Can you break Ghaunadaur’s curse from Princes of the Apocalypse by being reduced to 0 hp?












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In Princes of the Apocalypse, a player got hit with Ghaunadaur’s curse... The rules for the curse state (Temple of the Elder Elemental Eye, room F19; PotA, p. 121):




The curse is like a polymorph spell, except it turns the offender into an ochre jelly that lacks the Split reaction. A greater restoration or remove curse spell ends this effect.




It says it's like a polymorph spell... and polymorph's description says that:




The transformation lasts for the duration, or until the target drops to 0 hit points or dies.




The part I'm hung up on is the a greater restoration or remove curse spell ends this effect part... does that mean only a greater restoration or remove curse spell ends the effect? The wording almost suggests that this overrules the way polymorph works (since it's a curse).



Bottom line - does dropping to 0 hp end the curse?










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  • I don't have access to this module, is your quote of the curse accurate in formatting?

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  • It's a literal copy/paste of the only two sentences about it (will I get in trouble for pasting this?)... the sentences before it explain how the curse gets inflicted (the DC, type of save, etc). There's no other information about it.

    – Hylianux
    12 hours ago






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    For future reference, linking to D&D Beyond is perfectly fine, even references that are not public.

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  • Hmm... should I modify the title to say "polymorph-like curse"? I'm beginning to think that distinction might be necessary...

    – Hylianux
    12 hours ago






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    @Hylianux There is no need, the question is fine as is. If such a distinction is necessary it is up to the answers to state/clarify that

    – Sdjz
    12 hours ago
















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In Princes of the Apocalypse, a player got hit with Ghaunadaur’s curse... The rules for the curse state (Temple of the Elder Elemental Eye, room F19; PotA, p. 121):




The curse is like a polymorph spell, except it turns the offender into an ochre jelly that lacks the Split reaction. A greater restoration or remove curse spell ends this effect.




It says it's like a polymorph spell... and polymorph's description says that:




The transformation lasts for the duration, or until the target drops to 0 hit points or dies.




The part I'm hung up on is the a greater restoration or remove curse spell ends this effect part... does that mean only a greater restoration or remove curse spell ends the effect? The wording almost suggests that this overrules the way polymorph works (since it's a curse).



Bottom line - does dropping to 0 hp end the curse?










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  • I don't have access to this module, is your quote of the curse accurate in formatting?

    – NautArch
    12 hours ago











  • It's a literal copy/paste of the only two sentences about it (will I get in trouble for pasting this?)... the sentences before it explain how the curse gets inflicted (the DC, type of save, etc). There's no other information about it.

    – Hylianux
    12 hours ago






  • 1





    For future reference, linking to D&D Beyond is perfectly fine, even references that are not public.

    – Sdjz
    12 hours ago











  • Hmm... should I modify the title to say "polymorph-like curse"? I'm beginning to think that distinction might be necessary...

    – Hylianux
    12 hours ago






  • 2





    @Hylianux There is no need, the question is fine as is. If such a distinction is necessary it is up to the answers to state/clarify that

    – Sdjz
    12 hours ago














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In Princes of the Apocalypse, a player got hit with Ghaunadaur’s curse... The rules for the curse state (Temple of the Elder Elemental Eye, room F19; PotA, p. 121):




The curse is like a polymorph spell, except it turns the offender into an ochre jelly that lacks the Split reaction. A greater restoration or remove curse spell ends this effect.




It says it's like a polymorph spell... and polymorph's description says that:




The transformation lasts for the duration, or until the target drops to 0 hit points or dies.




The part I'm hung up on is the a greater restoration or remove curse spell ends this effect part... does that mean only a greater restoration or remove curse spell ends the effect? The wording almost suggests that this overrules the way polymorph works (since it's a curse).



Bottom line - does dropping to 0 hp end the curse?










share|improve this question
















In Princes of the Apocalypse, a player got hit with Ghaunadaur’s curse... The rules for the curse state (Temple of the Elder Elemental Eye, room F19; PotA, p. 121):




The curse is like a polymorph spell, except it turns the offender into an ochre jelly that lacks the Split reaction. A greater restoration or remove curse spell ends this effect.




It says it's like a polymorph spell... and polymorph's description says that:




The transformation lasts for the duration, or until the target drops to 0 hit points or dies.




The part I'm hung up on is the a greater restoration or remove curse spell ends this effect part... does that mean only a greater restoration or remove curse spell ends the effect? The wording almost suggests that this overrules the way polymorph works (since it's a curse).



