when two sets of vectors have the same all linear combinations?











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I don't know how to solve this kind of question this is my issue firstly I'm given tow sets of vectors S,T



S={v1,v2,v3,v4} this one is dependent
T={v1,v2,v4} this one is independent
as you may notice the set T is a subset of S which has the same vectors except {v3} then how to show that the two sets have the same all linear combinations?










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    I don't know how to solve this kind of question this is my issue firstly I'm given tow sets of vectors S,T



    S={v1,v2,v3,v4} this one is dependent
    T={v1,v2,v4} this one is independent
    as you may notice the set T is a subset of S which has the same vectors except {v3} then how to show that the two sets have the same all linear combinations?










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      I don't know how to solve this kind of question this is my issue firstly I'm given tow sets of vectors S,T



      S={v1,v2,v3,v4} this one is dependent
      T={v1,v2,v4} this one is independent
      as you may notice the set T is a subset of S which has the same vectors except {v3} then how to show that the two sets have the same all linear combinations?










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      I don't know how to solve this kind of question this is my issue firstly I'm given tow sets of vectors S,T



      S={v1,v2,v3,v4} this one is dependent
      T={v1,v2,v4} this one is independent
      as you may notice the set T is a subset of S which has the same vectors except {v3} then how to show that the two sets have the same all linear combinations?







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          We just have to show that $v_3$ can be expressed as a linear combination of $v_1, v_2, v_4$.



          Hence adding $v_3$ doesn't change the span.






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          • sorry, sir could you please explain what does it mean when two sets of vectors have the same all linear combinations?
            – faisal
            Nov 19 at 11:03










          • If we let $A = span{ v_1, v_2, v_3, v_4}$ and $B = span{ v_1, v_2, v_4}$. Then the two sets $A$ and $B$ are the same.
            – Siong Thye Goh
            Nov 19 at 11:46










          • thank you, sir, you are really great
            – faisal
            Nov 19 at 11:56











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          We just have to show that $v_3$ can be expressed as a linear combination of $v_1, v_2, v_4$.



          Hence adding $v_3$ doesn't change the span.






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          • sorry, sir could you please explain what does it mean when two sets of vectors have the same all linear combinations?
            – faisal
            Nov 19 at 11:03










          • If we let $A = span{ v_1, v_2, v_3, v_4}$ and $B = span{ v_1, v_2, v_4}$. Then the two sets $A$ and $B$ are the same.
            – Siong Thye Goh
            Nov 19 at 11:46










          • thank you, sir, you are really great
            – faisal
            Nov 19 at 11:56















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          We just have to show that $v_3$ can be expressed as a linear combination of $v_1, v_2, v_4$.



          Hence adding $v_3$ doesn't change the span.






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          • sorry, sir could you please explain what does it mean when two sets of vectors have the same all linear combinations?
            – faisal
            Nov 19 at 11:03










          • If we let $A = span{ v_1, v_2, v_3, v_4}$ and $B = span{ v_1, v_2, v_4}$. Then the two sets $A$ and $B$ are the same.
            – Siong Thye Goh
            Nov 19 at 11:46










          • thank you, sir, you are really great
            – faisal
            Nov 19 at 11:56













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          We just have to show that $v_3$ can be expressed as a linear combination of $v_1, v_2, v_4$.



          Hence adding $v_3$ doesn't change the span.






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          We just have to show that $v_3$ can be expressed as a linear combination of $v_1, v_2, v_4$.



          Hence adding $v_3$ doesn't change the span.







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          answered Nov 19 at 9:46









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          • sorry, sir could you please explain what does it mean when two sets of vectors have the same all linear combinations?
            – faisal
            Nov 19 at 11:03










          • If we let $A = span{ v_1, v_2, v_3, v_4}$ and $B = span{ v_1, v_2, v_4}$. Then the two sets $A$ and $B$ are the same.
            – Siong Thye Goh
            Nov 19 at 11:46










          • thank you, sir, you are really great
            – faisal
            Nov 19 at 11:56


















          • sorry, sir could you please explain what does it mean when two sets of vectors have the same all linear combinations?
            – faisal
            Nov 19 at 11:03










          • If we let $A = span{ v_1, v_2, v_3, v_4}$ and $B = span{ v_1, v_2, v_4}$. Then the two sets $A$ and $B$ are the same.
            – Siong Thye Goh
            Nov 19 at 11:46










          • thank you, sir, you are really great
            – faisal
            Nov 19 at 11:56
















          sorry, sir could you please explain what does it mean when two sets of vectors have the same all linear combinations?
          – faisal
          Nov 19 at 11:03




          sorry, sir could you please explain what does it mean when two sets of vectors have the same all linear combinations?
          – faisal
          Nov 19 at 11:03












          If we let $A = span{ v_1, v_2, v_3, v_4}$ and $B = span{ v_1, v_2, v_4}$. Then the two sets $A$ and $B$ are the same.
          – Siong Thye Goh
          Nov 19 at 11:46




          If we let $A = span{ v_1, v_2, v_3, v_4}$ and $B = span{ v_1, v_2, v_4}$. Then the two sets $A$ and $B$ are the same.
          – Siong Thye Goh
          Nov 19 at 11:46












          thank you, sir, you are really great
          – faisal
          Nov 19 at 11:56




          thank you, sir, you are really great
          – faisal
          Nov 19 at 11:56


















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