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We consider the interior neumann problem : $$nabla^{2} u =0:::, ::r<R$$



$$ dfrac{partial u}{partial n}=dfrac{partial u}{partial r}=f(theta)::,::r=R::,:: 0<theta<2pi$$



We first establish the fact which as the solution says is the compatibility condition : $$int_B fds=0$$
which is established using Green's second formula. Now the solution proceeds as follows :



(1) The compatibility condition obtained above can be written as $$R int_0^{2pi} f(theta) dtheta=0$$



(2) In the case of the dirichlet problem of the circle , the solution of the laplace equation is given as : $$u(r,theta) = dfrac{a_0}{2} + sum_{k=1}^{infty}r^{k}(a_k cosktheta + b_k sinktheta)$$



(3) Differentiating with respect to r and applying the boundary conditions we obtain : $$dfrac{partial u}{partial r}(R,theta) = sum_{k=1}^{infty}kR^{k-1}(a_k cosktheta + b_k sinktheta) = f(theta)$$



(4) Now the expression of $f(theta)$ in a series of the form (3) is possible only by the virtue of the compatibility condition since : $$a_0 = dfrac{1}{pi} int_0^{2pi} f(tau) d tau = 0$$



The rest of the proof was okay , can anyone explain the points (1) and (4) ?



Like in (1) are we changing the variable into $theta$ ? If yes , then how is $R$ there ?



And I have no idea about (4). Kindly help !



Thanks in advance !










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    We consider the interior neumann problem : $$nabla^{2} u =0:::, ::r<R$$



    $$ dfrac{partial u}{partial n}=dfrac{partial u}{partial r}=f(theta)::,::r=R::,:: 0<theta<2pi$$



    We first establish the fact which as the solution says is the compatibility condition : $$int_B fds=0$$
    which is established using Green's second formula. Now the solution proceeds as follows :



    (1) The compatibility condition obtained above can be written as $$R int_0^{2pi} f(theta) dtheta=0$$



    (2) In the case of the dirichlet problem of the circle , the solution of the laplace equation is given as : $$u(r,theta) = dfrac{a_0}{2} + sum_{k=1}^{infty}r^{k}(a_k cosktheta + b_k sinktheta)$$



    (3) Differentiating with respect to r and applying the boundary conditions we obtain : $$dfrac{partial u}{partial r}(R,theta) = sum_{k=1}^{infty}kR^{k-1}(a_k cosktheta + b_k sinktheta) = f(theta)$$



    (4) Now the expression of $f(theta)$ in a series of the form (3) is possible only by the virtue of the compatibility condition since : $$a_0 = dfrac{1}{pi} int_0^{2pi} f(tau) d tau = 0$$



    The rest of the proof was okay , can anyone explain the points (1) and (4) ?



    Like in (1) are we changing the variable into $theta$ ? If yes , then how is $R$ there ?



    And I have no idea about (4). Kindly help !



    Thanks in advance !










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      We consider the interior neumann problem : $$nabla^{2} u =0:::, ::r<R$$



      $$ dfrac{partial u}{partial n}=dfrac{partial u}{partial r}=f(theta)::,::r=R::,:: 0<theta<2pi$$



      We first establish the fact which as the solution says is the compatibility condition : $$int_B fds=0$$
      which is established using Green's second formula. Now the solution proceeds as follows :



      (1) The compatibility condition obtained above can be written as $$R int_0^{2pi} f(theta) dtheta=0$$



      (2) In the case of the dirichlet problem of the circle , the solution of the laplace equation is given as : $$u(r,theta) = dfrac{a_0}{2} + sum_{k=1}^{infty}r^{k}(a_k cosktheta + b_k sinktheta)$$



      (3) Differentiating with respect to r and applying the boundary conditions we obtain : $$dfrac{partial u}{partial r}(R,theta) = sum_{k=1}^{infty}kR^{k-1}(a_k cosktheta + b_k sinktheta) = f(theta)$$



      (4) Now the expression of $f(theta)$ in a series of the form (3) is possible only by the virtue of the compatibility condition since : $$a_0 = dfrac{1}{pi} int_0^{2pi} f(tau) d tau = 0$$



      The rest of the proof was okay , can anyone explain the points (1) and (4) ?