Bottom line - does dropping to 0 hp end the curse?







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  • I don't have access to this module, is your quote of the curse accurate in formatting?

    – NautArch
    12 hours ago











  • It's a literal copy/paste of the only two sentences about it (will I get in trouble for pasting this?)... the sentences before it explain how the curse gets inflicted (the DC, type of save, etc). There's no other information about it.

    – Hylianux
    12 hours ago






  • 1





    For future reference, linking to D&D Beyond is perfectly fine, even references that are not public.

    – Sdjz
    12 hours ago











  • Hmm... should I modify the title to say "polymorph-like curse"? I'm beginning to think that distinction might be necessary...

    – Hylianux
    12 hours ago






  • 2





    @Hylianux There is no need, the question is fine as is. If such a distinction is necessary it is up to the answers to state/clarify that

    – Sdjz
    12 hours ago



















  • I don't have access to this module, is your quote of the curse accurate in formatting?

    – NautArch
    12 hours ago











  • It's a literal copy/paste of the only two sentences about it (will I get in trouble for pasting this?)... the sentences before it explain how the curse gets inflicted (the DC, type of save, etc). There's no other information about it.

    – Hylianux
    12 hours ago






  • 1





    For future reference, linking to D&D Beyond is perfectly fine, even references that are not public.

    – Sdjz
    12 hours ago











  • Hmm... should I modify the title to say "polymorph-like curse"? I'm beginning to think that distinction might be necessary...

    – Hylianux
    12 hours ago






  • 2





    @Hylianux There is no need, the question is fine as is. If such a distinction is necessary it is up to the answers to state/clarify that

    – Sdjz
    12 hours ago

















I don't have access to this module, is your quote of the curse accurate in formatting?

– NautArch
12 hours ago





I don't have access to this module, is your quote of the curse accurate in formatting?

– NautArch
12 hours ago













It's a literal copy/paste of the only two sentences about it (will I get in trouble for pasting this?)... the sentences before it explain how the curse gets inflicted (the DC, type of save, etc). There's no other information about it.

– Hylianux
12 hours ago





It's a literal copy/paste of the only two sentences about it (will I get in trouble for pasting this?)... the sentences before it explain how the curse gets inflicted (the DC, type of save, etc). There's no other information about it.

– Hylianux
12 hours ago




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For future reference, linking to D&D Beyond is perfectly fine, even references that are not public.

– Sdjz
12 hours ago





For future reference, linking to D&D Beyond is perfectly fine, even references that are not public.

– Sdjz
12 hours ago













Hmm... should I modify the title to say "polymorph-like curse"? I'm beginning to think that distinction might be necessary...

– Hylianux
12 hours ago





Hmm... should I modify the title to say "polymorph-like curse"? I'm beginning to think that distinction might be necessary...

– Hylianux
12 hours ago




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@Hylianux There is no need, the question is fine as is. If such a distinction is necessary it is up to the answers to state/clarify that

– Sdjz
12 hours ago





@Hylianux There is no need, the question is fine as is. If such a distinction is necessary it is up to the answers to state/clarify that

– Sdjz
12 hours ago










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By RAW, yes, dropping to 0 hp does end the curse



If the text you gave is, as stated in your comment, the only information given about the curse, then all the normal means of ending a polymorph spell will end the curse.



As quoted,




The curse is like a polymorph spell, except it turns the offender into an ochre jelly that lacks the Split reaction.




Meaning, that it should otherwise be like the Polymorph spell in every way except those that are specifically noted.




A greater restoration or remove curse spell ends this effect.




This doesn't exclude the normal means of ending the spell. It just adds an additional means to end the curse. It still maintains its "like a polymorph spell" status.



To add clarity, you can look at T.J.L.'s answer on this question. To summarize in his words, it's "Additive, Not Exclusive".






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    While I appreciate your reasoning, a lot of NPC abilities and module specific-details are not identical to what's in the PHB, and tend to be "custom made for this module" things. I think that your answer would be improved if you explored the fact that the term "curse" is used in the spell description and show the relationship to the bestow curse spell ... your call.

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  • Yeah, I'll admit, "like a polymorph spell" might not be as far-reaching as I think it is. If that is indeed the case, then Nautarch has provided a good answer for that line of reasoning.

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  • Wouldn't the specific mention of "like polymorph" beat the general likeness this effect has with Bestow Curse?

