rsync: exclude not working when using a variable












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Could someone please explain to me this behaviour I noticed lately when I was sync'ing a directory to another server via rsync? I wanted to exclude the sub-directory "done" in this case.



When I put the options to use with rsync into a variable, that directory was not excluded. But it was when I put the options directly behind the rsync call.
Changes to "-av" made a difference, but the exclude didn't work.



rsync 3.0.9-18, on bash, CentOS 7.4



Not excluded:



$ RSYNC_OPTIONS='-av --exclude "done"'
$ touch done/test.ignore && rsync ${RSYNC_OPTIONS} ${SOURCEDIR} ${TARGET}
sending incremental file list
done/test.ignore

sent 132 bytes received 32 bytes 109.33 bytes/sec
total size is 0 speedup is 0.00


Excluded:



$ touch done/test.ignore && rsync -av --exclude "done" ${SOURCEDIR} ${TARGET}
sending incremental file list

sent 41 bytes received 12 bytes 106.00 bytes/sec
total size is 0 speedup is 0.00









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    See this stackoverflow question: Why do bash parameter expansions cause an rsync command to operate differently?

    – Gordon Davisson
    Jan 23 at 18:18
















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Could someone please explain to me this behaviour I noticed lately when I was sync'ing a directory to another server via rsync? I wanted to exclude the sub-directory "done" in this case.



When I put the options to use with rsync into a variable, that directory was not excluded. But it was when I put the options directly behind the rsync call.
Changes to "-av" made a difference, but the exclude didn't work.



rsync 3.0.9-18, on bash, CentOS 7.4



Not excluded:



$ RSYNC_OPTIONS='-av --exclude "done"'
$ touch done/test.ignore && rsync ${RSYNC_OPTIONS} ${SOURCEDIR} ${TARGET}
sending incremental file list
done/test.ignore

sent 132 bytes received 32 bytes 109.33 bytes/sec
total size is 0 speedup is 0.00


Excluded:



$ touch done/test.ignore && rsync -av --exclude "done" ${SOURCEDIR} ${TARGET}
sending incremental file list

sent 41 bytes received 12 bytes 106.00 bytes/sec
total size is 0 speedup is 0.00









share|improve this question


















  • 1





    See this stackoverflow question: Why do bash parameter expansions cause an rsync command to operate differently?

    – Gordon Davisson
    Jan 23 at 18:18














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Could someone please explain to me this behaviour I noticed lately when I was sync'ing a directory to another server via rsync? I wanted to exclude the sub-directory "done" in this case.



When I put the options to use with rsync into a variable, that directory was not excluded. But it was when I put the options directly behind the rsync call.
Changes to "-av" made a difference, but the exclude didn't work.



rsync 3.0.9-18, on bash, CentOS 7.4



Not excluded:



$ RSYNC_OPTIONS='-av --exclude "done"'
$ touch done/test.ignore && rsync ${RSYNC_OPTIONS} ${SOURCEDIR} ${TARGET}
sending incremental file list
done/test.ignore

sent 132 bytes received 32 bytes 109.33 bytes/sec
total size is 0 speedup is 0.00


Excluded:



$ touch done/test.ignore && rsync -av --exclude "done" ${SOURCEDIR} ${TARGET}
sending incremental file list

sent 41 bytes received 12 bytes 106.00 bytes/sec
total size is 0 speedup is 0.00









share|improve this question














Could someone please explain to me this behaviour I noticed lately when I was sync'ing a directory to another server via rsync? I wanted to exclude the sub-directory "done" in this case.



When I put the options to use with rsync into a variable, that directory was not excluded. But it was when I put the options directly behind the rsync call.
Changes to "-av" made a difference, but the exclude didn't work.



rsync 3.0.9-18, on bash, CentOS 7.4



Not excluded:



$ RSYNC_OPTIONS='-av --exclude "done"'
$ touch done/test.ignore && rsync ${RSYNC_OPTIONS} ${SOURCEDIR} ${TARGET}
sending incremental file list
done/test.ignore

sent 132 bytes received 32 bytes 109.33 bytes/sec
total size is 0 speedup is 0.00


Excluded:



$ touch done/test.ignore && rsync -av --exclude "done" ${SOURCEDIR} ${TARGET}
sending incremental file list

sent 41 bytes received 12 bytes 106.00 bytes/sec
total size is 0 speedup is 0.00






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  • 1





    See this stackoverflow question: Why do bash parameter expansions cause an rsync command to operate differently?

