Issue with @ifl@ter and expl3 date style











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I use MiKTeX on windows and am currently having trouble loading expl3. I recently updated the LaTeX3 packages. The following code is sufficient to generate the error:



documentclass{article}
usepackage{expl3}
begin{document}
test
end{document}


To which latex replies:



! Missing = inserted for ifnum.
<to be read again>
-
l.3 begin
{document}


I uninstalled and reinstalled both l3kernel and l3packages. MiKTeX Package Manager reports that l3kernel is "Packaged on" 2018-11-22 and "Installed on" 2018-12-05 and that l3packages is "Packaged on" 2018-10-18 and "Installed on" 2018-12-05. Maybe the issue has to do with the different dates they are "Packaged on"? I haven't looked at the diff between the two versions.



Anyways, throwing a tracingall in before usepackage{expl3} I get:



.... 40 megabyes of text
@ifl@t@r #1#2->ifnum expandafter @parse@version #1//00@nil <expandafter
@parse@version #2//00@nil expandafter @secondoftwo else expandafter @firs
toftwo fi
#1<-ver@expl3.sty
#2<-
{ifnum: (level 1) entered on line 9}
{expandafter}

ver@expl3.sty ->2018-11-19 L3 programming layer (loader)

@parse@version #1/#2/#3#4#5@nil ->#1#2#3#4
#1<-2018-11-19 L3 programming layer (loader)
#2<-
#3<-0
#4<-0
#5<-
! Missing = inserted for ifnum.
<to be read again>
-


So the issue is that the innermost macro of @ifpackagelater called @ifl@ter is expecting expl3 to report its date as e.g., 2018/11/19 but it's reported as 2018-11-19 with dashes instead of slashes. For now, I can get code to run by saying:



documentclass{article}
makeatletter
letsave@ifl@ter@ifl@ter
def@ifl@ter#1#2#3#4#5{} % Temporarily dummy out @ifl@ter
usepackage{expl3} % load package
let@ifl@tersave@ifl@ter % Restore @ifl@ter
% This would break with the same error as before:
%@ifpackagelater{expl3}{10/10/2018}{message{yes}}{message{no}}
makeatother

begin{document}
test
end{document}









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    Tha LaTeX kernel got updated and replaced the date format from dd/mm/yyyy to dd-mm-yyyy. You probably should update the LaTeX kernel as well.
    – Phelype Oleinik
    Dec 6 at 18:41










  • How do I do that? Does mpm have an entry for the latex kernel? Searching for "kernel" the only package that turns up is l3kernel.
    – Hood Chatham
    Dec 6 at 18:44








  • 2




    @HoodChatham It will be listed just as latex
    – Joseph Wright
    Dec 6 at 18:47






  • 3




    run the update manager as user and as admin.
    – Ulrike Fischer
    Dec 6 at 18:47






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    Probably related: tex.stackexchange.com/q/422176/35864
    – moewe
    Dec 6 at 20:32















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I use MiKTeX on windows and am currently having trouble loading expl3. I recently updated the LaTeX3 packages. The following code is sufficient to generate the error:



documentclass{article}
usepackage{expl3}
begin{document}
test
end{document}


To which latex replies:



! Missing = inserted for ifnum.
<to be read again>
-
l.3 begin
{document}


I uninstalled and reinstalled both l3kernel and l3packages. MiKTeX Package Manager reports that l3kernel is "Packaged on" 2018-11-22 and "Installed on" 2018-12-05 and that l3packages is "Packaged on" 2018-10-18 and "Installed on" 2018-12-05. Maybe the issue has to do with the different dates they are "Packaged on"? I haven't looked at the diff between the two versions.