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    9 hours ago



















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No, it is not the spell polymorph



We don't know what "like the polymorph spell" means, but we do know that there are times when a specific mechanic is provided and when something similar is done.



There are many examples of creatures that can "polymorph" but that don't directly associate with the polymorph spell. When that direct mechanic is used, WoTC typically uses language like "as if casting polymorph" with the associated italics. Without the italics and language, I don't think we can assume that it works exactly the same way - especially when there is language on how to remove it that is different from polymorph.



With this curse, we don't know the extent of what the similarity is (other than changing your form and statistics), but we do know that unlike polymorph, the only way to end this is the language in the curse of:




A greater restoration or remove curse spell ends this effect.




That above language is not in the actual spell polymorph, so those are the only things that can end this particular curse and not the standard ways of ending polymorph like HP to 0 or even dispel magic.



Bestowing a Curse



The spell Bestow Curse utilizes similar removal techniques to this particular curse. The listed removal techniques for this spell are Remove Curse and Greater Restoration's specific bullet point. However, Dispel Magic seems to remain an option for Bestow Curse where it is may not be an option for this particular curse. That's up to another question to resolve :)



For whether or not Dispel Magic would work on this curse requires determining if Ghaundaur's Curse is a magical effect or not. Based on this question it does appear that it is a magical effect as it is like a spell.






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    As I commented to Mr Spudtastic, it may be worth exploring the "bestow curse" thread from the "curse" piece of the name Ghaunadaur’s curse for the affliction/spell that turns creatures into an ooze. Your call.

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  • @KorvinStarmast Great idea. I've added it - and then realized this generates another question about dispel magic.

    – NautArch
    12 hours ago











  • Naut, all I can do is offer you an evil grin - my work is done here. :)

    – KorvinStarmast
    12 hours ago











  • @KorvinStarmast Here it is. I have a feeling it's obvious, but interesting enough to ask and clarify :)

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By RAW, yes, dropping to 0 hp does end the curse



If the text you gave is, as stated in your comment, the only information given about the curse, then all the normal means of ending a polymorph spell will end the curse.



As quoted,




The curse is like a polymorph spell, except it turns the offender into an ochre jelly that lacks the Split reaction.




Meaning, that it should otherwise be like the Polymorph spell in every way except those that are specifically noted.




A greater restoration or remove curse spell ends this effect.




This doesn't exclude the normal means of ending the spell. It just adds an additional means to end the curse. It still maintains its "like a polymorph spell" status.



To add clarity, you can look at T.J.L.'s answer on this question. To summarize in his words, it's "Additive, Not Exclusive".






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    While I appreciate your reasoning, a lot of NPC abilities and module specific-details are not identical to what's in the PHB, and tend to be "custom made for this module" things. I think that your answer would be improved if you explored the fact that the term "curse" is used in the spell description and show the relationship to the bestow curse spell ... your call.

    – KorvinStarmast
    12 hours ago













  • Yeah, I'll admit, "like a polymorph spell" might not be as far-reaching as I think it is. If that is indeed the case, then Nautarch has provided a good answer for that line of reasoning.

    – MrSpudtastic
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  • Wouldn't the specific mention of "like polymorph" beat the general likeness this effect has with Bestow Curse?

    – R. McMillan
    9 hours ago
















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By RAW, yes, dropping to 0 hp does end the curse



If the text you gave is, as stated in your comment, the only information given about the curse, then all the normal means of ending a polymorph spell will end the curse.



As quoted,




The curse is like a polymorph spell, except it turns the offender into an ochre jelly that lacks the Split reaction.




Meaning, that it should otherwise be like the Polymorph spell in every way except those that are specifically noted.




A greater restoration or remove curse spell ends this effect.




This doesn't exclude the normal means of ending the spell. It just adds an additional means to end the curse. It still maintains its "like a polymorph spell" status.



To add clarity, you can look at T.J.L.'s answer on this question. To summarize in his words, it's "Additive, Not Exclusive".






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  • 1





    While I appreciate your reasoning, a lot of NPC abilities and module specific-details are not identical to what's in the PHB, and tend to be "custom made for this module" things. I think that your answer would be improved if you explored the fact that the term "curse" is used in the spell description and show the relationship to the bestow curse spell ... your call.

    – KorvinStarmast
    12 hours ago













  • Yeah, I'll admit, "like a polymorph spell" might not be as far-reaching as I think it is. If that is indeed the case, then Nautarch has provided a good answer for that line of reasoning.