    – Gordon Davisson
    Jan 23 at 18:18














  • 1





    See this stackoverflow question: Why do bash parameter expansions cause an rsync command to operate differently?

    – Gordon Davisson
    Jan 23 at 18:18








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1





See this stackoverflow question: Why do bash parameter expansions cause an rsync command to operate differently?

– Gordon Davisson
Jan 23 at 18:18





See this stackoverflow question: Why do bash parameter expansions cause an rsync command to operate differently?

– Gordon Davisson
Jan 23 at 18:18










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I have replicated the problem and used set -x to see what the both commands really look like. It turned out this command



rsync ${RSYNC_OPTIONS} ${SOURCEDIR} ${TARGET}


is in fact equivalent to this



rsync -av --exclude '"done"' ${SOURCEDIR} ${TARGET}


Note the quotes in quotes. Your pattern is not done; it's "done", as if the directory you want to exclude had double quotes in its actual name.





To almost fix this you can declare the variable without these troublesome quotes:



RSYNC_OPTIONS='-av --exclude done'                           # poor fix, don't
rsync ${RSYNC_OPTIONS} "${SOURCEDIR}" "${TARGET}"


But this will backfire if the pattern contains spaces etc. Another approach may be with eval:



RSYNC_OPTIONS='-av --exclude "name  with  double  spaces"'
eval rsync "${RSYNC_OPTIONS}" '"${SOURCEDIR}" "${TARGET}"' # not recommended


eval will parse the line for the second time. It's very hard to use it right and safely. I double quoted ${RSYNC_OPTIONS} so "name with double spaces" doesn't lose double spaces. I single quoted "${SOURCEDIR}" "${TARGET}", so these variables are not expanded right away (otherwise their content would undergo expansion). This is tricky!



Besides, what about name "with' quotes? To get this exact string as an option-argument to rsync --exclude you need some obscure quoting and escaping in RSYNC_OPTIONS declaration. There are more reasons to avoid eval.





The real solution is to use an array in Bash. Note arrays are not portable.



RSYNC_OPTIONS=(-av --exclude 'name with  spaces and $u(h')
rsync "${RSYNC_OPTIONS[@]}" "${SOURCEDIR}" "${TARGET}"


I understand why you didn't quote ${RSYNC_OPTIONS} in your original approach. You should have quoted ${SOURCEDIR} and (separately) ${TARGET} though. The above command quotes each variable properly.



Or maybe ${SOURCEDIR} was meant to specify multiple sources? This would be the reason not to quote it, but then it could bring similar issues as ${RSYNC_OPTIONS}. In this case you should definitely use an array variable here as well.



Also consider variable names in lower case.






share|improve this answer


























  • Thanks very much for this thorough explanation! Haven't put the other variables in quotes as those really are constants (I exactly know the one value they contain). Will have a look at the "lower case" link.

    – Larsen
    Jan 23 at 17:10



















-1














What about placing your quotes like this ?



RSYNC_OPTIONS='-av --exclude '"done"''




I only tested it on a simplified command:



SEP='-F ";"'
echo "1;2;3" | awk ${SEP} '{print $2}'


(not working)



SEP='-F '";"''
echo "1;2;3" | awk ${SEP} '{print $2}'


(working)





Edit:



With @Kamil technique, array works well too:



SEP=(-F ";")
echo "1;2;3" | awk ${SEP[@]} '{print $2}'





share|improve this answer





















  • 2





    A red herring. SEP='-F '";"'' defines the same variable value as SEP='-F ;' (compare declare -p SEP in both cases), therefore your working example is just my "poor fix" in disguise. I downvoted because this answer brings nothing new, except this weird quoting technique that only obfuscates the problem.