Anyways, throwing a tracingall in before usepackage{expl3} I get:



.... 40 megabyes of text
@ifl@t@r #1#2->ifnum expandafter @parse@version #1//00@nil <expandafter
@parse@version #2//00@nil expandafter @secondoftwo else expandafter @firs
toftwo fi
#1<-ver@expl3.sty
#2<-
{ifnum: (level 1) entered on line 9}
{expandafter}

ver@expl3.sty ->2018-11-19 L3 programming layer (loader)

@parse@version #1/#2/#3#4#5@nil ->#1#2#3#4
#1<-2018-11-19 L3 programming layer (loader)
#2<-
#3<-0
#4<-0
#5<-
! Missing = inserted for ifnum.
<to be read again>
-


So the issue is that the innermost macro of @ifpackagelater called @ifl@ter is expecting expl3 to report its date as e.g., 2018/11/19 but it's reported as 2018-11-19 with dashes instead of slashes. For now, I can get code to run by saying:



documentclass{article}
makeatletter
letsave@ifl@ter@ifl@ter
def@ifl@ter#1#2#3#4#5{} % Temporarily dummy out @ifl@ter
usepackage{expl3} % load package
let@ifl@tersave@ifl@ter % Restore @ifl@ter
% This would break with the same error as before:
%@ifpackagelater{expl3}{10/10/2018}{message{yes}}{message{no}}
makeatother

begin{document}
test
end{document}









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  • 1




    Tha LaTeX kernel got updated and replaced the date format from dd/mm/yyyy to dd-mm-yyyy. You probably should update the LaTeX kernel as well.
    – Phelype Oleinik
    Dec 6 at 18:41










  • How do I do that? Does mpm have an entry for the latex kernel? Searching for "kernel" the only package that turns up is l3kernel.
    – Hood Chatham
    Dec 6 at 18:44








  • 2




    @HoodChatham It will be listed just as latex
    – Joseph Wright
    Dec 6 at 18:47






  • 3




    run the update manager as user and as admin.
    – Ulrike Fischer
    Dec 6 at 18:47






  • 1




    Probably related: tex.stackexchange.com/q/422176/35864
    – moewe
    Dec 6 at 20:32













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up vote
3
down vote

favorite











I use MiKTeX on windows and am currently having trouble loading expl3. I recently updated the LaTeX3 packages. The following code is sufficient to generate the error:



documentclass{article}
usepackage{expl3}
begin{document}
test
end{document}


To which latex replies:



! Missing = inserted for ifnum.
<to be read again>
-
l.3 begin
{document}


I uninstalled and reinstalled both l3kernel and l3packages. MiKTeX Package Manager reports that l3kernel is "Packaged on" 2018-11-22 and "Installed on" 2018-12-05 and that l3packages is "Packaged on" 2018-10-18 and "Installed on" 2018-12-05. Maybe the issue has to do with the different dates they are "Packaged on"? I haven't looked at the diff between the two versions.



Anyways, throwing a tracingall in before usepackage{expl3} I get:



.... 40 megabyes of text
@ifl@t@r #1#2->ifnum expandafter @parse@version #1//00@nil <expandafter
@parse@version #2//00@nil expandafter @secondoftwo else expandafter @firs
toftwo fi
#1<-ver@expl3.sty
#2<-
{ifnum: (level 1) entered on line 9}
{expandafter}

ver@expl3.sty ->2018-11-19 L3 programming layer (loader)

@parse@version #1/#2/#3#4#5@nil ->#1#2#3#4
#1<-2018-11-19 L3 programming layer (loader)
#2<-
#3<-0
#4<-0
#5<-
! Missing = inserted for ifnum.
<to be read again>
-


So the issue is that the innermost macro of @ifpackagelater called @ifl@ter is expecting expl3 to report its date as e.g., 2018/11/19 but it's reported as 2018-11-19 with dashes instead of slashes. For now, I can get code to run by saying:



documentclass{article}
makeatletter
letsave@ifl@ter@ifl@ter
def@ifl@ter#1#2#3#4#5{} % Temporarily dummy out @ifl@ter
usepackage{expl3} % load package
let@ifl@tersave@ifl@ter % Restore @ifl@ter
% This would break with the same error as before:
%@ifpackagelater{expl3}{10/10/2018}{message{yes}}{message{no}}
makeatother

begin{document}
test
end{document}









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I use MiKTeX on windows and am currently having trouble loading expl3. I recently updated the LaTeX3 packages. The following code is sufficient to generate the error:



documentclass{article}
usepackage{expl3}
begin{document}
test
end{document}


To which latex replies:



