Solving $ left(frac{ ( x^{3}+1 )^{3}+8 }{16}right) ^{3}+1=2x$












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Solving :
$$left(frac{ ( x^{3}+1 )^{3}+8 }{16}right) ^{3}+1=2x$$




My Try :
$$left(frac{ ( x^{3}+1 )^{3}+8 }{16}right) ^{3}=left(dfrac{(x+1)^3+2^3}{2^4}right)^3$$



$$ x^3+a^3=(x+a)^3-3ax(x+a)$$



$$left(frac{ (x^3+3)^3-6(x^3+1)(x^3+3)}{16}right) ^{3}=left(dfrac{(x^3+3)(1-6(x^3+1))}{2^4}right)+1=2x$$



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    The sum of 2 cubes can be factorised by $a^3 + b^3 = (a + b)(a^2 - ab + b^2)$. This might help you since there are at least 3 sum of 2 cubes there.
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    By inspection $x = 1$ is a solution, and consulting a CAS shows that $(textrm{l.h.s.}) - (textrm{r.h.s.}) = (x - 1) (x^2 + x - 1) p(x)$ for some irreducible polynomial $p$ of degree $24$ with no real roots.
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    Perhaps there is some slick trick to solve this, but as it appears this seems to be a horrible, almost criminal, equation to solve.
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Solving :
$$left(frac{ ( x^{3}+1 )^{3}+8 }{16}right) ^{3}+1=2x$$




My Try :
$$left(frac{ ( x^{3}+1 )^{3}+8 }{16}right) ^{3}=left(dfrac{(x+1)^3+2^3}{2^4}right)^3$$



$$ x^3+a^3=(x+a)^3-3ax(x+a)$$



$$left(frac{ (x^3+3)^3-6(x^3+1)(x^3+3)}{16}right) ^{3}=left(dfrac{(x^3+3)(1-6(x^3+1))}{2^4}right)+1=2x$$



Now what ?










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  • $begingroup$
    The sum of 2 cubes can be factorised by $a^3 + b^3 = (a + b)(a^2 - ab + b^2)$. This might help you since there are at least 3 sum of 2 cubes there.
    $endgroup$
    – stuart stevenson
    Dec 25 '18 at 9:36






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    By inspection $x = 1$ is a solution, and consulting a CAS shows that $(textrm{l.h.s.}) - (textrm{r.h.s.}) = (x - 1) (x^2 + x - 1) p(x)$ for some irreducible polynomial $p$ of degree $24$ with no real roots.
    $endgroup$
    – Travis
    Dec 25 '18 at 9:50






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Perhaps there is some slick trick to solve this, but as it appears this seems to be a horrible, almost criminal, equation to solve.
    $endgroup$
    – DonAntonio
    Dec 25 '18 at 10:29














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$begingroup$



Solving :
$$left(frac{ ( x^{3}+1 )^{3}+8 }{16}right) ^{3}+1=2x$$




My Try :
$$left(frac{ ( x^{3}+1 )^{3}+8 }{16}right) ^{3}=left(dfrac{(x+1)^3+2^3}{2^4}right)^3$$



$$ x^3+a^3=(x+a)^3-3ax(x+a)$$



$$left(frac{ (x^3+3)^3-6(x^3+1)(x^3+3)}{16}right) ^{3}=left(dfrac{(x^3+3)(1-6(x^3+1))}{2^4}right)+1=2x$$



Now what ?










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Solving :
$$left(frac{ ( x^{3}+1 )^{3}+8 }{16}right) ^{3}+1=2x$$




My Try :
$$left(frac{ ( x^{3}+1 )^{3}+8 }{16}right) ^{3}=left(dfrac{(x+1)^3+2^3}{2^4}right)^3$$



$$ x^3+a^3=(x+a)^3-3ax(x+a)$$



$$left(frac{ (x^3+3)^3-6(x^3+1)(x^3+3)}{16}right) ^{3}=left(dfrac{(x^3+3)(1-6(x^3+1))}{2^4}right)+1=2x$$



Now what ?







