How strictly should I take “Candidates must be local”?
I've encountered a number of non-local job postings that contain lines of the form:
Candidates must be local to <LOCATION>. No relocation fees will be provided.
Assuming that the second sentence is the justification for the first, how strictly should I take this? That is, if I am able & willing to pay my own relocation expenses, would it still be inappropriate for me to apply? Should I mention my willingness to pay my own expenses in my cover letter?
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I've encountered a number of non-local job postings that contain lines of the form:
Candidates must be local to <LOCATION>. No relocation fees will be provided.
Assuming that the second sentence is the justification for the first, how strictly should I take this? That is, if I am able & willing to pay my own relocation expenses, would it still be inappropriate for me to apply? Should I mention my willingness to pay my own expenses in my cover letter?
united-states job-description relocation
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Inappropriate, not at all. And the more details you add, the better chance of resume actually, if not automated, reaching right person. i.e. I like local because...I understand I will need to pay own expenses. i.e. Why are you willing to relocate? The company, the place, family, all of the above...Because the hiring company ask many questions and more.
– paulj
2 hours ago
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They may also not willing to pay for interview travel expenses, so you may have to get yourself to any interview on your own dime.
– Hilmar
2 hours ago
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There's no harm in applying. The worst they'll say is no but you won't know unless you apply.
– Dan
1 hour ago
That there are legal requirements in some cases that companies (attempt to) hire local workers according to certain fixed criteria. If that is what is happening here, your application may be ignored. But it's not that common, and in any case, there's no harm in trying.
– Richard Rast
1 hour ago
What country is this? Is the job in the same country as you are currently living, and if not do you have a right to work in the country the job is in?
– thelem
1 hour ago
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I've encountered a number of non-local job postings that contain lines of the form:
Candidates must be local to <LOCATION>. No relocation fees will be provided.
Assuming that the second sentence is the justification for the first, how strictly should I take this? That is, if I am able & willing to pay my own relocation expenses, would it still be inappropriate for me to apply? Should I mention my willingness to pay my own expenses in my cover letter?
united-states job-description relocation
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I've encountered a number of non-local job postings that contain lines of the form:
Candidates must be local to <LOCATION>. No relocation fees will be provided.
Assuming that the second sentence is the justification for the first, how strictly should I take this? That is, if I am able & willing to pay my own relocation expenses, would it still be inappropriate for me to apply? Should I mention my willingness to pay my own expenses in my cover letter?
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Inappropriate, not at all. And the more details you add, the better chance of resume actually, if not automated, reaching right person. i.e. I like local because...I understand I will need to pay own expenses. i.e. Why are you willing to relocate? The company, the place, family, all of the above...Because the hiring company ask many questions and more.
– paulj
2 hours ago
4
They may also not willing to pay for interview travel expenses, so you may have to get yourself to any interview on your own dime.
– Hilmar
2 hours ago
2
There's no harm in applying. The worst they'll say is no but you won't know unless you apply.
– Dan
1 hour ago
That there are legal requirements in some cases that companies (attempt to) hire local workers according to certain fixed criteria. If that is what is happening here, your application may be ignored. But it's not that common, and in any case, there's no harm in trying.
– Richard Rast
1 hour ago
What country is this? Is the job in the same country as you are currently living, and if not do you have a right to work in the country the job is in?
– thelem
1 hour ago
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Inappropriate, not at all. And the more details you add, the better chance of resume actually, if not automated, reaching right person. i.e. I like local because...I understand I will need to pay own expenses. i.e. Why are you willing to relocate? The company, the place, family, all of the above...Because the hiring company ask many questions and more.
– paulj
2 hours ago
4
They may also not willing to pay for interview travel expenses, so you may have to get yourself to any interview on your own dime.
– Hilmar
2 hours ago
2
There's no harm in applying. The worst they'll say is no but you won't know unless you apply.
