A function that is continuous almost everywhere is Lebesgue measurable
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If $f: E to mathfrak{M}$ (where $mathfrak{M}$ is the Lebesgue measurable sets) is continuous a.e., is it true that $f$ is Lebesgue measurable?
I know that continuous functions on $E in mathfrak{M}$ are Lebesgue measurable, but I am wondering if this can be extended to functions that are continuous a.e.?
My intuition is that the answer is yes.
Let $D = {x in E: f(x) text{ discontinuous}}$ and $alpha in mathbb{R}$. Then:
$f^{-1}((-infty, alpha)) = (({x in E: f(x) < alpha} setminus D) cup ({x in E: f(x) < alpha} cap D))$
The second set is a subset of $D$, which has measure 0, so it is measurable. But is the first set also measurable? Is there any easier way to prove (or disprove) the statement?
real-analysis analysis measure-theory lebesgue-measure
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If $f: E to mathfrak{M}$ (where $mathfrak{M}$ is the Lebesgue measurable sets) is continuous a.e., is it true that $f$ is Lebesgue measurable?
I know that continuous functions on $E in mathfrak{M}$ are Lebesgue measurable, but I am wondering if this can be extended to functions that are continuous a.e.?
My intuition is that the answer is yes.
Let $D = {x in E: f(x) text{ discontinuous}}$ and $alpha in mathbb{R}$. Then:
$f^{-1}((-infty, alpha)) = (({x in E: f(x) < alpha} setminus D) cup ({x in E: f(x) < alpha} cap D))$
The second set is a subset of $D$, which has measure 0, so it is measurable. But is the first set also measurable? Is there any easier way to prove (or disprove) the statement?
real-analysis analysis measure-theory lebesgue-measure
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The first set is of the form $mathcal{O} setminus (D cap mathcal{O})$ where $mathcal{O}$ is open, and $D cap mathcal{O}$ is a subset of a set of measure zero.
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– T. Bongers
Dec 13 '18 at 1:41
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@T.Bongers ${x in E : f(x) < alpha}$ is not open necessarily
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– mathworker21
Dec 13 '18 at 1:43
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@T.Bongers there’s no reason why the first one should necessarily be open. If $f$ is the 0 function on $[0,1]$ then it is continuous and for any positive $alpha$, ${x in [0,1] : f(x) < alpha} = [0,1]$.
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– TuringTester69
Dec 13 '18 at 1:46
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If $f: E to mathfrak{M}$ (where $mathfrak{M}$ is the Lebesgue measurable sets) is continuous a.e., is it true that $f$ is Lebesgue measurable?
I know that continuous functions on $E in mathfrak{M}$ are Lebesgue measurable, but I am wondering if this can be extended to functions that are continuous a.e.?
My intuition is that the answer is yes.
Let $D = {x in E: f(x) text{ discontinuous}}$ and $alpha in mathbb{R}$. Then:
$f^{-1}((-infty, alpha)) = (({x in E: f(x) < alpha} setminus D) cup ({x in E: f(x) < alpha} cap D))$
The second set is a subset of $D$, which has measure 0, so it is measurable. But is the first set also measurable? Is there any easier way to prove (or disprove) the statement?
real-analysis analysis measure-theory lebesgue-measure
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If $f: E to mathfrak{M}$ (where $mathfrak{M}$ is the Lebesgue measurable sets) is continuous a.e., is it true that $f$ is Lebesgue measurable?
I know that continuous functions on $E in mathfrak{M}$ are Lebesgue measurable, but I am wondering if this can be extended to functions that are continuous a.e.?
My intuition is that the answer is yes.
Let $D = {x in E: f(x) text{ discontinuous}}$ and $alpha in mathbb{R}$. Then:
$f^{-1}((-infty, alpha)) = (({x in E: f(x) < alpha} setminus D) cup ({x in E: f(x) < alpha} cap D))$
The second set is a subset of $D$, which has measure 0, so it is measurable. But is the first set also measurable? Is there any easier way to prove (or disprove) the statement?
real-analysis analysis measure-theory lebesgue-measure
real-analysis analysis measure-theory lebesgue-measure
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The first set is of the form $mathcal{O} setminus (D cap mathcal{O})$ where $mathcal{O}$ is open, and $D cap mathcal{O}$ is a subset of a set of measure zero.
