Black frames at beginning of video file when file cut












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I use ffmpeg to cut a video file.
The format i use is this:



ffmpeg -i input.avi -ss 00:06:30 -to 00:07:15 -c copy output.avi


Unfortunately this leaves some black frames in the beginning of my output video, so i lose certain parts of the video. In one video i tried, this went on for one second, in another, the black frames lasted 4 seconds.



The funny thing is that when i used the same command, exactly the same amount of black frame exists for the same video. Meaning, no matter how many times i did this for my second video, in all outputs, the output video will be blank for the first 4 seconds!



The sound works great though!



Here are some other command formats i tried and did NOT work:



ffmpeg -ss 00:01:00 -i video.mp4 -to 00:02:00 -c copy cut.mp4
ffmpeg -ss 00:01:00 -i video.mp4 -to 00:02:00 -c copy -copyts cut.mp4


I thout i found my solution with the command i used, but then this problem occured



EDIT: I figured out that if i don't use the -c copy flag, then i do not have the black frames:



ffmpeg -i input.avi -ss 00:06:30 -to 00:07:15 output.avi


However, with this method, the quality of my output video is significantly lower than the input video, or the output video from the previous methods. So i am back at square one.










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  • "Unfortunately this leaves some black frames in the beginning of my output video" – how are you trying to view the video? Also, please show the full, uncut command line output as well.

    – slhck
    Jun 26 '17 at 12:32


















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I use ffmpeg to cut a video file.
The format i use is this:



ffmpeg -i input.avi -ss 00:06:30 -to 00:07:15 -c copy output.avi


Unfortunately this leaves some black frames in the beginning of my output video, so i lose certain parts of the video. In one video i tried, this went on for one second, in another, the black frames lasted 4 seconds.



The funny thing is that when i used the same command, exactly the same amount of black frame exists for the same video. Meaning, no matter how many times i did this for my second video, in all outputs, the output video will be blank for the first 4 seconds!



The sound works great though!



Here are some other command formats i tried and did NOT work:



ffmpeg -ss 00:01:00 -i video.mp4 -to 00:02:00 -c copy cut.mp4
ffmpeg -ss 00:01:00 -i video.mp4 -to 00:02:00 -c copy -copyts cut.mp4


I thout i found my solution with the command i used, but then this problem occured



EDIT: I figured out that if i don't use the -c copy flag, then i do not have the black frames:



ffmpeg -i input.avi -ss 00:06:30 -to 00:07:15 output.avi


However, with this method, the quality of my output video is significantly lower than the input video, or the output video from the previous methods. So i am back at square one.










share|improve this question

























  • "Unfortunately this leaves some black frames in the beginning of my output video" – how are you trying to view the video? Also, please show the full, uncut command line output as well.

    – slhck
    Jun 26 '17 at 12:32
















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I use ffmpeg to cut a video file.
The format i use is this:



ffmpeg -i input.avi -ss 00:06:30 -to 00:07:15 -c copy output.avi


Unfortunately this leaves some black frames in the beginning of my output video, so i lose certain parts of the video. In one video i tried, this went on for one second, in another, the black frames lasted 4 seconds.



The funny thing is that when i used the same command, exactly the same amount of black frame exists for the same video. Meaning, no matter how many times i did this for my second video, in all outputs, the output video will be blank for the first 4 seconds!



The sound works great though!



Here are some other command formats i tried and did NOT work:



ffmpeg -ss 00:01:00 -i video.mp4 -to 00:02:00 -c copy cut.mp4
ffmpeg -ss 00:01:00 -i video.mp4 -to 00:02:00 -c copy -copyts cut.mp4


I thout i found my solution with the command i used, but then this problem occured



EDIT: I figured out that if i don't use the -c copy flag, then i do not have the black frames:



ffmpeg -i input.avi -ss 00:06:30 -to 00:07:15 output.avi


However, with this method, the quality of my output video is significantly lower than the input video, or the output video from the previous methods. So i am back at square one.










share|improve this question
















I use ffmpeg to cut a video file.
The format i use is this:



ffmpeg -i input.avi -ss 00:06:30 -to 00:07:15 -c copy output.avi


Unfortunately this leaves some black frames in the beginning of my output video, so i lose certain parts of the video. In one video i tried, this went on for one second, in another, the black frames lasted 4 seconds.