– Dan
1 hour ago
That there are legal requirements in some cases that companies (attempt to) hire local workers according to certain fixed criteria. If that is what is happening here, your application may be ignored. But it's not that common, and in any case, there's no harm in trying.
– Richard Rast
1 hour ago
What country is this? Is the job in the same country as you are currently living, and if not do you have a right to work in the country the job is in?
– thelem
1 hour ago
2
2
Inappropriate, not at all. And the more details you add, the better chance of resume actually, if not automated, reaching right person. i.e. I like local because...I understand I will need to pay own expenses. i.e. Why are you willing to relocate? The company, the place, family, all of the above...Because the hiring company ask many questions and more.
– paulj
2 hours ago
Inappropriate, not at all. And the more details you add, the better chance of resume actually, if not automated, reaching right person. i.e. I like local because...I understand I will need to pay own expenses. i.e. Why are you willing to relocate? The company, the place, family, all of the above...Because the hiring company ask many questions and more.
– paulj
2 hours ago
4
4
They may also not willing to pay for interview travel expenses, so you may have to get yourself to any interview on your own dime.
– Hilmar
2 hours ago
They may also not willing to pay for interview travel expenses, so you may have to get yourself to any interview on your own dime.
– Hilmar
2 hours ago
2
2
There's no harm in applying. The worst they'll say is no but you won't know unless you apply.
– Dan
1 hour ago
There's no harm in applying. The worst they'll say is no but you won't know unless you apply.
– Dan
1 hour ago
That there are legal requirements in some cases that companies (attempt to) hire local workers according to certain fixed criteria. If that is what is happening here, your application may be ignored. But it's not that common, and in any case, there's no harm in trying.
– Richard Rast
1 hour ago
That there are legal requirements in some cases that companies (attempt to) hire local workers according to certain fixed criteria. If that is what is happening here, your application may be ignored. But it's not that common, and in any case, there's no harm in trying.
– Richard Rast
1 hour ago
What country is this? Is the job in the same country as you are currently living, and if not do you have a right to work in the country the job is in?
– thelem
1 hour ago
What country is this? Is the job in the same country as you are currently living, and if not do you have a right to work in the country the job is in?
– thelem
1 hour ago
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The general rule I follow for applying for jobs is that if I want it, I apply without worrying about minor things that might not work out. I would recommend you follow that here as well.
Specifically, it seems really unlikely that they'll care that you're remote if you are willing to pay the relocation expenses. The only sticking point I can think of is they may want in-person interviews and may be unwilling to pay for you to travel to interview there.
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It means no visa sponsorship and no relocation fees. If you're willing to relocate on your own dime, they don't have a problem with it. You can even mention to them that you'd be willing to have written into your contract, as a condition of employment, to relocate on your own within X miles of their location.
But no, it's never inappropriate to apply for a job that says "local" if you are willing and able to move on your own dime. The worst they will say is "no"
7
Not always the case. I've applied for jobs in Hawaii and been told (by multiple companies) they don't consider people from the mainland because too many times people can't handle the isolation and leave.
– corsiKa
1 hour ago
4
@corsiKa that's a pretty unique example. There are very very few universal answers
– Richard U
1 hour ago
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They're not trying to enforce that all candidates come from LOCATION. The company wants you to work from LOCATION, and they don't want to pay to get you there. If you can fulfill both of those criteria, and it sounds like you can, then it is entirely appropriate for you to apply.
add a comment |
Should I mention my willingness to pay my own expenses in my cover letter?
No. Don't bring this up. They don't care, and those who will do the initial selection of resumes aren't interested in that at all.
In many cases, they won't care where you are actually living (unless you have specific jobs where you are required to be in the office within X minutes during "on call" time, but that should be clear from the job description). It's just that they won't do relocation. But whether you solve that problem by paying for relocation yourself, or having a 3 hour commute should not matter.
