Metric $d(sigma,tau)$ in $S_{n}$











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Let $S_{n}$ denote the set of permutations of the sequence from $(1,2,dots,n)$.
Let us define a metric on $S_{n}$ for any $sigma, tauin S_{n}$, such that $$d(sigma,tau)=sum_{i=1}^{n}vertsigma(i)-tau(i)vert$$. What are the values of $d(sigma,tau)$ can be?



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    I would start with $sigma$ a cycle and $tau$ the identity.
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  • Can it ever be negative? Can it ever be non-integer? How large can it be for a fixed $n$? The best way to get a grip on this is to do a few calculations yourself.
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    Oct 12 '17 at 16:06






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    First, observe that $dleft(sigma, tauright) = dleft(1, tau circ sigma^{-1}right)$, where $1$ denotes $operatorname{id}$. Thus, it suffices to understand $dleft(1, piright)$ for all permutations $pi$. But $dleft(1, piright)$ is the total displacement of $pi$, and equals twice the depth of $pi$, studied in arXiv:1202.4765v3. From Proposition 3.2 in that paper, you can conclude that $dleft(sigma, tauright)$ is an even integer between $0$ and $2leftlfloor n^2/4rightrfloor$. Suspecting that all such integers are actually reached.
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Let $S_{n}$ denote the set of permutations of the sequence from $(1,2,dots,n)$.
Let us define a metric on $S_{n}$ for any $sigma, tauin S_{n}$, such that $$d(sigma,tau)=sum_{i=1}^{n}vertsigma(i)-tau(i)vert$$. What are the values of $d(sigma,tau)$ can be?



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    I would start with $sigma$ a cycle and $tau$ the identity.
    – Steve D
    Oct 12 '17 at 16:04










  • Can it ever be negative? Can it ever be non-integer? How large can it be for a fixed $n$? The best way to get a grip on this is to do a few calculations yourself.
    – Teddy38
    Oct 12 '17 at 16:06






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    First, observe that $dleft(sigma, tauright) = dleft(1, tau circ sigma^{-1}right)$, where $1$ denotes $operatorname{id}$. Thus, it suffices to understand $dleft(1, piright)$ for all permutations $pi$. But $dleft(1, piright)$ is the total displacement of $pi$, and equals twice the depth of $pi$, studied in arXiv:1202.4765v3. From Proposition 3.2 in that paper, you can conclude that $dleft(sigma, tauright)$ is an even integer between $0$ and $2leftlfloor n^2/4rightrfloor$. Suspecting that all such integers are actually reached.
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Let $S_{n}$ denote the set of permutations of the sequence from $(1,2,dots,n)$.
Let us define a metric on $S_{n}$ for any $sigma, tauin S_{n}$, such that $$d(sigma,tau)=sum_{i=1}^{n}vertsigma(i)-tau(i)vert$$. What are the values of $d(sigma,tau)$ can be?



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Let $S_{n}$ denote the set of permutations of the sequence from $(1,2,dots,n)$.
Let us define a metric on $S_{n}$ for any $sigma, tauin S_{n}$, such that $$d(sigma,tau)=sum_{i=1}^{n}vertsigma(i)-tau(i)vert$$. What are the values of $d(sigma,tau)$ can be?



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    I would start with $sigma$ a cycle and $tau$ the identity.
    – Steve D
    Oct 12 '17 at 16:04










  • Can it ever be negative? Can it ever be non-integer? How large can it be for a fixed $n$? The best way to get a grip on this is to do a few calculations yourself.
    – Teddy38
    Oct 12 '17 at 16:06






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    First, observe that $dleft(sigma, tauright) = dleft(1, tau circ sigma^{-1}right)$, where $1$ denotes $operatorname{id}$. Thus, it suffices to understand $dleft(1, piright)$ for all permutations $pi$. But $dleft(1, piright)$ is the total displacement of $pi$, and equals twice the depth of $pi$, studied in arXiv:1202.4765v3. From Proposition 3.2 in that paper, you can conclude that $dleft(sigma, tauright)$ is an even integer between $0$ and $2leftlfloor n^2/4rightrfloor$. Suspecting that all such integers are actually reached.
    – darij grinberg
    Nov 15 at 0:29
















