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So, I have an Alternate Universe (I'll call it an AU from here on out.) of one of my favorite shows, called RWBY (link to wiki: http://rwby.wikia.com/wiki/RWBY_Wiki) It takes the premise of the show, and turns it into a rebellion against a dystopian government. I think I've changed the premise of the story enough to make it original with enough name-game and minor edits.



The thing is, I'm not sure if my AU will be different enough, or that the characters will be different enough to make it an original work. I don't have enough of a draft to display any excerpts, and I'm not trying to ask anyone to write this for me.



My question is, can an AU be tweaked enough to be able to be an original work?










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    Fifty Shades of Blurgh is proof that yes, it can.
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    Sorry? Do you mean, Fifty Shades of Grey, or is is actually the title? And is FSOG is an AU, what is the original?
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    I do mean Fifty Shades of Grey. It started out as a Twilight fanfic.
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    Where's a trash can? I need to hurl. And I now I know why both are so hated. I'm just lucky my AU isn't nearly as cringy.
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So, I have an Alternate Universe (I'll call it an AU from here on out.) of one of my favorite shows, called RWBY (link to wiki: http://rwby.wikia.com/wiki/RWBY_Wiki) It takes the premise of the show, and turns it into a rebellion against a dystopian government. I think I've changed the premise of the story enough to make it original with enough name-game and minor edits.



The thing is, I'm not sure if my AU will be different enough, or that the characters will be different enough to make it an original work. I don't have enough of a draft to display any excerpts, and I'm not trying to ask anyone to write this for me.



My question is, can an AU be tweaked enough to be able to be an original work?










share|improve this question


















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    Fifty Shades of Blurgh is proof that yes, it can.
    – Galastel
    Nov 13 at 22:07






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    Sorry? Do you mean, Fifty Shades of Grey, or is is actually the title? And is FSOG is an AU, what is the original?
    – Kale Slade
    Nov 13 at 22:09






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    I do mean Fifty Shades of Grey. It started out as a Twilight fanfic.
    – Galastel
    Nov 13 at 22:13






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    Where's a trash can? I need to hurl. And I now I know why both are so hated. I'm just lucky my AU isn't nearly as cringy.
    – Kale Slade
    Nov 13 at 22:14













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So, I have an Alternate Universe (I'll call it an AU from here on out.) of one of my favorite shows, called RWBY (link to wiki: http://rwby.wikia.com/wiki/RWBY_Wiki) It takes the premise of the show, and turns it into a rebellion against a dystopian government. I think I've changed the premise of the story enough to make it original with enough name-game and minor edits.



The thing is, I'm not sure if my AU will be different enough, or that the characters will be different enough to make it an original work. I don't have enough of a draft to display any excerpts, and I'm not trying to ask anyone to write this for me.



My question is, can an AU be tweaked enough to be able to be an original work?










share|improve this question













So, I have an Alternate Universe (I'll call it an AU from here on out.) of one of my favorite shows, called RWBY (link to wiki: http://rwby.wikia.com/wiki/RWBY_Wiki) It takes the premise of the show, and turns it into a rebellion against a dystopian government. I think I've changed the premise of the story enough to make it original with enough name-game and minor edits.



The thing is, I'm not sure if my AU will be different enough, or that the characters will be different enough to make it an original work. I don't have enough of a draft to display any excerpts, and I'm not trying to ask anyone to write this for me.



My question is, can an AU be tweaked enough to be able to be an original work?