It does mean though that you shouldn't bring up relocation fees during the hiring process. Bringing that up will just make them say "which part of 'no relocation fees' did you fail to understand" (although probably phrased a bit more friendly).
Just apply. The worst that will happen is that they won't hire you. Which they certainly won't do if you don't apply.
add a comment |
This is as much about relocation / accommodation costs as it is often about visa requirements.
If you're allowed to work in the country and are willing to pay the afforementioned costs it should be fine.
Be prepared though, it might still automatically ignored.
add a comment |
This means the company is looking to hire someone to work out of their office.
I see two potential problems hiring someone who doesn't already live locally:
- It will cost money to relocate. The company is saying in the advert
that they will not cover this cost. You are happy with that, so this should not be an issue. - It will take time to relocate. This may delay your start date or
mean you are not as focussed as you could be when you start (e.g. if
you are unable to relocate before your start date and have to
temporarily stay in a hotel or have an excessively long commute).
This puts you at a small disadvantage compared to a local candidate. If there are lots of candidates for the role it may mean you get excluded at the screening stage, but if you are selected for interview your location is unlikely to be an issue.
When I am hiring I would ask my recruiter to discuss your relocation plans before I invited you for interview. You can shortcut this by including them in your cover letter, especially if you have already started the relocation process. If you don't then your application might be filtered out by the recruiter before the hiring manager has seen it, but even if that happens you haven't lost anything except the time taken to apply, so go ahead and apply for those roles.
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The general rule I follow for applying for jobs is that if I want it, I apply without worrying about minor things that might not work out. I would recommend you follow that here as well.
Specifically, it seems really unlikely that they'll care that you're remote if you are willing to pay the relocation expenses. The only sticking point I can think of is they may want in-person interviews and may be unwilling to pay for you to travel to interview there.
add a comment |
The general rule I follow for applying for jobs is that if I want it, I apply without worrying about minor things that might not work out. I would recommend you follow that here as well.
Specifically, it seems really unlikely that they'll care that you're remote if you are willing to pay the relocation expenses. The only sticking point I can think of is they may want in-person interviews and may be unwilling to pay for you to travel to interview there.
add a comment |
The general rule I follow for applying for jobs is that if I want it, I apply without worrying about minor things that might not work out. I would recommend you follow that here as well.
Specifically, it seems really unlikely that they'll care that you're remote if you are willing to pay the relocation expenses. The only sticking point I can think of is they may want in-person interviews and may be unwilling to pay for you to travel to interview there.
The general rule I follow for applying for jobs is that if I want it, I apply without worrying about minor things that might not work out. I would recommend you follow that here as well.
Specifically, it seems really unlikely that they'll care that you're remote if you are willing to pay the relocation expenses. The only sticking point I can think of is they may want in-person interviews and may be unwilling to pay for you to travel to interview there.
answered 2 hours ago
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It means no visa sponsorship and no relocation fees. If you're willing to relocate on your own dime, they don't have a problem with it. You can even mention to them that you'd be willing to have written into your contract, as a condition of employment, to relocate on your own within X miles of their location.
But no, it's never inappropriate to apply for a job that says "local" if you are willing and able to move on your own dime. The worst they will say is "no"
7
Not always the case. I've applied for jobs in Hawaii and been told (by multiple companies) they don't consider people from the mainland because too many times people can't handle the isolation and leave.
– corsiKa
1 hour ago
4
@corsiKa that's a pretty unique example. There are very very few universal answers
– Richard U
1 hour ago
add a comment |
It means no visa sponsorship and no relocation fees. If you're willing to relocate on your own dime, they don't have a problem with it. You can even mention to them that you'd be willing to have written into your contract, as a condition of employment, to relocate on your own within X miles of their location.
But no, it's never inappropriate to apply for a job that says "local" if you are willing and able to move on your own dime. The worst they will say is "no"
7
Not always the case. I've applied for jobs in Hawaii and been told (by multiple companies) they don't consider people from the mainland because too many times people can't handle the isolation and leave.