    – MrSpudtastic
    12 hours ago











  • Wouldn't the specific mention of "like polymorph" beat the general likeness this effect has with Bestow Curse?

    – R. McMillan
    9 hours ago














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By RAW, yes, dropping to 0 hp does end the curse



If the text you gave is, as stated in your comment, the only information given about the curse, then all the normal means of ending a polymorph spell will end the curse.



As quoted,




The curse is like a polymorph spell, except it turns the offender into an ochre jelly that lacks the Split reaction.




Meaning, that it should otherwise be like the Polymorph spell in every way except those that are specifically noted.




A greater restoration or remove curse spell ends this effect.




This doesn't exclude the normal means of ending the spell. It just adds an additional means to end the curse. It still maintains its "like a polymorph spell" status.



To add clarity, you can look at T.J.L.'s answer on this question. To summarize in his words, it's "Additive, Not Exclusive".






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By RAW, yes, dropping to 0 hp does end the curse



If the text you gave is, as stated in your comment, the only information given about the curse, then all the normal means of ending a polymorph spell will end the curse.



As quoted,




The curse is like a polymorph spell, except it turns the offender into an ochre jelly that lacks the Split reaction.




Meaning, that it should otherwise be like the Polymorph spell in every way except those that are specifically noted.




A greater restoration or remove curse spell ends this effect.




This doesn't exclude the normal means of ending the spell. It just adds an additional means to end the curse. It still maintains its "like a polymorph spell" status.



To add clarity, you can look at T.J.L.'s answer on this question. To summarize in his words, it's "Additive, Not Exclusive".







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    While I appreciate your reasoning, a lot of NPC abilities and module specific-details are not identical to what's in the PHB, and tend to be "custom made for this module" things. I think that your answer would be improved if you explored the fact that the term "curse" is used in the spell description and show the relationship to the bestow curse spell ... your call.

    – KorvinStarmast
    12 hours ago













  • Yeah, I'll admit, "like a polymorph spell" might not be as far-reaching as I think it is. If that is indeed the case, then Nautarch has provided a good answer for that line of reasoning.

    – MrSpudtastic
    12 hours ago











  • Wouldn't the specific mention of "like polymorph" beat the general likeness this effect has with Bestow Curse?

    – R. McMillan
    9 hours ago














  • 1





    While I appreciate your reasoning, a lot of NPC abilities and module specific-details are not identical to what's in the PHB, and tend to be "custom made for this module" things. I think that your answer would be improved if you explored the fact that the term "curse" is used in the spell description and show the relationship to the bestow curse spell ... your call.

    – KorvinStarmast
    12 hours ago













  • Yeah, I'll admit, "like a polymorph spell" might not be as far-reaching as I think it is. If that is indeed the case, then Nautarch has provided a good answer for that line of reasoning.

    – MrSpudtastic
    12 hours ago











  • Wouldn't the specific mention of "like polymorph" beat the general likeness this effect has with Bestow Curse?

    – R. McMillan
    9 hours ago








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While I appreciate your reasoning, a lot of NPC abilities and module specific-details are not identical to what's in the PHB, and tend to be "custom made for this module" things. I think that your answer would be improved if you explored the fact that the term "curse" is used in the spell description and show the relationship to the bestow curse spell ... your call.

– KorvinStarmast
12 hours ago







While I appreciate your reasoning, a lot of NPC abilities and module specific-details are not identical to what's in the PHB, and tend to be "custom made for this module" things. I think that your answer would be improved if you explored the fact that the term "curse" is used in the spell description and show the relationship to the bestow curse spell ... your call.

– KorvinStarmast
12 hours ago















Yeah, I'll admit, "like a polymorph spell" might not be as far-reaching as I think it is. If that is indeed the case, then Nautarch has provided a good answer for that line of reasoning.

– MrSpudtastic
12 hours ago





Yeah, I'll admit, "like a polymorph spell" might not be as far-reaching as I think it is. If that is indeed the case, then Nautarch has provided a good answer for that line of reasoning.

– MrSpudtastic
12 hours ago













Wouldn't the specific mention of "like polymorph" beat the general likeness this effect has with Bestow Curse?

– R. McMillan
9 hours ago





Wouldn't the specific mention of "like polymorph" beat the general likeness this effect has with Bestow Curse?

– R. McMillan
9 hours ago













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No, it is not the spell polymorph



We don't know what "like the polymorph spell" means, but we do know that there are times when a specific mechanic is provided and when something similar is done.



