How would the Beacon of Hope spell interact with the paladin's Lay on Hands feature?





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How would the beacon of hope spell interact with the paladin's Lay on Hands feature?



Logically, I'm thinking it won't have any effect, as Lay on Hands heals an exact amount of hp (in my opinion, they should specify that beacon of hope only works on healing that actually have rolls, instead of saying "any healing"). It may be possible that the Paladin would only have to consume 1 point from the pool and heal the full amount possible, but I don't think that's intended.






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    Logically, I'm thinking it won't have any effect, as Lay on Hands heals an exact amount of hp (in my opinion, they should specify that beacon of hope only works on healing that actually have rolls, instead of saying "any healing"). It may be possible that the Paladin would only have to consume 1 point from the pool and heal the full amount possible, but I don't think that's intended.






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      Logically, I'm thinking it won't have any effect, as Lay on Hands heals an exact amount of hp (in my opinion, they should specify that beacon of hope only works on healing that actually have rolls, instead of saying "any healing"). It may be possible that the Paladin would only have to consume 1 point from the pool and heal the full amount possible, but I don't think that's intended.






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      Logically, I'm thinking it won't have any effect, as Lay on Hands heals an exact amount of hp (in my opinion, they should specify that beacon of hope only works on healing that actually have rolls, instead of saying "any healing"). It may be possible that the Paladin would only have to consume 1 point from the pool and heal the full amount possible, but I don't think that's intended.






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          It doesn't.



          The Beacon of Hope spell description says:




          Choose any number of creatures within range. For the duration, each target [...] regains the maximum number of hit points possible from any healing.




          So, if you're healing someone with Cure Wounds, for example, you roll 2d8. The maximum you can heal is 16, minimum is 2, average is 9. When you heal with Lay on Hands, you choose how many HP to give. If you choose 8HP, then the maximum is 8, minimum is 8, and average is 8. So you heal for 8HP, just as you chose; there is no randomness.






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            The quote in your answer doesn't match the wording from the official spell description: "This spell bestows hope and vitality. Choose any number of creatures within range. For the duration, each target has advantage on Wisdom saving throws and death saving throws, and regains the maximum number of hit points possible from any healing." I've edited the correct spell description into your answer instead, since it doesn't change anything substantially.
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            If the paladin chooses to heal 8HP, then the range of healing is {8}. The maximum of this range is 8. The minimum of this range is 8.
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            Gotcha - I think you should clarify then that your answer is "It has no effect", correct? IN which case, what is different from your answer compared to BlueMoon93s? This isn't really adding anything. You've got a good start, but when answering you should consider the other answers and how yours is different (and hopefully better!) Please also take our tour and welcome to our stack :)
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            @NautArch while the wording could definitely use tightening up, (And BlueMoon93's is just generally superior) I think what he's trying to add to the conversation is the idea that lay on hands heals with a range 0 wide, thus making it both uneffected by Beacon of Hope, but also any inverse effects that cause spells to only heal for minimal amounts. Could use a lot of cleaning up, but for a first time effort it's a useful addition.
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            @RonLugge Bluemoon's covers this entirely in their final paragraph.
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          It doesn't.



          The Beacon of Hope spell description says:




          Choose any number of creatures within range. For the duration, each target [...] regains the maximum number of hit points possible from any healing.




          So, if you're healing someone with Cure Wounds, for example, you roll 2d8. The maximum you can heal is 16, minimum is 2, average is 9. When you heal with Lay on Hands, you choose how many HP to give. If you choose 8HP, then the maximum is 8, minimum is 8, and average is 8. So you heal for 8HP, just as you chose; there is no randomness.






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            The quote in your answer doesn't match the wording from the official spell description: "This spell bestows hope and vitality. Choose any number of creatures within range. For the duration, each target has advantage on Wisdom saving throws and death saving throws, and regains the maximum number of hit points possible from any healing." I've edited the correct spell description into your answer instead, since it doesn't change anything substantially.
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          $begingroup$

          It doesn't.



          The Beacon of Hope spell description says:




          Choose any number of creatures within range. For the duration, each target [...] regains the maximum number of hit points possible from any healing.




          So, if you're healing someone with Cure Wounds, for example, you roll 2d8. The maximum you can heal is 16, minimum is 2, average is 9. When you heal with Lay on Hands, you choose how many HP to give. If you choose 8HP, then the maximum is 8, minimum is 8, and average is 8. So you heal for 8HP, just as you chose; there is no randomness.