The funny thing is that when i used the same command, exactly the same amount of black frame exists for the same video. Meaning, no matter how many times i did this for my second video, in all outputs, the output video will be blank for the first 4 seconds!



The sound works great though!



Here are some other command formats i tried and did NOT work:



ffmpeg -ss 00:01:00 -i video.mp4 -to 00:02:00 -c copy cut.mp4
ffmpeg -ss 00:01:00 -i video.mp4 -to 00:02:00 -c copy -copyts cut.mp4


I thout i found my solution with the command i used, but then this problem occured



EDIT: I figured out that if i don't use the -c copy flag, then i do not have the black frames:



ffmpeg -i input.avi -ss 00:06:30 -to 00:07:15 output.avi


However, with this method, the quality of my output video is significantly lower than the input video, or the output video from the previous methods. So i am back at square one.







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  • "Unfortunately this leaves some black frames in the beginning of my output video" – how are you trying to view the video? Also, please show the full, uncut command line output as well.

    – slhck
    Jun 26 '17 at 12:32





















  • "Unfortunately this leaves some black frames in the beginning of my output video" – how are you trying to view the video? Also, please show the full, uncut command line output as well.

    – slhck
    Jun 26 '17 at 12:32



















"Unfortunately this leaves some black frames in the beginning of my output video" – how are you trying to view the video? Also, please show the full, uncut command line output as well.

– slhck
Jun 26 '17 at 12:32







"Unfortunately this leaves some black frames in the beginning of my output video" – how are you trying to view the video? Also, please show the full, uncut command line output as well.

– slhck
Jun 26 '17 at 12:32












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Make sure that you are using a recent version of ffmpeg by downloading a static build, for example. There have been some major changes a while ago which affect how stream cutting works.



Here's the important difference between the commands that you ran:




  • When specifying -c copy, ffmpeg will cut the video without modifying the actual bitstream. In other words, it will take the frames as-is and copy them to the output file. In some cases (simply put, when the starting time does not correspond to an I-frame), ffmpeg needs to include some more frames that are needed to properly decode the first frame to be displayed. Those will get a negative timestamp, so they shouldn't be shown.


  • When you leave out -c copy, ffmpeg will re-encode the video with whatever encoder (mpeg4, libx264, ...) is the default for the chosen output format (AVI or MP4 in your case). These encoders may have default quality or bitrate settings that make the output look bad. When re-encoding, you should therefore know what target quality you want to set.



If cutting with stream copying does not work for you, and if you have to re-encode the video, you may as well use a recent and efficient video codec (H.264) and container (MP4), and copy the audio stream:



ffmpeg -ss 00:10:45 -i input.avi -c:v libx264 -crf 18 -to 00:11:45 -c:a copy output.mp4


Here, the CRF option controls the output quality. Values between 18 and 28 are "normal", lower values are better. The -ss option can be an input option (i.e., one that appears before -i) which makes everything faster.



For more information, read the Seeking guide on the FFmpeg Wiki.






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  • What do you mean by "the -ss can be an input option" here?

    – Hashim
    Jan 12 at 0:58






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    @Hashim See updated post

    – slhck
    Jan 12 at 11:05



















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For anyone having the same problem, i finally managed to solve it with this:



ffmpeg -i input.avi -qscale 0 -ss 00:10:45 -to 00:11:45 output.avi





share|improve this answer



















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    While this does solve the problem you're experiencing. it is not recommended. Here you are re-encoding the video and creating an unnecessarily large output file while doing so.

    – slhck
    Jun 26 '17 at 12:33











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Make sure that you are using a recent version of ffmpeg by downloading a static build, for example. There have been some major changes a while ago which affect how stream cutting works.



Here's the important difference between the commands that you ran:




  • When specifying -c copy, ffmpeg will cut the video without modifying the actual bitstream. In other words, it will take the frames as-is and copy them to the output file. In some cases (simply put, when the starting time does not correspond to an I-frame), ffmpeg needs to include some more frames that are needed to properly decode the first frame to be displayed. Those will get a negative timestamp, so they shouldn't be shown.