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  • $begingroup$
    The sum of 2 cubes can be factorised by $a^3 + b^3 = (a + b)(a^2 - ab + b^2)$. This might help you since there are at least 3 sum of 2 cubes there.
    $endgroup$
    – stuart stevenson
    Dec 25 '18 at 9:36






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    By inspection $x = 1$ is a solution, and consulting a CAS shows that $(textrm{l.h.s.}) - (textrm{r.h.s.}) = (x - 1) (x^2 + x - 1) p(x)$ for some irreducible polynomial $p$ of degree $24$ with no real roots.
    $endgroup$
    – Travis
    Dec 25 '18 at 9:50






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Perhaps there is some slick trick to solve this, but as it appears this seems to be a horrible, almost criminal, equation to solve.
    $endgroup$
    – DonAntonio
    Dec 25 '18 at 10:29


















  • $begingroup$
    The sum of 2 cubes can be factorised by $a^3 + b^3 = (a + b)(a^2 - ab + b^2)$. This might help you since there are at least 3 sum of 2 cubes there.
    $endgroup$
    – stuart stevenson
    Dec 25 '18 at 9:36






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    By inspection $x = 1$ is a solution, and consulting a CAS shows that $(textrm{l.h.s.}) - (textrm{r.h.s.}) = (x - 1) (x^2 + x - 1) p(x)$ for some irreducible polynomial $p$ of degree $24$ with no real roots.
    $endgroup$
    – Travis
    Dec 25 '18 at 9:50






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Perhaps there is some slick trick to solve this, but as it appears this seems to be a horrible, almost criminal, equation to solve.
    $endgroup$
    – DonAntonio
    Dec 25 '18 at 10:29
















$begingroup$
The sum of 2 cubes can be factorised by $a^3 + b^3 = (a + b)(a^2 - ab + b^2)$. This might help you since there are at least 3 sum of 2 cubes there.
$endgroup$
– stuart stevenson
Dec 25 '18 at 9:36




$begingroup$
The sum of 2 cubes can be factorised by $a^3 + b^3 = (a + b)(a^2 - ab + b^2)$. This might help you since there are at least 3 sum of 2 cubes there.
$endgroup$
– stuart stevenson
Dec 25 '18 at 9:36




2




2




$begingroup$
By inspection $x = 1$ is a solution, and consulting a CAS shows that $(textrm{l.h.s.}) - (textrm{r.h.s.}) = (x - 1) (x^2 + x - 1) p(x)$ for some irreducible polynomial $p$ of degree $24$ with no real roots.
$endgroup$
– Travis
Dec 25 '18 at 9:50




$begingroup$
By inspection $x = 1$ is a solution, and consulting a CAS shows that $(textrm{l.h.s.}) - (textrm{r.h.s.}) = (x - 1) (x^2 + x - 1) p(x)$ for some irreducible polynomial $p$ of degree $24$ with no real roots.
$endgroup$
– Travis
Dec 25 '18 at 9:50




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$begingroup$
Perhaps there is some slick trick to solve this, but as it appears this seems to be a horrible, almost criminal, equation to solve.
$endgroup$
– DonAntonio
Dec 25 '18 at 10:29




$begingroup$
Perhaps there is some slick trick to solve this, but as it appears this seems to be a horrible, almost criminal, equation to solve.
$endgroup$
– DonAntonio
Dec 25 '18 at 10:29










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Let $frac{x^3+1}{2}=y$ and $sqrt[3]{2x-1}=z.$



Thus, from the given we obtain $frac{y^3+1}{2}=z.$



Now, let $x>y$.



Thus, $$x>y=frac{x^3+1}{2}>frac{y^3+1}{2}=z,$$ which says that
$$x>y>z.$$
But from $y^3+1=2z$ and $z^3+1=2x$ we obtain
$$0=y^3-z^3+2(x-z)>0,$$ which is a contradiction.



By the same way we'll get a contradiction for $x<y$.



Id est $x=y$, $$x^3-2x+1=0$$ or
$$x^3-x^2+x^2-x-x+1=0$$ or
$$(x-1)(x^2+x-1)=0,$$
which gives the answer:
$$left{1,frac{-1+sqrt5}{2},frac{-1-sqrt5}{2}right}$$






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    Slight variant: define $fcolonmathbb{R}tomathbb{R}$, $xmapstofrac{x^3+1}{2}$. $f$ is strictly increasing on $mathbb{R}$, so if $x lessgtr f(x)$, then $f(x) lessgtr f(f(x))$, therefore $f(f(x)) lessgtr f(f(f(x)))$, therefore $x lessgtr f(f(f(x)))$. Hence, $x = f(f(f(x)))$ iff $x = f(x)$.
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    @Calum Gilhooley I saw this way. I just wrote this idea differently.
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    It was merely my take on what you had written, only a "slight" variant, as I said. Yours is a nice answer; I just wanted to make it a little easier to see at a glance.
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$begingroup$

Let $frac{x^3+1}{2}=y$ and $sqrt[3]{2x-1}=z.$



Thus, from the given we obtain $frac{y^3+1}{2}=z.$



Now, let $x>y$.



