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Find the minimum sum of distances from a point on the circle with equation $x^2+y^2=16$ to the points $A(-2,0)$ and $B(2,0)$.



Does this mean I have to find two distances, one from a point on the circle to point $A$ and one from a point on the circle to point $B$? Or am I supposed to find the distance between all $3$ points? If it's for all $3$, how do I go about doing this? thank you










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      Find the minimum sum of distances from a point on the circle with equation $x^2+y^2=16$ to the points $A(-2,0)$ and $B(2,0)$.



      Does this mean I have to find two distances, one from a point on the circle to point $A$ and one from a point on the circle to point $B$? Or am I supposed to find the distance between all $3$ points? If it's for all $3$, how do I go about doing this? thank you










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      Find the minimum sum of distances from a point on the circle with equation $x^2+y^2=16$ to the points $A(-2,0)$ and $B(2,0)$.



      Does this mean I have to find two distances, one from a point on the circle to point $A$ and one from a point on the circle to point $B$? Or am I supposed to find the distance between all $3$ points? If it's for all $3$, how do I go about doing this? thank you







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          You are supposed to minimize the sum of $overline{PA}$ and $overline{PB}$ where $P$ is your point on the circle.



          You have to set up the system:



          Minimize $sqrt{(x+2)^2+y^2}+sqrt{(x-2)^2+y^2}$ under the condition $x^2+y^2=16$



          Hint: Use the circle condition to express $x$ by $y$ (or vice versa) in order to eliminate one variable.






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          • The hint is a bit redundant. The expressions under $sqrt{}$ immediately simplify to expressions that only contain $x$ if $x^2+y^2=16$ is applied.
            – drhab
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          • Yes, I just suggested the application ;)
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          Your first sentence is correct. You just need to find two distances. Since you want the minimum, then it will have to be along the line from the point to the center of the circle. The sum of these two distances will then be minimum. Also, these distances will be the distance of the points from the origin minus the radius of the circle.






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          • To be found is the minimum sum. Not the sum of two minimal terms.
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          Consider an ellipse with foci $(-2,0)$, and $(2,0).$



          Let the sum of distances of a point $P$ to $(-2,0)$ and $(2,0)$ be $2a.$



          Then $b^2= a^2 - 4$, where $b$ is the minor axis, and $a$ the major axis.



          The locus of $P$:



          $dfrac{x^2}{a^2} +dfrac{y^2}{b^2} =1.$



          Minimize $a$ with the restriction:



          $P$ is a point on



          $x^2+y^2=16.$



          $a$ is minimal when the $x=pm$ a, $y=0$. (Why?).



          Hence $a^2=16$, $a= 4.$



          Recall the sum of distances to to the foci is $2a$ ,



          and finally $2a_{min}=8.$






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            You are supposed to minimize the sum of $overline{PA}$ and $overline{PB}$ where $P$ is your point on the circle.



            You have to set up the system:



            Minimize $sqrt{(x+2)^2+y^2}+sqrt{(x-2)^2+y^2}$ under the condition $x^2+y^2=16$



            Hint: Use the circle condition to express $x$ by $y$ (or vice versa) in order to eliminate one variable.






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            • The hint is a bit redundant. The expressions under $sqrt{}$ immediately simplify to expressions that only contain $x$ if $x^2+y^2=16$ is applied.
              – drhab
              Nov 17 at 9:19












            • Yes, I just suggested the application ;)
              – Nodt Greenish
              Nov 17 at 9:40















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            You are supposed to minimize the sum of $overline{PA}$ and $overline{PB}$ where $P$ is your point on the circle.



            You have to set up the system:



            Minimize $sqrt{(x+2)^2+y^2}+sqrt{(x-2)^2+y^2}$ under the condition $x^2+y^2=16$



            Hint: Use the circle condition to express $x$ by $y$ (or vice versa) in order to eliminate one variable.






            share|cite|improve this answer























            • The hint is a bit redundant. The expressions under $sqrt{}$ immediately simplify to expressions that only contain $x$ if $x^2+y^2=16$ is applied.
              – drhab
              Nov 17 at 9:19












            • Yes, I just suggested the application ;)
              – Nodt Greenish
              Nov 17 at 9:40













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            You are supposed to minimize the sum of $overline{PA}$ and $overline{PB}$ where $P$ is your point on the circle.



            You have to set up the system:



            Minimize $sqrt{(x+2)^2+y^2}+sqrt{(x-2)^2+y^2}$ under the condition $x^2+y^2=16$



            Hint: Use the circle condition to express $x$ by $y$ (or vice versa) in order to eliminate one variable.






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            You are supposed to minimize the sum of $overline{PA}$ and $overline{PB}$ where $P$ is your point on the circle.



            You have to set up the system:



            Minimize $sqrt{(x+2)^2+y^2}+sqrt{(x-2)^2+y^2}$ under the condition $x^2+y^2=16$



            Hint: Use the circle condition to express $x$ by $y$ (or vice versa) in order to eliminate one variable.







