Was Luke Skywalker the leader of the Rebel forces on Hoth?
Rewatching Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back, I noticed the opening crawl declares Luke Skywalker as the leader of the Rebel forces on Hoth:
Evading the dreaded Imperial Starfleet, a group of freedom fighters
led by Luke Skywalker has established a new secret base on the remote
ice world of Hoth.
Is that correct? I though Princess Leia or General Rieekan commanded the Rebel base on Hoth.
I can't find any references to this discrepancy on the Internet. Maybe in an earlier version of the script, Luke Skywalker was the commander and the crawl wasn't updated. Or perhaps "led" is meant in the sense Luke was a moral leader of the Rebel fighters?
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Rewatching Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back, I noticed the opening crawl declares Luke Skywalker as the leader of the Rebel forces on Hoth:
Evading the dreaded Imperial Starfleet, a group of freedom fighters
led by Luke Skywalker has established a new secret base on the remote
ice world of Hoth.
Is that correct? I though Princess Leia or General Rieekan commanded the Rebel base on Hoth.
I can't find any references to this discrepancy on the Internet. Maybe in an earlier version of the script, Luke Skywalker was the commander and the crawl wasn't updated. Or perhaps "led" is meant in the sense Luke was a moral leader of the Rebel fighters?
star-wars luke-skywalker the-empire-strikes-back
asked 8 hours ago
RobertFRobertF
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I would think your latter suggestion is right as he only has the rank of 'commander' at the start of Empire.
– Kozaky
8 hours ago
3
Or perhaps literally - his was the ship at the front of the convoy?
– Chronocidal
8 hours ago
1
Rieekan is in charge, and he's got the Purina patch to prove it. youtu.be/1CTpTyT8y2w?t=13
– Vanguard3000
7 hours ago
3
I've been disturbed about this for years, and eventually rationalized that it was moral leadership that was being referred to here, and that there was a separate, formal organizational leadership.
– Robert Columbia
5 hours ago
1
@RobertColumbia Yes. Reasoning it out, writing "a group of freedom fighters led by General Rieekan" in the opening crawl would leave the audience wondering Who is General Rieekan? And Princess Leia was more of a civilian leader (being a former Senator), not a military commander. Much of ESB is Luke's story - I guess they stuck him in the crawl since he's the hero from Star Wars & takes center stage over Leia.
– RobertF
5 hours ago
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Rewatching Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back, I noticed the opening crawl declares Luke Skywalker as the leader of the Rebel forces on Hoth:
Evading the dreaded Imperial Starfleet, a group of freedom fighters
led by Luke Skywalker has established a new secret base on the remote
ice world of Hoth.
Is that correct? I though Princess Leia or General Rieekan commanded the Rebel base on Hoth.
I can't find any references to this discrepancy on the Internet. Maybe in an earlier version of the script, Luke Skywalker was the commander and the crawl wasn't updated. Or perhaps "led" is meant in the sense Luke was a moral leader of the Rebel fighters?
star-wars luke-skywalker the-empire-strikes-back
asked 8 hours ago
RobertFRobertF
5,41053257
Rewatching Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back, I noticed the opening crawl declares Luke Skywalker as the leader of the Rebel forces on Hoth:
Evading the dreaded Imperial Starfleet, a group of freedom fighters
led by Luke Skywalker has established a new secret base on the remote
ice world of Hoth.
Is that correct? I though Princess Leia or General Rieekan commanded the Rebel base on Hoth.
I can't find any references to this discrepancy on the Internet. Maybe in an earlier version of the script, Luke Skywalker was the commander and the crawl wasn't updated. Or perhaps "led" is meant in the sense Luke was a moral leader of the Rebel fighters?
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I would think your latter suggestion is right as he only has the rank of 'commander' at the start of Empire.
– Kozaky
8 hours ago
3
Or perhaps literally - his was the ship at the front of the convoy?