! Missing = inserted for ifnum.
<to be read again>
-
l.3 begin
{document}


I uninstalled and reinstalled both l3kernel and l3packages. MiKTeX Package Manager reports that l3kernel is "Packaged on" 2018-11-22 and "Installed on" 2018-12-05 and that l3packages is "Packaged on" 2018-10-18 and "Installed on" 2018-12-05. Maybe the issue has to do with the different dates they are "Packaged on"? I haven't looked at the diff between the two versions.



Anyways, throwing a tracingall in before usepackage{expl3} I get:



.... 40 megabyes of text
@ifl@t@r #1#2->ifnum expandafter @parse@version #1//00@nil <expandafter
@parse@version #2//00@nil expandafter @secondoftwo else expandafter @firs
toftwo fi
#1<-ver@expl3.sty
#2<-
{ifnum: (level 1) entered on line 9}
{expandafter}

ver@expl3.sty ->2018-11-19 L3 programming layer (loader)

@parse@version #1/#2/#3#4#5@nil ->#1#2#3#4
#1<-2018-11-19 L3 programming layer (loader)
#2<-
#3<-0
#4<-0
#5<-
! Missing = inserted for ifnum.
<to be read again>
-


So the issue is that the innermost macro of @ifpackagelater called @ifl@ter is expecting expl3 to report its date as e.g., 2018/11/19 but it's reported as 2018-11-19 with dashes instead of slashes. For now, I can get code to run by saying:



documentclass{article}
makeatletter
letsave@ifl@ter@ifl@ter
def@ifl@ter#1#2#3#4#5{} % Temporarily dummy out @ifl@ter
usepackage{expl3} % load package
let@ifl@tersave@ifl@ter % Restore @ifl@ter
% This would break with the same error as before:
%@ifpackagelater{expl3}{10/10/2018}{message{yes}}{message{no}}
makeatother

begin{document}
test
end{document}






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  • 1




    Tha LaTeX kernel got updated and replaced the date format from dd/mm/yyyy to dd-mm-yyyy. You probably should update the LaTeX kernel as well.
    – Phelype Oleinik
    Dec 6 at 18:41










  • How do I do that? Does mpm have an entry for the latex kernel? Searching for "kernel" the only package that turns up is l3kernel.
    – Hood Chatham
    Dec 6 at 18:44








  • 2




    @HoodChatham It will be listed just as latex
    – Joseph Wright
    Dec 6 at 18:47






  • 3




    run the update manager as user and as admin.
    – Ulrike Fischer
    Dec 6 at 18:47






  • 1




    Probably related: tex.stackexchange.com/q/422176/35864
    – moewe
    Dec 6 at 20:32














  • 1




    Tha LaTeX kernel got updated and replaced the date format from dd/mm/yyyy to dd-mm-yyyy. You probably should update the LaTeX kernel as well.
    – Phelype Oleinik
    Dec 6 at 18:41










  • How do I do that? Does mpm have an entry for the latex kernel? Searching for "kernel" the only package that turns up is l3kernel.
    – Hood Chatham
    Dec 6 at 18:44








  • 2




    @HoodChatham It will be listed just as latex
    – Joseph Wright
    Dec 6 at 18:47






  • 3




    run the update manager as user and as admin.
    – Ulrike Fischer
    Dec 6 at 18:47






  • 1




    Probably related: tex.stackexchange.com/q/422176/35864
    – moewe
    Dec 6 at 20:32








1




1




Tha LaTeX kernel got updated and replaced the date format from dd/mm/yyyy to dd-mm-yyyy. You probably should update the LaTeX kernel as well.
– Phelype Oleinik
Dec 6 at 18:41




Tha LaTeX kernel got updated and replaced the date format from dd/mm/yyyy to dd-mm-yyyy. You probably should update the LaTeX kernel as well.
– Phelype Oleinik
Dec 6 at 18:41