There are many examples of creatures that can "polymorph" but that don't directly associate with the polymorph spell. When that direct mechanic is used, WoTC typically uses language like "as if casting polymorph" with the associated italics. Without the italics and language, I don't think we can assume that it works exactly the same way - especially when there is language on how to remove it that is different from polymorph.



With this curse, we don't know the extent of what the similarity is (other than changing your form and statistics), but we do know that unlike polymorph, the only way to end this is the language in the curse of:




A greater restoration or remove curse spell ends this effect.




That above language is not in the actual spell polymorph, so those are the only things that can end this particular curse and not the standard ways of ending polymorph like HP to 0 or even dispel magic.



Bestowing a Curse



The spell Bestow Curse utilizes similar removal techniques to this particular curse. The listed removal techniques for this spell are Remove Curse and Greater Restoration's specific bullet point. However, Dispel Magic seems to remain an option for Bestow Curse where it is may not be an option for this particular curse. That's up to another question to resolve :)



For whether or not Dispel Magic would work on this curse requires determining if Ghaundaur's Curse is a magical effect or not. Based on this question it does appear that it is a magical effect as it is like a spell.






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    As I commented to Mr Spudtastic, it may be worth exploring the "bestow curse" thread from the "curse" piece of the name Ghaunadaur’s curse for the affliction/spell that turns creatures into an ooze. Your call.

    – KorvinStarmast
    12 hours ago











  • @KorvinStarmast Great idea. I've added it - and then realized this generates another question about dispel magic.

    – NautArch
    12 hours ago











  • Naut, all I can do is offer you an evil grin - my work is done here. :)

    – KorvinStarmast
    12 hours ago











  • @KorvinStarmast Here it is. I have a feeling it's obvious, but interesting enough to ask and clarify :)

    – NautArch
    11 hours ago
















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No, it is not the spell polymorph



We don't know what "like the polymorph spell" means, but we do know that there are times when a specific mechanic is provided and when something similar is done.



There are many examples of creatures that can "polymorph" but that don't directly associate with the polymorph spell. When that direct mechanic is used, WoTC typically uses language like "as if casting polymorph" with the associated italics. Without the italics and language, I don't think we can assume that it works exactly the same way - especially when there is language on how to remove it that is different from polymorph.



With this curse, we don't know the extent of what the similarity is (other than changing your form and statistics), but we do know that unlike polymorph, the only way to end this is the language in the curse of:




A greater restoration or remove curse spell ends this effect.




That above language is not in the actual spell polymorph, so those are the only things that can end this particular curse and not the standard ways of ending polymorph like HP to 0 or even dispel magic.



Bestowing a Curse



The spell Bestow Curse utilizes similar removal techniques to this particular curse. The listed removal techniques for this spell are Remove Curse and Greater Restoration's specific bullet point. However, Dispel Magic seems to remain an option for Bestow Curse where it is may not be an option for this particular curse. That's up to another question to resolve :)



For whether or not Dispel Magic would work on this curse requires determining if Ghaundaur's Curse is a magical effect or not. Based on this question it does appear that it is a magical effect as it is like a spell.






share|improve this answer





















  • 1





    As I commented to Mr Spudtastic, it may be worth exploring the "bestow curse" thread from the "curse" piece of the name Ghaunadaur’s curse for the affliction/spell that turns creatures into an ooze. Your call.

    – KorvinStarmast
    12 hours ago











  • @KorvinStarmast Great idea. I've added it - and then realized this generates another question about dispel magic.

    – NautArch
    12 hours ago











  • Naut, all I can do is offer you an evil grin - my work is done here. :)

    – KorvinStarmast
    12 hours ago











  • @KorvinStarmast Here it is. I have a feeling it's obvious, but interesting enough to ask and clarify :)

    – NautArch
    11 hours ago














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No, it is not the spell polymorph



We don't know what "like the polymorph spell" means, but we do know that there are times when a specific mechanic is provided and when something similar is done.



There are many examples of creatures that can "polymorph" but that don't directly associate with the polymorph spell. When that direct mechanic is used, WoTC typically uses language like "as if casting polymorph" with the associated italics. Without the italics and language, I don't think we can assume that it works exactly the same way - especially when there is language on how to remove it that is different from polymorph.



With this curse, we don't know the extent of what the similarity is (other than changing your form and statistics), but we do know that unlike polymorph, the only way to end this is the language in the curse of:




A greater restoration or remove curse spell ends this effect.