– Chronocidal
8 hours ago
1
Rieekan is in charge, and he's got the Purina patch to prove it. youtu.be/1CTpTyT8y2w?t=13
– Vanguard3000
7 hours ago
3
I've been disturbed about this for years, and eventually rationalized that it was moral leadership that was being referred to here, and that there was a separate, formal organizational leadership.
– Robert Columbia
5 hours ago
1
@RobertColumbia Yes. Reasoning it out, writing "a group of freedom fighters led by General Rieekan" in the opening crawl would leave the audience wondering Who is General Rieekan? And Princess Leia was more of a civilian leader (being a former Senator), not a military commander. Much of ESB is Luke's story - I guess they stuck him in the crawl since he's the hero from Star Wars & takes center stage over Leia.
– RobertF
5 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
2
I would think your latter suggestion is right as he only has the rank of 'commander' at the start of Empire.
– Kozaky
8 hours ago
3
Or perhaps literally - his was the ship at the front of the convoy?
– Chronocidal
8 hours ago
1
Rieekan is in charge, and he's got the Purina patch to prove it. youtu.be/1CTpTyT8y2w?t=13
– Vanguard3000
7 hours ago
3
I've been disturbed about this for years, and eventually rationalized that it was moral leadership that was being referred to here, and that there was a separate, formal organizational leadership.
– Robert Columbia
5 hours ago
1
@RobertColumbia Yes. Reasoning it out, writing "a group of freedom fighters led by General Rieekan" in the opening crawl would leave the audience wondering Who is General Rieekan? And Princess Leia was more of a civilian leader (being a former Senator), not a military commander. Much of ESB is Luke's story - I guess they stuck him in the crawl since he's the hero from Star Wars & takes center stage over Leia.
– RobertF
5 hours ago
2
2
I would think your latter suggestion is right as he only has the rank of 'commander' at the start of Empire.
– Kozaky
8 hours ago
I would think your latter suggestion is right as he only has the rank of 'commander' at the start of Empire.
– Kozaky
8 hours ago
3
3
Or perhaps literally - his was the ship at the front of the convoy?
– Chronocidal
8 hours ago
Or perhaps literally - his was the ship at the front of the convoy?
– Chronocidal
8 hours ago
1
1
Rieekan is in charge, and he's got the Purina patch to prove it. youtu.be/1CTpTyT8y2w?t=13
– Vanguard3000
7 hours ago
Rieekan is in charge, and he's got the Purina patch to prove it. youtu.be/1CTpTyT8y2w?t=13
– Vanguard3000
7 hours ago
3
3
I've been disturbed about this for years, and eventually rationalized that it was moral leadership that was being referred to here, and that there was a separate, formal organizational leadership.
– Robert Columbia
5 hours ago
I've been disturbed about this for years, and eventually rationalized that it was moral leadership that was being referred to here, and that there was a separate, formal organizational leadership.
– Robert Columbia
5 hours ago
1
1
@RobertColumbia Yes. Reasoning it out, writing "a group of freedom fighters led by General Rieekan" in the opening crawl would leave the audience wondering Who is General Rieekan? And Princess Leia was more of a civilian leader (being a former Senator), not a military commander. Much of ESB is Luke's story - I guess they stuck him in the crawl since he's the hero from Star Wars & takes center stage over Leia.
– RobertF
5 hours ago
@RobertColumbia Yes. Reasoning it out, writing "a group of freedom fighters led by General Rieekan" in the opening crawl would leave the audience wondering Who is General Rieekan? And Princess Leia was more of a civilian leader (being a former Senator), not a military commander. Much of ESB is Luke's story - I guess they stuck him in the crawl since he's the hero from Star Wars & takes center stage over Leia.
– RobertF
5 hours ago
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Luke wasn't the leader of the all of the base's forces, he held the rank of Commander and led Rogue Squadron, a small aerial defence force stationed at the base and one of several squadrons at the disposal of the Rebellion's leadership.
While the Rebellion's structure is relatively vague (and fluid), we do know that Echo Base was commanded by General Rieekan.