  • 3




    I would start with $sigma$ a cycle and $tau$ the identity.
    – Steve D
    Oct 12 '17 at 16:04










  • Can it ever be negative? Can it ever be non-integer? How large can it be for a fixed $n$? The best way to get a grip on this is to do a few calculations yourself.
    – Teddy38
    Oct 12 '17 at 16:06






  • 1




    First, observe that $dleft(sigma, tauright) = dleft(1, tau circ sigma^{-1}right)$, where $1$ denotes $operatorname{id}$. Thus, it suffices to understand $dleft(1, piright)$ for all permutations $pi$. But $dleft(1, piright)$ is the total displacement of $pi$, and equals twice the depth of $pi$, studied in arXiv:1202.4765v3. From Proposition 3.2 in that paper, you can conclude that $dleft(sigma, tauright)$ is an even integer between $0$ and $2leftlfloor n^2/4rightrfloor$. Suspecting that all such integers are actually reached.
    – darij grinberg
    Nov 15 at 0:29










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I would start with $sigma$ a cycle and $tau$ the identity.
– Steve D
Oct 12 '17 at 16:04




I would start with $sigma$ a cycle and $tau$ the identity.
– Steve D
Oct 12 '17 at 16:04












Can it ever be negative? Can it ever be non-integer? How large can it be for a fixed $n$? The best way to get a grip on this is to do a few calculations yourself.
– Teddy38
Oct 12 '17 at 16:06




Can it ever be negative? Can it ever be non-integer? How large can it be for a fixed $n$? The best way to get a grip on this is to do a few calculations yourself.
– Teddy38
Oct 12 '17 at 16:06




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First, observe that $dleft(sigma, tauright) = dleft(1, tau circ sigma^{-1}right)$, where $1$ denotes $operatorname{id}$. Thus, it suffices to understand $dleft(1, piright)$ for all permutations $pi$. But $dleft(1, piright)$ is the total displacement of $pi$, and equals twice the depth of $pi$, studied in arXiv:1202.4765v3. From Proposition 3.2 in that paper, you can conclude that $dleft(sigma, tauright)$ is an even integer between $0$ and $2leftlfloor n^2/4rightrfloor$. Suspecting that all such integers are actually reached.
– darij grinberg
Nov 15 at 0:29






First, observe that $dleft(sigma, tauright) = dleft(1, tau circ sigma^{-1}right)$, where $1$ denotes $operatorname{id}$. Thus, it suffices to understand $dleft(1, piright)$ for all permutations $pi$. But $dleft(1, piright)$ is the total displacement of $pi$, and equals twice the depth of $pi$, studied in arXiv:1202.4765v3. From Proposition 3.2 in that paper, you can conclude that $dleft(sigma, tauright)$ is an even integer between $0$ and $2leftlfloor n^2/4rightrfloor$. Suspecting that all such integers are actually reached.
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Let $D_n$ be the range of $d$ under $S_n$. A quick and dirty implementation in python



import itertools
n = 4
domain = range(1, n+1)
perm = list(itertools.permutations(domain))
values = set()

for i in perm:
for j in perm:
x = 0
for k in range (0, n):
x += abs(i[k] -j[k])
values.add(x)

return values


yields that
$$
begin{align*}
D_1 &= {0} \
D_2 &= {0,2 } \
D_3 &= {0,2,4 } \
D_4 &= {0,2,4, 6, 8} \
D_5 &= {0,2,4,6,8,10,12 } \
D_6 &= {0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18 } \
D_7 &= {0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22,24 }
end{align*}
$$



It's also easy to show that $D_n subseteq D_{n+1}$ and that ${0,2, ldots, 2 cdot (n-1) } subseteq D_{n+1}$ (for all $n$). However, I'm not sure where the extra values in the steps $3 mapsto 4$, $4 mapsto 5$, $5 mapsto 6$, $6 mapsto 7$ come from.