    – Kamil Maciorowski
    Jan 23 at 15:07











  • @KamilMaciorowski I'm a bash newbie, I just like to think there's a workaround with using only strings, but obviously I'm wrong.

    – Yoric
    Jan 23 at 15:27











  • Well, in fact there is a workaround. It involves eval and it's rather awful. My answer is now updated to cover this. While I think your answer here is not useful, there are two other answers of yours I upvoted today. In my opinion there's a mishap here, but in general you're doing well.

    – Kamil Maciorowski
    Jan 23 at 16:25











  • @KamilMaciorowski Thanks for adding to your already clear explanation, and for your concern. We do learn a lot from experienced techies like you that are kind enough to take the time to even put the appropriate links to read further. I am ok to be wrong as long as I learn more :) I am just amazed with the Linux World and a bit frustrated not to know 5% of it.

    – Yoric
    Jan 23 at 16:42













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I have replicated the problem and used set -x to see what the both commands really look like. It turned out this command



rsync ${RSYNC_OPTIONS} ${SOURCEDIR} ${TARGET}


is in fact equivalent to this



rsync -av --exclude '"done"' ${SOURCEDIR} ${TARGET}


Note the quotes in quotes. Your pattern is not done; it's "done", as if the directory you want to exclude had double quotes in its actual name.





To almost fix this you can declare the variable without these troublesome quotes:



RSYNC_OPTIONS='-av --exclude done'                           # poor fix, don't
rsync ${RSYNC_OPTIONS} "${SOURCEDIR}" "${TARGET}"


But this will backfire if the pattern contains spaces etc. Another approach may be with eval:



RSYNC_OPTIONS='-av --exclude "name  with  double  spaces"'
eval rsync "${RSYNC_OPTIONS}" '"${SOURCEDIR}" "${TARGET}"' # not recommended


eval will parse the line for the second time. It's very hard to use it right and safely. I double quoted ${RSYNC_OPTIONS} so "name with double spaces" doesn't lose double spaces. I single quoted "${SOURCEDIR}" "${TARGET}", so these variables are not expanded right away (otherwise their content would undergo expansion). This is tricky!



Besides, what about name "with' quotes? To get this exact string as an option-argument to rsync --exclude you need some obscure quoting and escaping in RSYNC_OPTIONS declaration. There are more reasons to avoid eval.





The real solution is to use an array in Bash. Note arrays are not portable.



RSYNC_OPTIONS=(-av --exclude 'name with  spaces and $u(h')
rsync "${RSYNC_OPTIONS[@]}" "${SOURCEDIR}" "${TARGET}"


I understand why you didn't quote ${RSYNC_OPTIONS} in your original approach. You should have quoted ${SOURCEDIR} and (separately) ${TARGET} though. The above command quotes each variable properly.



Or maybe ${SOURCEDIR} was meant to specify multiple sources? This would be the reason not to quote it, but then it could bring similar issues as ${RSYNC_OPTIONS}. In this case you should definitely use an array variable here as well.



Also consider variable names in lower case.






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  • Thanks very much for this thorough explanation! Haven't put the other variables in quotes as those really are constants (I exactly know the one value they contain). Will have a look at the "lower case" link.

    – Larsen
    Jan 23 at 17:10
















2














I have replicated the problem and used set -x to see what the both commands really look like. It turned out this command



rsync ${RSYNC_OPTIONS} ${SOURCEDIR} ${TARGET}


is in fact equivalent to this



rsync -av --exclude '"done"' ${SOURCEDIR} ${TARGET}


Note the quotes in quotes. Your pattern is not done; it's "done", as if the directory you want to exclude had double quotes in its actual name.