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– T. Bongers
Dec 13 '18 at 1:41
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@T.Bongers ${x in E : f(x) < alpha}$ is not open necessarily
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– mathworker21
Dec 13 '18 at 1:43
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@T.Bongers there’s no reason why the first one should necessarily be open. If $f$ is the 0 function on $[0,1]$ then it is continuous and for any positive $alpha$, ${x in [0,1] : f(x) < alpha} = [0,1]$.
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– TuringTester69
Dec 13 '18 at 1:46
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The first set is of the form $mathcal{O} setminus (D cap mathcal{O})$ where $mathcal{O}$ is open, and $D cap mathcal{O}$ is a subset of a set of measure zero.
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– T. Bongers
Dec 13 '18 at 1:41
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@T.Bongers ${x in E : f(x) < alpha}$ is not open necessarily
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– mathworker21
Dec 13 '18 at 1:43
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@T.Bongers there’s no reason why the first one should necessarily be open. If $f$ is the 0 function on $[0,1]$ then it is continuous and for any positive $alpha$, ${x in [0,1] : f(x) < alpha} = [0,1]$.
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– TuringTester69
Dec 13 '18 at 1:46
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The first set is of the form $mathcal{O} setminus (D cap mathcal{O})$ where $mathcal{O}$ is open, and $D cap mathcal{O}$ is a subset of a set of measure zero.
$endgroup$
– T. Bongers
Dec 13 '18 at 1:41
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The first set is of the form $mathcal{O} setminus (D cap mathcal{O})$ where $mathcal{O}$ is open, and $D cap mathcal{O}$ is a subset of a set of measure zero.
$endgroup$
– T. Bongers
Dec 13 '18 at 1:41
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@T.Bongers ${x in E : f(x) < alpha}$ is not open necessarily
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– mathworker21
Dec 13 '18 at 1:43
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@T.Bongers ${x in E : f(x) < alpha}$ is not open necessarily
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– mathworker21
Dec 13 '18 at 1:43
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@T.Bongers there’s no reason why the first one should necessarily be open. If $f$ is the 0 function on $[0,1]$ then it is continuous and for any positive $alpha$, ${x in [0,1] : f(x) < alpha} = [0,1]$.
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– TuringTester69
Dec 13 '18 at 1:46
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@T.Bongers there’s no reason why the first one should necessarily be open. If $f$ is the 0 function on $[0,1]$ then it is continuous and for any positive $alpha$, ${x in [0,1] : f(x) < alpha} = [0,1]$.
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The first set is open, hence measurable.
Edit: indeed, the first set is not open.
However, let us denote $S_1$ the first set, $S_2$ the second one, $S=S_1 cup S_2$. Then $S_2$ has null measure and $S_1 subset S’ subset S=S_1 cup S_2$ where $S’$ is the interior of $S$.
So $S$ has symmetric difference of null measure with its interior, thus is measurable.
Edit2: Let $x in S_1$. Then $f(x) < alpha$ and $f$ is continuous at $x$. Thus, there exists an open interval $J$ containing $x$ such that if $y in J$, $f(y) < alpha$, hence $x in J subset S$, and since $J$ is open, $x in S’$.
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wrong that it's open
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– mathworker21
Dec 13 '18 at 1:37
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Is it? Maybe I’m missing something but that doesn’t seem obvious to me.
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– TuringTester69
Dec 13 '18 at 1:37
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You are right, I am editing.
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– Mindlack
Dec 13 '18 at 1:39
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+1 nice :)......
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The first set is open, hence measurable.
Edit: indeed, the first set is not open.
However, let us denote $S_1$ the first set, $S_2$ the second one, $S=S_1 cup S_2$. Then $S_2$ has null measure and $S_1 subset S’ subset S=S_1 cup S_2$ where $S’$ is the interior of $S$.
So $S$ has symmetric difference of null measure with its interior, thus is measurable.
Edit2: Let $x in S_1$. Then $f(x) < alpha$ and $f$ is continuous at $x$. Thus, there exists an open interval $J$ containing $x$ such that if $y in J$, $f(y) < alpha$, hence $x in J subset S$, and since $J$ is open, $x in S’$.
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wrong that it's open
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– mathworker21
Dec 13 '18 at 1:37
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Is it? Maybe I’m missing something but that doesn’t seem obvious to me.
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– TuringTester69
Dec 13 '18 at 1:37
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You are right, I am editing.
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– Mindlack
Dec 13 '18 at 1:39
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+1 nice :)......
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The first set is open, hence measurable.
Edit: indeed, the first set is not open.