Her name is Leia, and she is the princess of that planet the Empire destroyed with a single shot. She was on the Imperial battle station, being forced to watch. Now, she is among the leaders of the Rebellion. You can understand why.
Her brown eyes flash at the various panels and readouts. Her long brown hair is braided and wrapped in a ring around her head.
At first, Han studiously ignores her. He goes over to General Rieekan, commander of the base, who is poring over the security readouts. Like security readouts are going to help when the Empire shows up.
The Empire Strikes Back: So You Want to Be a Jedi?
Leia, Mon Mothma and various others lead the Rebellion and Admiral Akbar commands their fleet of starships. Luke is one of the leaders of the Rebellion, in the sense that he holds a relatively high rank.
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Luke is a commander by ESB, and is in command of a squadron. More specifically, his call sign is Rogue Leader as he is part of the Rogue Squadron which he named after the the Rebel group that got the plans for the Death Star.
answered 8 hours ago
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Do squadron commanders typically also command ground based installations? I wouldn't expect to find a modern Air Force leader giving orders at an Army base.
– Brian R
7 hours ago
4
@BrianR But, you might expect it at an Air Force base, which is usually on the ground
– Chronocidal
7 hours ago
@BrianR Right, that's what I'm thinking. I understand Luke is commander of Rogue Squadron, but we never see him in command of the entire base in ESB.
– RobertF
7 hours ago
2
@BrianR The scrawl does mention it's "a group" which pretty much would describe just one squadron. It's possible he led a research mission to Hoth and later reported to Leia who then proceeded to move resources there.
– Scott.Bell
6 hours ago
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Luke wasn't the leader of the all of the base's forces, he held the rank of Commander and led Rogue Squadron, a small aerial defence force stationed at the base and one of several squadrons at the disposal of the Rebellion's leadership.
While the Rebellion's structure is relatively vague (and fluid), we do know that Echo Base was commanded by General Rieekan.
Her name is Leia, and she is the princess of that planet the Empire destroyed with a single shot. She was on the Imperial battle station, being forced to watch. Now, she is among the leaders of the Rebellion. You can understand why.
Her brown eyes flash at the various panels and readouts. Her long brown hair is braided and wrapped in a ring around her head.
At first, Han studiously ignores her. He goes over to General Rieekan, commander of the base, who is poring over the security readouts. Like security readouts are going to help when the Empire shows up.
The Empire Strikes Back: So You Want to Be a Jedi?
Leia, Mon Mothma and various others lead the Rebellion and Admiral Akbar commands their fleet of starships. Luke is one of the leaders of the Rebellion, in the sense that he holds a relatively high rank.
answered 5 hours ago
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Luke wasn't the leader of the all of the base's forces, he held the rank of Commander and led Rogue Squadron, a small aerial defence force stationed at the base and one of several squadrons at the disposal of the Rebellion's leadership.
While the Rebellion's structure is relatively vague (and fluid), we do know that Echo Base was commanded by General Rieekan.
Her name is Leia, and she is the princess of that planet the Empire destroyed with a single shot. She was on the Imperial battle station, being forced to watch. Now, she is among the leaders of the Rebellion. You can understand why.
Her brown eyes flash at the various panels and readouts. Her long brown hair is braided and wrapped in a ring around her head.
At first, Han studiously ignores her. He goes over to General Rieekan, commander of the base, who is poring over the security readouts. Like security readouts are going to help when the Empire shows up.
The Empire Strikes Back: So You Want to Be a Jedi?
Leia, Mon Mothma and various others lead the Rebellion and Admiral Akbar commands their fleet of starships. Luke is one of the leaders of the Rebellion, in the sense that he holds a relatively high rank.
answered 5 hours ago
ValorumValorum
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Luke wasn't the leader of the all of the base's forces, he held the rank of Commander and led Rogue Squadron, a small aerial defence force stationed at the base and one of several squadrons at the disposal of the Rebellion's leadership.
While the Rebellion's structure is relatively vague (and fluid), we do know that Echo Base was commanded by General Rieekan.