  • When you leave out -c copy, ffmpeg will re-encode the video with whatever encoder (mpeg4, libx264, ...) is the default for the chosen output format (AVI or MP4 in your case). These encoders may have default quality or bitrate settings that make the output look bad. When re-encoding, you should therefore know what target quality you want to set.



If cutting with stream copying does not work for you, and if you have to re-encode the video, you may as well use a recent and efficient video codec (H.264) and container (MP4), and copy the audio stream:



ffmpeg -ss 00:10:45 -i input.avi -c:v libx264 -crf 18 -to 00:11:45 -c:a copy output.mp4


Here, the CRF option controls the output quality. Values between 18 and 28 are "normal", lower values are better. The -ss option can be an input option (i.e., one that appears before -i) which makes everything faster.



For more information, read the Seeking guide on the FFmpeg Wiki.






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  • What do you mean by "the -ss can be an input option" here?

    – Hashim
    Jan 12 at 0:58






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    @Hashim See updated post

    – slhck
    Jan 12 at 11:05
















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Make sure that you are using a recent version of ffmpeg by downloading a static build, for example. There have been some major changes a while ago which affect how stream cutting works.



Here's the important difference between the commands that you ran:




  • When specifying -c copy, ffmpeg will cut the video without modifying the actual bitstream. In other words, it will take the frames as-is and copy them to the output file. In some cases (simply put, when the starting time does not correspond to an I-frame), ffmpeg needs to include some more frames that are needed to properly decode the first frame to be displayed. Those will get a negative timestamp, so they shouldn't be shown.


  • When you leave out -c copy, ffmpeg will re-encode the video with whatever encoder (mpeg4, libx264, ...) is the default for the chosen output format (AVI or MP4 in your case). These encoders may have default quality or bitrate settings that make the output look bad. When re-encoding, you should therefore know what target quality you want to set.



If cutting with stream copying does not work for you, and if you have to re-encode the video, you may as well use a recent and efficient video codec (H.264) and container (MP4), and copy the audio stream:



ffmpeg -ss 00:10:45 -i input.avi -c:v libx264 -crf 18 -to 00:11:45 -c:a copy output.mp4


Here, the CRF option controls the output quality. Values between 18 and 28 are "normal", lower values are better. The -ss option can be an input option (i.e., one that appears before -i) which makes everything faster.



For more information, read the Seeking guide on the FFmpeg Wiki.






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  • What do you mean by "the -ss can be an input option" here?

    – Hashim
    Jan 12 at 0:58






  • 1





    @Hashim See updated post

    – slhck
    Jan 12 at 11:05














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Make sure that you are using a recent version of ffmpeg by downloading a static build, for example. There have been some major changes a while ago which affect how stream cutting works.



Here's the important difference between the commands that you ran:




  • When specifying -c copy, ffmpeg will cut the video without modifying the actual bitstream. In other words, it will take the frames as-is and copy them to the output file. In some cases (simply put, when the starting time does not correspond to an I-frame), ffmpeg needs to include some more frames that are needed to properly decode the first frame to be displayed. Those will get a negative timestamp, so they shouldn't be shown.


  • When you leave out -c copy, ffmpeg will re-encode the video with whatever encoder (mpeg4, libx264, ...) is the default for the chosen output format (AVI or MP4 in your case). These encoders may have default quality or bitrate settings that make the output look bad. When re-encoding, you should therefore know what target quality you want to set.



If cutting with stream copying does not work for you, and if you have to re-encode the video, you may as well use a recent and efficient video codec (H.264) and container (MP4), and copy the audio stream:



ffmpeg -ss 00:10:45 -i input.avi -c:v libx264 -crf 18 -to 00:11:45 -c:a copy output.mp4


Here, the CRF option controls the output quality. Values between 18 and 28 are "normal", lower values are better. The -ss option can be an input option (i.e., one that appears before -i) which makes everything faster.