To almost fix this you can declare the variable without these troublesome quotes:



RSYNC_OPTIONS='-av --exclude done'                           # poor fix, don't
rsync ${RSYNC_OPTIONS} "${SOURCEDIR}" "${TARGET}"


But this will backfire if the pattern contains spaces etc. Another approach may be with eval:



RSYNC_OPTIONS='-av --exclude "name  with  double  spaces"'
eval rsync "${RSYNC_OPTIONS}" '"${SOURCEDIR}" "${TARGET}"' # not recommended


eval will parse the line for the second time. It's very hard to use it right and safely. I double quoted ${RSYNC_OPTIONS} so "name with double spaces" doesn't lose double spaces. I single quoted "${SOURCEDIR}" "${TARGET}", so these variables are not expanded right away (otherwise their content would undergo expansion). This is tricky!



Besides, what about name "with' quotes? To get this exact string as an option-argument to rsync --exclude you need some obscure quoting and escaping in RSYNC_OPTIONS declaration. There are more reasons to avoid eval.





The real solution is to use an array in Bash. Note arrays are not portable.



RSYNC_OPTIONS=(-av --exclude 'name with  spaces and $u(h')
rsync "${RSYNC_OPTIONS[@]}" "${SOURCEDIR}" "${TARGET}"


I understand why you didn't quote ${RSYNC_OPTIONS} in your original approach. You should have quoted ${SOURCEDIR} and (separately) ${TARGET} though. The above command quotes each variable properly.



Or maybe ${SOURCEDIR} was meant to specify multiple sources? This would be the reason not to quote it, but then it could bring similar issues as ${RSYNC_OPTIONS}. In this case you should definitely use an array variable here as well.



Also consider variable names in lower case.






share|improve this answer


























  • Thanks very much for this thorough explanation! Haven't put the other variables in quotes as those really are constants (I exactly know the one value they contain). Will have a look at the "lower case" link.

    – Larsen
    Jan 23 at 17:10














2












2








2







I have replicated the problem and used set -x to see what the both commands really look like. It turned out this command



rsync ${RSYNC_OPTIONS} ${SOURCEDIR} ${TARGET}


is in fact equivalent to this



rsync -av --exclude '"done"' ${SOURCEDIR} ${TARGET}


Note the quotes in quotes. Your pattern is not done; it's "done", as if the directory you want to exclude had double quotes in its actual name.





To almost fix this you can declare the variable without these troublesome quotes:



RSYNC_OPTIONS='-av --exclude done'                           # poor fix, don't
rsync ${RSYNC_OPTIONS} "${SOURCEDIR}" "${TARGET}"


But this will backfire if the pattern contains spaces etc. Another approach may be with eval:



RSYNC_OPTIONS='-av --exclude "name  with  double  spaces"'
eval rsync "${RSYNC_OPTIONS}" '"${SOURCEDIR}" "${TARGET}"' # not recommended


eval will parse the line for the second time. It's very hard to use it right and safely. I double quoted ${RSYNC_OPTIONS} so "name with double spaces" doesn't lose double spaces. I single quoted "${SOURCEDIR}" "${TARGET}", so these variables are not expanded right away (otherwise their content would undergo expansion). This is tricky!



Besides, what about name "with' quotes? To get this exact string as an option-argument to rsync --exclude you need some obscure quoting and escaping in RSYNC_OPTIONS declaration. There are more reasons to avoid eval.





The real solution is to use an array in Bash. Note arrays are not portable.



RSYNC_OPTIONS=(-av --exclude 'name with  spaces and $u(h')
rsync "${RSYNC_OPTIONS[@]}" "${SOURCEDIR}" "${TARGET}"


I understand why you didn't quote ${RSYNC_OPTIONS} in your original approach. You should have quoted ${SOURCEDIR} and (separately) ${TARGET} though. The above command quotes each variable properly.



Or maybe ${SOURCEDIR} was meant to specify multiple sources? This would be the reason not to quote it, but then it could bring similar issues as ${RSYNC_OPTIONS}. In this case you should definitely use an array variable here as well.