– corsiKa
1 hour ago
4
@corsiKa that's a pretty unique example. There are very very few universal answers
– Richard U
1 hour ago
add a comment |
It means no visa sponsorship and no relocation fees. If you're willing to relocate on your own dime, they don't have a problem with it. You can even mention to them that you'd be willing to have written into your contract, as a condition of employment, to relocate on your own within X miles of their location.
But no, it's never inappropriate to apply for a job that says "local" if you are willing and able to move on your own dime. The worst they will say is "no"
It means no visa sponsorship and no relocation fees. If you're willing to relocate on your own dime, they don't have a problem with it. You can even mention to them that you'd be willing to have written into your contract, as a condition of employment, to relocate on your own within X miles of their location.
But no, it's never inappropriate to apply for a job that says "local" if you are willing and able to move on your own dime. The worst they will say is "no"
answered 2 hours ago
Richard URichard U
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Not always the case. I've applied for jobs in Hawaii and been told (by multiple companies) they don't consider people from the mainland because too many times people can't handle the isolation and leave.
– corsiKa
1 hour ago
4
@corsiKa that's a pretty unique example. There are very very few universal answers
– Richard U
1 hour ago
add a comment |
7
Not always the case. I've applied for jobs in Hawaii and been told (by multiple companies) they don't consider people from the mainland because too many times people can't handle the isolation and leave.
– corsiKa
1 hour ago
4
@corsiKa that's a pretty unique example. There are very very few universal answers
– Richard U
1 hour ago
7
7
Not always the case. I've applied for jobs in Hawaii and been told (by multiple companies) they don't consider people from the mainland because too many times people can't handle the isolation and leave.
– corsiKa
1 hour ago
Not always the case. I've applied for jobs in Hawaii and been told (by multiple companies) they don't consider people from the mainland because too many times people can't handle the isolation and leave.
– corsiKa
1 hour ago
4
4
@corsiKa that's a pretty unique example. There are very very few universal answers
– Richard U
1 hour ago
@corsiKa that's a pretty unique example. There are very very few universal answers
– Richard U
1 hour ago
add a comment |
They're not trying to enforce that all candidates come from LOCATION. The company wants you to work from LOCATION, and they don't want to pay to get you there. If you can fulfill both of those criteria, and it sounds like you can, then it is entirely appropriate for you to apply.
add a comment |
They're not trying to enforce that all candidates come from LOCATION. The company wants you to work from LOCATION, and they don't want to pay to get you there. If you can fulfill both of those criteria, and it sounds like you can, then it is entirely appropriate for you to apply.
add a comment |
They're not trying to enforce that all candidates come from LOCATION. The company wants you to work from LOCATION, and they don't want to pay to get you there. If you can fulfill both of those criteria, and it sounds like you can, then it is entirely appropriate for you to apply.
They're not trying to enforce that all candidates come from LOCATION. The company wants you to work from LOCATION, and they don't want to pay to get you there. If you can fulfill both of those criteria, and it sounds like you can, then it is entirely appropriate for you to apply.
answered 2 hours ago
TheSoundDefenseTheSoundDefense
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Should I mention my willingness to pay my own expenses in my cover letter?
No. Don't bring this up. They don't care, and those who will do the initial selection of resumes aren't interested in that at all.
In many cases, they won't care where you are actually living (unless you have specific jobs where you are required to be in the office within X minutes during "on call" time, but that should be clear from the job description). It's just that they won't do relocation. But whether you solve that problem by paying for relocation yourself, or having a 3 hour commute should not matter.
It does mean though that you shouldn't bring up relocation fees during the hiring process. Bringing that up will just make them say "which part of 'no relocation fees' did you fail to understand" (although probably phrased a bit more friendly).
Just apply. The worst that will happen is that they won't hire you. Which they certainly won't do if you don't apply.
add a comment |
Should I mention my willingness to pay my own expenses in my cover letter?