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    Fifty Shades of Blurgh is proof that yes, it can.
    – Galastel
    Nov 13 at 22:07






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    Sorry? Do you mean, Fifty Shades of Grey, or is is actually the title? And is FSOG is an AU, what is the original?
    – Kale Slade
    Nov 13 at 22:09






  • 1




    I do mean Fifty Shades of Grey. It started out as a Twilight fanfic.
    – Galastel
    Nov 13 at 22:13






  • 1




    Where's a trash can? I need to hurl. And I now I know why both are so hated. I'm just lucky my AU isn't nearly as cringy.
    – Kale Slade
    Nov 13 at 22:14














  • 1




    Fifty Shades of Blurgh is proof that yes, it can.
    – Galastel
    Nov 13 at 22:07






  • 1




    Sorry? Do you mean, Fifty Shades of Grey, or is is actually the title? And is FSOG is an AU, what is the original?
    – Kale Slade
    Nov 13 at 22:09






  • 1




    I do mean Fifty Shades of Grey. It started out as a Twilight fanfic.
    – Galastel
    Nov 13 at 22:13






  • 1




    Where's a trash can? I need to hurl. And I now I know why both are so hated. I'm just lucky my AU isn't nearly as cringy.
    – Kale Slade
    Nov 13 at 22:14








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Fifty Shades of Blurgh is proof that yes, it can.
– Galastel
Nov 13 at 22:07




Fifty Shades of Blurgh is proof that yes, it can.
– Galastel
Nov 13 at 22:07




1




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Sorry? Do you mean, Fifty Shades of Grey, or is is actually the title? And is FSOG is an AU, what is the original?
– Kale Slade
Nov 13 at 22:09




Sorry? Do you mean, Fifty Shades of Grey, or is is actually the title? And is FSOG is an AU, what is the original?
– Kale Slade
Nov 13 at 22:09




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I do mean Fifty Shades of Grey. It started out as a Twilight fanfic.
– Galastel
Nov 13 at 22:13




I do mean Fifty Shades of Grey. It started out as a Twilight fanfic.
– Galastel
Nov 13 at 22:13




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Where's a trash can? I need to hurl. And I now I know why both are so hated. I'm just lucky my AU isn't nearly as cringy.
– Kale Slade
Nov 13 at 22:14




Where's a trash can? I need to hurl. And I now I know why both are so hated. I'm just lucky my AU isn't nearly as cringy.
– Kale Slade
Nov 13 at 22:14










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If you really want to make sure that your AU has become (or can become) original and fully independent, this is what I suggest:



[Note: I'm trying to make this advice work for any type of story, not just yours, so I will mention things that make no sense in reference to RWBY.]



1. Break both stories into categories



a. theme and purpose (what is it about? what is the objective?)



b. physical setting (world, countries, biomes, ...)



c. temporal setting (contemporary, future, past, ...)



d. characters (main, secondary, groups and allegiances, protagonists, antagonists, ...)



e. main events and progression



f. tone



2. Compare both stories step by step



Keep in mind that, as many folks say, all stories have been told. While I personally find that a gross exaggeration, the fact is that, if one compares Tarzan and Mowgli, the starting point is much the same: orphaned child is taken in by animals and must defeat both animal and human antagonists. This means that your story can have the same premisse or starting point as another and still be original.



However, if, as you compare each category, you find yourself having too many simlarities, think it over.



If I may, I believe the most crucial categories to make your story truly original are the last three.



Analyse protagonists and antagonists on each side very carefully: what makes them tick, what their strengths and weaknesses are... and, above all, look for cosmetic differences. I actually suggest that you play your own devil's advocate and actively look for similarities. What else? If there is a group, check to see if it encompasses the same number of people and, if so, if they recreate the dynamics of the first story's group.



What about the antagonists? Are they after the same goal? Do they act similarly? I mean, if the original antagonists are demons trying to destroy humanity and you also have demons trying to destroy humanity, it's not necessarily bad. But there must be enough characteristics separating them: appearance, skills, MOs, origins...



If the main events and how they progress is similar, that's a red flag, too. I don't mean the general progression, though. The typical course of an action film is always the same, for example: Hero wins fight and is the greatest, meets foe and loses, fights again and loses again, the world as we know it is now on the edge of destruction but the hero finally saves it with a last minute sacrifice. No. What I mean is if the events that mark the protagonist's (and secondaries') personal progression mirror each other, happening at a similar time and with a similar result time and again.