      Like in (1) are we changing the variable into $theta$ ? If yes , then how is $R$ there ?



      And I have no idea about (4). Kindly help !



      Thanks in advance !










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      We consider the interior neumann problem : $$nabla^{2} u =0:::, ::r<R$$



      $$ dfrac{partial u}{partial n}=dfrac{partial u}{partial r}=f(theta)::,::r=R::,:: 0<theta<2pi$$



      We first establish the fact which as the solution says is the compatibility condition : $$int_B fds=0$$
      which is established using Green's second formula. Now the solution proceeds as follows :



      (1) The compatibility condition obtained above can be written as $$R int_0^{2pi} f(theta) dtheta=0$$



      (2) In the case of the dirichlet problem of the circle , the solution of the laplace equation is given as : $$u(r,theta) = dfrac{a_0}{2} + sum_{k=1}^{infty}r^{k}(a_k cosktheta + b_k sinktheta)$$



      (3) Differentiating with respect to r and applying the boundary conditions we obtain : $$dfrac{partial u}{partial r}(R,theta) = sum_{k=1}^{infty}kR^{k-1}(a_k cosktheta + b_k sinktheta) = f(theta)$$



      (4) Now the expression of $f(theta)$ in a series of the form (3) is possible only by the virtue of the compatibility condition since : $$a_0 = dfrac{1}{pi} int_0^{2pi} f(tau) d tau = 0$$



      The rest of the proof was okay , can anyone explain the points (1) and (4) ?



      Like in (1) are we changing the variable into $theta$ ? If yes , then how is $R$ there ?



      And I have no idea about (4). Kindly help !



      Thanks in advance !







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          The integral in (1) is transformed into polar co-ordinates by considering the " arc-length " relation. $ds$ here is the arc length. $R$ is the radius of the region. So , using $ theta = dfrac{l}{r}$ , where $l$ is the arc length and $r$ is the radius . Thus we get $ theta = dfrac{ds}{R}$ . Substituting this gives the result.



          (4) actually tells the value of the constant $a_0$. That's all.






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            The integral in (1) is transformed into polar co-ordinates by considering the " arc-length " relation. $ds$ here is the arc length. $R$ is the radius of the region. So , using $ theta = dfrac{l}{r}$ , where $l$ is the arc length and $r$ is the radius . Thus we get $ theta = dfrac{ds}{R}$ . Substituting this gives the result.



            (4) actually tells the value of the constant $a_0$. That's all.






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              The integral in (1) is transformed into polar co-ordinates by considering the " arc-length " relation. $ds$ here is the arc length. $R$ is the radius of the region. So , using $ theta = dfrac{l}{r}$ , where $l$ is the arc length and $r$ is the radius . Thus we get $ theta = dfrac{ds}{R}$ . Substituting this gives the result.



              (4) actually tells the value of the constant $a_0$. That's all.






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                The integral in (1) is transformed into polar co-ordinates by considering the " arc-length " relation. $ds$ here is the arc length. $R$ is the radius of the region. So , using $ theta = dfrac{l}{r}$ , where $l$ is the arc length and $r$ is the radius . Thus we get $ theta = dfrac{ds}{R}$ . Substituting this gives the result.



                (4) actually tells the value of the constant $a_0$. That's all.






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                The integral in (1) is transformed into polar co-ordinates by considering the " arc-length " relation. $ds$ here is the arc length. $R$ is the radius of the region. So , using $ theta = dfrac{l}{r}$ , where $l$ is the arc length and $r$ is the radius . Thus we get $ theta = dfrac{ds}{R}$ . Substituting this gives the result.



                (4) actually tells the value of the constant $a_0$. That's all.







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