Thus, $$x>y=frac{x^3+1}{2}>frac{y^3+1}{2}=z,$$ which says that
$$x>y>z.$$
But from $y^3+1=2z$ and $z^3+1=2x$ we obtain
$$0=y^3-z^3+2(x-z)>0,$$ which is a contradiction.



By the same way we'll get a contradiction for $x<y$.



Id est $x=y$, $$x^3-2x+1=0$$ or
$$x^3-x^2+x^2-x-x+1=0$$ or
$$(x-1)(x^2+x-1)=0,$$
which gives the answer:
$$left{1,frac{-1+sqrt5}{2},frac{-1-sqrt5}{2}right}$$






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    $begingroup$
    Slight variant: define $fcolonmathbb{R}tomathbb{R}$, $xmapstofrac{x^3+1}{2}$. $f$ is strictly increasing on $mathbb{R}$, so if $x lessgtr f(x)$, then $f(x) lessgtr f(f(x))$, therefore $f(f(x)) lessgtr f(f(f(x)))$, therefore $x lessgtr f(f(f(x)))$. Hence, $x = f(f(f(x)))$ iff $x = f(x)$.
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  • $begingroup$
    @Calum Gilhooley I saw this way. I just wrote this idea differently.
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    – Michael Rozenberg
    Dec 25 '18 at 19:03






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    It was merely my take on what you had written, only a "slight" variant, as I said. Yours is a nice answer; I just wanted to make it a little easier to see at a glance.
    $endgroup$
    – Calum Gilhooley
    Dec 25 '18 at 20:06
















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$begingroup$

Let $frac{x^3+1}{2}=y$ and $sqrt[3]{2x-1}=z.$



Thus, from the given we obtain $frac{y^3+1}{2}=z.$



Now, let $x>y$.



Thus, $$x>y=frac{x^3+1}{2}>frac{y^3+1}{2}=z,$$ which says that
$$x>y>z.$$
But from $y^3+1=2z$ and $z^3+1=2x$ we obtain
$$0=y^3-z^3+2(x-z)>0,$$ which is a contradiction.



By the same way we'll get a contradiction for $x<y$.



Id est $x=y$, $$x^3-2x+1=0$$ or
$$x^3-x^2+x^2-x-x+1=0$$ or
$$(x-1)(x^2+x-1)=0,$$
which gives the answer:
$$left{1,frac{-1+sqrt5}{2},frac{-1-sqrt5}{2}right}$$






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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Slight variant: define $fcolonmathbb{R}tomathbb{R}$, $xmapstofrac{x^3+1}{2}$. $f$ is strictly increasing on $mathbb{R}$, so if $x lessgtr f(x)$, then $f(x) lessgtr f(f(x))$, therefore $f(f(x)) lessgtr f(f(f(x)))$, therefore $x lessgtr f(f(f(x)))$. Hence, $x = f(f(f(x)))$ iff $x = f(x)$.
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    – Calum Gilhooley
    Dec 25 '18 at 14:07










  • $begingroup$
    @Calum Gilhooley I saw this way. I just wrote this idea differently.
    $endgroup$
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Dec 25 '18 at 19:03






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    It was merely my take on what you had written, only a "slight" variant, as I said. Yours is a nice answer; I just wanted to make it a little easier to see at a glance.
    $endgroup$
    – Calum Gilhooley
    Dec 25 '18 at 20:06














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$begingroup$

Let $frac{x^3+1}{2}=y$ and $sqrt[3]{2x-1}=z.$



Thus, from the given we obtain $frac{y^3+1}{2}=z.$



Now, let $x>y$.



Thus, $$x>y=frac{x^3+1}{2}>frac{y^3+1}{2}=z,$$ which says that
$$x>y>z.$$
But from $y^3+1=2z$ and $z^3+1=2x$ we obtain
$$0=y^3-z^3+2(x-z)>0,$$ which is a contradiction.



By the same way we'll get a contradiction for $x<y$.



Id est $x=y$, $$x^3-2x+1=0$$ or
$$x^3-x^2+x^2-x-x+1=0$$ or
$$(x-1)(x^2+x-1)=0,$$
which gives the answer:
$$left{1,frac{-1+sqrt5}{2},frac{-1-sqrt5}{2}right}$$






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Let $frac{x^3+1}{2}=y$ and $sqrt[3]{2x-1}=z.$



Thus, from the given we obtain $frac{y^3+1}{2}=z.$



Now, let $x>y$.