Also consider variable names in lower case.






share|improve this answer















I have replicated the problem and used set -x to see what the both commands really look like. It turned out this command



rsync ${RSYNC_OPTIONS} ${SOURCEDIR} ${TARGET}


is in fact equivalent to this



rsync -av --exclude '"done"' ${SOURCEDIR} ${TARGET}


Note the quotes in quotes. Your pattern is not done; it's "done", as if the directory you want to exclude had double quotes in its actual name.





To almost fix this you can declare the variable without these troublesome quotes:



RSYNC_OPTIONS='-av --exclude done'                           # poor fix, don't
rsync ${RSYNC_OPTIONS} "${SOURCEDIR}" "${TARGET}"


But this will backfire if the pattern contains spaces etc. Another approach may be with eval:



RSYNC_OPTIONS='-av --exclude "name  with  double  spaces"'
eval rsync "${RSYNC_OPTIONS}" '"${SOURCEDIR}" "${TARGET}"' # not recommended


eval will parse the line for the second time. It's very hard to use it right and safely. I double quoted ${RSYNC_OPTIONS} so "name with double spaces" doesn't lose double spaces. I single quoted "${SOURCEDIR}" "${TARGET}", so these variables are not expanded right away (otherwise their content would undergo expansion). This is tricky!



Besides, what about name "with' quotes? To get this exact string as an option-argument to rsync --exclude you need some obscure quoting and escaping in RSYNC_OPTIONS declaration. There are more reasons to avoid eval.





The real solution is to use an array in Bash. Note arrays are not portable.



RSYNC_OPTIONS=(-av --exclude 'name with  spaces and $u(h')
rsync "${RSYNC_OPTIONS[@]}" "${SOURCEDIR}" "${TARGET}"


I understand why you didn't quote ${RSYNC_OPTIONS} in your original approach. You should have quoted ${SOURCEDIR} and (separately) ${TARGET} though. The above command quotes each variable properly.



Or maybe ${SOURCEDIR} was meant to specify multiple sources? This would be the reason not to quote it, but then it could bring similar issues as ${RSYNC_OPTIONS}. In this case you should definitely use an array variable here as well.



Also consider variable names in lower case.







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answered Jan 23 at 13:27









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  • Thanks very much for this thorough explanation! Haven't put the other variables in quotes as those really are constants (I exactly know the one value they contain). Will have a look at the "lower case" link.

    – Larsen
    Jan 23 at 17:10



















  • Thanks very much for this thorough explanation! Haven't put the other variables in quotes as those really are constants (I exactly know the one value they contain). Will have a look at the "lower case" link.

    – Larsen
    Jan 23 at 17:10

















Thanks very much for this thorough explanation! Haven't put the other variables in quotes as those really are constants (I exactly know the one value they contain). Will have a look at the "lower case" link.

– Larsen
Jan 23 at 17:10





Thanks very much for this thorough explanation! Haven't put the other variables in quotes as those really are constants (I exactly know the one value they contain). Will have a look at the "lower case" link.

– Larsen
Jan 23 at 17:10













-1














What about placing your quotes like this ?



RSYNC_OPTIONS='-av --exclude '"done"''




I only tested it on a simplified command:



SEP='-F ";"'
echo "1;2;3" | awk ${SEP} '{print $2}'


(not working)



SEP='-F '";"''
echo "1;2;3" | awk ${SEP} '{print $2}'


(working)





Edit:



With @Kamil technique, array works well too:



SEP=(-F ";")
echo "1;2;3" | awk ${SEP[@]} '{print $2}'





share|improve this answer





















  • 2





    A red herring. SEP='-F '";"'' defines the same variable value as SEP='-F ;' (compare declare -p SEP in both cases), therefore your working example is just my "poor fix" in disguise. I downvoted because this answer brings nothing new, except this weird quoting technique that only obfuscates the problem.

    – Kamil Maciorowski
    Jan 23 at 15:07











  • @KamilMaciorowski I'm a bash newbie, I just like to think there's a workaround with using only strings, but obviously I'm wrong.