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            $begingroup$
            The quote in your answer doesn't match the wording from the official spell description: "This spell bestows hope and vitality. Choose any number of creatures within range. For the duration, each target has advantage on Wisdom saving throws and death saving throws, and regains the maximum number of hit points possible from any healing." I've edited the correct spell description into your answer instead, since it doesn't change anything substantially.
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          $begingroup$

          It doesn't.



          The Beacon of Hope spell description says:




          Choose any number of creatures within range. For the duration, each target [...] regains the maximum number of hit points possible from any healing.




          So, if you're healing someone with Cure Wounds, for example, you roll 2d8. The maximum you can heal is 16, minimum is 2, average is 9. When you heal with Lay on Hands, you choose how many HP to give. If you choose 8HP, then the maximum is 8, minimum is 8, and average is 8. So you heal for 8HP, just as you chose; there is no randomness.






          share|improve this answer











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          It doesn't.



          The Beacon of Hope spell description says:




          Choose any number of creatures within range. For the duration, each target [...] regains the maximum number of hit points possible from any healing.




          So, if you're healing someone with Cure Wounds, for example, you roll 2d8. The maximum you can heal is 16, minimum is 2, average is 9. When you heal with Lay on Hands, you choose how many HP to give. If you choose 8HP, then the maximum is 8, minimum is 8, and average is 8. So you heal for 8HP, just as you chose; there is no randomness.







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            The quote in your answer doesn't match the wording from the official spell description: "This spell bestows hope and vitality. Choose any number of creatures within range. For the duration, each target has advantage on Wisdom saving throws and death saving throws, and regains the maximum number of hit points possible from any healing." I've edited the correct spell description into your answer instead, since it doesn't change anything substantially.
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            The quote in your answer doesn't match the wording from the official spell description: "This spell bestows hope and vitality. Choose any number of creatures within range. For the duration, each target has advantage on Wisdom saving throws and death saving throws, and regains the maximum number of hit points possible from any healing." I've edited the correct spell description into your answer instead, since it doesn't change anything substantially.
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          The quote in your answer doesn't match the wording from the official spell description: "This spell bestows hope and vitality. Choose any number of creatures within range. For the duration, each target has advantage on Wisdom saving throws and death saving throws, and regains the maximum number of hit points possible from any healing." I've edited the correct spell description into your answer instead, since it doesn't change anything substantially.
          $endgroup$
          – V2Blast
          Apr 2 at 9:28




          $begingroup$
          The quote in your answer doesn't match the wording from the official spell description: "This spell bestows hope and vitality. Choose any number of creatures within range. For the duration, each target has advantage on Wisdom saving throws and death saving throws, and regains the maximum number of hit points possible from any healing." I've edited the correct spell description into your answer instead, since it doesn't change anything substantially.
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          If a range contains only one value, then that value is the maximum.



          If it ever comes up, that value is also the minimum.






          share|improve this answer








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          Michael McNally is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
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            I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here.
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            – NautArch
            Apr 2 at 15:18






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            If the paladin chooses to heal 8HP, then the range of healing is {8}. The maximum of this range is 8. The minimum of this range is 8.
            $endgroup$
            – Michael McNally
            Apr 2 at 15:30






          • 2




            $begingroup$
            Gotcha - I think you should clarify then that your answer is "It has no effect", correct? IN which case, what is different from your answer compared to BlueMoon93s? This isn't really adding anything. You've got a good start, but when answering you should consider the other answers and how yours is different (and hopefully better!) Please also take our tour and welcome to our stack :)
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            – NautArch
            Apr 2 at 15:30












          • $begingroup$
            @NautArch while the wording could definitely use tightening up, (And BlueMoon93's is just generally superior) I think what he's trying to add to the conversation is the idea that lay on hands heals with a range 0 wide, thus making it both uneffected by Beacon of Hope, but also any inverse effects that cause spells to only heal for minimal amounts. Could use a lot of cleaning up, but for a first time effort it's a useful addition.
            $endgroup$
            – RonLugge
            Apr 2 at 18:29






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            @RonLugge Bluemoon's covers this entirely in their final paragraph.
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            – NautArch
            Apr 2 at 18:30
















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          $begingroup$

          If a range contains only one value, then that value is the maximum.



          If it ever comes up, that value is also the minimum.






          share|improve this answer








          New contributor




          Michael McNally is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
          Check out our Code of Conduct.