Finally, tone: make sure both tales have different tones. Unless, of course, the tone is what you like the most about the 'original' story and you want to keep it. In that case, the other categories have better have fundamental differences.





Finally, a word of advice: use common sense.



One could imagine that Tarzan's author was so hung up on Mowgli that he decided to recreate the exact same story but simply gave it a different setting. The result, however, was an original story (even if with the same starting point).






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    It's your plot and your own words. Spend some time on the universe to make it not easily recognizable and you're good to go.



    How successful you'll be depends on your own abilities. (Lois McMaster Bujold's highly successful Vorkosigan stories sure looked like Star Trek fanfic as they were starting to come out. They weren't, but I didn't realize that until I read where the inspiration did come from.)






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      If you really want to make sure that your AU has become (or can become) original and fully independent, this is what I suggest:



      [Note: I'm trying to make this advice work for any type of story, not just yours, so I will mention things that make no sense in reference to RWBY.]



      1. Break both stories into categories



      a. theme and purpose (what is it about? what is the objective?)



      b. physical setting (world, countries, biomes, ...)



      c. temporal setting (contemporary, future, past, ...)



      d. characters (main, secondary, groups and allegiances, protagonists, antagonists, ...)



      e. main events and progression



      f. tone



      2. Compare both stories step by step



      Keep in mind that, as many folks say, all stories have been told. While I personally find that a gross exaggeration, the fact is that, if one compares Tarzan and Mowgli, the starting point is much the same: orphaned child is taken in by animals and must defeat both animal and human antagonists. This means that your story can have the same premisse or starting point as another and still be original.



      However, if, as you compare each category, you find yourself having too many simlarities, think it over.



      If I may, I believe the most crucial categories to make your story truly original are the last three.



      Analyse protagonists and antagonists on each side very carefully: what makes them tick, what their strengths and weaknesses are... and, above all, look for cosmetic differences. I actually suggest that you play your own devil's advocate and actively look for similarities. What else? If there is a group, check to see if it encompasses the same number of people and, if so, if they recreate the dynamics of the first story's group.



      What about the antagonists? Are they after the same goal? Do they act similarly? I mean, if the original antagonists are demons trying to destroy humanity and you also have demons trying to destroy humanity, it's not necessarily bad. But there must be enough characteristics separating them: appearance, skills, MOs, origins...



      If the main events and how they progress is similar, that's a red flag, too. I don't mean the general progression, though. The typical course of an action film is always the same, for example: Hero wins fight and is the greatest, meets foe and loses, fights again and loses again, the world as we know it is now on the edge of destruction but the hero finally saves it with a last minute sacrifice. No. What I mean is if the events that mark the protagonist's (and secondaries') personal progression mirror each other, happening at a similar time and with a similar result time and again.



      Finally, tone: make sure both tales have different tones. Unless, of course, the tone is what you like the most about the 'original' story and you want to keep it. In that case, the other categories have better have fundamental differences.





      Finally, a word of advice: use common sense.



      One could imagine that Tarzan's author was so hung up on Mowgli that he decided to recreate the exact same story but simply gave it a different setting. The result, however, was an original story (even if with the same starting point).






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        If you really want to make sure that your AU has become (or can become) original and fully independent, this is what I suggest:



        [Note: I'm trying to make this advice work for any type of story, not just yours, so I will mention things that make no sense in reference to RWBY.]



        1. Break both stories into categories



        a. theme and purpose (what is it about? what is the objective?)



        b. physical setting (world, countries, biomes, ...)



        c. temporal setting (contemporary, future, past, ...)



        d. characters (main, secondary, groups and allegiances, protagonists, antagonists, ...)



        e. main events and progression



        f. tone



        2. Compare both stories step by step



        Keep in mind that, as many folks say, all stories have been told. While I personally find that a gross exaggeration, the fact is that, if one compares Tarzan and Mowgli, the starting point is much the same: orphaned child is taken in by animals and must defeat both animal and human antagonists. This means that your story can have the same premisse or starting point as another and still be original.