However, let us denote $S_1$ the first set, $S_2$ the second one, $S=S_1 cup S_2$. Then $S_2$ has null measure and $S_1 subset S’ subset S=S_1 cup S_2$ where $S’$ is the interior of $S$.
So $S$ has symmetric difference of null measure with its interior, thus is measurable.
Edit2: Let $x in S_1$. Then $f(x) < alpha$ and $f$ is continuous at $x$. Thus, there exists an open interval $J$ containing $x$ such that if $y in J$, $f(y) < alpha$, hence $x in J subset S$, and since $J$ is open, $x in S’$.
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wrong that it's open
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– mathworker21
Dec 13 '18 at 1:37
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Is it? Maybe I’m missing something but that doesn’t seem obvious to me.
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– TuringTester69
Dec 13 '18 at 1:37
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You are right, I am editing.
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– Mindlack
Dec 13 '18 at 1:39
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+1 nice :)......
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– mathworker21
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The first set is open, hence measurable.
Edit: indeed, the first set is not open.
However, let us denote $S_1$ the first set, $S_2$ the second one, $S=S_1 cup S_2$. Then $S_2$ has null measure and $S_1 subset S’ subset S=S_1 cup S_2$ where $S’$ is the interior of $S$.
So $S$ has symmetric difference of null measure with its interior, thus is measurable.
Edit2: Let $x in S_1$. Then $f(x) < alpha$ and $f$ is continuous at $x$. Thus, there exists an open interval $J$ containing $x$ such that if $y in J$, $f(y) < alpha$, hence $x in J subset S$, and since $J$ is open, $x in S’$.
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The first set is open, hence measurable.
Edit: indeed, the first set is not open.
However, let us denote $S_1$ the first set, $S_2$ the second one, $S=S_1 cup S_2$. Then $S_2$ has null measure and $S_1 subset S’ subset S=S_1 cup S_2$ where $S’$ is the interior of $S$.
So $S$ has symmetric difference of null measure with its interior, thus is measurable.
Edit2: Let $x in S_1$. Then $f(x) < alpha$ and $f$ is continuous at $x$. Thus, there exists an open interval $J$ containing $x$ such that if $y in J$, $f(y) < alpha$, hence $x in J subset S$, and since $J$ is open, $x in S’$.
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answered Dec 13 '18 at 1:36
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wrong that it's open
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– mathworker21
Dec 13 '18 at 1:37
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Is it? Maybe I’m missing something but that doesn’t seem obvious to me.
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– TuringTester69
Dec 13 '18 at 1:37
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You are right, I am editing.
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– Mindlack
Dec 13 '18 at 1:39
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+1 nice :)......
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– mathworker21
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wrong that it's open
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– mathworker21
Dec 13 '18 at 1:37
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Is it? Maybe I’m missing something but that doesn’t seem obvious to me.
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– TuringTester69
Dec 13 '18 at 1:37
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You are right, I am editing.
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– Mindlack
Dec 13 '18 at 1:39
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+1 nice :)......
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– mathworker21
Dec 13 '18 at 1:47
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wrong that it's open
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– mathworker21
Dec 13 '18 at 1:37
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wrong that it's open
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– mathworker21
Dec 13 '18 at 1:37
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Is it? Maybe I’m missing something but that doesn’t seem obvious to me.
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– TuringTester69
Dec 13 '18 at 1:37
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Is it? Maybe I’m missing something but that doesn’t seem obvious to me.
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– TuringTester69
Dec 13 '18 at 1:37
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You are right, I am editing.
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– Mindlack
Dec 13 '18 at 1:39
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You are right, I am editing.
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– Mindlack
Dec 13 '18 at 1:39
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+1 nice :)......
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– mathworker21
Dec 13 '18 at 1:47
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+1 nice :)......
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– mathworker21
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The first set is of the form $mathcal{O} setminus (D cap mathcal{O})$ where $mathcal{O}$ is open, and $D cap mathcal{O}$ is a subset of a set of measure zero.
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– T. Bongers
Dec 13 '18 at 1:41
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@T.Bongers ${x in E : f(x) < alpha}$ is not open necessarily
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– mathworker21
Dec 13 '18 at 1:43
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@T.Bongers there’s no reason why the first one should necessarily be open. If $f$ is the 0 function on $[0,1]$ then it is continuous and for any positive $alpha$, ${x in [0,1] : f(x) < alpha} = [0,1]$.
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– TuringTester69
Dec 13 '18 at 1:46