How do I do that? Does mpm have an entry for the latex kernel? Searching for "kernel" the only package that turns up is l3kernel.
– Hood Chatham
Dec 6 at 18:44






How do I do that? Does mpm have an entry for the latex kernel? Searching for "kernel" the only package that turns up is l3kernel.
– Hood Chatham
Dec 6 at 18:44






2




2




@HoodChatham It will be listed just as latex
– Joseph Wright
Dec 6 at 18:47




@HoodChatham It will be listed just as latex
– Joseph Wright
Dec 6 at 18:47




3




3




run the update manager as user and as admin.
– Ulrike Fischer
Dec 6 at 18:47




run the update manager as user and as admin.
– Ulrike Fischer
Dec 6 at 18:47




1




1




Probably related: tex.stackexchange.com/q/422176/35864
– moewe
Dec 6 at 20:32




Probably related: tex.stackexchange.com/q/422176/35864
– moewe
Dec 6 at 20:32










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The LaTeX kernel got updated in April, 2017 to use the ISO 8601 date format yyyy-mm-dd instead of a format Frank invented :)



You have to update your LaTeX kernel to a newer version so that the date format in expl3 works. It's always better to update all packages together, or these conflicts might happen.





If you can't update for whatever reason, you can use the newer date parser (code tested with an up-to-date (Dec 6th, 2018) expl3 with the LaTeX kernel of TeXLive 2015):



documentclass{article}

makeatletter
def@ifl@t@r#1#2{%
ifnumexpandafter@parse@version@#1//00@nil<%
expandafter@parse@version@#2//00@nil
expandafter@secondoftwo
else
expandafter@firstoftwo
fi}
def@parse@version@#1{@parse@version0#1}
def@parse@version#1/#2/#3#4#5@nil{%
@parse@version@dash#1-#2-#3#4@nil
}
def@parse@version@dash#1-#2-#3#4#5@nil{%
ifrelax#2relaxelse#1fi#2#3#4 }
makeatother

usepackage{expl3}

begin{document}

hello

end{document}





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  • begin{nitpick}You did mean yyyy-mm-dd, didn't you? end{nitpick}
    – Harald Hanche-Olsen
    Dec 6 at 19:26












  • @HaraldHanche-Olsen begin{thanks} Oops, you're right :) end{thanks}
    – Phelype Oleinik
    Dec 6 at 19:34










  • I think the YYYY-MM-DD format has been supported since 2017 (latex-project.org/news/latex2e-news/ltnews27.pdf). latexrelease may also help here.
    – moewe
    Dec 6 at 20:33










  • @moewe Indeed. I hadn't found this ltnews before. Thanks :)
    – Phelype Oleinik
    Dec 6 at 21:29






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    nice to see my inventions being commented on :-) but I made more important ones I hope
    – Frank Mittelbach
    yesterday











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The LaTeX kernel got updated in April, 2017 to use the ISO 8601 date format yyyy-mm-dd instead of a format Frank invented :)



You have to update your LaTeX kernel to a newer version so that the date format in expl3 works. It's always better to update all packages together, or these conflicts might happen.





If you can't update for whatever reason, you can use the newer date parser (code tested with an up-to-date (Dec 6th, 2018) expl3 with the LaTeX kernel of TeXLive 2015):



documentclass{article}

makeatletter
def@ifl@t@r#1#2{%
ifnumexpandafter@parse@version@#1//00@nil<%
expandafter@parse@version@#2//00@nil
expandafter@secondoftwo
else
expandafter@firstoftwo
fi}
def@parse@version@#1{@parse@version0#1}
def@parse@version#1/#2/#3#4#5@nil{%
@parse@version@dash#1-#2-#3#4@nil
}
def@parse@version@dash#1-#2-#3#4#5@nil{%
ifrelax#2relaxelse#1fi#2#3#4 }
makeatother

usepackage{expl3}

begin{document}

hello

end{document}





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  • begin{nitpick}You did mean yyyy-mm-dd, didn't you? end{nitpick}
    – Harald Hanche-Olsen
    Dec 6 at 19:26