No. Don't bring this up. They don't care, and those who will do the initial selection of resumes aren't interested in that at all.
In many cases, they won't care where you are actually living (unless you have specific jobs where you are required to be in the office within X minutes during "on call" time, but that should be clear from the job description). It's just that they won't do relocation. But whether you solve that problem by paying for relocation yourself, or having a 3 hour commute should not matter.
It does mean though that you shouldn't bring up relocation fees during the hiring process. Bringing that up will just make them say "which part of 'no relocation fees' did you fail to understand" (although probably phrased a bit more friendly).
Just apply. The worst that will happen is that they won't hire you. Which they certainly won't do if you don't apply.
add a comment |
Should I mention my willingness to pay my own expenses in my cover letter?
No. Don't bring this up. They don't care, and those who will do the initial selection of resumes aren't interested in that at all.
In many cases, they won't care where you are actually living (unless you have specific jobs where you are required to be in the office within X minutes during "on call" time, but that should be clear from the job description). It's just that they won't do relocation. But whether you solve that problem by paying for relocation yourself, or having a 3 hour commute should not matter.
It does mean though that you shouldn't bring up relocation fees during the hiring process. Bringing that up will just make them say "which part of 'no relocation fees' did you fail to understand" (although probably phrased a bit more friendly).
Just apply. The worst that will happen is that they won't hire you. Which they certainly won't do if you don't apply.
Should I mention my willingness to pay my own expenses in my cover letter?
No. Don't bring this up. They don't care, and those who will do the initial selection of resumes aren't interested in that at all.
In many cases, they won't care where you are actually living (unless you have specific jobs where you are required to be in the office within X minutes during "on call" time, but that should be clear from the job description). It's just that they won't do relocation. But whether you solve that problem by paying for relocation yourself, or having a 3 hour commute should not matter.
It does mean though that you shouldn't bring up relocation fees during the hiring process. Bringing that up will just make them say "which part of 'no relocation fees' did you fail to understand" (although probably phrased a bit more friendly).
Just apply. The worst that will happen is that they won't hire you. Which they certainly won't do if you don't apply.
answered 1 hour ago
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This is as much about relocation / accommodation costs as it is often about visa requirements.
If you're allowed to work in the country and are willing to pay the afforementioned costs it should be fine.
Be prepared though, it might still automatically ignored.
add a comment |
This is as much about relocation / accommodation costs as it is often about visa requirements.
If you're allowed to work in the country and are willing to pay the afforementioned costs it should be fine.
Be prepared though, it might still automatically ignored.
add a comment |
This is as much about relocation / accommodation costs as it is often about visa requirements.
If you're allowed to work in the country and are willing to pay the afforementioned costs it should be fine.
Be prepared though, it might still automatically ignored.
This is as much about relocation / accommodation costs as it is often about visa requirements.
If you're allowed to work in the country and are willing to pay the afforementioned costs it should be fine.
Be prepared though, it might still automatically ignored.
answered 2 hours ago
DigitalBlade969DigitalBlade969
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This means the company is looking to hire someone to work out of their office.
I see two potential problems hiring someone who doesn't already live locally:
- It will cost money to relocate. The company is saying in the advert
that they will not cover this cost. You are happy with that, so this should not be an issue. - It will take time to relocate. This may delay your start date or
mean you are not as focussed as you could be when you start (e.g. if
you are unable to relocate before your start date and have to
temporarily stay in a hotel or have an excessively long commute).
This puts you at a small disadvantage compared to a local candidate. If there are lots of candidates for the role it may mean you get excluded at the screening stage, but if you are selected for interview your location is unlikely to be an issue.
When I am hiring I would ask my recruiter to discuss your relocation plans before I invited you for interview. You can shortcut this by including them in your cover letter, especially if you have already started the relocation process. If you don't then your application might be filtered out by the recruiter before the hiring manager has seen it, but even if that happens you haven't lost anything except the time taken to apply, so go ahead and apply for those roles.
add a comment |
This means the company is looking to hire someone to work out of their office.