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    If you take the difference between the identity and "reverse" permutations you get a value of $2n^2 in D_{2n}$ and $2n(n+1) in D_{2n+1}$ which seems to match the maximum values you got.
    – Daniel Schepler
    Nov 15 at 0:13










  • The maximum value is OEIS A007590
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The value of $d(sigma,tau)$ can be any even integer between $0$ and $leftlfloorfrac{1}{2}n^2rightrfloor$. In fact, given an even integer $k$ within these bounds, one can explicitly construct a permutation $sigma$ with $d(sigma,Id)=k$, where $Id$ denotes the identity permutation (we will abuse the notation slightly and use the same name for all identity permutations, regardless of the value of $n$).



We will prove this in an induction-like fashion:




  • If $nleq 2$, the problem is trivial. From now on, we'll assume $ngeq 3$.

  • If $k < 2(n-1)$, we can deduce that $kleq 2(n-1)-2$ (due to $k$ being an even integer) and a short calculation tells us that:
    $$begin{eqnarray}
    0 & leq & (n-3)^2 \
    0 & leq & (n-1)^2 - 4n + 8\
    2(n-1) - 2 & leq & frac{1}{2}(n-1)^2 \
    k & leq & leftlfloorfrac{1}{2}(n-1)^2rightrfloor \
    end{eqnarray}$$

    where the floor function could have been introduced thanks to the left-hand side of the inequality being an integer. The last inequality allows us to apply the induction hypothesis to obtain a permutation $sigma$ on $(n-1)$ elements having $d(sigma,Id)=k$ and extend it by setting $sigma(n)=n$ to obtain a permutation on $n$ elements with the desired property.

  • Finally, if $kgeq 2(n-1)$, we find a permutation $sigma'$ on $(n-2)$ elements with $d(sigma',Id)=k-2(n-1)$ by the induction hypothesis. This can be done because $$begin{eqnarray}
    k-2(n-1) & leq & leftlfloor frac{1}{2}n^2rightrfloor - 2(n-1)\
    & = & leftlfloor frac{1}{2}left(n^2 - 4n + 4right)rightrfloor\
    & = & leftlfloor frac{1}{2}left(n-2right)^2rightrfloor
    end{eqnarray}$$

    Now, we can define our permutation $sigma$ as $sigma(1)=n$, $sigma(n)=1$ and $sigma(i)=sigma'(i-1)+1$ for $1<i<n$. Doing so gives us $d(sigma,Id)=(n-1)+d(sigma',Id)+(n-1)=k$.


This completes the proof that any even value between $0$ and $leftlfloorfrac{1}{2}n^2rightrfloor$ is a distance between some pair of permutations.



Note that this chain of reasoning does not show that a value larger than $leftlfloorfrac{1}{2}n^2rightrfloor$ cannot be obtained by some permutation, nor that only even values are reachable; neither of which is too hard to prove.






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    This is not an answer but too long for a comment:



    Let $D_n$ be the range of $d$ under $S_n$. A quick and dirty implementation in python



    import itertools
    n = 4
    domain = range(1, n+1)
    perm = list(itertools.permutations(domain))
    values = set()

    for i in perm:
    for j in perm:
    x = 0
    for k in range (0, n):
    x += abs(i[k] -j[k])
    values.add(x)

    return values


    yields that
    $$
    begin{align*}
    D_1 &= {0} \
    D_2 &= {0,2 } \
    D_3 &= {0,2,4 } \
    D_4 &= {0,2,4, 6, 8} \
    D_5 &= {0,2,4,6,8,10,12 } \
    D_6 &= {0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18 } \
    D_7 &= {0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22,24 }
    end{align*}
    $$



    It's also easy to show that $D_n subseteq D_{n+1}$ and that ${0,2, ldots, 2 cdot (n-1) } subseteq D_{n+1}$ (for all $n$). However, I'm not sure where the extra values in the steps $3 mapsto 4$, $4 mapsto 5$, $5 mapsto 6$, $6 mapsto 7$ come from.






