – joseph
    Dec 14 '18 at 23:56










  • $begingroup$
    @joseph: No -- uniform convergence is relevant for a set of values. So we say the series $sum{n=1}^infty f_n(x)$ converges uniformly to $S(x)$ for $x in (a,b)$ if it converges pointwise and $|sum_{n=1}^N f_n(x) - S(x)| < epsilon$ when $N > N_0$ for ALL $x in (a,b)$ where $N_0$ does NOT depend on $x$. I just showed your series is not UC on $(0,2)$ but what about $(0,b]$ where $b < 2$?
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    Dec 15 '18 at 0:10
















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You are correct about recognizing the geometric series converging pointwise on $[0,2)$.



For this series to converge uniformly on $(0,2)$ it is necessary that



$$tag{*}sup_{x in (0,2)}left|sum_{n=N}^infty x(1-x)^{2n}right| xrightarrow[N to infty]{} 0$$



However,



$$left|sum_{n=N}^infty x(1-x)^{2n}right| = x(1-x)^{2N}sum_{n=0}^infty (1-x)^{2n} = frac{x(1-x)^{2N}}{1 - (1-x)^2} = frac{(1-x)^{2N}}{2 - x},$$



and



$$sup_{x in (0,2)}frac{(1-x)^{2N}}{2 - x} = +infty$$



So the convergence is not uniform on $(0,2)$. Noting that a problem arises due to behavior near $x = 2$ (and $x=0$), try on your own to determine and justify where convergence is uniform.






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You are correct about recognizing the geometric series converging pointwise on $[0,2)$.



For this series to converge uniformly on $(0,2)$ it is necessary that



$$tag{*}sup_{x in (0,2)}left|sum_{n=N}^infty x(1-x)^{2n}right| xrightarrow[N to infty]{} 0$$



However,



$$left|sum_{n=N}^infty x(1-x)^{2n}right| = x(1-x)^{2N}sum_{n=0}^infty (1-x)^{2n} = frac{x(1-x)^{2N}}{1 - (1-x)^2} = frac{(1-x)^{2N}}{2 - x},$$



and



$$sup_{x in (0,2)}frac{(1-x)^{2N}}{2 - x} = +infty$$



So the convergence is not uniform on $(0,2)$. Noting that a problem arises due to behavior near $x = 2$ (and $x=0$), try on your own to determine and justify where convergence is uniform.







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    So it's uniform only at $0$?
    $endgroup$
    – joseph
    Dec 14 '18 at 23:56










  • $begingroup$
    @joseph: No -- uniform convergence is relevant for a set of values. So we say the series $sum{n=1}^infty f_n(x)$ converges uniformly to $S(x)$ for $x in (a,b)$ if it converges pointwise and $|sum_{n=1}^N f_n(x) - S(x)| < epsilon$ when $N > N_0$ for ALL $x in (a,b)$ where $N_0$ does NOT depend on $x$. I just showed your series is not UC on $(0,2)$ but what about $(0,b]$ where $b < 2$?
    $endgroup$
    – RRL
    Dec 15 '18 at 0:10




















  • $begingroup$
    So it's uniform only at $0$?
    $endgroup$
    – joseph
    Dec 14 '18 at 23:56










  • $begingroup$
    @joseph: No -- uniform convergence is relevant for a set of values. So we say the series $sum{n=1}^infty f_n(x)$ converges uniformly to $S(x)$ for $x in (a,b)$ if it converges pointwise and $|sum_{n=1}^N f_n(x) - S(x)| < epsilon$ when $N > N_0$ for ALL $x in (a,b)$ where $N_0$ does NOT depend on $x$. I just showed your series is not UC on $(0,2)$ but what about $(0,b]$ where $b < 2$?
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    – RRL
    Dec 15 '18 at 0:10


















$begingroup$
So it's uniform only at $0$?
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– joseph
Dec 14 '18 at 23:56




$begingroup$
So it's uniform only at $0$?
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– joseph
Dec 14 '18 at 23:56












$begingroup$
@joseph: No -- uniform convergence is relevant for a set of values. So we say the series $sum{n=1}^infty f_n(x)$ converges uniformly to $S(x)$ for $x in (a,b)$ if it converges pointwise and $|sum_{n=1}^N f_n(x) - S(x)| < epsilon$ when $N > N_0$ for ALL $x in (a,b)$ where $N_0$ does NOT depend on $x$. I just showed your series is not UC on $(0,2)$ but what about $(0,b]$ where $b < 2$?
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– RRL
Dec 15 '18 at 0:10






$begingroup$
@joseph: No -- uniform convergence is relevant for a set of values. So we say the series $sum{n=1}^infty f_n(x)$ converges uniformly to $S(x)$ for $x in (a,b)$ if it converges pointwise and $|sum_{n=1}^N f_n(x) - S(x)| < epsilon$ when $N > N_0$ for ALL $x in (a,b)$ where $N_0$ does NOT depend on $x$. I just showed your series is not UC on $(0,2)$ but what about $(0,b]$ where $b < 2$?
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