Thus, $$x>y=frac{x^3+1}{2}>frac{y^3+1}{2}=z,$$ which says that
$$x>y>z.$$
But from $y^3+1=2z$ and $z^3+1=2x$ we obtain
$$0=y^3-z^3+2(x-z)>0,$$ which is a contradiction.



By the same way we'll get a contradiction for $x<y$.



Id est $x=y$, $$x^3-2x+1=0$$ or
$$x^3-x^2+x^2-x-x+1=0$$ or
$$(x-1)(x^2+x-1)=0,$$
which gives the answer:
$$left{1,frac{-1+sqrt5}{2},frac{-1-sqrt5}{2}right}$$







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    $begingroup$
    Slight variant: define $fcolonmathbb{R}tomathbb{R}$, $xmapstofrac{x^3+1}{2}$. $f$ is strictly increasing on $mathbb{R}$, so if $x lessgtr f(x)$, then $f(x) lessgtr f(f(x))$, therefore $f(f(x)) lessgtr f(f(f(x)))$, therefore $x lessgtr f(f(f(x)))$. Hence, $x = f(f(f(x)))$ iff $x = f(x)$.
    $endgroup$
    – Calum Gilhooley
    Dec 25 '18 at 14:07










  • $begingroup$
    @Calum Gilhooley I saw this way. I just wrote this idea differently.
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    – Michael Rozenberg
    Dec 25 '18 at 19:03






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    It was merely my take on what you had written, only a "slight" variant, as I said. Yours is a nice answer; I just wanted to make it a little easier to see at a glance.
    $endgroup$
    – Calum Gilhooley
    Dec 25 '18 at 20:06














  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Slight variant: define $fcolonmathbb{R}tomathbb{R}$, $xmapstofrac{x^3+1}{2}$. $f$ is strictly increasing on $mathbb{R}$, so if $x lessgtr f(x)$, then $f(x) lessgtr f(f(x))$, therefore $f(f(x)) lessgtr f(f(f(x)))$, therefore $x lessgtr f(f(f(x)))$. Hence, $x = f(f(f(x)))$ iff $x = f(x)$.
    $endgroup$
    – Calum Gilhooley
    Dec 25 '18 at 14:07










  • $begingroup$
    @Calum Gilhooley I saw this way. I just wrote this idea differently.
    $endgroup$
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Dec 25 '18 at 19:03






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    It was merely my take on what you had written, only a "slight" variant, as I said. Yours is a nice answer; I just wanted to make it a little easier to see at a glance.
    $endgroup$
    – Calum Gilhooley
    Dec 25 '18 at 20:06








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$begingroup$
Slight variant: define $fcolonmathbb{R}tomathbb{R}$, $xmapstofrac{x^3+1}{2}$. $f$ is strictly increasing on $mathbb{R}$, so if $x lessgtr f(x)$, then $f(x) lessgtr f(f(x))$, therefore $f(f(x)) lessgtr f(f(f(x)))$, therefore $x lessgtr f(f(f(x)))$. Hence, $x = f(f(f(x)))$ iff $x = f(x)$.
$endgroup$
– Calum Gilhooley
Dec 25 '18 at 14:07




$begingroup$
Slight variant: define $fcolonmathbb{R}tomathbb{R}$, $xmapstofrac{x^3+1}{2}$. $f$ is strictly increasing on $mathbb{R}$, so if $x lessgtr f(x)$, then $f(x) lessgtr f(f(x))$, therefore $f(f(x)) lessgtr f(f(f(x)))$, therefore $x lessgtr f(f(f(x)))$. Hence, $x = f(f(f(x)))$ iff $x = f(x)$.
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@Calum Gilhooley I saw this way. I just wrote this idea differently.
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– Michael Rozenberg
Dec 25 '18 at 19:03




$begingroup$
@Calum Gilhooley I saw this way. I just wrote this idea differently.
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– Michael Rozenberg
Dec 25 '18 at 19:03




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$begingroup$
It was merely my take on what you had written, only a "slight" variant, as I said. Yours is a nice answer; I just wanted to make it a little easier to see at a glance.
$endgroup$
– Calum Gilhooley
Dec 25 '18 at 20:06




$begingroup$
It was merely my take on what you had written, only a "slight" variant, as I said. Yours is a nice answer; I just wanted to make it a little easier to see at a glance.
$endgroup$
– Calum Gilhooley
Dec 25 '18 at 20:06


















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