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      If you take the difference between the identity and "reverse" permutations you get a value of $2n^2 in D_{2n}$ and $2n(n+1) in D_{2n+1}$ which seems to match the maximum values you got.
      – Daniel Schepler
      Nov 15 at 0:13










    • The maximum value is OEIS A007590
      – Surb
      Nov 15 at 7:24

















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    This is not an answer but too long for a comment:



    Let $D_n$ be the range of $d$ under $S_n$. A quick and dirty implementation in python



    import itertools
    n = 4
    domain = range(1, n+1)
    perm = list(itertools.permutations(domain))
    values = set()

    for i in perm:
    for j in perm:
    x = 0
    for k in range (0, n):
    x += abs(i[k] -j[k])
    values.add(x)

    return values


    yields that
    $$
    begin{align*}
    D_1 &= {0} \
    D_2 &= {0,2 } \
    D_3 &= {0,2,4 } \
    D_4 &= {0,2,4, 6, 8} \
    D_5 &= {0,2,4,6,8,10,12 } \
    D_6 &= {0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18 } \
    D_7 &= {0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22,24 }
    end{align*}
    $$



    It's also easy to show that $D_n subseteq D_{n+1}$ and that ${0,2, ldots, 2 cdot (n-1) } subseteq D_{n+1}$ (for all $n$). However, I'm not sure where the extra values in the steps $3 mapsto 4$, $4 mapsto 5$, $5 mapsto 6$, $6 mapsto 7$ come from.






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    • 1




      If you take the difference between the identity and "reverse" permutations you get a value of $2n^2 in D_{2n}$ and $2n(n+1) in D_{2n+1}$ which seems to match the maximum values you got.
      – Daniel Schepler
      Nov 15 at 0:13










    • The maximum value is OEIS A007590
      – Surb
      Nov 15 at 7:24















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    +25




    This is not an answer but too long for a comment:



    Let $D_n$ be the range of $d$ under $S_n$. A quick and dirty implementation in python



    import itertools
    n = 4
    domain = range(1, n+1)
    perm = list(itertools.permutations(domain))
    values = set()

    for i in perm:
    for j in perm:
    x = 0
    for k in range (0, n):
    x += abs(i[k] -j[k])
    values.add(x)

    return values


    yields that
    $$
    begin{align*}
    D_1 &= {0} \
    D_2 &= {0,2 } \
    D_3 &= {0,2,4 } \
    D_4 &= {0,2,4, 6, 8} \
    D_5 &= {0,2,4,6,8,10,12 } \
    D_6 &= {0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18 } \
    D_7 &= {0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22,24 }
    end{align*}
    $$



    It's also easy to show that $D_n subseteq D_{n+1}$ and that ${0,2, ldots, 2 cdot (n-1) } subseteq D_{n+1}$ (for all $n$). However, I'm not sure where the extra values in the steps $3 mapsto 4$, $4 mapsto 5$, $5 mapsto 6$, $6 mapsto 7$ come from.






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    This is not an answer but too long for a comment:



    Let $D_n$ be the range of $d$ under $S_n$. A quick and dirty implementation in python



    import itertools
    n = 4
    domain = range(1, n+1)
    perm = list(itertools.permutations(domain))
    values = set()

    for i in perm:
    for j in perm:
    x = 0
    for k in range (0, n):
    x += abs(i[k] -j[k])
    values.add(x)

    return values


    yields that
    $$
    begin{align*}
    D_1 &= {0} \
    D_2 &= {0,2 } \
    D_3 &= {0,2,4 } \
    D_4 &= {0,2,4, 6, 8} \
    D_5 &= {0,2,4,6,8,10,12 } \
    D_6 &= {0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18 } \
    D_7 &= {0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22,24 }
    end{align*}
    $$



    It's also easy to show that $D_n subseteq D_{n+1}$ and that ${0,2, ldots, 2 cdot (n-1) } subseteq D_{n+1}$ (for all $n$). However, I'm not sure where the extra values in the steps $3 mapsto 4$, $4 mapsto 5$, $5 mapsto 6$, $6 mapsto 7$ come from.