I see two potential problems hiring someone who doesn't already live locally:
- It will cost money to relocate. The company is saying in the advert
that they will not cover this cost. You are happy with that, so this should not be an issue. - It will take time to relocate. This may delay your start date or
mean you are not as focussed as you could be when you start (e.g. if
you are unable to relocate before your start date and have to
temporarily stay in a hotel or have an excessively long commute).
This puts you at a small disadvantage compared to a local candidate. If there are lots of candidates for the role it may mean you get excluded at the screening stage, but if you are selected for interview your location is unlikely to be an issue.
When I am hiring I would ask my recruiter to discuss your relocation plans before I invited you for interview. You can shortcut this by including them in your cover letter, especially if you have already started the relocation process. If you don't then your application might be filtered out by the recruiter before the hiring manager has seen it, but even if that happens you haven't lost anything except the time taken to apply, so go ahead and apply for those roles.
add a comment |
This means the company is looking to hire someone to work out of their office.
I see two potential problems hiring someone who doesn't already live locally:
- It will cost money to relocate. The company is saying in the advert
that they will not cover this cost. You are happy with that, so this should not be an issue. - It will take time to relocate. This may delay your start date or
mean you are not as focussed as you could be when you start (e.g. if
you are unable to relocate before your start date and have to
temporarily stay in a hotel or have an excessively long commute).
This puts you at a small disadvantage compared to a local candidate. If there are lots of candidates for the role it may mean you get excluded at the screening stage, but if you are selected for interview your location is unlikely to be an issue.
When I am hiring I would ask my recruiter to discuss your relocation plans before I invited you for interview. You can shortcut this by including them in your cover letter, especially if you have already started the relocation process. If you don't then your application might be filtered out by the recruiter before the hiring manager has seen it, but even if that happens you haven't lost anything except the time taken to apply, so go ahead and apply for those roles.
This means the company is looking to hire someone to work out of their office.
I see two potential problems hiring someone who doesn't already live locally:
- It will cost money to relocate. The company is saying in the advert
that they will not cover this cost. You are happy with that, so this should not be an issue. - It will take time to relocate. This may delay your start date or
mean you are not as focussed as you could be when you start (e.g. if
you are unable to relocate before your start date and have to
temporarily stay in a hotel or have an excessively long commute).
This puts you at a small disadvantage compared to a local candidate. If there are lots of candidates for the role it may mean you get excluded at the screening stage, but if you are selected for interview your location is unlikely to be an issue.
When I am hiring I would ask my recruiter to discuss your relocation plans before I invited you for interview. You can shortcut this by including them in your cover letter, especially if you have already started the relocation process. If you don't then your application might be filtered out by the recruiter before the hiring manager has seen it, but even if that happens you haven't lost anything except the time taken to apply, so go ahead and apply for those roles.
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Inappropriate, not at all. And the more details you add, the better chance of resume actually, if not automated, reaching right person. i.e. I like local because...I understand I will need to pay own expenses. i.e. Why are you willing to relocate? The company, the place, family, all of the above...Because the hiring company ask many questions and more.
– paulj
2 hours ago
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They may also not willing to pay for interview travel expenses, so you may have to get yourself to any interview on your own dime.
– Hilmar
2 hours ago
2
There's no harm in applying. The worst they'll say is no but you won't know unless you apply.
– Dan
1 hour ago
That there are legal requirements in some cases that companies (attempt to) hire local workers according to certain fixed criteria. If that is what is happening here, your application may be ignored. But it's not that common, and in any case, there's no harm in trying.
– Richard Rast
1 hour ago
What country is this? Is the job in the same country as you are currently living, and if not do you have a right to work in the country the job is in?
– thelem
1 hour ago