        However, if, as you compare each category, you find yourself having too many simlarities, think it over.



        If I may, I believe the most crucial categories to make your story truly original are the last three.



        Analyse protagonists and antagonists on each side very carefully: what makes them tick, what their strengths and weaknesses are... and, above all, look for cosmetic differences. I actually suggest that you play your own devil's advocate and actively look for similarities. What else? If there is a group, check to see if it encompasses the same number of people and, if so, if they recreate the dynamics of the first story's group.



        What about the antagonists? Are they after the same goal? Do they act similarly? I mean, if the original antagonists are demons trying to destroy humanity and you also have demons trying to destroy humanity, it's not necessarily bad. But there must be enough characteristics separating them: appearance, skills, MOs, origins...



        If the main events and how they progress is similar, that's a red flag, too. I don't mean the general progression, though. The typical course of an action film is always the same, for example: Hero wins fight and is the greatest, meets foe and loses, fights again and loses again, the world as we know it is now on the edge of destruction but the hero finally saves it with a last minute sacrifice. No. What I mean is if the events that mark the protagonist's (and secondaries') personal progression mirror each other, happening at a similar time and with a similar result time and again.



        Finally, tone: make sure both tales have different tones. Unless, of course, the tone is what you like the most about the 'original' story and you want to keep it. In that case, the other categories have better have fundamental differences.





        Finally, a word of advice: use common sense.



        One could imagine that Tarzan's author was so hung up on Mowgli that he decided to recreate the exact same story but simply gave it a different setting. The result, however, was an original story (even if with the same starting point).






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          up vote
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          If you really want to make sure that your AU has become (or can become) original and fully independent, this is what I suggest:



          [Note: I'm trying to make this advice work for any type of story, not just yours, so I will mention things that make no sense in reference to RWBY.]



          1. Break both stories into categories



          a. theme and purpose (what is it about? what is the objective?)



          b. physical setting (world, countries, biomes, ...)



          c. temporal setting (contemporary, future, past, ...)



          d. characters (main, secondary, groups and allegiances, protagonists, antagonists, ...)



          e. main events and progression



          f. tone



          2. Compare both stories step by step



          Keep in mind that, as many folks say, all stories have been told. While I personally find that a gross exaggeration, the fact is that, if one compares Tarzan and Mowgli, the starting point is much the same: orphaned child is taken in by animals and must defeat both animal and human antagonists. This means that your story can have the same premisse or starting point as another and still be original.



          However, if, as you compare each category, you find yourself having too many simlarities, think it over.



          If I may, I believe the most crucial categories to make your story truly original are the last three.



          Analyse protagonists and antagonists on each side very carefully: what makes them tick, what their strengths and weaknesses are... and, above all, look for cosmetic differences. I actually suggest that you play your own devil's advocate and actively look for similarities. What else? If there is a group, check to see if it encompasses the same number of people and, if so, if they recreate the dynamics of the first story's group.



          What about the antagonists? Are they after the same goal? Do they act similarly? I mean, if the original antagonists are demons trying to destroy humanity and you also have demons trying to destroy humanity, it's not necessarily bad. But there must be enough characteristics separating them: appearance, skills, MOs, origins...



          If the main events and how they progress is similar, that's a red flag, too. I don't mean the general progression, though. The typical course of an action film is always the same, for example: Hero wins fight and is the greatest, meets foe and loses, fights again and loses again, the world as we know it is now on the edge of destruction but the hero finally saves it with a last minute sacrifice. No. What I mean is if the events that mark the protagonist's (and secondaries') personal progression mirror each other, happening at a similar time and with a similar result time and again.



          Finally, tone: make sure both tales have different tones. Unless, of course, the tone is what you like the most about the 'original' story and you want to keep it. In that case, the other categories have better have fundamental differences.





          Finally, a word of advice: use common sense.