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      If you take the difference between the identity and "reverse" permutations you get a value of $2n^2 in D_{2n}$ and $2n(n+1) in D_{2n+1}$ which seems to match the maximum values you got.
      – Daniel Schepler
      Nov 15 at 0:13










    • The maximum value is OEIS A007590
      – Surb
      Nov 15 at 7:24
















    • 1




      If you take the difference between the identity and "reverse" permutations you get a value of $2n^2 in D_{2n}$ and $2n(n+1) in D_{2n+1}$ which seems to match the maximum values you got.
      – Daniel Schepler
      Nov 15 at 0:13










    • The maximum value is OEIS A007590
      – Surb
      Nov 15 at 7:24










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    If you take the difference between the identity and "reverse" permutations you get a value of $2n^2 in D_{2n}$ and $2n(n+1) in D_{2n+1}$ which seems to match the maximum values you got.
    – Daniel Schepler
    Nov 15 at 0:13




    If you take the difference between the identity and "reverse" permutations you get a value of $2n^2 in D_{2n}$ and $2n(n+1) in D_{2n+1}$ which seems to match the maximum values you got.
    – Daniel Schepler
    Nov 15 at 0:13












    The maximum value is OEIS A007590
    – Surb
    Nov 15 at 7:24






    The maximum value is OEIS A007590
    – Surb
    Nov 15 at 7:24












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    down vote













    The value of $d(sigma,tau)$ can be any even integer between $0$ and $leftlfloorfrac{1}{2}n^2rightrfloor$. In fact, given an even integer $k$ within these bounds, one can explicitly construct a permutation $sigma$ with $d(sigma,Id)=k$, where $Id$ denotes the identity permutation (we will abuse the notation slightly and use the same name for all identity permutations, regardless of the value of $n$).



    We will prove this in an induction-like fashion:




    • If $nleq 2$, the problem is trivial. From now on, we'll assume $ngeq 3$.

    • If $k < 2(n-1)$, we can deduce that $kleq 2(n-1)-2$ (due to $k$ being an even integer) and a short calculation tells us that:
      $$begin{eqnarray}
      0 & leq & (n-3)^2 \
      0 & leq & (n-1)^2 - 4n + 8\
      2(n-1) - 2 & leq & frac{1}{2}(n-1)^2 \
      k & leq & leftlfloorfrac{1}{2}(n-1)^2rightrfloor \
      end{eqnarray}$$

      where the floor function could have been introduced thanks to the left-hand side of the inequality being an integer. The last inequality allows us to apply the induction hypothesis to obtain a permutation $sigma$ on $(n-1)$ elements having $d(sigma,Id)=k$ and extend it by setting $sigma(n)=n$ to obtain a permutation on $n$ elements with the desired property.

    • Finally, if $kgeq 2(n-1)$, we find a permutation $sigma'$ on $(n-2)$ elements with $d(sigma',Id)=k-2(n-1)$ by the induction hypothesis. This can be done because $$begin{eqnarray}
      k-2(n-1) & leq & leftlfloor frac{1}{2}n^2rightrfloor - 2(n-1)\
      & = & leftlfloor frac{1}{2}left(n^2 - 4n + 4right)rightrfloor\
      & = & leftlfloor frac{1}{2}left(n-2right)^2rightrfloor
      end{eqnarray}$$

      Now, we can define our permutation $sigma$ as $sigma(1)=n$, $sigma(n)=1$ and $sigma(i)=sigma'(i-1)+1$ for $1<i<n$. Doing so gives us $d(sigma,Id)=(n-1)+d(sigma',Id)+(n-1)=k$.


    This completes the proof that any even value between $0$ and $leftlfloorfrac{1}{2}n^2rightrfloor$ is a distance between some pair of permutations.