    – Yoric
    Jan 23 at 15:27











  • Well, in fact there is a workaround. It involves eval and it's rather awful. My answer is now updated to cover this. While I think your answer here is not useful, there are two other answers of yours I upvoted today. In my opinion there's a mishap here, but in general you're doing well.

    – Kamil Maciorowski
    Jan 23 at 16:25











  • @KamilMaciorowski Thanks for adding to your already clear explanation, and for your concern. We do learn a lot from experienced techies like you that are kind enough to take the time to even put the appropriate links to read further. I am ok to be wrong as long as I learn more :) I am just amazed with the Linux World and a bit frustrated not to know 5% of it.

    – Yoric
    Jan 23 at 16:42


















-1














What about placing your quotes like this ?



RSYNC_OPTIONS='-av --exclude '"done"''




I only tested it on a simplified command:



SEP='-F ";"'
echo "1;2;3" | awk ${SEP} '{print $2}'


(not working)



SEP='-F '";"''
echo "1;2;3" | awk ${SEP} '{print $2}'


(working)





Edit:



With @Kamil technique, array works well too:



SEP=(-F ";")
echo "1;2;3" | awk ${SEP[@]} '{print $2}'





share|improve this answer





















  • 2





    A red herring. SEP='-F '";"'' defines the same variable value as SEP='-F ;' (compare declare -p SEP in both cases), therefore your working example is just my "poor fix" in disguise. I downvoted because this answer brings nothing new, except this weird quoting technique that only obfuscates the problem.

    – Kamil Maciorowski
    Jan 23 at 15:07











  • @KamilMaciorowski I'm a bash newbie, I just like to think there's a workaround with using only strings, but obviously I'm wrong.

    – Yoric
    Jan 23 at 15:27











  • Well, in fact there is a workaround. It involves eval and it's rather awful. My answer is now updated to cover this. While I think your answer here is not useful, there are two other answers of yours I upvoted today. In my opinion there's a mishap here, but in general you're doing well.

    – Kamil Maciorowski
    Jan 23 at 16:25











  • @KamilMaciorowski Thanks for adding to your already clear explanation, and for your concern. We do learn a lot from experienced techies like you that are kind enough to take the time to even put the appropriate links to read further. I am ok to be wrong as long as I learn more :) I am just amazed with the Linux World and a bit frustrated not to know 5% of it.

    – Yoric
    Jan 23 at 16:42
















-1












-1








-1







What about placing your quotes like this ?



RSYNC_OPTIONS='-av --exclude '"done"''




I only tested it on a simplified command:



SEP='-F ";"'
echo "1;2;3" | awk ${SEP} '{print $2}'


(not working)



SEP='-F '";"''
echo "1;2;3" | awk ${SEP} '{print $2}'


(working)





Edit:



With @Kamil technique, array works well too:



SEP=(-F ";")
echo "1;2;3" | awk ${SEP[@]} '{print $2}'





share|improve this answer















What about placing your quotes like this ?



RSYNC_OPTIONS='-av --exclude '"done"''




I only tested it on a simplified command:



SEP='-F ";"'
echo "1;2;3" | awk ${SEP} '{print $2}'


(not working)



SEP='-F '";"''
echo "1;2;3" | awk ${SEP} '{print $2}'


(working)





Edit:



With @Kamil technique, array works well too:



SEP=(-F ";")
echo "1;2;3" | awk ${SEP[@]} '{print $2}'






share|improve this answer














share|improve this answer



share|improve this answer








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answered Jan 23 at 14:05









YoricYoric

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  • 2





    A red herring. SEP='-F '";"'' defines the same variable value as SEP='-F ;' (compare declare -p SEP in both cases), therefore your working example is just my "poor fix" in disguise. I downvoted because this answer brings nothing new, except this weird quoting technique that only obfuscates the problem.

    – Kamil Maciorowski
    Jan 23 at 15:07











  • @KamilMaciorowski I'm a bash newbie, I just like to think there's a workaround with using only strings, but obviously I'm wrong.