Her name is Leia, and she is the princess of that planet the Empire destroyed with a single shot. She was on the Imperial battle station, being forced to watch. Now, she is among the leaders of the Rebellion. You can understand why.
Her brown eyes flash at the various panels and readouts. Her long brown hair is braided and wrapped in a ring around her head.
At first, Han studiously ignores her. He goes over to General Rieekan, commander of the base, who is poring over the security readouts. Like security readouts are going to help when the Empire shows up.
The Empire Strikes Back: So You Want to Be a Jedi?
Leia, Mon Mothma and various others lead the Rebellion and Admiral Akbar commands their fleet of starships. Luke is one of the leaders of the Rebellion, in the sense that he holds a relatively high rank.
answered 5 hours ago
ValorumValorum
408k11029693192
Luke wasn't the leader of the all of the base's forces, he held the rank of Commander and led Rogue Squadron, a small aerial defence force stationed at the base and one of several squadrons at the disposal of the Rebellion's leadership.
While the Rebellion's structure is relatively vague (and fluid), we do know that Echo Base was commanded by General Rieekan.
Her name is Leia, and she is the princess of that planet the Empire destroyed with a single shot. She was on the Imperial battle station, being forced to watch. Now, she is among the leaders of the Rebellion. You can understand why.
Her brown eyes flash at the various panels and readouts. Her long brown hair is braided and wrapped in a ring around her head.
At first, Han studiously ignores her. He goes over to General Rieekan, commander of the base, who is poring over the security readouts. Like security readouts are going to help when the Empire shows up.
The Empire Strikes Back: So You Want to Be a Jedi?
Leia, Mon Mothma and various others lead the Rebellion and Admiral Akbar commands their fleet of starships. Luke is one of the leaders of the Rebellion, in the sense that he holds a relatively high rank.
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Luke is a commander by ESB, and is in command of a squadron. More specifically, his call sign is Rogue Leader as he is part of the Rogue Squadron which he named after the the Rebel group that got the plans for the Death Star.
answered 8 hours ago
Scott.BellScott.Bell
4087
Do squadron commanders typically also command ground based installations? I wouldn't expect to find a modern Air Force leader giving orders at an Army base.
– Brian R
7 hours ago
4
@BrianR But, you might expect it at an Air Force base, which is usually on the ground
– Chronocidal
7 hours ago
@BrianR Right, that's what I'm thinking. I understand Luke is commander of Rogue Squadron, but we never see him in command of the entire base in ESB.
– RobertF
7 hours ago
2
@BrianR The scrawl does mention it's "a group" which pretty much would describe just one squadron. It's possible he led a research mission to Hoth and later reported to Leia who then proceeded to move resources there.
– Scott.Bell
6 hours ago
add a comment |
Luke is a commander by ESB, and is in command of a squadron. More specifically, his call sign is Rogue Leader as he is part of the Rogue Squadron which he named after the the Rebel group that got the plans for the Death Star.
answered 8 hours ago
Scott.BellScott.Bell
4087
Do squadron commanders typically also command ground based installations? I wouldn't expect to find a modern Air Force leader giving orders at an Army base.
– Brian R
7 hours ago
4
@BrianR But, you might expect it at an Air Force base, which is usually on the ground
– Chronocidal
7 hours ago
@BrianR Right, that's what I'm thinking. I understand Luke is commander of Rogue Squadron, but we never see him in command of the entire base in ESB.
– RobertF
7 hours ago
2
@BrianR The scrawl does mention it's "a group" which pretty much would describe just one squadron. It's possible he led a research mission to Hoth and later reported to Leia who then proceeded to move resources there.
