Finding a sequence of sets whose limit is a given set [closed]
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Suppose $B$ is a ball in $mathbb{R}^{n}$ with $n>1$, and $F$ a closed set with empty interior. Is there an increasing sequence of sets $E_{1}subset,...E_{n}subset E_{n+1},...$, all Borel sets, such that each $E_{n}subset Bsetminus F$ but $cup_{n}E_{n}=B$?
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Suppose $B$ is a ball in $mathbb{R}^{n}$ with $n>1$, and $F$ a closed set with empty interior. Is there an increasing sequence of sets $E_{1}subset,...E_{n}subset E_{n+1},...$, all Borel sets, such that each $E_{n}subset Bsetminus F$ but $cup_{n}E_{n}=B$?
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Not if $Bcap F$ is nonempty. Is this actually the question you wished to ask?
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Nov 19 at 5:32
$F$ is a part of $B$ and so their intersection is not empty.
– M. Rahmat
Nov 19 at 6:16
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Suppose $B$ is a ball in $mathbb{R}^{n}$ with $n>1$, and $F$ a closed set with empty interior. Is there an increasing sequence of sets $E_{1}subset,...E_{n}subset E_{n+1},...$, all Borel sets, such that each $E_{n}subset Bsetminus F$ but $cup_{n}E_{n}=B$?
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Suppose $B$ is a ball in $mathbb{R}^{n}$ with $n>1$, and $F$ a closed set with empty interior. Is there an increasing sequence of sets $E_{1}subset,...E_{n}subset E_{n+1},...$, all Borel sets, such that each $E_{n}subset Bsetminus F$ but $cup_{n}E_{n}=B$?
real-analysis measure-theory elementary-set-theory
real-analysis measure-theory elementary-set-theory
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Not if $Bcap F$ is nonempty. Is this actually the question you wished to ask?
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Nov 19 at 5:32
$F$ is a part of $B$ and so their intersection is not empty.
– M. Rahmat
Nov 19 at 6:16
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Not if $Bcap F$ is nonempty. Is this actually the question you wished to ask?
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Nov 19 at 5:32
$F$ is a part of $B$ and so their intersection is not empty.
– M. Rahmat
Nov 19 at 6:16
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Not if $Bcap F$ is nonempty. Is this actually the question you wished to ask?
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Nov 19 at 5:32
Not if $Bcap F$ is nonempty. Is this actually the question you wished to ask?
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Nov 19 at 5:32
$F$ is a part of $B$ and so their intersection is not empty.
– M. Rahmat
Nov 19 at 6:16
$F$ is a part of $B$ and so their intersection is not empty.
– M. Rahmat
Nov 19 at 6:16
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No.
In general if $A_alpha$ are subsets of a set $D$, then $bigcup_{alpha} A_alpha$ is also a subset of $D$, since any element of the union is an element of some $A_alpha$ and hence an element of $D$.
Thus as Lord Shark the Unknown points out in the comments, if $Bcap F$ is nonempty then $Bsetminus F$ is a proper subset of $B$, so since each $E_n$ is a subset of $Bsetminus F$, we have that $bigcup_n E_n subseteq Bsetminus F subsetneq B$.
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No.
In general if $A_alpha$ are subsets of a set $D$, then $bigcup_{alpha} A_alpha$ is also a subset of $D$, since any element of the union is an element of some $A_alpha$ and hence an element of $D$.
Thus as Lord Shark the Unknown points out in the comments, if $Bcap F$ is nonempty then $Bsetminus F$ is a proper subset of $B$, so since each $E_n$ is a subset of $Bsetminus F$, we have that $bigcup_n E_n subseteq Bsetminus F subsetneq B$.
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No.
In general if $A_alpha$ are subsets of a set $D$, then $bigcup_{alpha} A_alpha$ is also a subset of $D$, since any element of the union is an element of some $A_alpha$ and hence an element of $D$.
Thus as Lord Shark the Unknown points out in the comments, if $Bcap F$ is nonempty then $Bsetminus F$ is a proper subset of $B$, so since each $E_n$ is a subset of $Bsetminus F$, we have that $bigcup_n E_n subseteq Bsetminus F subsetneq B$.
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No.
In general if $A_alpha$ are subsets of a set $D$, then $bigcup_{alpha} A_alpha$ is also a subset of $D$, since any element of the union is an element of some $A_alpha$ and hence an element of $D$.
Thus as Lord Shark the Unknown points out in the comments, if $Bcap F$ is nonempty then $Bsetminus F$ is a proper subset of $B$, so since each $E_n$ is a subset of $Bsetminus F$, we have that $bigcup_n E_n subseteq Bsetminus F subsetneq B$.
No.
In general if $A_alpha$ are subsets of a set $D$, then $bigcup_{alpha} A_alpha$ is also a subset of $D$, since any element of the union is an element of some $A_alpha$ and hence an element of $D$.
Thus as Lord Shark the Unknown points out in the comments, if $Bcap F$ is nonempty then $Bsetminus F$ is a proper subset of $B$, so since each $E_n$ is a subset of $Bsetminus F$, we have that $bigcup_n E_n subseteq Bsetminus F subsetneq B$.
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Not if $Bcap F$ is nonempty. Is this actually the question you wished to ask?
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Nov 19 at 5:32
$F$ is a part of $B$ and so their intersection is not empty.
– M. Rahmat
Nov 19 at 6:16