  • @HaraldHanche-Olsen begin{thanks} Oops, you're right :) end{thanks}
    – Phelype Oleinik
    Dec 6 at 19:34










  • I think the YYYY-MM-DD format has been supported since 2017 (latex-project.org/news/latex2e-news/ltnews27.pdf). latexrelease may also help here.
    – moewe
    Dec 6 at 20:33










  • @moewe Indeed. I hadn't found this ltnews before. Thanks :)
    – Phelype Oleinik
    Dec 6 at 21:29






  • 1




    nice to see my inventions being commented on :-) but I made more important ones I hope
    – Frank Mittelbach
    yesterday















up vote
7
down vote













The LaTeX kernel got updated in April, 2017 to use the ISO 8601 date format yyyy-mm-dd instead of a format Frank invented :)



You have to update your LaTeX kernel to a newer version so that the date format in expl3 works. It's always better to update all packages together, or these conflicts might happen.





If you can't update for whatever reason, you can use the newer date parser (code tested with an up-to-date (Dec 6th, 2018) expl3 with the LaTeX kernel of TeXLive 2015):



documentclass{article}

makeatletter
def@ifl@t@r#1#2{%
ifnumexpandafter@parse@version@#1//00@nil<%
expandafter@parse@version@#2//00@nil
expandafter@secondoftwo
else
expandafter@firstoftwo
fi}
def@parse@version@#1{@parse@version0#1}
def@parse@version#1/#2/#3#4#5@nil{%
@parse@version@dash#1-#2-#3#4@nil
}
def@parse@version@dash#1-#2-#3#4#5@nil{%
ifrelax#2relaxelse#1fi#2#3#4 }
makeatother

usepackage{expl3}

begin{document}

hello

end{document}





share|improve this answer























  • begin{nitpick}You did mean yyyy-mm-dd, didn't you? end{nitpick}
    – Harald Hanche-Olsen
    Dec 6 at 19:26












  • @HaraldHanche-Olsen begin{thanks} Oops, you're right :) end{thanks}
    – Phelype Oleinik
    Dec 6 at 19:34










  • I think the YYYY-MM-DD format has been supported since 2017 (latex-project.org/news/latex2e-news/ltnews27.pdf). latexrelease may also help here.
    – moewe
    Dec 6 at 20:33










  • @moewe Indeed. I hadn't found this ltnews before. Thanks :)
    – Phelype Oleinik
    Dec 6 at 21:29






  • 1




    nice to see my inventions being commented on :-) but I made more important ones I hope
    – Frank Mittelbach
    yesterday













up vote
7
down vote










up vote
7
down vote









The LaTeX kernel got updated in April, 2017 to use the ISO 8601 date format yyyy-mm-dd instead of a format Frank invented :)



You have to update your LaTeX kernel to a newer version so that the date format in expl3 works. It's always better to update all packages together, or these conflicts might happen.





If you can't update for whatever reason, you can use the newer date parser (code tested with an up-to-date (Dec 6th, 2018) expl3 with the LaTeX kernel of TeXLive 2015):



documentclass{article}

makeatletter
def@ifl@t@r#1#2{%
ifnumexpandafter@parse@version@#1//00@nil<%
expandafter@parse@version@#2//00@nil
expandafter@secondoftwo
else
expandafter@firstoftwo
fi}
def@parse@version@#1{@parse@version0#1}
def@parse@version#1/#2/#3#4#5@nil{%
@parse@version@dash#1-#2-#3#4@nil
}
def@parse@version@dash#1-#2-#3#4#5@nil{%
ifrelax#2relaxelse#1fi#2#3#4 }
makeatother

usepackage{expl3}

begin{document}

hello

end{document}





share|improve this answer














The LaTeX kernel got updated in April, 2017 to use the ISO 8601 date format yyyy-mm-dd instead of a format Frank invented :)



You have to update your LaTeX kernel to a newer version so that the date format in expl3 works. It's always better to update all packages together, or these conflicts might happen.