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            I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here.
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            – NautArch
            Apr 2 at 15:18






          • 2




            $begingroup$
            If the paladin chooses to heal 8HP, then the range of healing is {8}. The maximum of this range is 8. The minimum of this range is 8.
            $endgroup$
            – Michael McNally
            Apr 2 at 15:30






          • 2




            $begingroup$
            Gotcha - I think you should clarify then that your answer is "It has no effect", correct? IN which case, what is different from your answer compared to BlueMoon93s? This isn't really adding anything. You've got a good start, but when answering you should consider the other answers and how yours is different (and hopefully better!) Please also take our tour and welcome to our stack :)
            $endgroup$
            – NautArch
            Apr 2 at 15:30












          • $begingroup$
            @NautArch while the wording could definitely use tightening up, (And BlueMoon93's is just generally superior) I think what he's trying to add to the conversation is the idea that lay on hands heals with a range 0 wide, thus making it both uneffected by Beacon of Hope, but also any inverse effects that cause spells to only heal for minimal amounts. Could use a lot of cleaning up, but for a first time effort it's a useful addition.
            $endgroup$
            – RonLugge
            Apr 2 at 18:29






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            @RonLugge Bluemoon's covers this entirely in their final paragraph.
            $endgroup$
            – NautArch
            Apr 2 at 18:30














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          $begingroup$

          If a range contains only one value, then that value is the maximum.



          If it ever comes up, that value is also the minimum.






          share|improve this answer








          New contributor




          Michael McNally is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
          Check out our Code of Conduct.






          $endgroup$



          If a range contains only one value, then that value is the maximum.



          If it ever comes up, that value is also the minimum.







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          • 2




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            I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here.
            $endgroup$
            – NautArch
            Apr 2 at 15:18






          • 2




            $begingroup$
            If the paladin chooses to heal 8HP, then the range of healing is {8}. The maximum of this range is 8. The minimum of this range is 8.
            $endgroup$
            – Michael McNally
            Apr 2 at 15:30






          • 2




            $begingroup$
            Gotcha - I think you should clarify then that your answer is "It has no effect", correct? IN which case, what is different from your answer compared to BlueMoon93s? This isn't really adding anything. You've got a good start, but when answering you should consider the other answers and how yours is different (and hopefully better!) Please also take our tour and welcome to our stack :)
            $endgroup$
            – NautArch
            Apr 2 at 15:30












          • $begingroup$
            @NautArch while the wording could definitely use tightening up, (And BlueMoon93's is just generally superior) I think what he's trying to add to the conversation is the idea that lay on hands heals with a range 0 wide, thus making it both uneffected by Beacon of Hope, but also any inverse effects that cause spells to only heal for minimal amounts. Could use a lot of cleaning up, but for a first time effort it's a useful addition.
            $endgroup$
            – RonLugge
            Apr 2 at 18:29






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            @RonLugge Bluemoon's covers this entirely in their final paragraph.
            $endgroup$
            – NautArch
            Apr 2 at 18:30














          • 2




            $begingroup$
            I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here.
            $endgroup$
            – NautArch
            Apr 2 at 15:18






          • 2




            $begingroup$
            If the paladin chooses to heal 8HP, then the range of healing is {8}. The maximum of this range is 8. The minimum of this range is 8.
            $endgroup$
            – Michael McNally
            Apr 2 at 15:30






          • 2




            $begingroup$
            Gotcha - I think you should clarify then that your answer is "It has no effect", correct? IN which case, what is different from your answer compared to BlueMoon93s? This isn't really adding anything. You've got a good start, but when answering you should consider the other answers and how yours is different (and hopefully better!) Please also take our tour and welcome to our stack :)
            $endgroup$
            – NautArch
            Apr 2 at 15:30












          • $begingroup$
            @NautArch while the wording could definitely use tightening up, (And BlueMoon93's is just generally superior) I think what he's trying to add to the conversation is the idea that lay on hands heals with a range 0 wide, thus making it both uneffected by Beacon of Hope, but also any inverse effects that cause spells to only heal for minimal amounts. Could use a lot of cleaning up, but for a first time effort it's a useful addition.
            $endgroup$
            – RonLugge
            Apr 2 at 18:29






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            @RonLugge Bluemoon's covers this entirely in their final paragraph.
            $endgroup$
            – NautArch
            Apr 2 at 18:30








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          $begingroup$
          I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here.
          $endgroup$
          – NautArch
          Apr 2 at 15:18




          $begingroup$
          I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here.
          $endgroup$
          – NautArch
          Apr 2 at 15:18




          2




          2




          $begingroup$
          If the paladin chooses to heal 8HP, then the range of healing is {8}. The maximum of this range is 8. The minimum of this range is 8.
          $endgroup$
          – Michael McNally
          Apr 2 at 15:30