– Scott.Bell
6 hours ago
add a comment |
Luke is a commander by ESB, and is in command of a squadron. More specifically, his call sign is Rogue Leader as he is part of the Rogue Squadron which he named after the the Rebel group that got the plans for the Death Star.
answered 8 hours ago
Scott.BellScott.Bell
4087
Luke is a commander by ESB, and is in command of a squadron. More specifically, his call sign is Rogue Leader as he is part of the Rogue Squadron which he named after the the Rebel group that got the plans for the Death Star.
answered 8 hours ago
Scott.BellScott.Bell
4087
answered 8 hours ago
Scott.BellScott.Bell
4087
answered 8 hours ago
Scott.BellScott.Bell
4087
answered 8 hours ago
Scott.BellScott.Bell
4087
4087
Do squadron commanders typically also command ground based installations? I wouldn't expect to find a modern Air Force leader giving orders at an Army base.
– Brian R
7 hours ago
4
@BrianR But, you might expect it at an Air Force base, which is usually on the ground
– Chronocidal
7 hours ago
@BrianR Right, that's what I'm thinking. I understand Luke is commander of Rogue Squadron, but we never see him in command of the entire base in ESB.
– RobertF
7 hours ago
2
@BrianR The scrawl does mention it's "a group" which pretty much would describe just one squadron. It's possible he led a research mission to Hoth and later reported to Leia who then proceeded to move resources there.
– Scott.Bell
6 hours ago
add a comment |
Do squadron commanders typically also command ground based installations? I wouldn't expect to find a modern Air Force leader giving orders at an Army base.
– Brian R
7 hours ago
4
@BrianR But, you might expect it at an Air Force base, which is usually on the ground
– Chronocidal
7 hours ago
@BrianR Right, that's what I'm thinking. I understand Luke is commander of Rogue Squadron, but we never see him in command of the entire base in ESB.
– RobertF
7 hours ago
2
@BrianR The scrawl does mention it's "a group" which pretty much would describe just one squadron. It's possible he led a research mission to Hoth and later reported to Leia who then proceeded to move resources there.
– Scott.Bell
6 hours ago
Do squadron commanders typically also command ground based installations? I wouldn't expect to find a modern Air Force leader giving orders at an Army base.
– Brian R
7 hours ago
Do squadron commanders typically also command ground based installations? I wouldn't expect to find a modern Air Force leader giving orders at an Army base.
– Brian R
7 hours ago
4
4
@BrianR But, you might expect it at an Air Force base, which is usually on the ground
– Chronocidal
7 hours ago
@BrianR But, you might expect it at an Air Force base, which is usually on the ground
– Chronocidal
7 hours ago
@BrianR Right, that's what I'm thinking. I understand Luke is commander of Rogue Squadron, but we never see him in command of the entire base in ESB.
– RobertF
7 hours ago
@BrianR Right, that's what I'm thinking. I understand Luke is commander of Rogue Squadron, but we never see him in command of the entire base in ESB.
– RobertF
7 hours ago
2
2
@BrianR The scrawl does mention it's "a group" which pretty much would describe just one squadron. It's possible he led a research mission to Hoth and later reported to Leia who then proceeded to move resources there.
– Scott.Bell
6 hours ago
@BrianR The scrawl does mention it's "a group" which pretty much would describe just one squadron. It's possible he led a research mission to Hoth and later reported to Leia who then proceeded to move resources there.
– Scott.Bell
6 hours ago
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I would think your latter suggestion is right as he only has the rank of 'commander' at the start of Empire.
– Kozaky
8 hours ago
3
Or perhaps literally - his was the ship at the front of the convoy?
– Chronocidal
8 hours ago
1
Rieekan is in charge, and he's got the Purina patch to prove it. youtu.be/1CTpTyT8y2w?t=13
– Vanguard3000
7 hours ago
3
I've been disturbed about this for years, and eventually rationalized that it was moral leadership that was being referred to here, and that there was a separate, formal organizational leadership.
– Robert Columbia
5 hours ago
1
@RobertColumbia Yes. Reasoning it out, writing "a group of freedom fighters led by General Rieekan" in the opening crawl would leave the audience wondering Who is General Rieekan? And Princess Leia was more of a civilian leader (being a former Senator), not a military commander. Much of ESB is Luke's story - I guess they stuck him in the crawl since he's the hero from Star Wars & takes center stage over Leia.
– RobertF
5 hours ago