If you can't update for whatever reason, you can use the newer date parser (code tested with an up-to-date (Dec 6th, 2018) expl3 with the LaTeX kernel of TeXLive 2015):



documentclass{article}

makeatletter
def@ifl@t@r#1#2{%
ifnumexpandafter@parse@version@#1//00@nil<%
expandafter@parse@version@#2//00@nil
expandafter@secondoftwo
else
expandafter@firstoftwo
fi}
def@parse@version@#1{@parse@version0#1}
def@parse@version#1/#2/#3#4#5@nil{%
@parse@version@dash#1-#2-#3#4@nil
}
def@parse@version@dash#1-#2-#3#4#5@nil{%
ifrelax#2relaxelse#1fi#2#3#4 }
makeatother

usepackage{expl3}

begin{document}

hello

end{document}






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answered Dec 6 at 18:55









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  • begin{nitpick}You did mean yyyy-mm-dd, didn't you? end{nitpick}
    – Harald Hanche-Olsen
    Dec 6 at 19:26












  • @HaraldHanche-Olsen begin{thanks} Oops, you're right :) end{thanks}
    – Phelype Oleinik
    Dec 6 at 19:34










  • I think the YYYY-MM-DD format has been supported since 2017 (latex-project.org/news/latex2e-news/ltnews27.pdf). latexrelease may also help here.
    – moewe
    Dec 6 at 20:33










  • @moewe Indeed. I hadn't found this ltnews before. Thanks :)
    – Phelype Oleinik
    Dec 6 at 21:29






  • 1




    nice to see my inventions being commented on :-) but I made more important ones I hope
    – Frank Mittelbach
    yesterday


















  • begin{nitpick}You did mean yyyy-mm-dd, didn't you? end{nitpick}
    – Harald Hanche-Olsen
    Dec 6 at 19:26












  • @HaraldHanche-Olsen begin{thanks} Oops, you're right :) end{thanks}
    – Phelype Oleinik
    Dec 6 at 19:34










  • I think the YYYY-MM-DD format has been supported since 2017 (latex-project.org/news/latex2e-news/ltnews27.pdf). latexrelease may also help here.
    – moewe
    Dec 6 at 20:33










  • @moewe Indeed. I hadn't found this ltnews before. Thanks :)
    – Phelype Oleinik
    Dec 6 at 21:29






  • 1




    nice to see my inventions being commented on :-) but I made more important ones I hope
    – Frank Mittelbach
    yesterday
















begin{nitpick}You did mean yyyy-mm-dd, didn't you? end{nitpick}
– Harald Hanche-Olsen
Dec 6 at 19:26






begin{nitpick}You did mean yyyy-mm-dd, didn't you? end{nitpick}
– Harald Hanche-Olsen
Dec 6 at 19:26














@HaraldHanche-Olsen begin{thanks} Oops, you're right :) end{thanks}
– Phelype Oleinik
Dec 6 at 19:34




@HaraldHanche-Olsen begin{thanks} Oops, you're right :) end{thanks}
– Phelype Oleinik
Dec 6 at 19:34












I think the YYYY-MM-DD format has been supported since 2017 (latex-project.org/news/latex2e-news/ltnews27.pdf). latexrelease may also help here.
– moewe
Dec 6 at 20:33




I think the YYYY-MM-DD format has been supported since 2017 (latex-project.org/news/latex2e-news/ltnews27.pdf). latexrelease may also help here.
– moewe
Dec 6 at 20:33












@moewe Indeed. I hadn't found this ltnews before. Thanks :)
– Phelype Oleinik
Dec 6 at 21:29




@moewe Indeed. I hadn't found this ltnews before. Thanks :)
– Phelype Oleinik
Dec 6 at 21:29




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nice to see my inventions being commented on :-) but I made more important ones I hope
– Frank Mittelbach
yesterday




nice to see my inventions being commented on :-) but I made more important ones I hope
– Frank Mittelbach
yesterday


















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