          One could imagine that Tarzan's author was so hung up on Mowgli that he decided to recreate the exact same story but simply gave it a different setting. The result, however, was an original story (even if with the same starting point).






          share|improve this answer












          If you really want to make sure that your AU has become (or can become) original and fully independent, this is what I suggest:



          [Note: I'm trying to make this advice work for any type of story, not just yours, so I will mention things that make no sense in reference to RWBY.]



          1. Break both stories into categories



          a. theme and purpose (what is it about? what is the objective?)



          b. physical setting (world, countries, biomes, ...)



          c. temporal setting (contemporary, future, past, ...)



          d. characters (main, secondary, groups and allegiances, protagonists, antagonists, ...)



          e. main events and progression



          f. tone



          2. Compare both stories step by step



          Keep in mind that, as many folks say, all stories have been told. While I personally find that a gross exaggeration, the fact is that, if one compares Tarzan and Mowgli, the starting point is much the same: orphaned child is taken in by animals and must defeat both animal and human antagonists. This means that your story can have the same premisse or starting point as another and still be original.



          However, if, as you compare each category, you find yourself having too many simlarities, think it over.



          If I may, I believe the most crucial categories to make your story truly original are the last three.



          Analyse protagonists and antagonists on each side very carefully: what makes them tick, what their strengths and weaknesses are... and, above all, look for cosmetic differences. I actually suggest that you play your own devil's advocate and actively look for similarities. What else? If there is a group, check to see if it encompasses the same number of people and, if so, if they recreate the dynamics of the first story's group.



          What about the antagonists? Are they after the same goal? Do they act similarly? I mean, if the original antagonists are demons trying to destroy humanity and you also have demons trying to destroy humanity, it's not necessarily bad. But there must be enough characteristics separating them: appearance, skills, MOs, origins...



          If the main events and how they progress is similar, that's a red flag, too. I don't mean the general progression, though. The typical course of an action film is always the same, for example: Hero wins fight and is the greatest, meets foe and loses, fights again and loses again, the world as we know it is now on the edge of destruction but the hero finally saves it with a last minute sacrifice. No. What I mean is if the events that mark the protagonist's (and secondaries') personal progression mirror each other, happening at a similar time and with a similar result time and again.



          Finally, tone: make sure both tales have different tones. Unless, of course, the tone is what you like the most about the 'original' story and you want to keep it. In that case, the other categories have better have fundamental differences.





          Finally, a word of advice: use common sense.



          One could imagine that Tarzan's author was so hung up on Mowgli that he decided to recreate the exact same story but simply gave it a different setting. The result, however, was an original story (even if with the same starting point).







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              It's your plot and your own words. Spend some time on the universe to make it not easily recognizable and you're good to go.



              How successful you'll be depends on your own abilities. (Lois McMaster Bujold's highly successful Vorkosigan stories sure looked like Star Trek fanfic as they were starting to come out. They weren't, but I didn't realize that until I read where the inspiration did come from.)






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                It's your plot and your own words. Spend some time on the universe to make it not easily recognizable and you're good to go.



                How successful you'll be depends on your own abilities. (Lois McMaster Bujold's highly successful Vorkosigan stories sure looked like Star Trek fanfic as they were starting to come out. They weren't, but I didn't realize that until I read where the inspiration did come from.)






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                  It's your plot and your own words. Spend some time on the universe to make it not easily recognizable and you're good to go.



                  How successful you'll be depends on your own abilities. (Lois McMaster Bujold's highly successful Vorkosigan stories sure looked like Star Trek fanfic as they were starting to come out. They weren't, but I didn't realize that until I read where the inspiration did come from.)






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                  It's your plot and your own words. Spend some time on the universe to make it not easily recognizable and you're good to go.



                  How successful you'll be depends on your own abilities. (Lois McMaster Bujold's highly successful Vorkosigan stories sure looked like Star Trek fanfic as they were starting to come out. They weren't, but I didn't realize that until I read where the inspiration did come from.)







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