For more information, read the Seeking guide on the FFmpeg Wiki.






share|improve this answer















Make sure that you are using a recent version of ffmpeg by downloading a static build, for example. There have been some major changes a while ago which affect how stream cutting works.



Here's the important difference between the commands that you ran:




  • When specifying -c copy, ffmpeg will cut the video without modifying the actual bitstream. In other words, it will take the frames as-is and copy them to the output file. In some cases (simply put, when the starting time does not correspond to an I-frame), ffmpeg needs to include some more frames that are needed to properly decode the first frame to be displayed. Those will get a negative timestamp, so they shouldn't be shown.


  • When you leave out -c copy, ffmpeg will re-encode the video with whatever encoder (mpeg4, libx264, ...) is the default for the chosen output format (AVI or MP4 in your case). These encoders may have default quality or bitrate settings that make the output look bad. When re-encoding, you should therefore know what target quality you want to set.



If cutting with stream copying does not work for you, and if you have to re-encode the video, you may as well use a recent and efficient video codec (H.264) and container (MP4), and copy the audio stream:



ffmpeg -ss 00:10:45 -i input.avi -c:v libx264 -crf 18 -to 00:11:45 -c:a copy output.mp4


Here, the CRF option controls the output quality. Values between 18 and 28 are "normal", lower values are better. The -ss option can be an input option (i.e., one that appears before -i) which makes everything faster.



For more information, read the Seeking guide on the FFmpeg Wiki.







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  • What do you mean by "the -ss can be an input option" here?

    – Hashim
    Jan 12 at 0:58






  • 1





    @Hashim See updated post

    – slhck
    Jan 12 at 11:05



















  • What do you mean by "the -ss can be an input option" here?

    – Hashim
    Jan 12 at 0:58






  • 1





    @Hashim See updated post

    – slhck
    Jan 12 at 11:05

















What do you mean by "the -ss can be an input option" here?

– Hashim
Jan 12 at 0:58





What do you mean by "the -ss can be an input option" here?

– Hashim
Jan 12 at 0:58




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@Hashim See updated post

– slhck
Jan 12 at 11:05





@Hashim See updated post

– slhck
Jan 12 at 11:05













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For anyone having the same problem, i finally managed to solve it with this:



ffmpeg -i input.avi -qscale 0 -ss 00:10:45 -to 00:11:45 output.avi





share|improve this answer



















  • 1





    While this does solve the problem you're experiencing. it is not recommended. Here you are re-encoding the video and creating an unnecessarily large output file while doing so.

    – slhck
    Jun 26 '17 at 12:33
















0














For anyone having the same problem, i finally managed to solve it with this:



ffmpeg -i input.avi -qscale 0 -ss 00:10:45 -to 00:11:45 output.avi





share|improve this answer



















  • 1





    While this does solve the problem you're experiencing. it is not recommended. Here you are re-encoding the video and creating an unnecessarily large output file while doing so.

    – slhck
    Jun 26 '17 at 12:33














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0







For anyone having the same problem, i finally managed to solve it with this:



ffmpeg -i input.avi -qscale 0 -ss 00:10:45 -to 00:11:45 output.avi





share|improve this answer













For anyone having the same problem, i finally managed to solve it with this:



ffmpeg -i input.avi -qscale 0 -ss 00:10:45 -to 00:11:45 output.avi






share|improve this answer












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  • 1





    While this does solve the problem you're experiencing. it is not recommended. Here you are re-encoding the video and creating an unnecessarily large output file while doing so.

    – slhck
    Jun 26 '17 at 12:33














  • 1





    While this does solve the problem you're experiencing. it is not recommended. Here you are re-encoding the video and creating an unnecessarily large output file while doing so.

    – slhck
    Jun 26 '17 at 12:33








1




1





While this does solve the problem you're experiencing. it is not recommended. Here you are re-encoding the video and creating an unnecessarily large output file while doing so.

– slhck
Jun 26 '17 at 12:33





While this does solve the problem you're experiencing. it is not recommended. Here you are re-encoding the video and creating an unnecessarily large output file while doing so.

– slhck
Jun 26 '17 at 12:33


















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