That above language is not in the actual spell polymorph, so those are the only things that can end this particular curse and not the standard ways of ending polymorph like HP to 0 or even dispel magic.



Bestowing a Curse



The spell Bestow Curse utilizes similar removal techniques to this particular curse. The listed removal techniques for this spell are Remove Curse and Greater Restoration's specific bullet point. However, Dispel Magic seems to remain an option for Bestow Curse where it is may not be an option for this particular curse. That's up to another question to resolve :)



For whether or not Dispel Magic would work on this curse requires determining if Ghaundaur's Curse is a magical effect or not. Based on this question it does appear that it is a magical effect as it is like a spell.






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No, it is not the spell polymorph



We don't know what "like the polymorph spell" means, but we do know that there are times when a specific mechanic is provided and when something similar is done.



There are many examples of creatures that can "polymorph" but that don't directly associate with the polymorph spell. When that direct mechanic is used, WoTC typically uses language like "as if casting polymorph" with the associated italics. Without the italics and language, I don't think we can assume that it works exactly the same way - especially when there is language on how to remove it that is different from polymorph.



With this curse, we don't know the extent of what the similarity is (other than changing your form and statistics), but we do know that unlike polymorph, the only way to end this is the language in the curse of:




A greater restoration or remove curse spell ends this effect.




That above language is not in the actual spell polymorph, so those are the only things that can end this particular curse and not the standard ways of ending polymorph like HP to 0 or even dispel magic.



Bestowing a Curse



The spell Bestow Curse utilizes similar removal techniques to this particular curse. The listed removal techniques for this spell are Remove Curse and Greater Restoration's specific bullet point. However, Dispel Magic seems to remain an option for Bestow Curse where it is may not be an option for this particular curse. That's up to another question to resolve :)



For whether or not Dispel Magic would work on this curse requires determining if Ghaundaur's Curse is a magical effect or not. Based on this question it does appear that it is a magical effect as it is like a spell.







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    As I commented to Mr Spudtastic, it may be worth exploring the "bestow curse" thread from the "curse" piece of the name Ghaunadaur’s curse for the affliction/spell that turns creatures into an ooze. Your call.

    – KorvinStarmast
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  • @KorvinStarmast Great idea. I've added it - and then realized this generates another question about dispel magic.

    – NautArch
    12 hours ago











  • Naut, all I can do is offer you an evil grin - my work is done here. :)

    – KorvinStarmast
    12 hours ago











  • @KorvinStarmast Here it is. I have a feeling it's obvious, but interesting enough to ask and clarify :)

    – NautArch
    11 hours ago














  • 1





    As I commented to Mr Spudtastic, it may be worth exploring the "bestow curse" thread from the "curse" piece of the name Ghaunadaur’s curse for the affliction/spell that turns creatures into an ooze. Your call.

    – KorvinStarmast
    12 hours ago











  • @KorvinStarmast Great idea. I've added it - and then realized this generates another question about dispel magic.

    – NautArch
    12 hours ago











  • Naut, all I can do is offer you an evil grin - my work is done here. :)

    – KorvinStarmast
    12 hours ago











  • @KorvinStarmast Here it is. I have a feeling it's obvious, but interesting enough to ask and clarify :)

    – NautArch
    11 hours ago








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As I commented to Mr Spudtastic, it may be worth exploring the "bestow curse" thread from the "curse" piece of the name Ghaunadaur’s curse for the affliction/spell that turns creatures into an ooze. Your call.

– KorvinStarmast
12 hours ago





As I commented to Mr Spudtastic, it may be worth exploring the "bestow curse" thread from the "curse" piece of the name Ghaunadaur’s curse for the affliction/spell that turns creatures into an ooze. Your call.

– KorvinStarmast
12 hours ago













@KorvinStarmast Great idea. I've added it - and then realized this generates another question about dispel magic.

– NautArch
12 hours ago





@KorvinStarmast Great idea. I've added it - and then realized this generates another question about dispel magic.

– NautArch
12 hours ago













Naut, all I can do is offer you an evil grin - my work is done here. :)

– KorvinStarmast
12 hours ago





Naut, all I can do is offer you an evil grin - my work is done here. :)

– KorvinStarmast
12 hours ago













@KorvinStarmast Here it is. I have a feeling it's obvious, but interesting enough to ask and clarify :)

– NautArch
11 hours ago





@KorvinStarmast Here it is. I have a feeling it's obvious, but interesting enough to ask and clarify :)

– NautArch
11 hours ago


















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