    – Yoric
    Jan 23 at 15:27











  • Well, in fact there is a workaround. It involves eval and it's rather awful. My answer is now updated to cover this. While I think your answer here is not useful, there are two other answers of yours I upvoted today. In my opinion there's a mishap here, but in general you're doing well.

    – Kamil Maciorowski
    Jan 23 at 16:25











  • @KamilMaciorowski Thanks for adding to your already clear explanation, and for your concern. We do learn a lot from experienced techies like you that are kind enough to take the time to even put the appropriate links to read further. I am ok to be wrong as long as I learn more :) I am just amazed with the Linux World and a bit frustrated not to know 5% of it.

    – Yoric
    Jan 23 at 16:42
















  • 2





    A red herring. SEP='-F '";"'' defines the same variable value as SEP='-F ;' (compare declare -p SEP in both cases), therefore your working example is just my "poor fix" in disguise. I downvoted because this answer brings nothing new, except this weird quoting technique that only obfuscates the problem.

    – Kamil Maciorowski
    Jan 23 at 15:07











  • @KamilMaciorowski I'm a bash newbie, I just like to think there's a workaround with using only strings, but obviously I'm wrong.

    – Yoric
    Jan 23 at 15:27











  • Well, in fact there is a workaround. It involves eval and it's rather awful. My answer is now updated to cover this. While I think your answer here is not useful, there are two other answers of yours I upvoted today. In my opinion there's a mishap here, but in general you're doing well.

    – Kamil Maciorowski
    Jan 23 at 16:25











  • @KamilMaciorowski Thanks for adding to your already clear explanation, and for your concern. We do learn a lot from experienced techies like you that are kind enough to take the time to even put the appropriate links to read further. I am ok to be wrong as long as I learn more :) I am just amazed with the Linux World and a bit frustrated not to know 5% of it.

    – Yoric
    Jan 23 at 16:42










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A red herring. SEP='-F '";"'' defines the same variable value as SEP='-F ;' (compare declare -p SEP in both cases), therefore your working example is just my "poor fix" in disguise. I downvoted because this answer brings nothing new, except this weird quoting technique that only obfuscates the problem.

– Kamil Maciorowski
Jan 23 at 15:07





A red herring. SEP='-F '";"'' defines the same variable value as SEP='-F ;' (compare declare -p SEP in both cases), therefore your working example is just my "poor fix" in disguise. I downvoted because this answer brings nothing new, except this weird quoting technique that only obfuscates the problem.

– Kamil Maciorowski
Jan 23 at 15:07













@KamilMaciorowski I'm a bash newbie, I just like to think there's a workaround with using only strings, but obviously I'm wrong.

– Yoric
Jan 23 at 15:27





@KamilMaciorowski I'm a bash newbie, I just like to think there's a workaround with using only strings, but obviously I'm wrong.

– Yoric
Jan 23 at 15:27













Well, in fact there is a workaround. It involves eval and it's rather awful. My answer is now updated to cover this. While I think your answer here is not useful, there are two other answers of yours I upvoted today. In my opinion there's a mishap here, but in general you're doing well.

– Kamil Maciorowski
Jan 23 at 16:25





Well, in fact there is a workaround. It involves eval and it's rather awful. My answer is now updated to cover this. While I think your answer here is not useful, there are two other answers of yours I upvoted today. In my opinion there's a mishap here, but in general you're doing well.

– Kamil Maciorowski
Jan 23 at 16:25













@KamilMaciorowski Thanks for adding to your already clear explanation, and for your concern. We do learn a lot from experienced techies like you that are kind enough to take the time to even put the appropriate links to read further. I am ok to be wrong as long as I learn more :) I am just amazed with the Linux World and a bit frustrated not to know 5% of it.

– Yoric
Jan 23 at 16:42







@KamilMaciorowski Thanks for adding to your already clear explanation, and for your concern. We do learn a lot from experienced techies like you that are kind enough to take the time to even put the appropriate links to read further. I am ok to be wrong as long as I learn more :) I am just amazed with the Linux World and a bit frustrated not to know 5% of it.

– Yoric
Jan 23 at 16:42




















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