    Note that this chain of reasoning does not show that a value larger than $leftlfloorfrac{1}{2}n^2rightrfloor$ cannot be obtained by some permutation, nor that only even values are reachable; neither of which is too hard to prove.






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      The value of $d(sigma,tau)$ can be any even integer between $0$ and $leftlfloorfrac{1}{2}n^2rightrfloor$. In fact, given an even integer $k$ within these bounds, one can explicitly construct a permutation $sigma$ with $d(sigma,Id)=k$, where $Id$ denotes the identity permutation (we will abuse the notation slightly and use the same name for all identity permutations, regardless of the value of $n$).



      We will prove this in an induction-like fashion:




      • If $nleq 2$, the problem is trivial. From now on, we'll assume $ngeq 3$.

      • If $k < 2(n-1)$, we can deduce that $kleq 2(n-1)-2$ (due to $k$ being an even integer) and a short calculation tells us that:
        $$begin{eqnarray}
        0 & leq & (n-3)^2 \
        0 & leq & (n-1)^2 - 4n + 8\
        2(n-1) - 2 & leq & frac{1}{2}(n-1)^2 \
        k & leq & leftlfloorfrac{1}{2}(n-1)^2rightrfloor \
        end{eqnarray}$$

        where the floor function could have been introduced thanks to the left-hand side of the inequality being an integer. The last inequality allows us to apply the induction hypothesis to obtain a permutation $sigma$ on $(n-1)$ elements having $d(sigma,Id)=k$ and extend it by setting $sigma(n)=n$ to obtain a permutation on $n$ elements with the desired property.

      • Finally, if $kgeq 2(n-1)$, we find a permutation $sigma'$ on $(n-2)$ elements with $d(sigma',Id)=k-2(n-1)$ by the induction hypothesis. This can be done because $$begin{eqnarray}
        k-2(n-1) & leq & leftlfloor frac{1}{2}n^2rightrfloor - 2(n-1)\
        & = & leftlfloor frac{1}{2}left(n^2 - 4n + 4right)rightrfloor\
        & = & leftlfloor frac{1}{2}left(n-2right)^2rightrfloor
        end{eqnarray}$$

        Now, we can define our permutation $sigma$ as $sigma(1)=n$, $sigma(n)=1$ and $sigma(i)=sigma'(i-1)+1$ for $1<i<n$. Doing so gives us $d(sigma,Id)=(n-1)+d(sigma',Id)+(n-1)=k$.


      This completes the proof that any even value between $0$ and $leftlfloorfrac{1}{2}n^2rightrfloor$ is a distance between some pair of permutations.



      Note that this chain of reasoning does not show that a value larger than $leftlfloorfrac{1}{2}n^2rightrfloor$ cannot be obtained by some permutation, nor that only even values are reachable; neither of which is too hard to prove.






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        The value of $d(sigma,tau)$ can be any even integer between $0$ and $leftlfloorfrac{1}{2}n^2rightrfloor$. In fact, given an even integer $k$ within these bounds, one can explicitly construct a permutation $sigma$ with $d(sigma,Id)=k$, where $Id$ denotes the identity permutation (we will abuse the notation slightly and use the same name for all identity permutations, regardless of the value of $n$).



        We will prove this in an induction-like fashion:




        • If $nleq 2$, the problem is trivial. From now on, we'll assume $ngeq 3$.

        • If $k < 2(n-1)$, we can deduce that $kleq 2(n-1)-2$ (due to $k$ being an even integer) and a short calculation tells us that:
          $$begin{eqnarray}
          0 & leq & (n-3)^2 \
          0 & leq & (n-1)^2 - 4n + 8\
          2(n-1) - 2 & leq & frac{1}{2}(n-1)^2 \
          k & leq & leftlfloorfrac{1}{2}(n-1)^2rightrfloor \
          end{eqnarray}$$

          where the floor function could have been introduced thanks to the left-hand side of the inequality being an integer. The last inequality allows us to apply the induction hypothesis to obtain a permutation $sigma$ on $(n-1)$ elements having $d(sigma,Id)=k$ and extend it by setting $sigma(n)=n$ to obtain a permutation on $n$ elements with the desired property.