          $begingroup$
          If the paladin chooses to heal 8HP, then the range of healing is {8}. The maximum of this range is 8. The minimum of this range is 8.
          $endgroup$
          – Michael McNally
          Apr 2 at 15:30




          2




          2




          $begingroup$
          Gotcha - I think you should clarify then that your answer is "It has no effect", correct? IN which case, what is different from your answer compared to BlueMoon93s? This isn't really adding anything. You've got a good start, but when answering you should consider the other answers and how yours is different (and hopefully better!) Please also take our tour and welcome to our stack :)
          $endgroup$
          – NautArch
          Apr 2 at 15:30






          $begingroup$
          Gotcha - I think you should clarify then that your answer is "It has no effect", correct? IN which case, what is different from your answer compared to BlueMoon93s? This isn't really adding anything. You've got a good start, but when answering you should consider the other answers and how yours is different (and hopefully better!) Please also take our tour and welcome to our stack :)
          $endgroup$
          – NautArch
          Apr 2 at 15:30














          $begingroup$
          @NautArch while the wording could definitely use tightening up, (And BlueMoon93's is just generally superior) I think what he's trying to add to the conversation is the idea that lay on hands heals with a range 0 wide, thus making it both uneffected by Beacon of Hope, but also any inverse effects that cause spells to only heal for minimal amounts. Could use a lot of cleaning up, but for a first time effort it's a useful addition.
          $endgroup$
          – RonLugge
          Apr 2 at 18:29




          $begingroup$
          @NautArch while the wording could definitely use tightening up, (And BlueMoon93's is just generally superior) I think what he's trying to add to the conversation is the idea that lay on hands heals with a range 0 wide, thus making it both uneffected by Beacon of Hope, but also any inverse effects that cause spells to only heal for minimal amounts. Could use a lot of cleaning up, but for a first time effort it's a useful addition.
          $endgroup$
          – RonLugge
          Apr 2 at 18:29




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          $begingroup$
          @RonLugge Bluemoon's covers this entirely in their final paragraph.
          $endgroup$
          – NautArch
          Apr 2 at 18:30




          $begingroup$
          @RonLugge Bluemoon's covers this entirely in their final paragraph.
          $endgroup$
          – NautArch
          Apr 2 at 18:30


















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          Para otros usos de este término, véase Puebla (desambiguación). Heroica Puebla de Zaragoza Localidad De arriba a abajo de izquierda a derecha: Estrella de Puebla, Volcán Popocatépetl, Catedral de Puebla, Monumento a Ignacio Zaragoza, Estadio Cuauhtémoc, Angelópolis y Vista panorámica de la ciudad. Escudo Otros nombres: El relicario de América/ La ciudad de los Ángeles/ La Angelópolis Lema: Muy noble y muy leal ciudad de Puebla de los Ángeles Heroica Puebla de Zaragoza Localización de Heroica Puebla de Zaragoza en México Heroica Puebla de Zaragoza Localización de Heroica Puebla de Zaragoza en Puebla Mapa interactivo Coordenadas 19°03′05″N 98°13′04″O  /  19.051388888889, -98.217777777778 Coordenadas: 19°03′05″N 98°13′04″O  /  19.051388888889, -98.217777777778 Idioma oficial Español Entidad Localidad  • País   México  • Estado Puebla  • Municipio Puebla Presidente municipal Claudia Rivera Vivanc...
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          Musa

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          Para el género de plantas, véase Musa (planta). Apolo y la Nueve Musas En la mitología griega, las musas (en griego antiguo μοῦσαι « mousai» ) son, según los escritores más antiguos, las divinidades inspiradoras de las Artes: cada una de ellas está relacionada con ramas artísticas y del conocimiento. Son hijas de Zeus y de Mnemósine, compañeras del séquito de Apolo, dios olímpico de la música y patrón de las bellas artes, quien tuvo romances con cada una de ellas, dejando descendientes. Bajaban a la tierra a susurrar ideas e inspirar a aquellos mortales que las invocaran. En la época más arcaica eran las ninfas inspiradoras de las fuentes, en las cuales eran adoradas. Finalmente, alrededor de los siglos VIII-VII a. C. [ 1 ] ​ prevaleció en todo el territorio de la Hélade la adoración de las nueve Musas, que son Calíope, Clío, Erato, Euterpe, Melpómene, Polimnia, Talía, Terpsícore y Urania. El culto a las musas era originalmente de Tracia y Beocia, y fueron de vital impo...
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