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            • The hint is a bit redundant. The expressions under $sqrt{}$ immediately simplify to expressions that only contain $x$ if $x^2+y^2=16$ is applied.
              – drhab
              Nov 17 at 9:19












            • Yes, I just suggested the application ;)
              – Nodt Greenish
              Nov 17 at 9:40


















            • The hint is a bit redundant. The expressions under $sqrt{}$ immediately simplify to expressions that only contain $x$ if $x^2+y^2=16$ is applied.
              – drhab
              Nov 17 at 9:19












            • Yes, I just suggested the application ;)
              – Nodt Greenish
              Nov 17 at 9:40
















            The hint is a bit redundant. The expressions under $sqrt{}$ immediately simplify to expressions that only contain $x$ if $x^2+y^2=16$ is applied.
            – drhab
            Nov 17 at 9:19






            The hint is a bit redundant. The expressions under $sqrt{}$ immediately simplify to expressions that only contain $x$ if $x^2+y^2=16$ is applied.
            – drhab
            Nov 17 at 9:19














            Yes, I just suggested the application ;)
            – Nodt Greenish
            Nov 17 at 9:40




            Yes, I just suggested the application ;)
            – Nodt Greenish
            Nov 17 at 9:40










            up vote
            0
            down vote













            Your first sentence is correct. You just need to find two distances. Since you want the minimum, then it will have to be along the line from the point to the center of the circle. The sum of these two distances will then be minimum. Also, these distances will be the distance of the points from the origin minus the radius of the circle.






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            • To be found is the minimum sum. Not the sum of two minimal terms.
              – drhab
              Nov 17 at 9:22















            up vote
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            Your first sentence is correct. You just need to find two distances. Since you want the minimum, then it will have to be along the line from the point to the center of the circle. The sum of these two distances will then be minimum. Also, these distances will be the distance of the points from the origin minus the radius of the circle.






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            • To be found is the minimum sum. Not the sum of two minimal terms.
              – drhab
              Nov 17 at 9:22













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            up vote
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            Your first sentence is correct. You just need to find two distances. Since you want the minimum, then it will have to be along the line from the point to the center of the circle. The sum of these two distances will then be minimum. Also, these distances will be the distance of the points from the origin minus the radius of the circle.






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            Your first sentence is correct. You just need to find two distances. Since you want the minimum, then it will have to be along the line from the point to the center of the circle. The sum of these two distances will then be minimum. Also, these distances will be the distance of the points from the origin minus the radius of the circle.







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            • To be found is the minimum sum. Not the sum of two minimal terms.
              – drhab
              Nov 17 at 9:22


















            • To be found is the minimum sum. Not the sum of two minimal terms.
              – drhab
              Nov 17 at 9:22
















            To be found is the minimum sum. Not the sum of two minimal terms.
            – drhab
            Nov 17 at 9:22




            To be found is the minimum sum. Not the sum of two minimal terms.
            – drhab
            Nov 17 at 9:22










            up vote
            0
            down vote













            Consider an ellipse with foci $(-2,0)$, and $(2,0).$



            Let the sum of distances of a point $P$ to $(-2,0)$ and $(2,0)$ be $2a.$



            Then $b^2= a^2 - 4$, where $b$ is the minor axis, and $a$ the major axis.



            The locus of $P$:



            $dfrac{x^2}{a^2} +dfrac{y^2}{b^2} =1.$



            Minimize $a$ with the restriction:



            $P$ is a point on



            $x^2+y^2=16.$



            $a$ is minimal when the $x=pm$ a, $y=0$. (Why?).



            Hence $a^2=16$, $a= 4.$



            Recall the sum of distances to to the foci is $2a$ ,



            and finally $2a_{min}=8.$






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              Consider an ellipse with foci $(-2,0)$, and $(2,0).$



              Let the sum of distances of a point $P$ to $(-2,0)$ and $(2,0)$ be $2a.$



              Then $b^2= a^2 - 4$, where $b$ is the minor axis, and $a$ the major axis.



              The locus of $P$:



              $dfrac{x^2}{a^2} +dfrac{y^2}{b^2} =1.$



              Minimize $a$ with the restriction:



              $P$ is a point on



              $x^2+y^2=16.$



              $a$ is minimal when the $x=pm$ a, $y=0$. (Why?).



              Hence $a^2=16$, $a= 4.$



              Recall the sum of distances to to the foci is $2a$ ,



              and finally $2a_{min}=8.$






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                Consider an ellipse with foci $(-2,0)$, and $(2,0).$



                Let the sum of distances of a point $P$ to $(-2,0)$ and $(2,0)$ be $2a.$



                Then $b^2= a^2 - 4$, where $b$ is the minor axis, and $a$ the major axis.



                The locus of $P$:



                $dfrac{x^2}{a^2} +dfrac{y^2}{b^2} =1.$



                Minimize $a$ with the restriction:



                $P$ is a point on



                $x^2+y^2=16.$



                $a$ is minimal when the $x=pm$ a, $y=0$. (Why?).



                Hence $a^2=16$, $a= 4.$



                Recall the sum of distances to to the foci is $2a$ ,



                and finally $2a_{min}=8.$






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                Consider an ellipse with foci $(-2,0)$, and $(2,0).$



                Let the sum of distances of a point $P$ to $(-2,0)$ and $(2,0)$ be $2a.$



                Then $b^2= a^2 - 4$, where $b$ is the minor axis, and $a$ the major axis.



                The locus of $P$:



                $dfrac{x^2}{a^2} +dfrac{y^2}{b^2} =1.$



                Minimize $a$ with the restriction:



                $P$ is a point on



                $x^2+y^2=16.$



                $a$ is minimal when the $x=pm$ a, $y=0$. (Why?).



                Hence $a^2=16$, $a= 4.$



                Recall the sum of distances to to the foci is $2a$ ,



                and finally $2a_{min}=8.$







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