        • Finally, if $kgeq 2(n-1)$, we find a permutation $sigma'$ on $(n-2)$ elements with $d(sigma',Id)=k-2(n-1)$ by the induction hypothesis. This can be done because $$begin{eqnarray}
          k-2(n-1) & leq & leftlfloor frac{1}{2}n^2rightrfloor - 2(n-1)\
          & = & leftlfloor frac{1}{2}left(n^2 - 4n + 4right)rightrfloor\
          & = & leftlfloor frac{1}{2}left(n-2right)^2rightrfloor
          end{eqnarray}$$

          Now, we can define our permutation $sigma$ as $sigma(1)=n$, $sigma(n)=1$ and $sigma(i)=sigma'(i-1)+1$ for $1<i<n$. Doing so gives us $d(sigma,Id)=(n-1)+d(sigma',Id)+(n-1)=k$.


        This completes the proof that any even value between $0$ and $leftlfloorfrac{1}{2}n^2rightrfloor$ is a distance between some pair of permutations.



        Note that this chain of reasoning does not show that a value larger than $leftlfloorfrac{1}{2}n^2rightrfloor$ cannot be obtained by some permutation, nor that only even values are reachable; neither of which is too hard to prove.






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        The value of $d(sigma,tau)$ can be any even integer between $0$ and $leftlfloorfrac{1}{2}n^2rightrfloor$. In fact, given an even integer $k$ within these bounds, one can explicitly construct a permutation $sigma$ with $d(sigma,Id)=k$, where $Id$ denotes the identity permutation (we will abuse the notation slightly and use the same name for all identity permutations, regardless of the value of $n$).



        We will prove this in an induction-like fashion:




        • If $nleq 2$, the problem is trivial. From now on, we'll assume $ngeq 3$.

        • If $k < 2(n-1)$, we can deduce that $kleq 2(n-1)-2$ (due to $k$ being an even integer) and a short calculation tells us that:
          $$begin{eqnarray}
          0 & leq & (n-3)^2 \
          0 & leq & (n-1)^2 - 4n + 8\
          2(n-1) - 2 & leq & frac{1}{2}(n-1)^2 \
          k & leq & leftlfloorfrac{1}{2}(n-1)^2rightrfloor \
          end{eqnarray}$$

          where the floor function could have been introduced thanks to the left-hand side of the inequality being an integer. The last inequality allows us to apply the induction hypothesis to obtain a permutation $sigma$ on $(n-1)$ elements having $d(sigma,Id)=k$ and extend it by setting $sigma(n)=n$ to obtain a permutation on $n$ elements with the desired property.

        • Finally, if $kgeq 2(n-1)$, we find a permutation $sigma'$ on $(n-2)$ elements with $d(sigma',Id)=k-2(n-1)$ by the induction hypothesis. This can be done because $$begin{eqnarray}
          k-2(n-1) & leq & leftlfloor frac{1}{2}n^2rightrfloor - 2(n-1)\
          & = & leftlfloor frac{1}{2}left(n^2 - 4n + 4right)rightrfloor\
          & = & leftlfloor frac{1}{2}left(n-2right)^2rightrfloor
          end{eqnarray}$$

          Now, we can define our permutation $sigma$ as $sigma(1)=n$, $sigma(n)=1$ and $sigma(i)=sigma'(i-1)+1$ for $1<i<n$. Doing so gives us $d(sigma,Id)=(n-1)+d(sigma',Id)+(n-1)=k$.


        This completes the proof that any even value between $0$ and $leftlfloorfrac{1}{2}n^2rightrfloor$ is a distance between some pair of permutations.



        Note that this chain of reasoning does not show that a value larger than $leftlfloorfrac{1}{2}n^2rightrfloor$ cannot be obtained by some permutation, nor that only even values are reachable; neither of which is too hard to prove.







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